Mikael C, Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? Yes just like every citizen of Croatia. Not as a special Serb nation inside Croatia like they wanted. Is Serbia offering a special nation status for its Croatians ,Hungarians ,Bulgarians ,Albanians ,Roma etc. Is Montenegro offering its Serbs it has the largest percentage of its population of Serbs then any of the other Republics ,no. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an Islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil. Ya right Serbs and Croatians would of out voted the Muslims democratically in Bosnia if they tried that ,its not true. Muslims of Bosnia were the most secular of any Muslim group in the world. Maybe some have been now radicalized because of the things Serbs did to them even then hardly worth mentioning. You believe yore top Serb leaders who were indicted to the man as war criminals by the ICTY court. Even the Serbs of Serbia even had to rise up against them to throw off their tyranny even against their own people the Serbs.
"Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly."
Lenard
Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? NO! Croats and muslims in Bosnia didn't care about the Serbs reluctance for an independent Bosnia. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil and in Kosovo Serbs had been harrassed for years by albanian terrorists. Did you expect Serbs to just sit and watch how they were going to be slaughtered once again by the ustashe and the mujahedin? This was a war that the Croats, muslims and albanians begun. Serbs were only defending themselves as we always have against these peoples, and we always will. Personally I think Serbia and the Serbian people should have nothing to do with any of you hypocrites, especially croats and albanians.
You seem to have overlooked all the examples I listed of what Albanian news sources claimed would happen - yet they never did happen.
Are you too embarrassed over the passport debacle still? Anyway, wait until April - then we will see who is correct.
You ask who will stop you? The United States, most likely. My government has what it wants from Kosovo already. New conflict will not be an advantage, so they will try and maintain the status quo. Sure, they will make press statements to keep naive people like you happy... but nothing is going to change up north.
And don't give me that about Presevo. Serbia proper does not have its integrity questioned by the international community nor does Serbia have UN and EU running its government.
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
You are right but there is still the strong aspirations of the nationalists which could possibly come back into power in 1-2 elections.
The problem is the change was not a voluntary one, and too early to have any blind trust.
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
(Jason, 27 January 2010 21:55)
Media tends to get hold of information befor its officially relased, no? How many times havent we seen B92 qouting Albanian news, are they all speculations, some may be yes but all? I will use this as your quote every time you will post in B92 once they install the base in north. Of course by that time you will propably use "Sasha" as your new alias and stop pretending being American.
Wow 95% of estimated 50.000 ppl living in north dont want KSF, gee I wonder what 70.000 Albanians feel when VS drive around their villages every day in Presheva, but noone asks them do they? Im sorry but this will be done the same way, we dont care and we surely wont ask anyone, today we officially got support from US, we are simply free to act, who's going to stop us?
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
If you could point me in the right direction,I would love to see these ditches of death.Where are they trepca mine,pristina soccer stadium,racak, or any of the other hundred mass grave sites named by that bastion of freedom and descency america.God bless Kosmet.
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
I have never seen it and hopefully will never have to see it in my life... but you can see every day people dying with an overdose and I don't have to repeat to you who is controlling this market in the EU!
We all know what happend 10 years ago and have not forgotten it, like we didn't forget what happend today 65 years ago, the k-a are not having the privilege of being the only victims!!
We are as well not forgetting all the lies that were associated to this war and not only coming from the Serbian camp.
Serbian have been demonized all the way down and yes, back in EU with the help of a biazed press we were believing that all Serbs were a bunch of criminals.
Fortunately the truth is slowly but surely emerging and yes back in EU we start having a different opinion as to how the war really happend, more important, who where the initiators behind the scene.
You want to have justice, so let your hatry aside, we also have the right to know and uncover the truth.
Who could have imagine 7 years that your friend Tony Blair will have to appear this friday before an investigation pannel to justify the war on Irak? (hopefully next one will be Bush)
It is already clear today that this war was based on fabricated evidences, lies and was illegal, like so many unilateral acts taken by the US and the UK, let alone NATO! And how many people already died from these illegal acts? Who will be accounted for these crimes??
So, you see, things are not that simple where you can dump a entire nation for generations into the trash can for the sake of revange and pride!
This is NOT what we need in
EU, so take a deep breath, get up to the standards if you want to be accepted and respected!
Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 17:59)
Lenard - Milosević or Arkan - is one. Srebrenica was doing by crazy peoples. But it can justified attacks against civilian Serbs in Kosovo in 1999 or 2004?? Than what justified attack agains Serbs in 1981?? What justified torching of Patriarchate of Peć in 1981??
