Tadić: Mesić engages in warmongering

Mesic was completely complicit in the destruction of Yugoslavia. When it was his turn to be Yugoslav president, he made it crystal clear he had absolutely no intention of preserving Yugoslavia or protecting minority rights in Croatia. Now he is at it again. As always, he is nothing more than an old-school populist. If he lived in the Soviet Union, he would have been a Stalinist, in Iraq he'd be a Baathist, in Afghanistan he'd be a Taliban, and in the Balkans he is a war mongering nationalist. The man has absolutely no tact. Joe Arpaio would be proud.

Dear Honorable President Tadić,

This jesture to attack RS by the outgoing Croatian president is even more reason to persue the Genocide Law Suit (encompassing WWII) against Croatia. The audacity to make such remarks and knowing full well of the atrocities committed against the Serbian people on behalf of Croatia in the past century and without any apology or retribution, is unacceptable. Please proceed with the law suit.

Sincerely,
Ликота

It is good that Serbia will bring this incident to the UNSC. Unfortunately the US, UK and Germany will downplay it as insignificant joke by a silly old man. However, I feel that the UN ambassador of Croatia should openly appologize to the people in RS and that if in the future Mesic continues to make anti-Serbia and anti-Serb comments that the Croation authorities will take action for he can no longer be protected by his imuninity. I know there is something like freedom of speech, but there is also discrimination based on ethnicithy among many others that in my European constitutions is against the law.

Fair Enough Mesic. If RS hold a referendum, so should Croats in Bosnia and Albanians in Macedonia follow? Therefore Balkan will be a big mess again and wars will start all over. RS has more rights than Albanians in Macedonia so they should stick to what they already have. Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.
(uli, 20 January 2010 19:49)

are you joking are what the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region then the croatian army came in to shoot at civilians and old people and yet NATO helped by bombing Serbian rebel positions in krajina. the croatian army is weak and yet it was over 250,000 croats against about 55-60,000 Serb rebels and it took 5 years until the world came to save the croats and Serbs left because of world threats to bomb serbia next make sure you talk truth and not fantasy. and tadic should take this to court and krajina all Serbs to return and get full autonomy in the Serb region because in fact that is serbian land not croatian land in history just like istra.

"Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.
(uli, 20 January 2010 19:49)"

And then Croatia as you know it today will become a relic of the past very quickly because NATO will be too split to act. And besides the Albanians nobody in the region will shed one single tear about that.

tadic should take this to court and krajina all Serbs to return and get full autonomy in the Serb region because in fact that is serbian land not croatian land in history just like istra.
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

Mesic stated he would send his army into another land to crush RS and defend the dayton agreement.
He also supports croatia's genocide suit against Serbia which the main arguement is centered on the JNA "invasion" the home army at the time. Now I be stumped. If Serbs in another land cannot have security from threats of madmen in Croatia what hope is there for Serbs in Croatia to avoid persecution.
Serbs should be granted autonomy under Z4, to have their rights protected or we are just going to go around the merry go round of Balkan death and destruction, if Serbia can be a mature enough nation in these times to grant Vojvodina autonomy why cannot Croatia be pressured to grant Krajina autonomy. Enough is enough from Croatia you are starting to sound like the sick man of the Balkans.
Jeremic your meetings with Bosnian officials and your style would make you an asset in any Govt's cabinet your a gem keep up the good work and send a little attention Krajina way.
All it takes is one veto from an EU country to get Croatia to be humble and accept autonomy for Krajina.

uli

Its better to finish what has been started. Otherwise there will always be conflicts and tensions and never peace. Lets once and for all settle the score!

"Tadić stated in Belgrade this evening that such pronouncements are threatening the security of all people and nations. Milorad Dodik is the Serbian peace maker. Serbian President Boris Tadić is the supporter of justice for Bosnia i Herzegovina Republic and correcting the horrendous criminal wrongs Serbs and Serbia did their. Their goes pompous Boris with his partner Dodik on their self righteous horses with the repentant Serbs cheering. While their country and economy collapses and they have know idea why keep up the good self delusional pretence.
(Lenard, 20 January 2010 20:14)"

I'll tell you the common man's perception of Croatia in the west. Once the good freedom fighters now the dangerous xenophobes. That is the reality. As for Tadic, he has not put a foot wrong. Think Lenard, what was threatened was military force, by Croatia. That is not welcome by anyone in the international community. Just look at the back tracking and isolation he is left in. Tadic is a good guy, Mesic is one of the leaders, including Serbian, who are responsible for the bloody break up of Yugoslavia.

