Minister for Kosovo Goran Bogdanović says he will not stop visiting Serbs in the province regardless of <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=01&dd=13&nav_id=64445" class="text-link" target= "_blank">yesterday’s incident</a> near Štrpce.
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
(KOSOVARi, 14 January 2010 23:18)
Never gonna happen. Born here and lives here. What part of that don't you get?
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010 12:29)
Daniel you are right, but this is not all that interesting. 22 EU countries have recognized Kosovo but none of their ambasadors have been kicked out by Serbian government, but when Montenegro and Macedonia recognized their ambasadors have been kicked out of Serbia.
This is a bit off topic, but relevant.
I was talking to an authentic Slobodan Milosevic lover in my home town of Chicago. For the first time I finally found one of these elusive, almost mythic people.
I was excited, so naturally I had to ask the obvious question: "why did you support Milosevic?" The response: "because I'm a Serb."
I suddenly felt a sharp stabbing pain in my frontal lobe; it was the unmistakable feeling you get when you walk away from a 30 minute conversation with a yammering co-worker--the feeling you get when you know that you just got dumber. Because "I'm a Serb." What the hell does that mean? So just because you're a Serb you're supposed to support whichever maniac your people selects as your leader? Why can't people disassociate themselves from their blind allegiance and make decisions based on right and wrong and whats in the best interest of the people? If you're going to justify your choice of a moron as your leader with a blanket statement like "I'm a Serb," why not be consistent and stand behind all of the failed policies and atrocities he brought upon mulitple ethnicities and religions? I'm tired of people defending Milosevic. He's a moron. Period. What difference does it make if he is a Serb, or Catholic for that matter? Just because you're Serbian and Catholic doesn't mean that you're suddenly void of making wrong choices and decisions. It doesn't make you impervious to mistakes. Point being, its time to reevaluate what you thought was right and noble. Its ok to be wrong.
Note: before you write hate mail about what I've written, let me know if you're a Milosevic fan in the title of your comment so I can ignore your opinions more conveniently. Thanks.
Bogdanovic said he came to “learn about the problems they face, and how to reconcile different opinions present in that community.” THank you for your effort Bogdanovic, we have now enough people who can look after themselves and we do not need Serbia to take care of our internal problems. I am sure Serbia has enough of their owns and you are the last person to worry about us. You should have been there when Serbian machinery massacred thousands of Albanians, not now. You are there just to incite violence among us, let us deal with our own problems and never show up to bring more hatred... enough of ur propaganda
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
Hatred is mutual. Albanian hatred is much much bigger. Serbs could only live in ghettos and stick to each other in Kosovo if they want to survive.
That's the reallity.
are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
Aaaach, no wounder why nothing was done then...
Pristina has time to time to feed the public with an illusion of some power, worth to make a cartoon out of it, would be surely a best seller!
Bogdanovic cannot undermine your soveriegnty since you do not have it, you are not a member of the UN, hence there is no treason and therefore your actions are illegal. Thats actually pretty concrete so you should rethink your quotes before you claim soveriegnty, there is a profound difference between a UDI and a soveriegn state. soveriegnty has to be earned, what you have is merely a by-product of American imperialism. It was "convinient" for the US to create "kosova", nothing more.
The EU has firmly said that what he was trying to do is not acceptable. Sure enough Albanians wouldn't like him to go and use the same language Milosevic or Tito used for Kosovo being Serbia and other alike political messages.
It seems like the old way of doing things is just not working anymore. Instead of struggling to keep that alive rather focus on finding new ways in doing things.
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
(Ljokimalija, 14 January 2010 20:17)
ok Tabalija,
I got some good news for you. UNMIK office in northern Mitro will close shop very soon. Mark my word on this one.
>I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova.
(Kosova-USA, 1
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
(Ron, 14 January 2010 17:37)
Don't you ever get tired of this UNMIK thing, man? I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
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Umm, so you mean they are just carrying on with what they have always been doing.
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
(Njoni, 14 January 2010 15:23)
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
Well if Mr. Bogdanovic insists on repeating his petty, provacative actions and breaking the clear limits set forth by the government of Kosova regarding politically oriented speech, he will be met by the same professional KPS escort every time. No room for gray areas here.
Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
(Vuk, 14 January 2010 14:23)
Vul, I believe you are aware of the concept of "treason" when a person actively undermines his country's sovereignty? If Bogdanovic wants to run for office in Kosova he's more than welcome to but as Serbia's "Minster for Kosova" (you can't get a more ridiculous post than that) he is conducting treasonous activities and undermining our sovereignty.
I sure hope KPS will be a little more assertive the next Bogi visits Kosova in his official power.
He is an illegal minister anyway. The fact that his institution is called "Ministry for K i M" is like having KGB going to USA in an official visit meeting with local Russian minority there to discuss issues that matter to them.
The way that Bogdanovic has acted this time is very embarrasing and two faced. He used his Kosovar (UNMIK) documents and Kosovar numberplates on his car to sneak into South Kosova and spread his political ideas and messages from Belgrade. After being caught and thrown out he makes childish statements that people are not free to move throughout Kosova etc. Tell me Mr Minister which Kosovan citizen of serbian decent was asked to leave Kosova after the independence, I'll tell you NONE. As a minister of another country ask for permission to enter ones country otherwise if we catch you next time skeaking in like kukavica we'll slap your hand and then ask you to leave, so to speak.
"Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
(Kosova-USA,"
Like Switzerland between the USA and Iran :)
THis ministers relavence will deminish just like Vuk's
Both travel a lot and only do harm to their couse. But then again what alternative do they have
lol "Minister for Kosovo"
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
Not entirely true. He did submitt a request to ICO and EULEX, and then these two handed over the same rquest to Kosova govermant.Mr. Tadic asked to visit Decani Monastery and Osejane. Kosova govermant approved the visit on religous grounds only for Monastery. Osejane visit was denied.
Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
I think its time for Serbian MUP to go back to Kosovo and show the bandits in Pristina how to run things the proper way. The so called albanian police is so unsure of their failed project of independence that they harrass civilians now more than ever.
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
(raso, 14 January 2010 13:33)
Because they have any power in North :D Here is Serbia!!
Its astonishing that Serbian citizens are willing to allow their Government to continuously boycott every attempt the international community is trying to make to achieve some level of reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
From a humanitarian point of view, its even more astonishing that no one (or very few) in Serbia care about the humanitarian consequences that the Serbian boycott of Kosovo is having for the citizens of Kosovo. I do understand that the Serbian strategy here is to exhaust the Kosovar Albanians and to isolate them until they are hungry and tired and just want to have a better life and will be willing to accept anything to get it (even Serbian sovereignty).
That Serbs are willing and even happy to cause this level of (economic) suffering on their fellow human beings proves that they have learned nothing at all from the wars of the 90’s. Personally I would not support any cause that causes any suffering or hardship to my fellow man, even if he happens to be a Serb, its just wrong. Suffering caused by individuals and extreme groups of individuals are one thing, but an organized state attempt (such as the Serbian Government’s) to make life hell for millions of people is something the CIVILISED Serbian people should not allow.
Demi,
Im confused, I presume that you are in support of the independant "Kosova" right? We can agree on that. However I fail to understand why Bogdanovic would be prohibited from being Kosovo? He has not broken any laws and is in fact a private citizen in Kosovo, therefore he should be treated as one? Is it not in your interests as a new nation to demonstrate tolerance and equality for all it's citizens regardless of ministirial positions held in "other countries". It seems contradiction of your interests to throw him out. Surely this demonstrates that who is in power in Kosovo lacks common sense and I think not even the numerous criminals which reside in "kosova" are treated in a similar manner?
Does this help your cause? Does this demonstrate true democratic principles? Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
This proves why "kosova" can never be a country; it does not have the founding principles, it is the wild west with collections of foreigners who occupy the land to make sure Albanians do not demonstrate further primitive actions that might actually justify a global response. All the while these foreign occupiers fulfill their task of influence over the region from their military bases.
I for one would be more careful with your comments Demi as you are supporting the stance that Kosovo should not be a country.
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
How can someone answer a question that is pure fantasy?
Even Serbian officials don't claim that all Tadic has to do is pick up the phone and say I'm coming over.
Demi
"Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend."
"We will see what happend".
It does sound like a threat doesnt it? Yes here looking at this comment and the support it shall most likely recieve from Albanian posters shows us why Albanians seek to live in ethnically pure countries with only Albanians, nobody else would accept to live in a country with these sort of morals. This sort of attitude is unacceptable by any standard!