If You don't know - in Bosnia died 25 thousand Serbs. Many times more than Albanians in Kosovo. And how many hundreds thousand Serbs was cleansed from Croatia in 1995?? Was any american bombs dropped against Croatia?? No - Americans supported this cleansings (they supported croatian army).
PS. Ask Bosniaks about Lašva Valley. Yes my friend - it was doing by Your croatian supporters.
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. [link]
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
(Pejoni, 27 January 2010 19:32)
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly. Imagine if the Serbs turned the cheek and worked for real peace showed the way. It would of been totally different. Rom 3:11 there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
Rom 3:12 All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Rom 3:13 "Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit. "The poison of vipers is on their lips." Rom 3:14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
Rom 3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood,
Rom 3:16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
Rom 3:17 and the way of peace they do not know."
Rom 3:18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes. Rom 3:5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? Rom 3:6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world?
Rom 3:7 Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner"? Rom 3:8 Why not say-as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say-"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.
Ataman what do you think of the gas projects in Hungary and Croatia http://www.emportal.rs/en/news/region/111296.html http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16470&Itemid=132
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. http://www.botasot.info/def.php?category=3&id=44793
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
We remember both Srebrenica and Jasenovac, Lenard.
Before throwing stones at Serbs, just check - aren't walls in that building called "Croatia" made of glass?
Yes! And they are going to be equipped with F-16 fighter jets, M1 Abrams tanks, and some short-range nuclear missiles...
Keep dreaming:)
Jason
Hahaha! Great comment Jason! Actually don't forget stealth fighter jets and some submarines they can use in the Ibar river. Hahaha!
The KPS can't even catch a cold much less go after the serbian mup. The other day 30 albanian kps gansters were sent to get 4 unarmed serbs. Real heroes! Albanians must be proud!!!
The reason why the 'multi-ethnic' KSF patrolling in Kosovo (especially North of the Ibar river) isn't the same as the Serbian army patrolling Southern Central Serbia is because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia and because these duties are fulfilled by KFOR.
I also applaud your abilities to speculate with no evidence what-so-ever about the KSF installing a fully operation 'base' as you call it in Northern Kosovo.
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
(Milan, 27 January 2010 12:53) Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 11:30)
Oh wow, well are you willing to bet your life on that? Because this is what Albanians risk if they trust Serbia once again and agree to live under a Serbian state.
So you are the one with the solid grasp of reality? Hmm, I wonder how many times do you think albanians must be slaughtered by the serbian state so they would not trust Serbia any longer!?
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
NATO's goal is to leave Kosovo ASAP and focus on A-stan entirely. Why shouldnt they, Kosovo has a young population and creating of multi-ethnic Security Force will satisfy the population in Kosovo. If Albanians can live in south Serbia with VS patrolling their streets shouldnt be any difference with KSF patrolling north. Oh and btw, KSF will open their military base soon in north.
Lenard you cant say anything about serbs at srebrenica as the croatian ustase quais goverment was involved with the mass murder of over 500,000 serbs, jews and roma in WWII
I love how when Albanians cant do anything about Tadic spending Bozic in Kosovo you arrest normal serbs, trying to restart there lives, pathetic!!! Multi Cultural Society my backside!
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
(Agim, 27 January 2010 11:03)
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
(Agim, 27 January 2010 11:03)
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
NATO's goal is to leave Kosovo ASAP and focus on A-stan entirely. Why shouldnt they, Kosovo has a young population and creating of multi-ethnic Security Force will satisfy the population in Kosovo. If Albanians can live in south Serbia with VS patrolling their streets shouldnt be any difference with KSF patrolling north. Oh and btw, KSF will open their military base soon in north.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
Lenard you cant say anything about serbs at srebrenica as the croatian ustase quais goverment was involved with the mass murder of over 500,000 serbs, jews and roma in WWII
I love how when Albanians cant do anything about Tadic spending Bozic in Kosovo you arrest normal serbs, trying to restart there lives, pathetic!!! Multi Cultural Society my backside!
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
We remember both Srebrenica and Jasenovac, Lenard.
Before throwing stones at Serbs, just check - aren't walls in that building called "Croatia" made of glass?
Yes! And they are going to be equipped with F-16 fighter jets, M1 Abrams tanks, and some short-range nuclear missiles...
