Jeremić in Montenegro, calls for unity

I love Vuk! He is the best thing that happened to Serbia. At the same time he is a nightmare for Albanians and the Americans. They wanted to prove that Serbia is still a rough state by provoking Serbs on a daily basis in Kosovo. However, they have failed thanks to Vuk! Keep up the good work. We are so proud of you!

Vuk is indeed the best thing that happened to Serbia - the biggest joke. A guy traveling the world with no real results and no clear goals.
(marko, 28 January 2010 12:06)
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His results are far better than anything Albanians have so far.
65 countries (most are specs on a map) is the result of America's pressure and nothing to do with anything Albanians have achieved, while the rest of the world is holding back.

Now if you count the numbers, Jeremic is a clear winner.

I cannot see how Albanians can call this failure. What their masters the Americans have done so far looks more like the failure they are chalking up to Jeremic.

Thank you Vuk for visiting Montenegro-thru out history montenegro had a few anti Srbians who after all had to flee and today is no different with djukanovic and co.
Serbia and Montenegro was always one and it will always be.

Jeremic is, unwittingly, the best ally of the Albanians. He is the walking, living and breathing example of isulance and arrogant nationalism. He's the best example supporting the Albanian argument that the new Serbian elite is just as inflexible as the old one. He's the chief diplomat who antagonises everyone, and that must be a first. And he does all this not because he cares about Kosovo, but because his eyes are firmly set on the Presidency. He is playing a long game for his own political ambitions, but one which sells short Serbia's interest. The Balkans has always been full of his elk, sacrificing vision and strategy for populism and short term gains.

Jeremić in Montenegro, calls for unity , Gee Whizz Jeremić why did the Montenegrins vote to separate them selfs from Serbia. Lucky for the Montenegrins that NATO was around their to read the Serbs the riot act and keep them on the strait and narrow track. It would of experienced the same thing as Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosovo. Serbs make the largest percentage wise of the minority population in Montenegro more then in Croatia ,Bosnia or Kosovo percentage wise. Do not full your selfs if NATO was not next door and didn't tell the Serbs that they would face their full wrath if they tried the same nonsense as before. When they were thinking of doing their brand of violence in Montenegro as was in Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosovo. Montenegro would of been even worse off then the three mentioned they just missed the bullet thanks to NATO I am sure that is why Montenegro is joining NATO.

"Montenegro would of been even worse off then the three mentioned they just missed the bullet thanks to NATO I am sure that is why Montenegro is joining NATO."
Lenard

Just keep on spreading your anti Serb propaganda. Are you still today blaming every Serbs for the Milosevic era? Perhaps we should return the favour by judging every Croat (if thats what you really are) after what they did to Serbs during WW2? Why didn't Serbia attack Macedonia if we are so bloodthirsty as you say? I would respect you if you had something productive to say, however, you are nothing more than a fanatic liar. When I read your comments I can understand why there was a war in the Balkans.

To all you Albanians out there. We are just waiting for the day when you will stab our Montenegrin brothers and sisters in the back. You are not their friends (and they are not yours and it is only because the US told them to pretend they are that they seem to tollerate you for the time being), in fact I do not think you have any true friends (the US is only your "friend" because Albanian Americans bought influential and corrupt US politicians who do not know who you really are). You are just using them to accomplish your goals and we all know that in the meantime you are eyeing Montenegro territory. When that day happens and they will come to use crying for help we will forgive their sins and we will fight alongside again to defeat our common enemy. So keep mocking others while you do not accomplish anything by yourself and one day when reality sets in you will know how inefficient you have been. In Yugoslavia you could not accomplish anything despite almost unlimited support from the other republics and you are still nothing more than beggers for other people's money. Good luck because you will need a lot of it.

Lenard, you seem a bit distressed of late. What's going on? Why are you so threatened by speeches of unity and peace? Even your new Croatian president is giving out good vibes. How much better will it be for the region and everyone to get along with each other? It looks like the end of all this division is nearing.

To just another Canadian Serb,

To say that USA started the Kosovo-Serbian conflict just so they can build a cardboard, radarless, Google-earth-available, military base is as ridiculous as saying the whole purpose of the nose is to hold the glasses. US has bases in Bulgaria (far larger than Bondsteel), Turkey, Greece, North Italy, Sicily, and South Albania among others in vicinity. Which strategically make Bondsteel insignificant. Italy has a larger and more sophisticated military base in west Kosovo than Bondsteel. It has military airport and radar site. Thus, your argument does not make sense.

