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Hyseni: Independence is irreversible

Kosovo Foreign Minister Skender Hyseni said in New York that Kosovo independence is irreversible.

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Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

LUCA
They say the way one writes, is an indication of how one speaks and thinks. Thank God not all Italians write like you. You make so many assumptions and mistakes in such a short comment that you break all records.
China nor Russia are stronger than US, and they will not be for quite some time (at least 100 years). Serbia will have no choice but trade its informal recognition of Kosovo to enter EU then Russia will not be a barrier. China always abstains when voting, so...

As far as China holding US debt has nothing to do with Kosovo. US uses "other people's money" concept as thus their prosperity.

Zoti

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.
(Jugoslavjia, 24 January 2010 01:42)

Jugoslavija do your remember the Albanian leader Ibrahim Rugova? He led a non-violent seccesionist movement for almost 20 years. Did the Serbs sit with him at the negotiating table? Nope, they abolished the autonomy granted in '74 and turned Kosova into a police state. The language of force is the only way you know how to negotiate and we have learned that lesson over the years so we are now gearing up for the next round of "negotiations" with Serbia and have chosen hardliners like UCK to do the negotiating this round as opposed to the non--violent methods of the late Rugova.

Luca

pre 14 godina

I am Italian but even if my governmetn recognize kosovo as a country I cannot agree with it at least because that kind of decision goes against the international laws. Serbia`s territorial integrity must be mantained and so I think that many of the countries which recognized kosovo must review their choose. You also forget that Russia and China (this last country is the real most powerfull one in the world... It own quite the whole U.S. debit...) got the power of VETO and believe me my fool friend... THEY WILL USE IT AND ME AND ALL THE SERBIAN WILL BE PARTY!

Jovan

pre 14 godina

"new talks could lead to new conflicts in the region"

wow. finally an Albanian is unveiling his greater-albanian ambitions!

it´s certainly only a welcome possibility in albanian circles if talks lead to conflicts.

my dear albanian friends, you are losing, and your socalled "politicians" that you can be so proud of are openly showing their fear of everything that could lead to peace and mutual understanding.

that´s why you are being duped, and why your greater-albanian cause will lose in the end.

it´s inevitable, and you will witness it.

ps: I wouldn´t be too sure of all those tiny little islands, they are like little flags in the wind... the number of socalled recognitions won´t stay the same.

and the wind is changing...

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

Anyway your serbo-,russophopic side as wel as your x-phobia(x=nationality of person who does not agree with your cliches and opinions) has already been known.This time you showed your low level hungarophobic instincsts.This is quite confusing If we take into account your frequent arrow cross style rethorics.What a contrast,what a confused person.Otherwise Joe your bets for AFC and NFC championship games?Finally something normal on fox tv tonight.During the break and between the two matches my american friends and I will have fun reading your "masterpieces".

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

I have already noticed that you have very big problems with comprehension.If you read carefully I did not say that Thaci is ajew just that he is a tool of certain circles.So besides reading superficial articles try to read some literature which can contribute to improving comprehension :I know you are not young but it is never to late to begin something.And I hope you have not forgotten hungarian proverb Which sounds"the owl tells the sparow that it has a big had".On this forum you are the one who very often puts down some ideas and cliches of hungarian far right the arrow cross movement.Many on this forum have already noticed it.One day you act like a far right hungarian the other one like a big enemy of antisemitism:What a cameleon.Anyway critics of Israel and jewish lobby in US or George Soros have nothing to do with a bit outdated and misused expression called antisemitism.But if we really try to find antisemitic acts today then often the treatment of palestinians by Isreal can be classified as one first of all.

Joe

pre 14 godina

szemi,

With your virulant antisemitism you show at least some consistency. As you explained in an earlier comment you have to refer to Jews in New York as those "dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan" to avoid being censured. You as a Hungarian list 6 names to make sure that people understand without any doubt that you refer to Jews. I didn't know that Gyurcsany and Thaci were also Jewish. Since you are an expert in this field maybe you know better. Anyway you represent well the majority of Hungarians, who see everything through their blind antisemitism and faults the Jews of New York for all their own problems and for the problems of the world. To see it it is enough to visit the Hungarian web sites for individual comments.
Sure to be loyal to Hungarian tradition you always try to deny this antisemitism. One of your arguments is that "we are not antisemits because we have the biggest synagogue in Europe". Well it was not built in the last 70 years.
Anyway as per your information I know now that the Jews of New York are also involved with Kosovo. It looks like people of Budapest are the best informed.

Jugoslavjia

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.

Luis

pre 14 godina

“Kosovo is ready to improve relations with the Republic of Serbia. Dialogue between our countries can be held regarding many questions of joint interest and only based on equality, between two independent and sovereign countries,” Hyseni said!