"All this goes to show that none of the Balkan nations are ready for EU integration and never will be.
(Zook, 20 January 2010 21:02)"

Explain why that is the case for Serbia? However, if Croatia thinks it can resolve non violent civil issues with military action then maybe there is a case.

All this goes to show that none of the Balkan nations are ready for EU integration and never will be.

honeymoon between Serbia and Croatia is over. It lasted a good couple of days. I wonder if anybody asked Josipovic what he would do, if RS tried to break away. Maybe this whole thing, Mesic+Tadic, is directed at him.

Fair Enough Mesic. If RS hold a referendum, so should Croats in Bosnia and Albanians in Macedonia follow? Therefore Balkan will be a big mess again and wars will start all over. RS has more rights than Albanians in Macedonia so they should stick to what they already have. Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.

Tadić stated in Belgrade this evening that such pronouncements are threatening the security of all people and nations. Milorad Dodik is the Serbian peace maker. Serbian President Boris Tadić is the supporter of justice for Bosnia i Herzegovina Republic and correcting the horrendous criminal wrongs Serbs and Serbia did their. Their goes pompous Boris with his partner Dodik on their self righteous horses with the repentant Serbs cheering. While their country and economy collapses and they have know idea why keep up the good self delusional pretence.

It is amazing and shocking that he said this. Not a whisper of this in western media. First of all, Bosnian Serbs as well as Bosnian Croats never wanted an independent Bosnia in the first place. Second, the Bosnian Croats have themselves constructed parallel structures in Bosnia. The Croat muslem federation is a joke.
Threatening to invade another country and to silence the Bosnian Serbs is a cry for war and for war crimes.
The Croats should get off their high horse and face up to their own war past, whether Yugoslav war or WWII.

"...the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region..."
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

So Gajo you're saying that the Serbs left on their own accord? So that means that there is no case for Serbia against Croatia at the World Court? That's the only smart thing you said in that comment.

Dodik wants to finish Milosevic, Karadzic and co's Greater Serbia plan but seperating BiH... Mesic wants to keep it together. So, really, who is the warmonger?

My family goes back 500 yrs in the krajina. Will my rights as a croat be gaurded and gaurantee. I doubt it.

"...the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region..."
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

So Gajo you're saying that the Serbs left on their own accord? So that means that there is no case for Serbia against Croatia at the World Court? That's the only smart thing you said in that comment.

Dodik wants to finish Milosevic, Karadzic and co's Greater Serbia plan but seperating BiH... Mesic wants to keep it together. So, really, who is the warmonger?
(Franki, 20 January 2010 23:01)

you did not read my whole article did you maybe you should read the whole thing i said they did nothing to the Serbian rebels but THE CROATIANS KILLED INNOCENT OLD PEOPLE AND CHILDREN AND WOMAN thats all they did because the croaian military is weak and the courts will see this because the croatians did nothing until the serbian rebels left from world pressure, then the croats came in to kill the unarmed civilians.

Mesic just said about what Croatia could do, within the provisions of the Dayton Agreement which grants Croatia and Serbia as guarantors of territorial unity of the republic of Bosnia.

Serbia and Croatia can banter back and forth all they want who is better or worse. True Bosnians are ready they will not be led off to the slater in their thousands anymore. Their families and homes destroyed they are ready to defend their country and lifes. Who ever chalenges them Serbs or Croatians will be in for a very humbling and very rude awakening what a people can do. Rise up to the challenge when they have no choice except survival. They have learned what "good neighbours" they have and are prepared to fight back or live in real peace. Lets hope the Serbs and Croatians get it want the same.

Fair comment Lenard.
Bosnian first, Croat second you kept that quiet!
But remember in this instance it was Croatia, not Serbia, threatening to send troops into Bosnia.

But my underlying point is that Bosnia has always been an unfortunate pawn of Serbo-Croat relations.

