Russian FM on NATO, Kosovo, Mesić

Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).

Wise word from a wise man. If there were more like him some things would be much better.

"Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).
(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010, 22:29)"

The blah blah comes from the US ambassadors in Serbia or other countries, from fake EU officials, and especially from the quasi-politicians in Kosovo and commentator like yourself who have no clue about almost anything. Russia is Serbia's ally and so they have every interest in Kosovo. Calling Russia a NATO target seems very unwise. Of course you can write that from behind your computer. If so, Russia will aim its nuclear arsenal to every NATO base and NATO capital in case some nut job at NATO decides to do something stupid, which is unlikely with multiple layers of security. Russia does not have to fear NATO, but they should be concerned about NATO's encirclement of Russia.

Tell me if I am wrong, but Lavrov's comments are well balanced as ideas behind them contribute to the rule of reason and international stability.
What a difference when compared to statements issues by some other world power(s) that wallow in all kinds of irresolvable contradictions.
Big plus for Russian diplomacy!

(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010, 22:29)

Read it carefully and if you don’t understand diplomacy, get someone to translate.
1. On NATO, Serbia will not join
2. On recognition of Kosovo as being independent, just a veiled warning to all that have done so.
3. On Stipe Mesic and the mighty Croatian Army, well what could they say here except that the Dayton Accord rules out the use of force – for those that don’t understand I’ll translate – Try it and you will be picking up Croatia in pieces, but he did say all of this in a nice way though.
4. As far as Russia staying away from Kosovo or it will be a NATO target – they have only begun to get involved. I told you that 2010 is going to be a very important year for change.

Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).
(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010 22:29)

======================

As usual, Albanian first to comment and threaten.

Can you deliver on that threat?

Mirub the fighter, if u'r looking for adrenaline, I'll suggest u to join Nato in Afganistan if u have the guts!
It's exactly because of people like u that kosovo has a bad image amög us european, so if u want to give a chance to ur province, go and work for it instead of posting absurd comments here!!
Well done Mr Lavrov

Mirub Jaget,
I did not know it sounds so funny in Albanian.
You are right: Russia is the target for NATO, like regular pedestrians are target for homeless people begging for some change. That's right, NATO is desperately begging Russia for aerial support in Afghanistan, because they are running out of ammunition, out of supplies, out of money, out of civilian support, out of everything.

What a difference when compared to statements issues by some other world power(s) that wallow in all kinds of irresolvable contradictions.
Big plus for Russian diplomacy!
(veki, 22 January 2010 23:30)
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Exactly veki, using force is a sign of weakness.

A clarification. I'm not Mirub Jaget from the prior comments. I apologize for others are using a similar name to mine.

On a different note. Does anyone know what happened to the one billion promised to Serbia from Russia?

But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

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Yes Strong China. Wonderful.

Mirub, don't forget, China is in bed with Russia NOT NATO.

Strong China, Strong Russia and Strong India. This is the holy trinity pal. These three are cooperating.

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.

Wise word from a wise man. If there were more like him some things would be much better.
(Milan, 22 January 2010 23:17)

Like whom? Oligarchs?

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

Mirube, NOt really sure what you mean inc CHina in this comment. However surely you agree that NATO attacked Serbia only because RUssia was weak? SUrely you can't believe they attacked Serbia to help the K-ALbanians? US\NATO have left you in the dustbin but you just haven't realized it.

Russia is not the Soviet Union anymore. Less respect for Russia as a power.

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)
This will happen only in an Albanian dream. There is more chance of NATO destroying Albania than it attacking Russia. However, the Russians maybe concerned that Albania, as part of NATO, might bring it donkey brigades to the fighting.

The Americans are only kidding themselves if they think that no one sees through them and their self-serving purpose for setting up Nato.

The Americans want to expand Nato not because of any altruistic intention to protect the world. Far from it. What the US wants is to snarl more and more guillible regimes into Nato to do its bidding and realize its insatiable appetites for more and more military aggression overseas. And of course to sucker these regimes into send their own people to die in places like Afghanistan and Iraq instead of Yankee soldiers.