Mirub,
Canada, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the EU have supported the USA and not Albanians.

This Serbia vs Kosovo Albanian war was created by the USA, so that a Camp Bondsteel could be created...

As a person of Montenegrin origins I call on Milo to publically step down in shame for his actions.

Bring the era of the 90's to an end.

He stopped short of saying "Montenegro is Serbia".
I assume he asked for permission to the Montenegrin government to go have a speech in Montenegro and implicitly criticize the actions the same Montenegrin government. It is a constant behavior from the Serb elite, they call for cooperation and freedom of movement and religion, and then "spit" (metaphorically speaking) on those who try to give them cooperation.

"Throughout history, Serbia and Montenegro have always been together and have never been, nor must they ever be, in conflict,” Jeremić said."

Serbia and Montenegro are not in conflict. You are in conflict with Kosovo, Montenegro is not. You are trying to drag Montenegro in your conflict. Or is that a veiled threat to Montenegro?

“The unity of the peoples of Serbia and Montenegro in religion, customs and spiritual heritage cannot be destroyed,” Jeremić said."

In fact the difference between your position and that of Montenegro is only political only when it comes to Kosovo, nothing in religion or customs or spiritual heritage, why do you put these here? Oh right, because you will talk about the patriarch Irinej in the next 5 minutes. You are assuming that he is the leader of the religion and customs and spiritual heritage and it is also very convenient for you that he speaks politics about Kosovo.
You can do these stunts only in Kosovo and Montenegro, because they are small and still weak, typical behavior of bullies.

yes jeremic go and speak to a country that has recognized kosovo (montenegro) and estabilished diplomatic relations with kosovo im sure dukanovic is stupid enough to belive you (joke)

Unity... but only when it serves the interests of the Serbs.

Montenegrins face two choices unite with the Serbs and lose their identity or stand on their own feet and celebrating who they are.

God bless MOC for Jeremic did not come as a good Christian.

Vuk is indeed the best thing that happened to Serbia - the biggest joke. A guy traveling the world with no real results and no clear goals.

Chavez would be envious of Serbia's FM.
As "Mospyt" pointed out, Jeremic is getting as extreme as it can. For clarification, he is an irritating figure but completely harmless to K. His logic is completely shattered by his frustration that no on is listening at him. He keeps shouting and hoping that by being louder will be perceived as stronger. That's because he is either an immature or suffers from learning disabilities. No wonder the most extreme serb element loves him because he plays their card of antagonizing and irritating everyone. Frankly he could not have come at a better times to be Serbia's FM, a living proof of Serb arrogance and segregation. He lacks the elementary diplomatic skills to be able to float in today's political streams. While ICJ is trying to reach a verdict he blasts with such fake optimism that "Pristina is nervous" and in the meantime repeats constantly that an unfavorable ICJ decision, Serbia will brush it off. While Montenegrins have already announced that they will never live in a Yugoslavia dominated by Serbs, he provokes their intelligence with unity statements.

When our Pm Berisha called for unity in Kosovo. This guy sent a protest note, to the ALB. embassy in belgrade and asked to the Russian Fm Lavrov to make a statement about this issue. Now he is doing the same in Montenegro a sovereign country, which Serbia seems that don't recognise as so.The little vuk visit to Montenegro without an official permission is a scandal, and a direct threat to Montenegro and to the regional peace and security.This is a crazy foreign policy of Serbia that is very dangerous for the region. Someone should talk and teach to this guy, that playing with fire is dangerous, becouse you can get burned. When was he when Belgrade was burning. Let your foreign policy to someone that has experienced and know that playing with fire is dangerous. What this guy think, that he's playing a ps game??

To Peggy:
Calling Canada, USA, Saudi Arabia, most of Europe "specs on the map" is an indication of your need to change your glasses prescription. The 65 countries recognizing Kosovo are 65 losses for Serbia and great victories for Kosovo. The remaining countries are still on the table.
As far as "US pressured countries", I wonder why the greatest US allies, Israel, Greece, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraqi Us puppet gov't, Mexico, and many more haven't recognized Kosovo despite their dependence on US financially and militarily.
Jeremic is indeed Serbia's Great messenger, however, his arrogance and self proclaimed demi-GODdness will hurt Serbia in the near future. Begging countries to restrain until ICJ decision is a great risky business. One can only imagine the consequences to Serbia if ICJ is pro or even neutral to UDI. Of course, Jeremic wouldn't be held responsible despite him dropping the ball so to speak. Thus, singing goddly praise to a mortal is catastrophic said ME.