Fair Enough Mesic. If RS hold a referendum, so should Croats in Bosnia and Albanians in Macedonia follow? Therefore Balkan will be a big mess again and wars will start all over. RS has more rights than Albanians in Macedonia so they should stick to what they already have. Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.

Tadić stated in Belgrade this evening that such pronouncements are threatening the security of all people and nations. Milorad Dodik is the Serbian peace maker. Serbian President Boris Tadić is the supporter of justice for Bosnia i Herzegovina Republic and correcting the horrendous criminal wrongs Serbs and Serbia did their. Their goes pompous Boris with his partner Dodik on their self righteous horses with the repentant Serbs cheering. While their country and economy collapses and they have know idea why keep up the good self delusional pretence.

"...the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region..."
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

So Gajo you're saying that the Serbs left on their own accord? So that means that there is no case for Serbia against Croatia at the World Court? That's the only smart thing you said in that comment.

Dodik wants to finish Milosevic, Karadzic and co's Greater Serbia plan but seperating BiH... Mesic wants to keep it together. So, really, who is the warmonger?

Mesic was completely complicit in the destruction of Yugoslavia. When it was his turn to be Yugoslav president, he made it crystal clear he had absolutely no intention of preserving Yugoslavia or protecting minority rights in Croatia. Now he is at it again. As always, he is nothing more than an old-school populist. If he lived in the Soviet Union, he would have been a Stalinist, in Iraq he'd be a Baathist, in Afghanistan he'd be a Taliban, and in the Balkans he is a war mongering nationalist. The man has absolutely no tact. Joe Arpaio would be proud.

Dear Honorable President Tadić,

This jesture to attack RS by the outgoing Croatian president is even more reason to persue the Genocide Law Suit (encompassing WWII) against Croatia. The audacity to make such remarks and knowing full well of the atrocities committed against the Serbian people on behalf of Croatia in the past century and without any apology or retribution, is unacceptable. Please proceed with the law suit.

Sincerely,
Ликота

tadic should take this to court and krajina all Serbs to return and get full autonomy in the Serb region because in fact that is serbian land not croatian land in history just like istra.
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

Mesic stated he would send his army into another land to crush RS and defend the dayton agreement.
He also supports croatia's genocide suit against Serbia which the main arguement is centered on the JNA "invasion" the home army at the time. Now I be stumped. If Serbs in another land cannot have security from threats of madmen in Croatia what hope is there for Serbs in Croatia to avoid persecution.
Serbs should be granted autonomy under Z4, to have their rights protected or we are just going to go around the merry go round of Balkan death and destruction, if Serbia can be a mature enough nation in these times to grant Vojvodina autonomy why cannot Croatia be pressured to grant Krajina autonomy. Enough is enough from Croatia you are starting to sound like the sick man of the Balkans.
Jeremic your meetings with Bosnian officials and your style would make you an asset in any Govt's cabinet your a gem keep up the good work and send a little attention Krajina way.
All it takes is one veto from an EU country to get Croatia to be humble and accept autonomy for Krajina.

Fair Enough Mesic. If RS hold a referendum, so should Croats in Bosnia and Albanians in Macedonia follow? Therefore Balkan will be a big mess again and wars will start all over. RS has more rights than Albanians in Macedonia so they should stick to what they already have. Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.
(uli, 20 January 2010 19:49)

are you joking are what the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region then the croatian army came in to shoot at civilians and old people and yet NATO helped by bombing Serbian rebel positions in krajina. the croatian army is weak and yet it was over 250,000 croats against about 55-60,000 Serb rebels and it took 5 years until the world came to save the croats and Serbs left because of world threats to bomb serbia next make sure you talk truth and not fantasy. and tadic should take this to court and krajina all Serbs to return and get full autonomy in the Serb region because in fact that is serbian land not croatian land in history just like istra.

All this goes to show that none of the Balkan nations are ready for EU integration and never will be.