To Georgian fury. It goes alot of ways but since Georgia is allied to USA , Russia wanted to show it can do things on its own same like USA is doing also. Unfortunately Georgia and Serbia have their territorial
integrity jeopardizes in both situations. Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.

Mirub, don't forget, China is in bed with Russia NOT NATO.
(Peggy, 23 January 2010 01:02)

Peggy, you obviously know little about China-Russia relationship.

See, contrary to what Serbs think, great powers are not grouped by their position to Kosovo.

Unbelievable how Russians plays Serbia poor Serbs they will have nothing left but memories of empty words. Last year Putin pined a Russian metal himself in the Kremlin on Croatian President Stjepan Mesić as the hero of Russia and fighter of Fascism. That included fighting Serbian brand of Fascism. Now they are offering Mesić to be the Chairman of the board for south stream. Putin just invited Croatian Premier Kosor to Russia. Begging her not to build a LNG super port to please join south stream that they will make it very worth wile for the Croatians. Also if they can yous our pipe line and one of our ports to tanker ship their oil for export they say they will make it to be very lucrative for us. Then again who trust Putin a high ranking KGB officer and his national advisors in the Kremlin. Majority of them his KGB cronies who run Russia as their private fiefdom and a law on to them selfs more then anything law breakers.

What a bunch of contradictions from Lavrov.
You think Kosovo belong to Serbia? Fine. But, stay away from Georgia, you imperialistic nut job.
You can't have them both ways. Get out of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

'Their interest lies in being the alternative to America and that's enough to keep America down.
(Peggy, 24 January 2010 01:31) '

Not if they start fighting among themselves, and remember, China and India have waged war in recent memory, and China still regards E. Siberia and the Far East as having been stolen from them by Russia. Anti-Americanism will take you only so far.

China in bed with Russia? Are you kidding me. China would swallow Russia the moment she turns to Europe. China will always support USA as long as USA holds their debt.

WE should remember that United Nations 1244 Resolution NEVER says that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but part of Federal Yugoslavia — a country that does not exist anymore…

If Lavrov thinks that NATO can't protect its own member why don't he try to attack any of them or counter attack when Serbia was being flattend during Kosovo war.

Haha, I love it when Russia tries to beat the drum and works on its posture... guess how many russian oligarchs lost their wealth as a result of the the credit crunch?? Russia isn't great and it will never be because the west won't allow it.

To Georgian fury. It goes alot of ways but since Georgia is allied to USA , Russia wanted to show it can do things on its own same like USA is doing also. Unfortunately Georgia and Serbia have their territorial
integrity jeopardizes in both situations. Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.
(Neb, 23 January 2010 18:00)

Just ask the people of Chile, Bolivia, Venezuela, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. and they will tell you a thing or two about US double standards and hypocrisy.

"Freedom and Democracy", yes but on America's terms.

Come on Mr Lavrov,wake up,stop using nationalistic comments. We all know who is strong and who is weak? We know that Russia does not have capacity to influence EU countries with backward politics. Can anyone say that one of former Soviet Republics said something good about Russia?

With all due respect, no one is interested to hear your opinion.

The country your represent has not contributed anything to our people and from day one Russia has been counter-productive instead of part of the solution.

RE:

(Lenard, 23 January 2010 09:45)


You should read the South Stream Project a little closer before shooting off your mouth. Croatia will be paying transit and other fees to Serbia,not the other way around. Serbia will be the HUB to other Western European Nations including Croatia. So, hopefully Josipovic is more moderate but a little more forceful than Ivo Sanadar.

As for Medic, his actions and words speak for himself. He has contributed to disturbing relations with Slovenia and contiues to antagonize Serbia to the detriment of the democractic institutions of Croatia.

Only extremists support this hothead.