NATO was around to read Serbia the riot act,and just who the hell are they to read the riot act to anyone?when they attacked the FRY they broke their own charter and international law,some of you people can't get that through your heads,or like NATO maybe you don't care about the rule of law.

Gee Vuk Jeremić sure travels a lot former Vice President Al Gore of U.S. can help him. Jeremić can buy carbon offsets scam from him and make our planet??? I do not know but Gore will rich he makes a billion dollars a year off that scam.

bganon,
In a philosophical way your are right.T

No one denies the existence of nationalistic sentiment among the nations, be they Serb, Albanian, French or German. The last two are a classical example of rivals who finally found peace with each other, but at what cost?
Countless of wars. After each and every one of them one party was the winner and the other was the loser. The loser paid the price. Napoleon lost the war and France paid the price, Hitler lost the war and Germany paid the price (with territorial losses as well).
The Albanians lost the war (for whatever reason) when Ottoman empire disintegrated and they paid the price for the entire century. Milosevic and Serbia are rightfully perceived as the ones who triggered the disintegration of Yugoslavia by robbing the controlling party over the federation and by changing the Yugoslav constitution unilaterally through scraping of autonomy of the two provinces.
It's well documented in video tape, for example, Kucan refusing to allow Slovenia as part of an Yugoslavia controlled solely by Serbia.
The others followed through to end with Monte Negro.
So those sentiments you bring about, although existent, are not a basis for spreading the blame. Furthermore, to draw a parallel between Rugova and Milosevic is dishonest and unethical. Rugova was a pacifist who fought for most of his political life to re-institute the autonomy within Yugoslavia. It is Rugova's pacifist movement and the brutality of Milosevic that gave birth to the KLA as the only alternative left.
Serbia lost the wars, and the rest is history. The price for losing K-war is what we have today. The question is: Is Serbia ready for peace?

I guess you really dislike the entire Serbian population, but this apart, in which century are your living in?

bgdanon you talk about nationalism, solutions etc etc. Take a look around. Everyone else but Serbia wanted out of Jugoslavia. Instead pointing fingers at others maybe, just maybe you should consider that Serbia was wrong when it assumed that Serbia alone had the responsibility to forcefully keep Jugoslavia from disintegrating. This attempt at trying to spread responsibility and remove as much responsibility from Serbia is simply a falsity. There were no Croatian tanks in Belgrade. There were no Bosnian tanks in Belgrade. There were no Slovenian tanks in Belgrade.There were no Albanian attacks in Belgrade. Everyone but the Serbs stayed within their territories while the Serbs went to Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, and Kosova and wreaked havoc and total destruction in these places. That is Serbia's fault; and totally Serbia's responsibility.

I simply adore the Serbian propaganda. It turns black into white and leaves you no time to understand what is going one. You almost feel guilty in questioning :)

The man is calling for government change and the Serbian press writes: Jeremic calls for unity...what?? ;))

His speech was a clear call for non-democratic change of the Govt in Montenegro:

we are one; we are brothers; we should not be divided;

it is the current Gov of MN that divides us- send them home and let us unite.

This is the essence of the message of Jeremic.

The Serbian disrespect towards the Montenegrin nation is simply disgusting.

Your hegemony towards your neighbours and particularly Montenegrins was your firs step in the 90s with Milosevic and still continues.

Nervous?

Mirub,
those other bases were not built after 78 days of bombing. Those other bases were built after a mutual agreement.

Ask yourself, why the USA basically acted alone, and was instrumental in strong arming the Eu nations in the 78 days of bombing Serbia.

The whole event was glorified and televised as a prime time tv event. It took 78 days of bombing hospitals, water towers, bridges and the Chinese embassy, and still the Serbian Military walks out of Kosovo fully intact.

The US even advertised this show by saying the Serbian military was a formidable foe.

Yes, clearly the USA requires another as you say, a cardboard and radarless facility, so that they can police the Albanian druglords and rapists.

The best part of this base is that, it has allowed crime to increase and ethnic cleanse what remaining Serbs lived there.

As a person of Montenegrin origins I call on Milo to publically step down in shame for his actions.

Bring the era of the 90's to an end.
(Matthew, 28 January 2010 18:52)

Isn't it the 90's the time when Serbia was forcing the other Yug-republic into such "unions" against their will?