So it's up to Belgrade if they will be realistic or lead on the old politic of arrogance.

pss

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

Probably will have to be the case anyway. Serbia revoked the established autonomy which began this problem. There is no indication that Serbia would honor any agreement without outside compulsion.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

(Mike, 23 January 2010 18:44)'

Things can't be much better in Serbia, if people are using their new tourist visas to move to Europe to look for work (and temporary new wives): http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=10&status=jedna&vest=167802&title_add=Ode%20Pe%C5%A1ter%20u%20Evropu&kword_add=put%20u%20evropu%2C%20ukidanje%20viza

Let's hope they don't ruin the deal for the countries that don't have the White Schengen yet.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

US forces have been in Korea for 50 years, so extended deployments are nothing new.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

To repeat a non-truth repetitively dosn't make it the truth. One can claim independence all they want but the fact is, aggression can not be claimed as independence no matter how one wants to present it, regardless of who supports it or recognizes it as such.

Mr. Hyseni, the only irreversible acts in Kosovo & Metohija is the murder of innocent Serbian and ethnic Albanian, and other minority civilians, the destruction of Serbian religious & cultural heritage and worst of all, the unearthing of our beloved in Christian cemeteries...That will come at an unaffordably high price that your people will carry the burden for...by God's law.

The act you consider as "independence" is more than irreversible...it never existed nor will it ever exist on it's current foundation.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible

Independence from Belgrade perhaps, but sovereignty is unobtainable and EU membership is impossible. If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2010/01/20/nb-04

This guy couldn't have gotten the position he has on intelligence and experience alone.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@N.Young

Citizens born or who are naturalized on or from Kosovo & Metohija are Serbian. This means that those of Albanian descent by the same events are Serbian citizens...If this is insulting or degrading to you or any Serb on the territory of Kosovo & Metohija, you certainly have your options...The border to Greece, Bulgaria or Albania are elatively close and shouldn't cost you much to rent a U-Haul (if available in Europe)

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@TITO
What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.
(TITO, 23 January 2010 12:10)

We can thank TITO & the KPJ for that.

Katunari

pre 14 godina

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12)

The above statement is proof to the blind and to the deaf that Serbia is not interested in peace but rather annexation of lost territories.

The truth is that the majority of the Serb population in Serbia strongly feels that it is the victim of the NATO aggression and as a direct consequence of NATO bombing it lost Kosovo. No one to this day in Serbia has ever tried to explain the rationale reasons why NATO intervened but instead the Serbian elite (academics & politicians) take the easy way out by blaming primarily Albanians, Croats, Bosnians, and Slovenes and to some degree Montenegrins for Serbia’s failures. The Serbian elite have been very successful at selling the conspiracy theory to its people because of the very simple reason its way much easier to accept a lie than to admit to the horrible truth.

There has to be talks between Serbia and Kosovo but not about status. Kosovo and its people will never again agree to be ruled by irresponsible politicians in Belgrade. The only way that Serbia can take direct control of Kosovo is to occupy it with military and police otherwise Kosovars will never submit. Despite Mr. Tadic assurances that Serbia is committed to a peaceful solution the western alliance is aware that Serbia would use its military might to take over Kosovo if politics of the region changed and the circumstances allowed it. This is not a secret to anyone. Only one country stands in the way of this accomplishment and that is USA. As for the rest of the European countries, Serbia would simply ignore them and would continue with its own genocidal plans as it has done in the past. USA however would directly intervene militarily if Serbia ever tried to attack Kosovo and that is why the politicians in Belgrade act so peacefully.

The current political generation in Belgrade is unable and unwilling to strike a compromise. It completely refuses to recognize the reality and instead it focuses all its strength in the fantasy of gaining control of Kosovo. It will never happen again for the simple reason that Kosovo is recognized by USA, United Kingdom, France, Germany and Italy. These states are the most powerful states in the world and they will never rescind the recognition.

It will take a new breed of politicians to strike deal. There are so many unresolved issues that come away ahead of the status but for any talks to begin Serbia first must recognize the reality and come to the table with genuine intention of solving the problems and not obstructing the process. Until that happens we will continue to deprive ourselves of true progress and reconciliation. People in Serbia, and people in Kosovo must deliver an ultimatum to its politicians sit down and solve our problems that are making our lives more difficult as we have had enough of this nonsense for the past three decades. Peace to everyone.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Hyseni is the voice of cooperation
Joe, 23 January 2010 14:41)

Of course narcoterrorists and other bandits(Trockij,Sverdlov,Gyurcsány,Thaci,Koba,Kun Béla and similars the list is long) have always been very cooperativ with dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan.Nothing new here.Ugly business as usuall going on for thousands of years.The cooperation of evil forces .Once in NY Hyseni could cross Hudson river and visit his friends from New jersey involved in organ business.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

If only 1% of what this guy says would be correct, the situation for the minorities would be different, criminals and traffickers of all sorts would start ending in jail, k-a would not leave the province at any price, the 100 of thousands living abroad would start returning, a lot of BS coming fm puppet pseudo politicians but little facts to prove it !