(Lenard, 23 January 2010 09:45)

Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? What are you waiting for? Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project.
The only thing Mesic is being offered is a mop and bucket to clean the South stream pipeline offices. This information must all come out of that very special Croatian news service only available to Croats.
Lenard, just keep on dreaming I enjoy your comments immensely as they are very entertaining.

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.
(Amer, 23 January 2010 21:13)

No, they had another solution for that problem. Waited till the world's attention was on the Olympics too.

WE should remember that United Nations 1244 Resolution NEVER says that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but part of Federal Yugoslavia — a country that does not exist anymore…
(Gossamer, 23 January 2010 08:34)
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Oh, aren't we all sick of explaining this by now?

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

Its gas to see these Albanian teenage keyboard warriors mouth off absolute nonsense behind the protection of their keboards. If only their parents knew what they were getting up to.

These teenies have no idea of the changing geo-political climate. It seems to have escaped ther mind that the US is practically bankrupt, wallowing in debts of trillions with an imploding economy with 20%+ unemployment with tent cities while Russia, China and many OPEC countries getting ready to jettison the US dollar. The once mighty US imperialist war machine that waged a bloody campaign in SE Asia is sinking in the sands of Mespotamia and Afghanistan, the blood being drained from the beast's body like death from a thousand cuts.

You see Mirub, the world has come along way since 1999, the US can no longer bully, threathen and wage war like an imperialist power that it once did. We are moving quite rapidly into a multi-poar world. Serbia is not isolated. She has powerful allies, Brazil, Russia, China and India. If you Albanians or your Croatian lapdog friends try any fast moves, hen be prepared to suffer the consequences. Do you honestly think Moscow or Beijing would sit idly by? If you do then you are at worst naive.

Yes Russia is not the USSR, but she still posesses a powerful armed forces and of course so does China. We saw what Rusia did 18 months ago in Georgia when it destroyed a NATO trained and NATO equiped of 40,000 troops in less than 3 days with outdated equipment. Serbia is receiving Chinese aid so that ups the stakes alot.

The vast majority of NATO's armies are paper tiger armies. Just look at what is happening in Afghanistan. They are wilting under the pressure. If you think that for one nanosecond that they would fight the Serb and Russian armies (with Chinese assistance) over Kosovo then you need to reach into the cupboard for a nice cup of strong instant coffee.

Wake up my friend, we are living in very interesting times.

"Not if they start fighting among themselves, and remember, China and India have waged war in recent memory, and China still regards E. Siberia and the Far East as having been stolen from them by Russia. Anti-Americanism will take you only so far.
(Amer, 24 January 2010 15:00) "

For your info, China and Russia signed their final border agreement in Oct 2008. There is no more outstanding border issue between them. China however remains miffed about Taiwan .... guess who she profoundly blames for Taiwan's detachment from the mainland for over 60 years?

See, contrary to what Serbs think, great powers are not grouped by their position to Kosovo.
(Ruben, 23 January 2010 10:22)

Did I mention they were grouped by their position on Kosovo?

Their interest lies in being the alternative to America and that's enough to keep America down.

'Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.
(Neb, 23 January 2010 18:00) '

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.

China in bed with Russia? Are you kidding me. China would swallow Russia the moment she turns to Europe. China will always support USA as long as USA holds their debt.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 02:10)

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So, how are they supporting USA on this issue then?
What signals have to seen coming from China that they are supporting America? I must've missed them.
Was it when they supported the US at the ICJ? Yep, that was clear support.

sj-Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? We are. What are you waiting for? Environmental studies impacts to be finished. Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project. It is for landlocked Central European countries Italy has nothing to do with it. Switzerland ,Austria ,Hungary ,Slovenia and of course yore favourite country Croatia etc.[link][tt_news]=35857&tx_ttnews[backPid]=27&cHash=3baad3fb57 [link]
(Lenard, 24 January 2010 03:59)
That’s the Southstream gas pipeline you’re talking about. Yes a branch line is supposed to go from Serbia to Croatia then Slovenia then Italy and Switzerland, but another pipeline will branch off from Serbia to Hungary then to Austria, Slovenia and so on. That’s nothing new about this because it’s been on the cards for years. However, the “on and off” tap is in Serbia not Croatia and it will be Serbia that supplies the Balkans with gas and not Croatia. Serbia is the main distribution centre and if Mesic is to be Chair of Croatian gas well then bully for him, but its Serbia that will run things in the Balkans and that includes Mesic.
The Italians withdrew from a project to build a terminal on the Croatian coast to take ships carrying natural gas due to the project being uneconomic. This was supposed supply gas to Europe independent of the Russians.