Apparently MN government left the 90's a long time ago and is the little man who tries to turn the wheel backwards. No!

Milan, I totally agree with you (I miss read your message)! I thought you were talking about Serbs.

Montenegro recognizing Kosovo is the same thing if Albania recognized Kosovo as a part of Serbia. I don't think that will ever happen. Why the divide Montenegro? Ridiculous!

The citizens are just as much as fault as the "gov't". They voted them in and voted for independence. Shame! Its an easy way to wash your hands clean of the Balkan wars and say that you were not involved. Where was karadzic born?

Gojko,

I never read or watch CNN or any other US television stations like FOX. I like PBS, CBS' 60 Minutes, and ABC's 20/20, and some other well-balanced ones that bring critical and independent journalism.

Look at the Albanians here badmouthing Jeremic,
I know that you would like Serbs from MN and Serbia divided into as much as possible states so you could with grater ease pursue your greater Albanian ambitions but here is a message for you:
I am from Montenegro and I liked Jeremics speech, we are one and the same people,and the same blood will be reunited in one national state of Serbia where Montenegro would be a federal part of this state.
The only thing necessary for that to happen is to chase away the cigarette smugglers in the government and this will happen overtime.

Mirub Jager wrote:

"To Peggy:
Calling Canada, USA, Saudi Arabia, most of Europe "specs on the map" is an indication of your need to change your glasses prescription. The 65 countries recognizing Kosovo are 65 losses for Serbia and great victories for Kosovo. The remaining countries are still on the table."
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If you don't have a good counter argument then please stay away from putting words in my mouth.

I said most are specs not all are specs. I did not specify which one I saw as specs.
So by you trying to put words in my mouth and suggest that I called America, Canada and some European countries specs is a desperate attempt to discredit what I wrote. What it is, is a silly statement made by you when you don't have a good one.

Milan,

Looks like you read too much CNN!

miri actually the 90's in the Balkans is not just about one man. Its about the appearance of nationalism in the region and about the leaders that appeared at that time as a result of this. You must recognise that even without Milosevic, nationalism, as a destructive force, would have existed.

Were Milosevic and his decision makers alive and totally honest they would have said they only tapped into existing sentiment. That sentiment was shared by many republics / provinces - that their people were making the most sacrifices for Jugoslavija and that therefore that must be redressed.

When I say nationalism I'm not just talking about the emotive side - I mean the demand by ethnic groups within Jugoslavija for their own nation state.

The first leaders of nationalism in that case were Milosevic, Tudjman, Rugova, Izetbegovic, Djukanovic, Kucan and Gligorov.

In my opinion its not the following leaders that had any solutions, but the generation after that. Montenegro is at least 2 leaders away from that.

It is a huge pity for Montenigrin democracy and development that one man has dominated politics for a length of time previously seen in Soviet Russia or among despotic African countries.

To Johny:

The reason for Serbia's actions during the 1990s, imperfect as they were, is because, unlike other so-called ethnic groups in Yugoslavia, Serbs were spread out all over Croatia, Bosnia and other areas, and had been for several centuries.

Slovenian independence moves were resisted not solely by Serbs but by Yugoslav politicians and generals, many of them non-Serbs. And the reason was not entirely because they wished Slovenia and others to leave but that they should do so according to the 1974 constitution which allowed secession, though not as quickly and thoughtlessly as was dictated by an arrogant and resurgent Germany.

Had hundreds of thousands of Croats, Bosniaks or Albanians been resident in Serbia for as long as Serbs had been in their regions, then I can assure you that they would have had their tanks, or someone else’s tanks, in Belgrade.

RE: The Montenegrin Denial of Kosovo

The Denial and recognition of an illegal Kosovo is a denial of Montenegro and Serbia. Part of "Metohia" is in current day Montenegro. The denial of Kosovo is a denial of Serbian and Montenegro's history, the founding nations of Serbia were Raska and Gora. The denial of Montenegro's own existance is at state here, something the current leadership of Djukanovic does not care for. They are more concerned of lining their pockets with contraband cigarrettes. The same can be said of Thaci and his terrorist regime who give a damn about their own citizens. The one man who cared about the Albanian citizens was muzzled and threatened by execution by the KLA; that was Ibriham Rugova.

The Albanians lay sole claim to Illyria, so does Croatia, do does Hungary and in some cases so does Slovania. The Albanian claim to Illyria stands in equal footing to Albanians coming from Tatarstan or Azerbaijan for that matter; purely speculative and beyond reproof.