Keep dreaming:)
Jason
Hahaha! Great comment Jason! Actually don't forget stealth fighter jets and some submarines they can use in the Ibar river. Hahaha!
The KPS can't even catch a cold much less go after the serbian mup. The other day 30 albanian kps gansters were sent to get 4 unarmed serbs. Real heroes! Albanians must be proud!!!
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. http://www.botasot.info/def.php?category=3&id=44793
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 11:30)
Oh wow, well are you willing to bet your life on that? Because this is what Albanians risk if they trust Serbia once again and agree to live under a Serbian state.
So you are the one with the solid grasp of reality? Hmm, I wonder how many times do you think albanians must be slaughtered by the serbian state so they would not trust Serbia any longer!?
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
The reason why the 'multi-ethnic' KSF patrolling in Kosovo (especially North of the Ibar river) isn't the same as the Serbian army patrolling Southern Central Serbia is because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia and because these duties are fulfilled by KFOR.
I also applaud your abilities to speculate with no evidence what-so-ever about the KSF installing a fully operation 'base' as you call it in Northern Kosovo.
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
(Milan, 27 January 2010 12:53) Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
"Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly."
Lenard
Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? NO! Croats and muslims in Bosnia didn't care about the Serbs reluctance for an independent Bosnia. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil and in Kosovo Serbs had been harrassed for years by albanian terrorists. Did you expect Serbs to just sit and watch how they were going to be slaughtered once again by the ustashe and the mujahedin? This was a war that the Croats, muslims and albanians begun. Serbs were only defending themselves as we always have against these peoples, and we always will. Personally I think Serbia and the Serbian people should have nothing to do with any of you hypocrites, especially croats and albanians.
You seem to have overlooked all the examples I listed of what Albanian news sources claimed would happen - yet they never did happen.
Are you too embarrassed over the passport debacle still? Anyway, wait until April - then we will see who is correct.
You ask who will stop you? The United States, most likely. My government has what it wants from Kosovo already. New conflict will not be an advantage, so they will try and maintain the status quo. Sure, they will make press statements to keep naive people like you happy... but nothing is going to change up north.
And don't give me that about Presevo. Serbia proper does not have its integrity questioned by the international community nor does Serbia have UN and EU running its government.
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
(Jason, 27 January 2010 21:55)
Media tends to get hold of information befor its officially relased, no? How many times havent we seen B92 qouting Albanian news, are they all speculations, some may be yes but all? I will use this as your quote every time you will post in B92 once they install the base in north. Of course by that time you will propably use "Sasha" as your new alias and stop pretending being American.
Wow 95% of estimated 50.000 ppl living in north dont want KSF, gee I wonder what 70.000 Albanians feel when VS drive around their villages every day in Presheva, but noone asks them do they? Im sorry but this will be done the same way, we dont care and we surely wont ask anyone, today we officially got support from US, we are simply free to act, who's going to stop us?
Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly. Imagine if the Serbs turned the cheek and worked for real peace showed the way. It would of been totally different. Rom 3:11 there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
Rom 3:12 All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Rom 3:13 "Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit. "The poison of vipers is on their lips." Rom 3:14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
Rom 3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood,
Rom 3:16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
Rom 3:17 and the way of peace they do not know."
Rom 3:18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes. Rom 3:5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? Rom 3:6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world?
Rom 3:7 Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner"? Rom 3:8 Why not say-as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say-"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.
Ataman what do you think of the gas projects in Hungary and Croatia http://www.emportal.rs/en/news/region/111296.html http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16470&Itemid=132
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
I have never seen it and hopefully will never have to see it in my life... but you can see every day people dying with an overdose and I don't have to repeat to you who is controlling this market in the EU!
We all know what happend 10 years ago and have not forgotten it, like we didn't forget what happend today 65 years ago, the k-a are not having the privilege of being the only victims!!
We are as well not forgetting all the lies that were associated to this war and not only coming from the Serbian camp.
Serbian have been demonized all the way down and yes, back in EU with the help of a biazed press we were believing that all Serbs were a bunch of criminals.
Fortunately the truth is slowly but surely emerging and yes back in EU we start having a different opinion as to how the war really happend, more important, who where the initiators behind the scene.
You want to have justice, so let your hatry aside, we also have the right to know and uncover the truth.