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible
--
Now who believes in this rubbish? Even our Serbian-Albanian posters here have stopped repeating such nonsense.

The fact is that independence is irreversibly blocked so what we have is the status quo.

Until the leaders are ready to negotiate, the province and especially ethnic Albanians are stuck. It's time for change.

N.Young

pre 14 godina

Zoran,

I would refrain from referring to Kosovar-Albanians, Serbian-Albanians. This, I believe, is an insult of the highest kind. I guess if you wish to characterize yourself as an ardent Serb nationalist, you could call them Albanians from the Serbia province of Kosovo (or Kosmet).

You statement is uncool. If you knew the history of relations between the two entities: the many lives lost throughout the last century, but especially from 1990-1999, you would think twice before making such a statement.
Best
N.Y

Steve

pre 14 godina

If Kosovo's independence is irreversible then why oh why do you keep stating it.

It is so obvious that your are scared that it IS NOT irreversible because it hasn't ACTUALLY happened yet.


You big tool!

A.N.Other

pre 14 godina

Do you really think that after the Serbs have sent 800.000 K-Albanians on a "camping holiday" and killed several thousand of them, the K-Albanians would come back to "mother Serbia" Keep on dreaming about the good old days, but keep in mind that the world will not allow you to do this again!
And just food for thought: How many inhabitants does Serbia have? How many belong to a minority? Just in case you WOULD be able to regain Kosovo: would you really look forward to the next elections? For sure your new presidents name wouldn't be some ~ic...

But enjoy your dream as long as it lasts...

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

This statement is a complete joke from start to finish. Whether it be the security situation or the return of displaced persons, the man is living a lie.

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.

Top

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions and that visible progress was made in that sector in 2009 as well."

Visible progress? Maybe he got a microscope for X-Mas? :-)

TITO

pre 14 godina

What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions..."

Of course it has! That's why Serbs are not able to travel freely accross Kosovo and thats why Serbs in the north are prevented from being integrated with the rest of Serbia. That's why Serb cemetaries are being destroyed daily and that's why Serbs live in ghettos surrounded by barbed wire and NATO troops. Does any normal albanian actually think Serbia will ever recognize and accept this?
Kosovo is Serbian land! Tadic made that clear yesterday and we are not giving it up for anybody to rape!

Vojvoda

pre 14 godina

I personaly agree that everything he said is true.
I wonder why Serbia's government don't accept the truth and move on with our lives knowing that ball is on Serbia's side to make keep peace in balkans.

Vojvoda

pre 14 godina

I personaly agree that everything he said is true.
I wonder why Serbia's government don't accept the truth and move on with our lives knowing that ball is on Serbia's side to make keep peace in balkans.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions..."

Of course it has! That's why Serbs are not able to travel freely accross Kosovo and thats why Serbs in the north are prevented from being integrated with the rest of Serbia. That's why Serb cemetaries are being destroyed daily and that's why Serbs live in ghettos surrounded by barbed wire and NATO troops. Does any normal albanian actually think Serbia will ever recognize and accept this?
Kosovo is Serbian land! Tadic made that clear yesterday and we are not giving it up for anybody to rape!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

This statement is a complete joke from start to finish. Whether it be the security situation or the return of displaced persons, the man is living a lie.

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.

Katunari

pre 14 godina

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12)

The above statement is proof to the blind and to the deaf that Serbia is not interested in peace but rather annexation of lost territories.

The truth is that the majority of the Serb population in Serbia strongly feels that it is the victim of the NATO aggression and as a direct consequence of NATO bombing it lost Kosovo. No one to this day in Serbia has ever tried to explain the rationale reasons why NATO intervened but instead the Serbian elite (academics & politicians) take the easy way out by blaming primarily Albanians, Croats, Bosnians, and Slovenes and to some degree Montenegrins for Serbia’s failures. The Serbian elite have been very successful at selling the conspiracy theory to its people because of the very simple reason its way much easier to accept a lie than to admit to the horrible truth.

There has to be talks between Serbia and Kosovo but not about status. Kosovo and its people will never again agree to be ruled by irresponsible politicians in Belgrade. The only way that Serbia can take direct control of Kosovo is to occupy it with military and police otherwise Kosovars will never submit. Despite Mr. Tadic assurances that Serbia is committed to a peaceful solution the western alliance is aware that Serbia would use its military might to take over Kosovo if politics of the region changed and the circumstances allowed it. This is not a secret to anyone. Only one country stands in the way of this accomplishment and that is USA. As for the rest of the European countries, Serbia would simply ignore them and would continue with its own genocidal plans as it has done in the past. USA however would directly intervene militarily if Serbia ever tried to attack Kosovo and that is why the politicians in Belgrade act so peacefully.