Jeremic is, unwittingly, the best ally of the Albanians. He is the walking, living and breathing example of isulance and arrogant nationalism. He's the best example supporting the Albanian argument that the new Serbian elite is just as inflexible as the old one. He's the chief diplomat who antagonises everyone, and that must be a first. And he does all this not because he cares about Kosovo, but because his eyes are firmly set on the Presidency. He is playing a long game for his own political ambitions, but one which sells short Serbia's interest. The Balkans has always been full of his elk, sacrificing vision and strategy for populism and short term gains.

Jeremić in Montenegro, calls for unity , Gee Whizz Jeremić why did the Montenegrins vote to separate them selfs from Serbia. Lucky for the Montenegrins that NATO was around their to read the Serbs the riot act and keep them on the strait and narrow track. It would of experienced the same thing as Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosovo. Serbs make the largest percentage wise of the minority population in Montenegro more then in Croatia ,Bosnia or Kosovo percentage wise. Do not full your selfs if NATO was not next door and didn't tell the Serbs that they would face their full wrath if they tried the same nonsense as before. When they were thinking of doing their brand of violence in Montenegro as was in Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosovo. Montenegro would of been even worse off then the three mentioned they just missed the bullet thanks to NATO I am sure that is why Montenegro is joining NATO.

Vuk is indeed the best thing that happened to Serbia - the biggest joke. A guy traveling the world with no real results and no clear goals.

yes jeremic go and speak to a country that has recognized kosovo (montenegro) and estabilished diplomatic relations with kosovo im sure dukanovic is stupid enough to belive you (joke)

Unity... but only when it serves the interests of the Serbs.

Montenegrins face two choices unite with the Serbs and lose their identity or stand on their own feet and celebrating who they are.

God bless MOC for Jeremic did not come as a good Christian.

I love Vuk! He is the best thing that happened to Serbia. At the same time he is a nightmare for Albanians and the Americans. They wanted to prove that Serbia is still a rough state by provoking Serbs on a daily basis in Kosovo. However, they have failed thanks to Vuk! Keep up the good work. We are so proud of you!

Chavez would be envious of Serbia's FM.
As "Mospyt" pointed out, Jeremic is getting as extreme as it can. For clarification, he is an irritating figure but completely harmless to K. His logic is completely shattered by his frustration that no on is listening at him. He keeps shouting and hoping that by being louder will be perceived as stronger. That's because he is either an immature or suffers from learning disabilities. No wonder the most extreme serb element loves him because he plays their card of antagonizing and irritating everyone. Frankly he could not have come at a better times to be Serbia's FM, a living proof of Serb arrogance and segregation. He lacks the elementary diplomatic skills to be able to float in today's political streams. While ICJ is trying to reach a verdict he blasts with such fake optimism that "Pristina is nervous" and in the meantime repeats constantly that an unfavorable ICJ decision, Serbia will brush it off. While Montenegrins have already announced that they will never live in a Yugoslavia dominated by Serbs, he provokes their intelligence with unity statements.

To all you Albanians out there. We are just waiting for the day when you will stab our Montenegrin brothers and sisters in the back. You are not their friends (and they are not yours and it is only because the US told them to pretend they are that they seem to tollerate you for the time being), in fact I do not think you have any true friends (the US is only your "friend" because Albanian Americans bought influential and corrupt US politicians who do not know who you really are). You are just using them to accomplish your goals and we all know that in the meantime you are eyeing Montenegro territory. When that day happens and they will come to use crying for help we will forgive their sins and we will fight alongside again to defeat our common enemy. So keep mocking others while you do not accomplish anything by yourself and one day when reality sets in you will know how inefficient you have been. In Yugoslavia you could not accomplish anything despite almost unlimited support from the other republics and you are still nothing more than beggers for other people's money. Good luck because you will need a lot of it.

I simply adore the Serbian propaganda. It turns black into white and leaves you no time to understand what is going one. You almost feel guilty in questioning :)

The man is calling for government change and the Serbian press writes: Jeremic calls for unity...what?? ;))

His speech was a clear call for non-democratic change of the Govt in Montenegro:

we are one; we are brothers; we should not be divided;

it is the current Gov of MN that divides us- send them home and let us unite.

This is the essence of the message of Jeremic.

The Serbian disrespect towards the Montenegrin nation is simply disgusting.

Your hegemony towards your neighbours and particularly Montenegrins was your firs step in the 90s with Milosevic and still continues.