Who could have imagine 7 years that your friend Tony Blair will have to appear this friday before an investigation pannel to justify the war on Irak? (hopefully next one will be Bush)
It is already clear today that this war was based on fabricated evidences, lies and was illegal, like so many unilateral acts taken by the US and the UK, let alone NATO! And how many people already died from these illegal acts? Who will be accounted for these crimes??
So, you see, things are not that simple where you can dump a entire nation for generations into the trash can for the sake of revange and pride!
This is NOT what we need in
EU, so take a deep breath, get up to the standards if you want to be accepted and respected!
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. [link]
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
(Pejoni, 27 January 2010 19:32)
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 17:59)
Lenard - Milosević or Arkan - is one. Srebrenica was doing by crazy peoples. But it can justified attacks against civilian Serbs in Kosovo in 1999 or 2004?? Than what justified attack agains Serbs in 1981?? What justified torching of Patriarchate of Peć in 1981??
If You don't know - in Bosnia died 25 thousand Serbs. Many times more than Albanians in Kosovo. And how many hundreds thousand Serbs was cleansed from Croatia in 1995?? Was any american bombs dropped against Croatia?? No - Americans supported this cleansings (they supported croatian army).
PS. Ask Bosniaks about Lašva Valley. Yes my friend - it was doing by Your croatian supporters.
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
If you could point me in the right direction,I would love to see these ditches of death.Where are they trepca mine,pristina soccer stadium,racak, or any of the other hundred mass grave sites named by that bastion of freedom and descency america.God bless Kosmet.
Mikael C, Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? Yes just like every citizen of Croatia. Not as a special Serb nation inside Croatia like they wanted. Is Serbia offering a special nation status for its Croatians ,Hungarians ,Bulgarians ,Albanians ,Roma etc. Is Montenegro offering its Serbs it has the largest percentage of its population of Serbs then any of the other Republics ,no. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an Islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil. Ya right Serbs and Croatians would of out voted the Muslims democratically in Bosnia if they tried that ,its not true. Muslims of Bosnia were the most secular of any Muslim group in the world. Maybe some have been now radicalized because of the things Serbs did to them even then hardly worth mentioning. You believe yore top Serb leaders who were indicted to the man as war criminals by the ICTY court. Even the Serbs of Serbia even had to rise up against them to throw off their tyranny even against their own people the Serbs.
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
You are right but there is still the strong aspirations of the nationalists which could possibly come back into power in 1-2 elections.
The problem is the change was not a voluntary one, and too early to have any blind trust.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
Really Jason, are you sure about that, how about you go and tell that to families of the dead in Srebrenica, mate youre so over your head in the balkan people knowledge that you starting to sound like a serb radical.
Must be all the Rakia that you drinking in Zvecan Kafanas that is clouding your Judgement.
(Agim, 27 January 2010 11:03)
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
NATO's goal is to leave Kosovo ASAP and focus on A-stan entirely. Why shouldnt they, Kosovo has a young population and creating of multi-ethnic Security Force will satisfy the population in Kosovo. If Albanians can live in south Serbia with VS patrolling their streets shouldnt be any difference with KSF patrolling north. Oh and btw, KSF will open their military base soon in north.
Lenard you cant say anything about serbs at srebrenica as the croatian ustase quais goverment was involved with the mass murder of over 500,000 serbs, jews and roma in WWII
I love how when Albanians cant do anything about Tadic spending Bozic in Kosovo you arrest normal serbs, trying to restart there lives, pathetic!!! Multi Cultural Society my backside!
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
Oh Yes - but Serbs in Kosovo remember ethnic cleansings in 1999 and 2004 under KFOR protect.
(Milan, 27 January 2010 12:53) Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
There is no comparison between Serbia now and then. Your lack of a solid grasp on reality is rather concerning.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 11:30)
Oh wow, well are you willing to bet your life on that? Because this is what Albanians risk if they trust Serbia once again and agree to live under a Serbian state.
So you are the one with the solid grasp of reality? Hmm, I wonder how many times do you think albanians must be slaughtered by the serbian state so they would not trust Serbia any longer!?
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
There he said that he expects KFOR – the NATO-led forces in Kosovo – to be status neutral and to act in keeping with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. That was tried before with the Serbs remember Srebrenica it dose not work.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 10:11)
We remember both Srebrenica and Jasenovac, Lenard.
Before throwing stones at Serbs, just check - aren't walls in that building called "Croatia" made of glass?