(Peggy,) Glad you brought it up. Is that why that "brilliant" Serb hero Dodik. Is having his referendum in February when the winter Olympics is being held trying to destroy Bosnia.
(Lenard, 24 January 2010 05:31)
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I didn't know that Dodik was planning on some sort of an attack. Who is he attacking BTW?

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.
(Amer, 23 January 2010 21:13)
No, they had another solution for that problem. Waited till the world's attention was on the Olympics too.
(Peggy,) Glad you brought it up. Is that why that "brilliant" Serb hero Dodik. Is having his referendum in February when the winter Olympics is being held trying to destroy Bosnia.

sj-Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? We are. What are you waiting for? Environmental studies impacts to be finished. Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project. It is for landlocked Central European countries Italy has nothing to do with it. Switzerland ,Austria ,Hungary ,Slovenia and of course yore favourite country Croatia etc.http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=35857&tx_ttnews[backPid]=27&cHash=3baad3fb57 http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16470&Itemid=132

Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).

Wise word from a wise man. If there were more like him some things would be much better.

(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010, 22:29)

Read it carefully and if you don’t understand diplomacy, get someone to translate.
1. On NATO, Serbia will not join
2. On recognition of Kosovo as being independent, just a veiled warning to all that have done so.
3. On Stipe Mesic and the mighty Croatian Army, well what could they say here except that the Dayton Accord rules out the use of force – for those that don’t understand I’ll translate – Try it and you will be picking up Croatia in pieces, but he did say all of this in a nice way though.
4. As far as Russia staying away from Kosovo or it will be a NATO target – they have only begun to get involved. I told you that 2010 is going to be a very important year for change.

Mirub Jaget,
I did not know it sounds so funny in Albanian.
You are right: Russia is the target for NATO, like regular pedestrians are target for homeless people begging for some change. That's right, NATO is desperately begging Russia for aerial support in Afghanistan, because they are running out of ammunition, out of supplies, out of money, out of civilian support, out of everything.

Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).
(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010 22:29)

======================

As usual, Albanian first to comment and threaten.

Can you deliver on that threat?

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.

Russia is not the Soviet Union anymore. Less respect for Russia as a power.

"Allow me to translate: blah blah blah. Nlaah, blah blah.

Allow me to advise: stay away from Kosovo (you haven't invested there anything thus nothing to loose), be careful how you treat NATO (you are not a member but a target).
(Mirub Jaget, 22 January 2010, 22:29)"

The blah blah comes from the US ambassadors in Serbia or other countries, from fake EU officials, and especially from the quasi-politicians in Kosovo and commentator like yourself who have no clue about almost anything. Russia is Serbia's ally and so they have every interest in Kosovo. Calling Russia a NATO target seems very unwise. Of course you can write that from behind your computer. If so, Russia will aim its nuclear arsenal to every NATO base and NATO capital in case some nut job at NATO decides to do something stupid, which is unlikely with multiple layers of security. Russia does not have to fear NATO, but they should be concerned about NATO's encirclement of Russia.

Tell me if I am wrong, but Lavrov's comments are well balanced as ideas behind them contribute to the rule of reason and international stability.
What a difference when compared to statements issues by some other world power(s) that wallow in all kinds of irresolvable contradictions.
Big plus for Russian diplomacy!

But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

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Yes Strong China. Wonderful.

Mirub, don't forget, China is in bed with Russia NOT NATO.