The current political generation in Belgrade is unable and unwilling to strike a compromise. It completely refuses to recognize the reality and instead it focuses all its strength in the fantasy of gaining control of Kosovo. It will never happen again for the simple reason that Kosovo is recognized by USA, United Kingdom, France, Germany and Italy. These states are the most powerful states in the world and they will never rescind the recognition.

It will take a new breed of politicians to strike deal. There are so many unresolved issues that come away ahead of the status but for any talks to begin Serbia first must recognize the reality and come to the table with genuine intention of solving the problems and not obstructing the process. Until that happens we will continue to deprive ourselves of true progress and reconciliation. People in Serbia, and people in Kosovo must deliver an ultimatum to its politicians sit down and solve our problems that are making our lives more difficult as we have had enough of this nonsense for the past three decades. Peace to everyone.

TITO

pre 14 godina

What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.

Top

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions and that visible progress was made in that sector in 2009 as well."

Visible progress? Maybe he got a microscope for X-Mas? :-)

Steve

pre 14 godina

If Kosovo's independence is irreversible then why oh why do you keep stating it.

It is so obvious that your are scared that it IS NOT irreversible because it hasn't ACTUALLY happened yet.


You big tool!

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible
--
Now who believes in this rubbish? Even our Serbian-Albanian posters here have stopped repeating such nonsense.

The fact is that independence is irreversibly blocked so what we have is the status quo.

Until the leaders are ready to negotiate, the province and especially ethnic Albanians are stuck. It's time for change.

A.N.Other

pre 14 godina

Do you really think that after the Serbs have sent 800.000 K-Albanians on a "camping holiday" and killed several thousand of them, the K-Albanians would come back to "mother Serbia" Keep on dreaming about the good old days, but keep in mind that the world will not allow you to do this again!
And just food for thought: How many inhabitants does Serbia have? How many belong to a minority? Just in case you WOULD be able to regain Kosovo: would you really look forward to the next elections? For sure your new presidents name wouldn't be some ~ic...

But enjoy your dream as long as it lasts...

Amer

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

US forces have been in Korea for 50 years, so extended deployments are nothing new.

N.Young

pre 14 godina

Zoran,

I would refrain from referring to Kosovar-Albanians, Serbian-Albanians. This, I believe, is an insult of the highest kind. I guess if you wish to characterize yourself as an ardent Serb nationalist, you could call them Albanians from the Serbia province of Kosovo (or Kosmet).

You statement is uncool. If you knew the history of relations between the two entities: the many lives lost throughout the last century, but especially from 1990-1999, you would think twice before making such a statement.
Best
N.Y

szemi

pre 14 godina

Hyseni is the voice of cooperation
Joe, 23 January 2010 14:41)

Of course narcoterrorists and other bandits(Trockij,Sverdlov,Gyurcsány,Thaci,Koba,Kun Béla and similars the list is long) have always been very cooperativ with dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan.Nothing new here.Ugly business as usuall going on for thousands of years.The cooperation of evil forces .Once in NY Hyseni could cross Hudson river and visit his friends from New jersey involved in organ business.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

If only 1% of what this guy says would be correct, the situation for the minorities would be different, criminals and traffickers of all sorts would start ending in jail, k-a would not leave the province at any price, the 100 of thousands living abroad would start returning, a lot of BS coming fm puppet pseudo politicians but little facts to prove it !

Mike

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible

Independence from Belgrade perhaps, but sovereignty is unobtainable and EU membership is impossible. If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2010/01/20/nb-04

This guy couldn't have gotten the position he has on intelligence and experience alone.

pss

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

Probably will have to be the case anyway. Serbia revoked the established autonomy which began this problem. There is no indication that Serbia would honor any agreement without outside compulsion.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

To repeat a non-truth repetitively dosn't make it the truth. One can claim independence all they want but the fact is, aggression can not be claimed as independence no matter how one wants to present it, regardless of who supports it or recognizes it as such.

Mr. Hyseni, the only irreversible acts in Kosovo & Metohija is the murder of innocent Serbian and ethnic Albanian, and other minority civilians, the destruction of Serbian religious & cultural heritage and worst of all, the unearthing of our beloved in Christian cemeteries...That will come at an unaffordably high price that your people will carry the burden for...by God's law.