Mr. Tadic, should as another person living on this planet have the right to enter Kosovo, he is not banned by any law that has been passed in your courts or any other court, he is not a wanted criminal, he is infact the president of Kosovo and Metohija by INTERNATIONAL LAW, regardless of the situation on the ground.
So why would he be removed as he tries to visit what is left of Serbian history in our southern province?
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
bogi obviously didn´t get the message, as he wants to continue to inform the illegal unisex-mission, the stringholders of the albanian puppets in fantasy-uniforms ...
Speaking after the incident, Bogdanović noted that he “did not even travel in an official vehicle, but used a private car with Kosovo license plates, and carried personal documents issued by UNMIK that are valid in Kosovo”.
Ok i just feel bad for the guy driving with kosovo/a plate. well maybe he should run for some kind rep for serbs in kosovo of course through kosovo institutions but being on the car with kosovo plate its a start.
Simple Mind: "But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order!"
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010, 12:29)
Daniel it was not a matter of confrontation. Tadic was let in to visit the church and thats the only thing he did. It is a human right to visit religous buildings and Kosovar authoritys coulden't brooke that human rights law. Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend. Simply last time tadic used the ''religous free card'' to enter Kosovo.
As for Bogdanovic now you know who is in charge in Kosovo. You can apply to Eulex or ''Unmik'' how much you want but it wont help. Someone else is in charge in Kosovo and I know you feelt who it was yesterday. God luck next time :)
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
Play nice Serbian Authorities. If you want to visit Kosova privately then you can visit it any time you want. But if you want to visit Kosova officially then you have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order. Otherwise you will be banned indefinitely from visiting Kosova.
As for you Bogdanovic you are Kosovar and if you act as a private person then you are most welcome and free to go anywhere you like. But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order! Get used to it mate.
Play nice Serbian Authorities. If you want to visit Kosova privately then you can visit it any time you want. But if you want to visit Kosova officially then you have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order. Otherwise you will be banned indefinitely from visiting Kosova.
As for you Bogdanovic you are Kosovar and if you act as a private person then you are most welcome and free to go anywhere you like. But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order! Get used to it mate.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
Simple Mind: "But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order!"
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
bogi obviously didn´t get the message, as he wants to continue to inform the illegal unisex-mission, the stringholders of the albanian puppets in fantasy-uniforms ...
Demi
"Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend."
"We will see what happend".
It does sound like a threat doesnt it? Yes here looking at this comment and the support it shall most likely recieve from Albanian posters shows us why Albanians seek to live in ethnically pure countries with only Albanians, nobody else would accept to live in a country with these sort of morals. This sort of attitude is unacceptable by any standard!
Mr. Tadic, should as another person living on this planet have the right to enter Kosovo, he is not banned by any law that has been passed in your courts or any other court, he is not a wanted criminal, he is infact the president of Kosovo and Metohija by INTERNATIONAL LAW, regardless of the situation on the ground.
So why would he be removed as he tries to visit what is left of Serbian history in our southern province?
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
(raso, 14 January 2010 13:33)
Because they have any power in North :D Here is Serbia!!
Its astonishing that Serbian citizens are willing to allow their Government to continuously boycott every attempt the international community is trying to make to achieve some level of reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
From a humanitarian point of view, its even more astonishing that no one (or very few) in Serbia care about the humanitarian consequences that the Serbian boycott of Kosovo is having for the citizens of Kosovo. I do understand that the Serbian strategy here is to exhaust the Kosovar Albanians and to isolate them until they are hungry and tired and just want to have a better life and will be willing to accept anything to get it (even Serbian sovereignty).
That Serbs are willing and even happy to cause this level of (economic) suffering on their fellow human beings proves that they have learned nothing at all from the wars of the 90’s. Personally I would not support any cause that causes any suffering or hardship to my fellow man, even if he happens to be a Serb, its just wrong. Suffering caused by individuals and extreme groups of individuals are one thing, but an organized state attempt (such as the Serbian Government’s) to make life hell for millions of people is something the CIVILISED Serbian people should not allow.
I think its time for Serbian MUP to go back to Kosovo and show the bandits in Pristina how to run things the proper way. The so called albanian police is so unsure of their failed project of independence that they harrass civilians now more than ever.