The reason why the 'multi-ethnic' KSF patrolling in Kosovo (especially North of the Ibar river) isn't the same as the Serbian army patrolling Southern Central Serbia is because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia and because these duties are fulfilled by KFOR.
I also applaud your abilities to speculate with no evidence what-so-ever about the KSF installing a fully operation 'base' as you call it in Northern Kosovo.
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. http://www.botasot.info/def.php?category=3&id=44793
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
Mikael C, Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? Yes just like every citizen of Croatia. Not as a special Serb nation inside Croatia like they wanted. Is Serbia offering a special nation status for its Croatians ,Hungarians ,Bulgarians ,Albanians ,Roma etc. Is Montenegro offering its Serbs it has the largest percentage of its population of Serbs then any of the other Republics ,no. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an Islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil. Ya right Serbs and Croatians would of out voted the Muslims democratically in Bosnia if they tried that ,its not true. Muslims of Bosnia were the most secular of any Muslim group in the world. Maybe some have been now radicalized because of the things Serbs did to them even then hardly worth mentioning. You believe yore top Serb leaders who were indicted to the man as war criminals by the ICTY court. Even the Serbs of Serbia even had to rise up against them to throw off their tyranny even against their own people the Serbs.
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
If you could point me in the right direction,I would love to see these ditches of death.Where are they trepca mine,pristina soccer stadium,racak, or any of the other hundred mass grave sites named by that bastion of freedom and descency america.God bless Kosmet.
If you can read Albanian, here you have it. [link]
KSF base will be installed in April, and arming of the security force will take in February until then you can still smuggle gazolin and zastava made weapons, hurry!
(Jason, 27 January 2010 18:10)
No we wont have any of those, we dont have the strong lobby Israel has to recive billions in weapons, sorry. But we will have a decent security force that will and can protect civilians from another slaughter in the 90s.
(Pejoni, 27 January 2010 19:32)
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
Yes! And they are going to be equipped with F-16 fighter jets, M1 Abrams tanks, and some short-range nuclear missiles...
Keep dreaming:)
Jason
Hahaha! Great comment Jason! Actually don't forget stealth fighter jets and some submarines they can use in the Ibar river. Hahaha!
The KPS can't even catch a cold much less go after the serbian mup. The other day 30 albanian kps gansters were sent to get 4 unarmed serbs. Real heroes! Albanians must be proud!!!
Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly. Imagine if the Serbs turned the cheek and worked for real peace showed the way. It would of been totally different. Rom 3:11 there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
Rom 3:12 All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Rom 3:13 "Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit. "The poison of vipers is on their lips." Rom 3:14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
Rom 3:15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood,
Rom 3:16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
Rom 3:17 and the way of peace they do not know."
Rom 3:18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes. Rom 3:5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God's righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? Rom 3:6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world?
Rom 3:7 Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner"? Rom 3:8 Why not say-as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say-"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved.
Ataman what do you think of the gas projects in Hungary and Croatia http://www.emportal.rs/en/news/region/111296.html http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16470&Itemid=132
Hahaha, this is not a press release - its merely speculation! I clearly says "according to sources." Would these be the same sources that required Serbs crossing the boundary to need passports? Would these be the same sources that said EPS will never be allowed to operate in Kosovo? Would these be the same sources that said Russia and Serbia would recognize Kosovo in 2008? Would these be the same sources that predicted 100 recognitions in the first year? If the answer is yes, then ok, I get the joke. Please stop fooling around, man.
Furthermore, the population in the north is over 95% Serb so they need protection FROM people in the KSF. This crazy idea is another pipe dream. No one in the EU or US will allow it, nor would nearly 100% of the local population.
Albanian "news" is certainly not short on hopes and dreams though:)
(Jason, 27 January 2010 21:55)
Media tends to get hold of information befor its officially relased, no? How many times havent we seen B92 qouting Albanian news, are they all speculations, some may be yes but all? I will use this as your quote every time you will post in B92 once they install the base in north. Of course by that time you will propably use "Sasha" as your new alias and stop pretending being American.
Wow 95% of estimated 50.000 ppl living in north dont want KSF, gee I wonder what 70.000 Albanians feel when VS drive around their villages every day in Presheva, but noone asks them do they? Im sorry but this will be done the same way, we dont care and we surely wont ask anyone, today we officially got support from US, we are simply free to act, who's going to stop us?