The act you consider as "independence" is more than irreversible...it never existed nor will it ever exist on it's current foundation.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@N.Young

Citizens born or who are naturalized on or from Kosovo & Metohija are Serbian. This means that those of Albanian descent by the same events are Serbian citizens...If this is insulting or degrading to you or any Serb on the territory of Kosovo & Metohija, you certainly have your options...The border to Greece, Bulgaria or Albania are elatively close and shouldn't cost you much to rent a U-Haul (if available in Europe)

Amer

pre 14 godina

'If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

(Mike, 23 January 2010 18:44)'

Things can't be much better in Serbia, if people are using their new tourist visas to move to Europe to look for work (and temporary new wives): http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=10&status=jedna&vest=167802&title_add=Ode%20Pe%C5%A1ter%20u%20Evropu&kword_add=put%20u%20evropu%2C%20ukidanje%20viza

Let's hope they don't ruin the deal for the countries that don't have the White Schengen yet.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@TITO
What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.
(TITO, 23 January 2010 12:10)

We can thank TITO & the KPJ for that.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

I have already noticed that you have very big problems with comprehension.If you read carefully I did not say that Thaci is ajew just that he is a tool of certain circles.So besides reading superficial articles try to read some literature which can contribute to improving comprehension :I know you are not young but it is never to late to begin something.And I hope you have not forgotten hungarian proverb Which sounds"the owl tells the sparow that it has a big had".On this forum you are the one who very often puts down some ideas and cliches of hungarian far right the arrow cross movement.Many on this forum have already noticed it.One day you act like a far right hungarian the other one like a big enemy of antisemitism:What a cameleon.Anyway critics of Israel and jewish lobby in US or George Soros have nothing to do with a bit outdated and misused expression called antisemitism.But if we really try to find antisemitic acts today then often the treatment of palestinians by Isreal can be classified as one first of all.

Jugoslavjia

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.

Luis

pre 14 godina

“Kosovo is ready to improve relations with the Republic of Serbia. Dialogue between our countries can be held regarding many questions of joint interest and only based on equality, between two independent and sovereign countries,” Hyseni said!

So it's up to Belgrade if they will be realistic or lead on the old politic of arrogance.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

Anyway your serbo-,russophopic side as wel as your x-phobia(x=nationality of person who does not agree with your cliches and opinions) has already been known.This time you showed your low level hungarophobic instincsts.This is quite confusing If we take into account your frequent arrow cross style rethorics.What a contrast,what a confused person.Otherwise Joe your bets for AFC and NFC championship games?Finally something normal on fox tv tonight.During the break and between the two matches my american friends and I will have fun reading your "masterpieces".

Jovan

pre 14 godina

"new talks could lead to new conflicts in the region"

wow. finally an Albanian is unveiling his greater-albanian ambitions!

it´s certainly only a welcome possibility in albanian circles if talks lead to conflicts.

my dear albanian friends, you are losing, and your socalled "politicians" that you can be so proud of are openly showing their fear of everything that could lead to peace and mutual understanding.

that´s why you are being duped, and why your greater-albanian cause will lose in the end.

it´s inevitable, and you will witness it.

ps: I wouldn´t be too sure of all those tiny little islands, they are like little flags in the wind... the number of socalled recognitions won´t stay the same.

and the wind is changing...

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

LUCA
They say the way one writes, is an indication of how one speaks and thinks. Thank God not all Italians write like you. You make so many assumptions and mistakes in such a short comment that you break all records.
China nor Russia are stronger than US, and they will not be for quite some time (at least 100 years). Serbia will have no choice but trade its informal recognition of Kosovo to enter EU then Russia will not be a barrier. China always abstains when voting, so...

As far as China holding US debt has nothing to do with Kosovo. US uses "other people's money" concept as thus their prosperity.

Joe

pre 14 godina

szemi,

With your virulant antisemitism you show at least some consistency. As you explained in an earlier comment you have to refer to Jews in New York as those "dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan" to avoid being censured. You as a Hungarian list 6 names to make sure that people understand without any doubt that you refer to Jews. I didn't know that Gyurcsany and Thaci were also Jewish. Since you are an expert in this field maybe you know better. Anyway you represent well the majority of Hungarians, who see everything through their blind antisemitism and faults the Jews of New York for all their own problems and for the problems of the world. To see it it is enough to visit the Hungarian web sites for individual comments.
Sure to be loyal to Hungarian tradition you always try to deny this antisemitism. One of your arguments is that "we are not antisemits because we have the biggest synagogue in Europe". Well it was not built in the last 70 years.
Anyway as per your information I know now that the Jews of New York are also involved with Kosovo. It looks like people of Budapest are the best informed.