Strong China, Strong Russia and Strong India. This is the holy trinity pal. These three are cooperating.

WE should remember that United Nations 1244 Resolution NEVER says that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but part of Federal Yugoslavia — a country that does not exist anymore…

Unbelievable how Russians plays Serbia poor Serbs they will have nothing left but memories of empty words. Last year Putin pined a Russian metal himself in the Kremlin on Croatian President Stjepan Mesić as the hero of Russia and fighter of Fascism. That included fighting Serbian brand of Fascism. Now they are offering Mesić to be the Chairman of the board for south stream. Putin just invited Croatian Premier Kosor to Russia. Begging her not to build a LNG super port to please join south stream that they will make it very worth wile for the Croatians. Also if they can yous our pipe line and one of our ports to tanker ship their oil for export they say they will make it to be very lucrative for us. Then again who trust Putin a high ranking KGB officer and his national advisors in the Kremlin. Majority of them his KGB cronies who run Russia as their private fiefdom and a law on to them selfs more then anything law breakers.

What a difference when compared to statements issues by some other world power(s) that wallow in all kinds of irresolvable contradictions.
Big plus for Russian diplomacy!
(veki, 22 January 2010 23:30)
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Exactly veki, using force is a sign of weakness.

Wise word from a wise man. If there were more like him some things would be much better.
(Milan, 22 January 2010 23:17)

Like whom? Oligarchs?

A clarification. I'm not Mirub Jaget from the prior comments. I apologize for others are using a similar name to mine.

On a different note. Does anyone know what happened to the one billion promised to Serbia from Russia?

With all due respect, no one is interested to hear your opinion.

The country your represent has not contributed anything to our people and from day one Russia has been counter-productive instead of part of the solution.

Haha, I love it when Russia tries to beat the drum and works on its posture... guess how many russian oligarchs lost their wealth as a result of the the credit crunch?? Russia isn't great and it will never be because the west won't allow it.

Mirub the fighter, if u'r looking for adrenaline, I'll suggest u to join Nato in Afganistan if u have the guts!
It's exactly because of people like u that kosovo has a bad image amög us european, so if u want to give a chance to ur province, go and work for it instead of posting absurd comments here!!
Well done Mr Lavrov

Come on Mr Lavrov,wake up,stop using nationalistic comments. We all know who is strong and who is weak? We know that Russia does not have capacity to influence EU countries with backward politics. Can anyone say that one of former Soviet Republics said something good about Russia?

China in bed with Russia? Are you kidding me. China would swallow Russia the moment she turns to Europe. China will always support USA as long as USA holds their debt.

If Lavrov thinks that NATO can't protect its own member why don't he try to attack any of them or counter attack when Serbia was being flattend during Kosovo war.

Mirub, don't forget, China is in bed with Russia NOT NATO.
(Peggy, 23 January 2010 01:02)

Peggy, you obviously know little about China-Russia relationship.

See, contrary to what Serbs think, great powers are not grouped by their position to Kosovo.

What a bunch of contradictions from Lavrov.
You think Kosovo belong to Serbia? Fine. But, stay away from Georgia, you imperialistic nut job.
You can't have them both ways. Get out of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

'Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.
(Neb, 23 January 2010 18:00) '

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.

'Their interest lies in being the alternative to America and that's enough to keep America down.
(Peggy, 24 January 2010 01:31) '

Not if they start fighting among themselves, and remember, China and India have waged war in recent memory, and China still regards E. Siberia and the Far East as having been stolen from them by Russia. Anti-Americanism will take you only so far.

The Americans are only kidding themselves if they think that no one sees through them and their self-serving purpose for setting up Nato.

The Americans want to expand Nato not because of any altruistic intention to protect the world. Far from it. What the US wants is to snarl more and more guillible regimes into Nato to do its bidding and realize its insatiable appetites for more and more military aggression overseas. And of course to sucker these regimes into send their own people to die in places like Afghanistan and Iraq instead of Yankee soldiers.