Do they all so remember mass ethnic cleansing and murder under your beloved Serb leader Slobodan Milošević through out the region. That many Serbs took with unabashed fever against their defenceless neighbours. Orchestrated financed materially supported from Belgrade Serbia that brought uncounted misery ,destruction ,death mistrust that is still with us in the region. I dont have to remind you what another "brilliant" Serb is doing in the Quasi Srpska entity. With another Serb President Boris Tadić in the country of Bosnia i Herzegovina. Where do the Serbs think it will end with that kind of dealings with their neighbours.
(Lenard, 27 January 2010 17:59)
Lenard - Milosević or Arkan - is one. Srebrenica was doing by crazy peoples. But it can justified attacks against civilian Serbs in Kosovo in 1999 or 2004?? Than what justified attack agains Serbs in 1981?? What justified torching of Patriarchate of Peć in 1981??
If You don't know - in Bosnia died 25 thousand Serbs. Many times more than Albanians in Kosovo. And how many hundreds thousand Serbs was cleansed from Croatia in 1995?? Was any american bombs dropped against Croatia?? No - Americans supported this cleansings (they supported croatian army).
PS. Ask Bosniaks about Lašva Valley. Yes my friend - it was doing by Your croatian supporters.
Not really, Lenard. That was a completely different time and completely different government.
(Jason, 27 January 2010 10:36)
You are right but there is still the strong aspirations of the nationalists which could possibly come back into power in 1-2 elections.
The problem is the change was not a voluntary one, and too early to have any blind trust.
You seem to have overlooked all the examples I listed of what Albanian news sources claimed would happen - yet they never did happen.
Are you too embarrassed over the passport debacle still? Anyway, wait until April - then we will see who is correct.
You ask who will stop you? The United States, most likely. My government has what it wants from Kosovo already. New conflict will not be an advantage, so they will try and maintain the status quo. Sure, they will make press statements to keep naive people like you happy... but nothing is going to change up north.
And don't give me that about Presevo. Serbia proper does not have its integrity questioned by the international community nor does Serbia have UN and EU running its government.
Have you ever seen a mass grave full of civilian boddies dug by Serbian soldiers/police/thugs. You go see one and than come and talk about reality..... so far you speak as if you are from LALA land.
(Denis, 27 January 2010 17:35)
I have never seen it and hopefully will never have to see it in my life... but you can see every day people dying with an overdose and I don't have to repeat to you who is controlling this market in the EU!
We all know what happend 10 years ago and have not forgotten it, like we didn't forget what happend today 65 years ago, the k-a are not having the privilege of being the only victims!!
We are as well not forgetting all the lies that were associated to this war and not only coming from the Serbian camp.
Serbian have been demonized all the way down and yes, back in EU with the help of a biazed press we were believing that all Serbs were a bunch of criminals.
Fortunately the truth is slowly but surely emerging and yes back in EU we start having a different opinion as to how the war really happend, more important, who where the initiators behind the scene.
You want to have justice, so let your hatry aside, we also have the right to know and uncover the truth.
Who could have imagine 7 years that your friend Tony Blair will have to appear this friday before an investigation pannel to justify the war on Irak? (hopefully next one will be Bush)
It is already clear today that this war was based on fabricated evidences, lies and was illegal, like so many unilateral acts taken by the US and the UK, let alone NATO! And how many people already died from these illegal acts? Who will be accounted for these crimes??
So, you see, things are not that simple where you can dump a entire nation for generations into the trash can for the sake of revange and pride!
This is NOT what we need in
EU, so take a deep breath, get up to the standards if you want to be accepted and respected!
"Hello Ataman yes we remember Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The problem is we say never again with only self serving platitudes. While the wicked leaders plot for total power and revenge with their deadly moronic followers. Did the Serbs learn from their sufferings not to do the same to others ,No. When they thought they had supposedly the upper hand they used it mercilessly."
Lenard
Were the Serbs guaranteed equal rights in Croatia before they broke away? NO! Croats and muslims in Bosnia didn't care about the Serbs reluctance for an independent Bosnia. Besides, Izetbegovic wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia and on Serbian soil and in Kosovo Serbs had been harrassed for years by albanian terrorists. Did you expect Serbs to just sit and watch how they were going to be slaughtered once again by the ustashe and the mujahedin? This was a war that the Croats, muslims and albanians begun. Serbs were only defending themselves as we always have against these peoples, and we always will. Personally I think Serbia and the Serbian people should have nothing to do with any of you hypocrites, especially croats and albanians.
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