Zoti

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.
(Jugoslavjia, 24 January 2010 01:42)

Jugoslavija do your remember the Albanian leader Ibrahim Rugova? He led a non-violent seccesionist movement for almost 20 years. Did the Serbs sit with him at the negotiating table? Nope, they abolished the autonomy granted in '74 and turned Kosova into a police state. The language of force is the only way you know how to negotiate and we have learned that lesson over the years so we are now gearing up for the next round of "negotiations" with Serbia and have chosen hardliners like UCK to do the negotiating this round as opposed to the non--violent methods of the late Rugova.

Luca

pre 14 godina

I am Italian but even if my governmetn recognize kosovo as a country I cannot agree with it at least because that kind of decision goes against the international laws. Serbia`s territorial integrity must be mantained and so I think that many of the countries which recognized kosovo must review their choose. You also forget that Russia and China (this last country is the real most powerfull one in the world... It own quite the whole U.S. debit...) got the power of VETO and believe me my fool friend... THEY WILL USE IT AND ME AND ALL THE SERBIAN WILL BE PARTY!

TITO

pre 14 godina

What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.

Vojvoda

pre 14 godina

I personaly agree that everything he said is true.
I wonder why Serbia's government don't accept the truth and move on with our lives knowing that ball is on Serbia's side to make keep peace in balkans.

Steve

pre 14 godina

If Kosovo's independence is irreversible then why oh why do you keep stating it.

It is so obvious that your are scared that it IS NOT irreversible because it hasn't ACTUALLY happened yet.


You big tool!

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible
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Now who believes in this rubbish? Even our Serbian-Albanian posters here have stopped repeating such nonsense.

The fact is that independence is irreversibly blocked so what we have is the status quo.

Until the leaders are ready to negotiate, the province and especially ethnic Albanians are stuck. It's time for change.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions..."

Of course it has! That's why Serbs are not able to travel freely accross Kosovo and thats why Serbs in the north are prevented from being integrated with the rest of Serbia. That's why Serb cemetaries are being destroyed daily and that's why Serbs live in ghettos surrounded by barbed wire and NATO troops. Does any normal albanian actually think Serbia will ever recognize and accept this?
Kosovo is Serbian land! Tadic made that clear yesterday and we are not giving it up for anybody to rape!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

This statement is a complete joke from start to finish. Whether it be the security situation or the return of displaced persons, the man is living a lie.

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.

A.N.Other

pre 14 godina

Do you really think that after the Serbs have sent 800.000 K-Albanians on a "camping holiday" and killed several thousand of them, the K-Albanians would come back to "mother Serbia" Keep on dreaming about the good old days, but keep in mind that the world will not allow you to do this again!
And just food for thought: How many inhabitants does Serbia have? How many belong to a minority? Just in case you WOULD be able to regain Kosovo: would you really look forward to the next elections? For sure your new presidents name wouldn't be some ~ic...

But enjoy your dream as long as it lasts...

Top

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni said that the well-being and return of minority groups and displaced persons to Kosovo has been the priority of the Kosovo institutions and that visible progress was made in that sector in 2009 as well."

Visible progress? Maybe he got a microscope for X-Mas? :-)

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@TITO
What a load of cobblers! We know what your plans were since the famous Prizren Ligue in which Albanians set their goals of greater Albania and complete unification of all lands in which they live, like Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece apart from Serbia. You could fool few people few times but not all people all the time my Albanian friends.
We shall never recognize your fascist creation.
(TITO, 23 January 2010 12:10)

We can thank TITO & the KPJ for that.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Hyseni: Independence is irreversible

Independence from Belgrade perhaps, but sovereignty is unobtainable and EU membership is impossible. If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/setimes/newsbriefs/2010/01/20/nb-04

This guy couldn't have gotten the position he has on intelligence and experience alone.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

If only 1% of what this guy says would be correct, the situation for the minorities would be different, criminals and traffickers of all sorts would start ending in jail, k-a would not leave the province at any price, the 100 of thousands living abroad would start returning, a lot of BS coming fm puppet pseudo politicians but little facts to prove it !

szemi

pre 14 godina

Hyseni is the voice of cooperation
Joe, 23 January 2010 14:41)

Of course narcoterrorists and other bandits(Trockij,Sverdlov,Gyurcsány,Thaci,Koba,Kun Béla and similars the list is long) have always been very cooperativ with dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan.Nothing new here.Ugly business as usuall going on for thousands of years.The cooperation of evil forces .Once in NY Hyseni could cross Hudson river and visit his friends from New jersey involved in organ business.

Ликота

pre 14 godina

@N.Young

Citizens born or who are naturalized on or from Kosovo & Metohija are Serbian. This means that those of Albanian descent by the same events are Serbian citizens...If this is insulting or degrading to you or any Serb on the territory of Kosovo & Metohija, you certainly have your options...The border to Greece, Bulgaria or Albania are elatively close and shouldn't cost you much to rent a U-Haul (if available in Europe)

Ликота

pre 14 godina

To repeat a non-truth repetitively dosn't make it the truth. One can claim independence all they want but the fact is, aggression can not be claimed as independence no matter how one wants to present it, regardless of who supports it or recognizes it as such.