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)
This will happen only in an Albanian dream. There is more chance of NATO destroying Albania than it attacking Russia. However, the Russians maybe concerned that Albania, as part of NATO, might bring it donkey brigades to the fighting.

(Lenard, 23 January 2010 09:45)

Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? What are you waiting for? Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project.
The only thing Mesic is being offered is a mop and bucket to clean the South stream pipeline offices. This information must all come out of that very special Croatian news service only available to Croats.
Lenard, just keep on dreaming I enjoy your comments immensely as they are very entertaining.

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.
(Amer, 23 January 2010 21:13)
No, they had another solution for that problem. Waited till the world's attention was on the Olympics too.
(Peggy,) Glad you brought it up. Is that why that "brilliant" Serb hero Dodik. Is having his referendum in February when the winter Olympics is being held trying to destroy Bosnia.

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

Its gas to see these Albanian teenage keyboard warriors mouth off absolute nonsense behind the protection of their keboards. If only their parents knew what they were getting up to.

These teenies have no idea of the changing geo-political climate. It seems to have escaped ther mind that the US is practically bankrupt, wallowing in debts of trillions with an imploding economy with 20%+ unemployment with tent cities while Russia, China and many OPEC countries getting ready to jettison the US dollar. The once mighty US imperialist war machine that waged a bloody campaign in SE Asia is sinking in the sands of Mespotamia and Afghanistan, the blood being drained from the beast's body like death from a thousand cuts.

You see Mirub, the world has come along way since 1999, the US can no longer bully, threathen and wage war like an imperialist power that it once did. We are moving quite rapidly into a multi-poar world. Serbia is not isolated. She has powerful allies, Brazil, Russia, China and India. If you Albanians or your Croatian lapdog friends try any fast moves, hen be prepared to suffer the consequences. Do you honestly think Moscow or Beijing would sit idly by? If you do then you are at worst naive.

Yes Russia is not the USSR, but she still posesses a powerful armed forces and of course so does China. We saw what Rusia did 18 months ago in Georgia when it destroyed a NATO trained and NATO equiped of 40,000 troops in less than 3 days with outdated equipment. Serbia is receiving Chinese aid so that ups the stakes alot.

The vast majority of NATO's armies are paper tiger armies. Just look at what is happening in Afghanistan. They are wilting under the pressure. If you think that for one nanosecond that they would fight the Serb and Russian armies (with Chinese assistance) over Kosovo then you need to reach into the cupboard for a nice cup of strong instant coffee.

Wake up my friend, we are living in very interesting times.

If NATO decides to attack Russia, we will see Russia do exactly what she did in 1999 when Serbia was attacked. I know, I know, it is not the same Russia, it is not Yeltsin, blah, blah. But don't forget it is the same fleet, less military, smaller territory and a strong China.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 00:30)

Mirube, NOt really sure what you mean inc CHina in this comment. However surely you agree that NATO attacked Serbia only because RUssia was weak? SUrely you can't believe they attacked Serbia to help the K-ALbanians? US\NATO have left you in the dustbin but you just haven't realized it.

sj-Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? We are. What are you waiting for? Environmental studies impacts to be finished. Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project. It is for landlocked Central European countries Italy has nothing to do with it. Switzerland ,Austria ,Hungary ,Slovenia and of course yore favourite country Croatia etc.http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=35857&tx_ttnews[backPid]=27&cHash=3baad3fb57 http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16470&Itemid=132

To Georgian fury. It goes alot of ways but since Georgia is allied to USA , Russia wanted to show it can do things on its own same like USA is doing also. Unfortunately Georgia and Serbia have their territorial
integrity jeopardizes in both situations. Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.
(Neb, 23 January 2010 18:00)

Just ask the people of Chile, Bolivia, Venezuela, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. and they will tell you a thing or two about US double standards and hypocrisy.

"Freedom and Democracy", yes but on America's terms.

See, contrary to what Serbs think, great powers are not grouped by their position to Kosovo.
(Ruben, 23 January 2010 10:22)

Did I mention they were grouped by their position on Kosovo?

