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Thursday, 14.01.2010.

14:25

Josipović “advised against visiting Kosovo”

Serbia and Bosnia will likely be the first trips abroad for newlyelected Croatian president Ivo Josipović, says an ethnic Serb leader in Croatia.

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Truth

pre 14 godina

Croatia’s newly elected President Ivo Josipovic regards Albania and Kosovo as partners Croatia has very good relations with. We have friendship, common history and common sea and we are geographically close, the Croatian head of state adds.He expects excellent cooperation between Croatia and Albania.
We have many open issues with Serbia, while with Kosovo we have no unsolved issues.

ron

pre 14 godina

Peggy,
This is how we should be discussing and look forward to improving relations between people in teh Balkan regardless of their ethnic background. I hope you will continue in this positive tone in all your future comments including "Kosovo issue".

iko

pre 14 godina

The Ustashe were fascists and their attitude to others who did not conform to their view of ethnic and ideological purity is considered rightfully obscene. No one 's father or son or daughter or mother deserves to end their life in a mass grave or be relegated as a second class citizen in their own country. Humanity expects better. On another but related note, Serbia has much to do to show that it can contribute something positive to the development of the region. They have much to to do to compensate for the justifiable mistrust and suspicion of their policies. Yugoslavia collapsed partially due to the fact that no one else could live with their blatant manipulation of the military, economy and politics of Yugoslavia. WE all hope that a dawn to a new era is approaching and that 'brotherhood and unity' is no longer seen as a an empty Titoist maxim.

sj

pre 14 godina

(H, 14 January 2010 23:42)

The problem is Serbs can do without any of you people, Croats, Albanians, Slovenes etc, but you can’t do without Serbs and that’s the difference.
With South stream gas pipeline coming on line, Serbia will be the major distribution centre to the western Balkans i.e Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Albania. Sorry to disappoint but Serbia will have an even bigger say in the Balkans than before. You see the Nabucco project is dead; the grand scheme of building a major gas facility in Croatia is dead in the water as well.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.
(bganon, 14 January 2010 15:14)
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Yes Serbs should line up at the border and await him with welcoming arms.
Are you equating vandalizing an embassey with committing genocide against a people?
As for "universal hatred" of the ustasha,maybe you should mention that to the hundreds of thousands of croatons who fill stadiums watching the ustasha thompson.Maybe when the catholic church and all those that aided and abetted the ustashe movement apologize for the millions of slaughtered men women and chidren of Serbian nationality,then that could in my eyes start a path to civility amongst Serbians and croatons.Untill then Serbia never forgive and never forget!!!!God bless Serbia.

H

pre 14 godina

It appears to be the case these days, that Croats are less interested in what Serbs have to say. The period of Serb predominance in the Balkans had plunged the region back into the Dark Ages. As a nation, Serbia must now revert back to its familiar position as a minor actor in regional affairs. Besides, the Croats trust Albanians more.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

On the surface the new president seem to genuenly want to improve relations with Serbia which is a huge step forward from Mesic.

This is beneficial to both countries. It does not mean that crimes should be swept under the carpent now and forgotten because we will never achieve any respect for each other this way. Victims need justice and deserve justice.

If both countries are sincere in admitting the crimes committed and show genuine remorse it will go a long way towards mutual respect.

Also it will open the eyes of many who are under the impression that crimes were not committed by their own.

Fredrick

pre 14 godina

Money and full bellies will always beat out Nationalism. Croatia's real estate market has suffered along with every where else in the world. I bet a few of those Croats seeling beach front property wouldn't mind selling to Serbs now.

bganon

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.

bganon

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.

Fredrick

pre 14 godina

Money and full bellies will always beat out Nationalism. Croatia's real estate market has suffered along with every where else in the world. I bet a few of those Croats seeling beach front property wouldn't mind selling to Serbs now.

H

pre 14 godina

It appears to be the case these days, that Croats are less interested in what Serbs have to say. The period of Serb predominance in the Balkans had plunged the region back into the Dark Ages. As a nation, Serbia must now revert back to its familiar position as a minor actor in regional affairs. Besides, the Croats trust Albanians more.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

On the surface the new president seem to genuenly want to improve relations with Serbia which is a huge step forward from Mesic.

This is beneficial to both countries. It does not mean that crimes should be swept under the carpent now and forgotten because we will never achieve any respect for each other this way. Victims need justice and deserve justice.

If both countries are sincere in admitting the crimes committed and show genuine remorse it will go a long way towards mutual respect.

Also it will open the eyes of many who are under the impression that crimes were not committed by their own.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.
(bganon, 14 January 2010 15:14)
.
Yes Serbs should line up at the border and await him with welcoming arms.
Are you equating vandalizing an embassey with committing genocide against a people?
As for "universal hatred" of the ustasha,maybe you should mention that to the hundreds of thousands of croatons who fill stadiums watching the ustasha thompson.Maybe when the catholic church and all those that aided and abetted the ustashe movement apologize for the millions of slaughtered men women and chidren of Serbian nationality,then that could in my eyes start a path to civility amongst Serbians and croatons.Untill then Serbia never forgive and never forget!!!!God bless Serbia.

sj

pre 14 godina

(H, 14 January 2010 23:42)

The problem is Serbs can do without any of you people, Croats, Albanians, Slovenes etc, but you can’t do without Serbs and that’s the difference.
With South stream gas pipeline coming on line, Serbia will be the major distribution centre to the western Balkans i.e Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Albania. Sorry to disappoint but Serbia will have an even bigger say in the Balkans than before. You see the Nabucco project is dead; the grand scheme of building a major gas facility in Croatia is dead in the water as well.