Mr. Hyseni, the only irreversible acts in Kosovo & Metohija is the murder of innocent Serbian and ethnic Albanian, and other minority civilians, the destruction of Serbian religious & cultural heritage and worst of all, the unearthing of our beloved in Christian cemeteries...That will come at an unaffordably high price that your people will carry the burden for...by God's law.

The act you consider as "independence" is more than irreversible...it never existed nor will it ever exist on it's current foundation.

N.Young

pre 14 godina

Zoran,

I would refrain from referring to Kosovar-Albanians, Serbian-Albanians. This, I believe, is an insult of the highest kind. I guess if you wish to characterize yourself as an ardent Serb nationalist, you could call them Albanians from the Serbia province of Kosovo (or Kosmet).

You statement is uncool. If you knew the history of relations between the two entities: the many lives lost throughout the last century, but especially from 1990-1999, you would think twice before making such a statement.
Best
N.Y

Katunari

pre 14 godina

As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12)

The above statement is proof to the blind and to the deaf that Serbia is not interested in peace but rather annexation of lost territories.

The truth is that the majority of the Serb population in Serbia strongly feels that it is the victim of the NATO aggression and as a direct consequence of NATO bombing it lost Kosovo. No one to this day in Serbia has ever tried to explain the rationale reasons why NATO intervened but instead the Serbian elite (academics & politicians) take the easy way out by blaming primarily Albanians, Croats, Bosnians, and Slovenes and to some degree Montenegrins for Serbia’s failures. The Serbian elite have been very successful at selling the conspiracy theory to its people because of the very simple reason its way much easier to accept a lie than to admit to the horrible truth.

There has to be talks between Serbia and Kosovo but not about status. Kosovo and its people will never again agree to be ruled by irresponsible politicians in Belgrade. The only way that Serbia can take direct control of Kosovo is to occupy it with military and police otherwise Kosovars will never submit. Despite Mr. Tadic assurances that Serbia is committed to a peaceful solution the western alliance is aware that Serbia would use its military might to take over Kosovo if politics of the region changed and the circumstances allowed it. This is not a secret to anyone. Only one country stands in the way of this accomplishment and that is USA. As for the rest of the European countries, Serbia would simply ignore them and would continue with its own genocidal plans as it has done in the past. USA however would directly intervene militarily if Serbia ever tried to attack Kosovo and that is why the politicians in Belgrade act so peacefully.

The current political generation in Belgrade is unable and unwilling to strike a compromise. It completely refuses to recognize the reality and instead it focuses all its strength in the fantasy of gaining control of Kosovo. It will never happen again for the simple reason that Kosovo is recognized by USA, United Kingdom, France, Germany and Italy. These states are the most powerful states in the world and they will never rescind the recognition.

It will take a new breed of politicians to strike deal. There are so many unresolved issues that come away ahead of the status but for any talks to begin Serbia first must recognize the reality and come to the table with genuine intention of solving the problems and not obstructing the process. Until that happens we will continue to deprive ourselves of true progress and reconciliation. People in Serbia, and people in Kosovo must deliver an ultimatum to its politicians sit down and solve our problems that are making our lives more difficult as we have had enough of this nonsense for the past three decades. Peace to everyone.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

US forces have been in Korea for 50 years, so extended deployments are nothing new.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'If conditions were as good as the delusional foreign minister thinks, K Albanians wouldn't be getting Serbian passports in Gracanica to leave.

(Mike, 23 January 2010 18:44)'

Things can't be much better in Serbia, if people are using their new tourist visas to move to Europe to look for work (and temporary new wives): http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=10&status=jedna&vest=167802&title_add=Ode%20Pe%C5%A1ter%20u%20Evropu&kword_add=put%20u%20evropu%2C%20ukidanje%20viza

Let's hope they don't ruin the deal for the countries that don't have the White Schengen yet.

pss

pre 14 godina

'As for his comments on further status talks, the fact is that either those talks happen or NATO remain in the province for a thousand years.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 23 January 2010 13:12) '

Probably will have to be the case anyway. Serbia revoked the established autonomy which began this problem. There is no indication that Serbia would honor any agreement without outside compulsion.

Jugoslavjia

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.