When our Pm Berisha called for unity in Kosovo. This guy sent a protest note, to the ALB. embassy in belgrade and asked to the Russian Fm Lavrov to make a statement about this issue. Now he is doing the same in Montenegro a sovereign country, which Serbia seems that don't recognise as so.The little vuk visit to Montenegro without an official permission is a scandal, and a direct threat to Montenegro and to the regional peace and security.This is a crazy foreign policy of Serbia that is very dangerous for the region. Someone should talk and teach to this guy, that playing with fire is dangerous, becouse you can get burned. When was he when Belgrade was burning. Let your foreign policy to someone that has experienced and know that playing with fire is dangerous. What this guy think, that he's playing a ps game??

He stopped short of saying "Montenegro is Serbia".
I assume he asked for permission to the Montenegrin government to go have a speech in Montenegro and implicitly criticize the actions the same Montenegrin government. It is a constant behavior from the Serb elite, they call for cooperation and freedom of movement and religion, and then "spit" (metaphorically speaking) on those who try to give them cooperation.

"Throughout history, Serbia and Montenegro have always been together and have never been, nor must they ever be, in conflict,” Jeremić said."

Serbia and Montenegro are not in conflict. You are in conflict with Kosovo, Montenegro is not. You are trying to drag Montenegro in your conflict. Or is that a veiled threat to Montenegro?

“The unity of the peoples of Serbia and Montenegro in religion, customs and spiritual heritage cannot be destroyed,” Jeremić said."

In fact the difference between your position and that of Montenegro is only political only when it comes to Kosovo, nothing in religion or customs or spiritual heritage, why do you put these here? Oh right, because you will talk about the patriarch Irinej in the next 5 minutes. You are assuming that he is the leader of the religion and customs and spiritual heritage and it is also very convenient for you that he speaks politics about Kosovo.
You can do these stunts only in Kosovo and Montenegro, because they are small and still weak, typical behavior of bullies.

Vuk is indeed the best thing that happened to Serbia - the biggest joke. A guy traveling the world with no real results and no clear goals.
(marko, 28 January 2010 12:06)
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His results are far better than anything Albanians have so far.
65 countries (most are specs on a map) is the result of America's pressure and nothing to do with anything Albanians have achieved, while the rest of the world is holding back.

Now if you count the numbers, Jeremic is a clear winner.

I cannot see how Albanians can call this failure. What their masters the Americans have done so far looks more like the failure they are chalking up to Jeremic.

To Peggy:
Calling Canada, USA, Saudi Arabia, most of Europe "specs on the map" is an indication of your need to change your glasses prescription. The 65 countries recognizing Kosovo are 65 losses for Serbia and great victories for Kosovo. The remaining countries are still on the table.
As far as "US pressured countries", I wonder why the greatest US allies, Israel, Greece, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraqi Us puppet gov't, Mexico, and many more haven't recognized Kosovo despite their dependence on US financially and militarily.
Jeremic is indeed Serbia's Great messenger, however, his arrogance and self proclaimed demi-GODdness will hurt Serbia in the near future. Begging countries to restrain until ICJ decision is a great risky business. One can only imagine the consequences to Serbia if ICJ is pro or even neutral to UDI. Of course, Jeremic wouldn't be held responsible despite him dropping the ball so to speak. Thus, singing goddly praise to a mortal is catastrophic said ME.

Mirub,
Canada, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the EU have supported the USA and not Albanians.

This Serbia vs Kosovo Albanian war was created by the USA, so that a Camp Bondsteel could be created...

"Montenegro would of been even worse off then the three mentioned they just missed the bullet thanks to NATO I am sure that is why Montenegro is joining NATO."
Lenard

Just keep on spreading your anti Serb propaganda. Are you still today blaming every Serbs for the Milosevic era? Perhaps we should return the favour by judging every Croat (if thats what you really are) after what they did to Serbs during WW2? Why didn't Serbia attack Macedonia if we are so bloodthirsty as you say? I would respect you if you had something productive to say, however, you are nothing more than a fanatic liar. When I read your comments I can understand why there was a war in the Balkans.

Lenard, you seem a bit distressed of late. What's going on? Why are you so threatened by speeches of unity and peace? Even your new Croatian president is giving out good vibes. How much better will it be for the region and everyone to get along with each other? It looks like the end of all this division is nearing.

As a person of Montenegrin origins I call on Milo to publically step down in shame for his actions.