iko

pre 14 godina

The Ustashe were fascists and their attitude to others who did not conform to their view of ethnic and ideological purity is considered rightfully obscene. No one 's father or son or daughter or mother deserves to end their life in a mass grave or be relegated as a second class citizen in their own country. Humanity expects better. On another but related note, Serbia has much to do to show that it can contribute something positive to the development of the region. They have much to to do to compensate for the justifiable mistrust and suspicion of their policies. Yugoslavia collapsed partially due to the fact that no one else could live with their blatant manipulation of the military, economy and politics of Yugoslavia. WE all hope that a dawn to a new era is approaching and that 'brotherhood and unity' is no longer seen as a an empty Titoist maxim.

ron

pre 14 godina

Peggy,
This is how we should be discussing and look forward to improving relations between people in teh Balkan regardless of their ethnic background. I hope you will continue in this positive tone in all your future comments including "Kosovo issue".

Truth

pre 14 godina

Croatia’s newly elected President Ivo Josipovic regards Albania and Kosovo as partners Croatia has very good relations with. We have friendship, common history and common sea and we are geographically close, the Croatian head of state adds.He expects excellent cooperation between Croatia and Albania.
We have many open issues with Serbia, while with Kosovo we have no unsolved issues.

bganon

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

Josipovic is doing nothing to reduce his increasing popularity in Serbia so far.

It will be nice for us in Serbia when he visits to show that Serbian society doesn't suffer from Croatiophobia, as some sections of the Croatian population suffer from Serbophobia.

The recent problems as pointed out arise from the poor status of Croatian Serbs (and refusal to recognise - or at least not deny their ethnic cleansing) and the recognition of Kosovo.

The reaction from some quarters of the population (some of whom were ethnically cleansed from Croatia attacking the embassy during the protest) was a response to that.

Of course there is a universal hatred of the ustasa that remains from the WW2, but there are in fact many croats that remained in Serbia during the recent war (including my neighbour) who are respected.
(bganon, 14 January 2010 15:14)
.
Yes Serbs should line up at the border and await him with welcoming arms.
Are you equating vandalizing an embassey with committing genocide against a people?
As for "universal hatred" of the ustasha,maybe you should mention that to the hundreds of thousands of croatons who fill stadiums watching the ustasha thompson.Maybe when the catholic church and all those that aided and abetted the ustashe movement apologize for the millions of slaughtered men women and chidren of Serbian nationality,then that could in my eyes start a path to civility amongst Serbians and croatons.Untill then Serbia never forgive and never forget!!!!God bless Serbia.

sj

pre 14 godina

(H, 14 January 2010 23:42)

The problem is Serbs can do without any of you people, Croats, Albanians, Slovenes etc, but you can’t do without Serbs and that’s the difference.
With South stream gas pipeline coming on line, Serbia will be the major distribution centre to the western Balkans i.e Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Albania. Sorry to disappoint but Serbia will have an even bigger say in the Balkans than before. You see the Nabucco project is dead; the grand scheme of building a major gas facility in Croatia is dead in the water as well.

Fredrick

pre 14 godina

Money and full bellies will always beat out Nationalism. Croatia's real estate market has suffered along with every where else in the world. I bet a few of those Croats seeling beach front property wouldn't mind selling to Serbs now.

H

pre 14 godina

It appears to be the case these days, that Croats are less interested in what Serbs have to say. The period of Serb predominance in the Balkans had plunged the region back into the Dark Ages. As a nation, Serbia must now revert back to its familiar position as a minor actor in regional affairs. Besides, the Croats trust Albanians more.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

On the surface the new president seem to genuenly want to improve relations with Serbia which is a huge step forward from Mesic.

This is beneficial to both countries. It does not mean that crimes should be swept under the carpent now and forgotten because we will never achieve any respect for each other this way. Victims need justice and deserve justice.

If both countries are sincere in admitting the crimes committed and show genuine remorse it will go a long way towards mutual respect.

Also it will open the eyes of many who are under the impression that crimes were not committed by their own.

Truth

pre 14 godina

Croatia’s newly elected President Ivo Josipovic regards Albania and Kosovo as partners Croatia has very good relations with. We have friendship, common history and common sea and we are geographically close, the Croatian head of state adds.He expects excellent cooperation between Croatia and Albania.
We have many open issues with Serbia, while with Kosovo we have no unsolved issues.

iko

pre 14 godina

The Ustashe were fascists and their attitude to others who did not conform to their view of ethnic and ideological purity is considered rightfully obscene. No one 's father or son or daughter or mother deserves to end their life in a mass grave or be relegated as a second class citizen in their own country. Humanity expects better. On another but related note, Serbia has much to do to show that it can contribute something positive to the development of the region. They have much to to do to compensate for the justifiable mistrust and suspicion of their policies. Yugoslavia collapsed partially due to the fact that no one else could live with their blatant manipulation of the military, economy and politics of Yugoslavia. WE all hope that a dawn to a new era is approaching and that 'brotherhood and unity' is no longer seen as a an empty Titoist maxim.

ron

pre 14 godina

Peggy,
This is how we should be discussing and look forward to improving relations between people in teh Balkan regardless of their ethnic background. I hope you will continue in this positive tone in all your future comments including "Kosovo issue".