"Tadić stated in Belgrade this evening that such pronouncements are threatening the security of all people and nations. Milorad Dodik is the Serbian peace maker. Serbian President Boris Tadić is the supporter of justice for Bosnia i Herzegovina Republic and correcting the horrendous criminal wrongs Serbs and Serbia did their. Their goes pompous Boris with his partner Dodik on their self righteous horses with the repentant Serbs cheering. While their country and economy collapses and they have know idea why keep up the good self delusional pretence.
(Lenard, 20 January 2010 20:14)"

I'll tell you the common man's perception of Croatia in the west. Once the good freedom fighters now the dangerous xenophobes. That is the reality. As for Tadic, he has not put a foot wrong. Think Lenard, what was threatened was military force, by Croatia. That is not welcome by anyone in the international community. Just look at the back tracking and isolation he is left in. Tadic is a good guy, Mesic is one of the leaders, including Serbian, who are responsible for the bloody break up of Yugoslavia.

It is good that Serbia will bring this incident to the UNSC. Unfortunately the US, UK and Germany will downplay it as insignificant joke by a silly old man. However, I feel that the UN ambassador of Croatia should openly appologize to the people in RS and that if in the future Mesic continues to make anti-Serbia and anti-Serb comments that the Croation authorities will take action for he can no longer be protected by his imuninity. I know there is something like freedom of speech, but there is also discrimination based on ethnicithy among many others that in my European constitutions is against the law.

"Croatians will take care of business as they did in Krajina if RS make such a move.
(uli, 20 January 2010 19:49)"

And then Croatia as you know it today will become a relic of the past very quickly because NATO will be too split to act. And besides the Albanians nobody in the region will shed one single tear about that.

"All this goes to show that none of the Balkan nations are ready for EU integration and never will be.
(Zook, 20 January 2010 21:02)"

Explain why that is the case for Serbia? However, if Croatia thinks it can resolve non violent civil issues with military action then maybe there is a case.

Serbia and Croatia can banter back and forth all they want who is better or worse. True Bosnians are ready they will not be led off to the slater in their thousands anymore. Their families and homes destroyed they are ready to defend their country and lifes. Who ever chalenges them Serbs or Croatians will be in for a very humbling and very rude awakening what a people can do. Rise up to the challenge when they have no choice except survival. They have learned what "good neighbours" they have and are prepared to fight back or live in real peace. Lets hope the Serbs and Croatians get it want the same.

It is amazing and shocking that he said this. Not a whisper of this in western media. First of all, Bosnian Serbs as well as Bosnian Croats never wanted an independent Bosnia in the first place. Second, the Bosnian Croats have themselves constructed parallel structures in Bosnia. The Croat muslem federation is a joke.
Threatening to invade another country and to silence the Bosnian Serbs is a cry for war and for war crimes.
The Croats should get off their high horse and face up to their own war past, whether Yugoslav war or WWII.

uli

Its better to finish what has been started. Otherwise there will always be conflicts and tensions and never peace. Lets once and for all settle the score!

Mesic just said about what Croatia could do, within the provisions of the Dayton Agreement which grants Croatia and Serbia as guarantors of territorial unity of the republic of Bosnia.

honeymoon between Serbia and Croatia is over. It lasted a good couple of days. I wonder if anybody asked Josipovic what he would do, if RS tried to break away. Maybe this whole thing, Mesic+Tadic, is directed at him.

"...the croatian army did nothing to the Serbian forces in krajina it was the world pressure that made the Serbian rebels leave the region..."
(gajo, 20 January 2010 20:59)

So Gajo you're saying that the Serbs left on their own accord? So that means that there is no case for Serbia against Croatia at the World Court? That's the only smart thing you said in that comment.

Dodik wants to finish Milosevic, Karadzic and co's Greater Serbia plan but seperating BiH... Mesic wants to keep it together. So, really, who is the warmonger?
(Franki, 20 January 2010 23:01)

you did not read my whole article did you maybe you should read the whole thing i said they did nothing to the Serbian rebels but THE CROATIANS KILLED INNOCENT OLD PEOPLE AND CHILDREN AND WOMAN thats all they did because the croaian military is weak and the courts will see this because the croatians did nothing until the serbian rebels left from world pressure, then the croats came in to kill the unarmed civilians.

My family goes back 500 yrs in the krajina. Will my rights as a croat be gaurded and gaurantee. I doubt it.

Fair comment Lenard.
Bosnian first, Croat second you kept that quiet!
But remember in this instance it was Croatia, not Serbia, threatening to send troops into Bosnia.

But my underlying point is that Bosnia has always been an unfortunate pawn of Serbo-Croat relations.