Bring the era of the 90's to an end.
(Matthew, 28 January 2010 18:52)

Isn't it the 90's the time when Serbia was forcing the other Yug-republic into such "unions" against their will?

Apparently MN government left the 90's a long time ago and is the little man who tries to turn the wheel backwards. No!

To just another Canadian Serb,

To say that USA started the Kosovo-Serbian conflict just so they can build a cardboard, radarless, Google-earth-available, military base is as ridiculous as saying the whole purpose of the nose is to hold the glasses. US has bases in Bulgaria (far larger than Bondsteel), Turkey, Greece, North Italy, Sicily, and South Albania among others in vicinity. Which strategically make Bondsteel insignificant. Italy has a larger and more sophisticated military base in west Kosovo than Bondsteel. It has military airport and radar site. Thus, your argument does not make sense.

Look at the Albanians here badmouthing Jeremic,
I know that you would like Serbs from MN and Serbia divided into as much as possible states so you could with grater ease pursue your greater Albanian ambitions but here is a message for you:
I am from Montenegro and I liked Jeremics speech, we are one and the same people,and the same blood will be reunited in one national state of Serbia where Montenegro would be a federal part of this state.
The only thing necessary for that to happen is to chase away the cigarette smugglers in the government and this will happen overtime.

NATO was around to read Serbia the riot act,and just who the hell are they to read the riot act to anyone?when they attacked the FRY they broke their own charter and international law,some of you people can't get that through your heads,or like NATO maybe you don't care about the rule of law.

I guess you really dislike the entire Serbian population, but this apart, in which century are your living in?

Thank you Vuk for visiting Montenegro-thru out history montenegro had a few anti Srbians who after all had to flee and today is no different with djukanovic and co.
Serbia and Montenegro was always one and it will always be.

Gee Vuk Jeremić sure travels a lot former Vice President Al Gore of U.S. can help him. Jeremić can buy carbon offsets scam from him and make our planet??? I do not know but Gore will rich he makes a billion dollars a year off that scam.

bgdanon you talk about nationalism, solutions etc etc. Take a look around. Everyone else but Serbia wanted out of Jugoslavia. Instead pointing fingers at others maybe, just maybe you should consider that Serbia was wrong when it assumed that Serbia alone had the responsibility to forcefully keep Jugoslavia from disintegrating. This attempt at trying to spread responsibility and remove as much responsibility from Serbia is simply a falsity. There were no Croatian tanks in Belgrade. There were no Bosnian tanks in Belgrade. There were no Slovenian tanks in Belgrade.There were no Albanian attacks in Belgrade. Everyone but the Serbs stayed within their territories while the Serbs went to Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, and Kosova and wreaked havoc and total destruction in these places. That is Serbia's fault; and totally Serbia's responsibility.

Gojko,

I never read or watch CNN or any other US television stations like FOX. I like PBS, CBS' 60 Minutes, and ABC's 20/20, and some other well-balanced ones that bring critical and independent journalism.

Mirub Jager wrote:

"To Peggy:
Calling Canada, USA, Saudi Arabia, most of Europe "specs on the map" is an indication of your need to change your glasses prescription. The 65 countries recognizing Kosovo are 65 losses for Serbia and great victories for Kosovo. The remaining countries are still on the table."
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If you don't have a good counter argument then please stay away from putting words in my mouth.

I said most are specs not all are specs. I did not specify which one I saw as specs.
So by you trying to put words in my mouth and suggest that I called America, Canada and some European countries specs is a desperate attempt to discredit what I wrote. What it is, is a silly statement made by you when you don't have a good one.

Mirub,
those other bases were not built after 78 days of bombing. Those other bases were built after a mutual agreement.

Ask yourself, why the USA basically acted alone, and was instrumental in strong arming the Eu nations in the 78 days of bombing Serbia.

The whole event was glorified and televised as a prime time tv event. It took 78 days of bombing hospitals, water towers, bridges and the Chinese embassy, and still the Serbian Military walks out of Kosovo fully intact.

The US even advertised this show by saying the Serbian military was a formidable foe.

Yes, clearly the USA requires another as you say, a cardboard and radarless facility, so that they can police the Albanian druglords and rapists.

The best part of this base is that, it has allowed crime to increase and ethnic cleanse what remaining Serbs lived there.

To Johny:

The reason for Serbia's actions during the 1990s, imperfect as they were, is because, unlike other so-called ethnic groups in Yugoslavia, Serbs were spread out all over Croatia, Bosnia and other areas, and had been for several centuries.