Joe

pre 14 godina

szemi,

With your virulant antisemitism you show at least some consistency. As you explained in an earlier comment you have to refer to Jews in New York as those "dark criminal circles based in Brooklyn and Manhattan" to avoid being censured. You as a Hungarian list 6 names to make sure that people understand without any doubt that you refer to Jews. I didn't know that Gyurcsany and Thaci were also Jewish. Since you are an expert in this field maybe you know better. Anyway you represent well the majority of Hungarians, who see everything through their blind antisemitism and faults the Jews of New York for all their own problems and for the problems of the world. To see it it is enough to visit the Hungarian web sites for individual comments.
Sure to be loyal to Hungarian tradition you always try to deny this antisemitism. One of your arguments is that "we are not antisemits because we have the biggest synagogue in Europe". Well it was not built in the last 70 years.
Anyway as per your information I know now that the Jews of New York are also involved with Kosovo. It looks like people of Budapest are the best informed.

Jovan

pre 14 godina

"new talks could lead to new conflicts in the region"

wow. finally an Albanian is unveiling his greater-albanian ambitions!

it´s certainly only a welcome possibility in albanian circles if talks lead to conflicts.

my dear albanian friends, you are losing, and your socalled "politicians" that you can be so proud of are openly showing their fear of everything that could lead to peace and mutual understanding.

that´s why you are being duped, and why your greater-albanian cause will lose in the end.

it´s inevitable, and you will witness it.

ps: I wouldn´t be too sure of all those tiny little islands, they are like little flags in the wind... the number of socalled recognitions won´t stay the same.

and the wind is changing...

Luis

pre 14 godina

“Kosovo is ready to improve relations with the Republic of Serbia. Dialogue between our countries can be held regarding many questions of joint interest and only based on equality, between two independent and sovereign countries,” Hyseni said!

So it's up to Belgrade if they will be realistic or lead on the old politic of arrogance.

Luca

pre 14 godina

I am Italian but even if my governmetn recognize kosovo as a country I cannot agree with it at least because that kind of decision goes against the international laws. Serbia`s territorial integrity must be mantained and so I think that many of the countries which recognized kosovo must review their choose. You also forget that Russia and China (this last country is the real most powerfull one in the world... It own quite the whole U.S. debit...) got the power of VETO and believe me my fool friend... THEY WILL USE IT AND ME AND ALL THE SERBIAN WILL BE PARTY!

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

Anyway your serbo-,russophopic side as wel as your x-phobia(x=nationality of person who does not agree with your cliches and opinions) has already been known.This time you showed your low level hungarophobic instincsts.This is quite confusing If we take into account your frequent arrow cross style rethorics.What a contrast,what a confused person.Otherwise Joe your bets for AFC and NFC championship games?Finally something normal on fox tv tonight.During the break and between the two matches my american friends and I will have fun reading your "masterpieces".

szemi

pre 14 godina

Joe,

I have already noticed that you have very big problems with comprehension.If you read carefully I did not say that Thaci is ajew just that he is a tool of certain circles.So besides reading superficial articles try to read some literature which can contribute to improving comprehension :I know you are not young but it is never to late to begin something.And I hope you have not forgotten hungarian proverb Which sounds"the owl tells the sparow that it has a big had".On this forum you are the one who very often puts down some ideas and cliches of hungarian far right the arrow cross movement.Many on this forum have already noticed it.One day you act like a far right hungarian the other one like a big enemy of antisemitism:What a cameleon.Anyway critics of Israel and jewish lobby in US or George Soros have nothing to do with a bit outdated and misused expression called antisemitism.But if we really try to find antisemitic acts today then often the treatment of palestinians by Isreal can be classified as one first of all.

Zoti

pre 14 godina

What is reversible is the Albanian people rising up and voting out this KLA terrorist regime led by Thaci who doesnt' care about the people but fattening their pockets.

A more moderate Albanian leadership in Kosovo may bring lasting peace and open up negotiations.

Otherwise, force is the only option and the Serbs must consider this to defend the last Serbs remaining in Kosovo in Mitrovica before another repeat of 2004.
(Jugoslavjia, 24 January 2010 01:42)

Jugoslavija do your remember the Albanian leader Ibrahim Rugova? He led a non-violent seccesionist movement for almost 20 years. Did the Serbs sit with him at the negotiating table? Nope, they abolished the autonomy granted in '74 and turned Kosova into a police state. The language of force is the only way you know how to negotiate and we have learned that lesson over the years so we are now gearing up for the next round of "negotiations" with Serbia and have chosen hardliners like UCK to do the negotiating this round as opposed to the non--violent methods of the late Rugova.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

LUCA
They say the way one writes, is an indication of how one speaks and thinks. Thank God not all Italians write like you. You make so many assumptions and mistakes in such a short comment that you break all records.
China nor Russia are stronger than US, and they will not be for quite some time (at least 100 years). Serbia will have no choice but trade its informal recognition of Kosovo to enter EU then Russia will not be a barrier. China always abstains when voting, so...

As far as China holding US debt has nothing to do with Kosovo. US uses "other people's money" concept as thus their prosperity.