Their interest lies in being the alternative to America and that's enough to keep America down.

Georgia didn't try to expel the populations of So. Ossetia and Abkhazia from their lands and homes.
(Amer, 23 January 2010 21:13)

No, they had another solution for that problem. Waited till the world's attention was on the Olympics too.

WE should remember that United Nations 1244 Resolution NEVER says that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but part of Federal Yugoslavia — a country that does not exist anymore…
(Gossamer, 23 January 2010 08:34)
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Oh, aren't we all sick of explaining this by now?

To Georgian fury. It goes alot of ways but since Georgia is allied to USA , Russia wanted to show it can do things on its own same like USA is doing also. Unfortunately Georgia and Serbia have their territorial
integrity jeopardizes in both situations. Its funny USA was
saying that Russia helping and recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia is against the international law however they did not mention that Kosovo fell in the same category with what USA is doing. Double standards on the part of USA.

RE:

(Lenard, 23 January 2010 09:45)


You should read the South Stream Project a little closer before shooting off your mouth. Croatia will be paying transit and other fees to Serbia,not the other way around. Serbia will be the HUB to other Western European Nations including Croatia. So, hopefully Josipovic is more moderate but a little more forceful than Ivo Sanadar.

As for Medic, his actions and words speak for himself. He has contributed to disturbing relations with Slovenia and contiues to antagonize Serbia to the detriment of the democractic institutions of Croatia.

Only extremists support this hothead.

China in bed with Russia? Are you kidding me. China would swallow Russia the moment she turns to Europe. China will always support USA as long as USA holds their debt.
(Mirub Jaget, 23 January 2010 02:10)

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So, how are they supporting USA on this issue then?
What signals have to seen coming from China that they are supporting America? I must've missed them.
Was it when they supported the US at the ICJ? Yep, that was clear support.

"Not if they start fighting among themselves, and remember, China and India have waged war in recent memory, and China still regards E. Siberia and the Far East as having been stolen from them by Russia. Anti-Americanism will take you only so far.
(Amer, 24 January 2010 15:00) "

For your info, China and Russia signed their final border agreement in Oct 2008. There is no more outstanding border issue between them. China however remains miffed about Taiwan .... guess who she profoundly blames for Taiwan's detachment from the mainland for over 60 years?

sj-Well why don’t you build the “LNG super port”? We are. What are you waiting for? Environmental studies impacts to be finished. Oh! I see Croatia has high moral standards and not wish to dirty hands with KGB people or is it because the Italians withdrew from the project. It is for landlocked Central European countries Italy has nothing to do with it. Switzerland ,Austria ,Hungary ,Slovenia and of course yore favourite country Croatia etc.[link][tt_news]=35857&tx_ttnews[backPid]=27&cHash=3baad3fb57 [link]
(Lenard, 24 January 2010 03:59)
That’s the Southstream gas pipeline you’re talking about. Yes a branch line is supposed to go from Serbia to Croatia then Slovenia then Italy and Switzerland, but another pipeline will branch off from Serbia to Hungary then to Austria, Slovenia and so on. That’s nothing new about this because it’s been on the cards for years. However, the “on and off” tap is in Serbia not Croatia and it will be Serbia that supplies the Balkans with gas and not Croatia. Serbia is the main distribution centre and if Mesic is to be Chair of Croatian gas well then bully for him, but its Serbia that will run things in the Balkans and that includes Mesic.
The Italians withdrew from a project to build a terminal on the Croatian coast to take ships carrying natural gas due to the project being uneconomic. This was supposed supply gas to Europe independent of the Russians.

(Peggy,) Glad you brought it up. Is that why that "brilliant" Serb hero Dodik. Is having his referendum in February when the winter Olympics is being held trying to destroy Bosnia.
(Lenard, 24 January 2010 05:31)
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I didn't know that Dodik was planning on some sort of an attack. Who is he attacking BTW?