Slovenian independence moves were resisted not solely by Serbs but by Yugoslav politicians and generals, many of them non-Serbs. And the reason was not entirely because they wished Slovenia and others to leave but that they should do so according to the 1974 constitution which allowed secession, though not as quickly and thoughtlessly as was dictated by an arrogant and resurgent Germany.

Had hundreds of thousands of Croats, Bosniaks or Albanians been resident in Serbia for as long as Serbs had been in their regions, then I can assure you that they would have had their tanks, or someone else’s tanks, in Belgrade.

Milan, I totally agree with you (I miss read your message)! I thought you were talking about Serbs.

Montenegro recognizing Kosovo is the same thing if Albania recognized Kosovo as a part of Serbia. I don't think that will ever happen. Why the divide Montenegro? Ridiculous!

The citizens are just as much as fault as the "gov't". They voted them in and voted for independence. Shame! Its an easy way to wash your hands clean of the Balkan wars and say that you were not involved. Where was karadzic born?

miri actually the 90's in the Balkans is not just about one man. Its about the appearance of nationalism in the region and about the leaders that appeared at that time as a result of this. You must recognise that even without Milosevic, nationalism, as a destructive force, would have existed.

Were Milosevic and his decision makers alive and totally honest they would have said they only tapped into existing sentiment. That sentiment was shared by many republics / provinces - that their people were making the most sacrifices for Jugoslavija and that therefore that must be redressed.

When I say nationalism I'm not just talking about the emotive side - I mean the demand by ethnic groups within Jugoslavija for their own nation state.

The first leaders of nationalism in that case were Milosevic, Tudjman, Rugova, Izetbegovic, Djukanovic, Kucan and Gligorov.

In my opinion its not the following leaders that had any solutions, but the generation after that. Montenegro is at least 2 leaders away from that.

It is a huge pity for Montenigrin democracy and development that one man has dominated politics for a length of time previously seen in Soviet Russia or among despotic African countries.

As a person of Montenegrin origins I call on Milo to publically step down in shame for his actions.

Bring the era of the 90's to an end.

Milan,

Looks like you read too much CNN!

Nervous?

bganon,
In a philosophical way your are right.T

No one denies the existence of nationalistic sentiment among the nations, be they Serb, Albanian, French or German. The last two are a classical example of rivals who finally found peace with each other, but at what cost?
Countless of wars. After each and every one of them one party was the winner and the other was the loser. The loser paid the price. Napoleon lost the war and France paid the price, Hitler lost the war and Germany paid the price (with territorial losses as well).
The Albanians lost the war (for whatever reason) when Ottoman empire disintegrated and they paid the price for the entire century. Milosevic and Serbia are rightfully perceived as the ones who triggered the disintegration of Yugoslavia by robbing the controlling party over the federation and by changing the Yugoslav constitution unilaterally through scraping of autonomy of the two provinces.
It's well documented in video tape, for example, Kucan refusing to allow Slovenia as part of an Yugoslavia controlled solely by Serbia.
The others followed through to end with Monte Negro.
So those sentiments you bring about, although existent, are not a basis for spreading the blame. Furthermore, to draw a parallel between Rugova and Milosevic is dishonest and unethical. Rugova was a pacifist who fought for most of his political life to re-institute the autonomy within Yugoslavia. It is Rugova's pacifist movement and the brutality of Milosevic that gave birth to the KLA as the only alternative left.
Serbia lost the wars, and the rest is history. The price for losing K-war is what we have today. The question is: Is Serbia ready for peace?

RE: The Montenegrin Denial of Kosovo

The Denial and recognition of an illegal Kosovo is a denial of Montenegro and Serbia. Part of "Metohia" is in current day Montenegro. The denial of Kosovo is a denial of Serbian and Montenegro's history, the founding nations of Serbia were Raska and Gora. The denial of Montenegro's own existance is at state here, something the current leadership of Djukanovic does not care for. They are more concerned of lining their pockets with contraband cigarrettes. The same can be said of Thaci and his terrorist regime who give a damn about their own citizens. The one man who cared about the Albanian citizens was muzzled and threatened by execution by the KLA; that was Ibriham Rugova.

The Albanians lay sole claim to Illyria, so does Croatia, do does Hungary and in some cases so does Slovania. The Albanian claim to Illyria stands in equal footing to Albanians coming from Tatarstan or Azerbaijan for that matter; purely speculative and beyond reproof.