He is an illegal minister anyway. The fact that his institution is called "Ministry for K i M" is like having KGB going to USA in an official visit meeting with local Russian minority there to discuss issues that matter to them.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010, 12:29)
Daniel it was not a matter of confrontation. Tadic was let in to visit the church and thats the only thing he did. It is a human right to visit religous buildings and Kosovar authoritys coulden't brooke that human rights law. Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend. Simply last time tadic used the ''religous free card'' to enter Kosovo.
As for Bogdanovic now you know who is in charge in Kosovo. You can apply to Eulex or ''Unmik'' how much you want but it wont help. Someone else is in charge in Kosovo and I know you feelt who it was yesterday. God luck next time :)
Demi,
Im confused, I presume that you are in support of the independant "Kosova" right? We can agree on that. However I fail to understand why Bogdanovic would be prohibited from being Kosovo? He has not broken any laws and is in fact a private citizen in Kosovo, therefore he should be treated as one? Is it not in your interests as a new nation to demonstrate tolerance and equality for all it's citizens regardless of ministirial positions held in "other countries". It seems contradiction of your interests to throw him out. Surely this demonstrates that who is in power in Kosovo lacks common sense and I think not even the numerous criminals which reside in "kosova" are treated in a similar manner?
Does this help your cause? Does this demonstrate true democratic principles? Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
This proves why "kosova" can never be a country; it does not have the founding principles, it is the wild west with collections of foreigners who occupy the land to make sure Albanians do not demonstrate further primitive actions that might actually justify a global response. All the while these foreign occupiers fulfill their task of influence over the region from their military bases.
I for one would be more careful with your comments Demi as you are supporting the stance that Kosovo should not be a country.
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
Not entirely true. He did submitt a request to ICO and EULEX, and then these two handed over the same rquest to Kosova govermant.Mr. Tadic asked to visit Decani Monastery and Osejane. Kosova govermant approved the visit on religous grounds only for Monastery. Osejane visit was denied.
Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
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Umm, so you mean they are just carrying on with what they have always been doing.
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
(Njoni, 14 January 2010 15:23)
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
(Ron, 14 January 2010 17:37)
Don't you ever get tired of this UNMIK thing, man? I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
(Vuk, 14 January 2010 14:23)
Vul, I believe you are aware of the concept of "treason" when a person actively undermines his country's sovereignty? If Bogdanovic wants to run for office in Kosova he's more than welcome to but as Serbia's "Minster for Kosova" (you can't get a more ridiculous post than that) he is conducting treasonous activities and undermining our sovereignty.
I sure hope KPS will be a little more assertive the next Bogi visits Kosova in his official power.
The way that Bogdanovic has acted this time is very embarrasing and two faced. He used his Kosovar (UNMIK) documents and Kosovar numberplates on his car to sneak into South Kosova and spread his political ideas and messages from Belgrade. After being caught and thrown out he makes childish statements that people are not free to move throughout Kosova etc. Tell me Mr Minister which Kosovan citizen of serbian decent was asked to leave Kosova after the independence, I'll tell you NONE. As a minister of another country ask for permission to enter ones country otherwise if we catch you next time skeaking in like kukavica we'll slap your hand and then ask you to leave, so to speak.
Speaking after the incident, Bogdanović noted that he “did not even travel in an official vehicle, but used a private car with Kosovo license plates, and carried personal documents issued by UNMIK that are valid in Kosovo”.
Ok i just feel bad for the guy driving with kosovo/a plate. well maybe he should run for some kind rep for serbs in kosovo of course through kosovo institutions but being on the car with kosovo plate its a start.
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
How can someone answer a question that is pure fantasy?
Even Serbian officials don't claim that all Tadic has to do is pick up the phone and say I'm coming over.
Well if Mr. Bogdanovic insists on repeating his petty, provacative actions and breaking the clear limits set forth by the government of Kosova regarding politically oriented speech, he will be met by the same professional KPS escort every time. No room for gray areas here.
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
(Ljokimalija, 14 January 2010 20:17)
ok Tabalija,
I got some good news for you. UNMIK office in northern Mitro will close shop very soon. Mark my word on this one.
>I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova.
(Kosova-USA, 1
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
"Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
(Kosova-USA,"
Like Switzerland between the USA and Iran :)
THis ministers relavence will deminish just like Vuk's
Both travel a lot and only do harm to their couse. But then again what alternative do they have
lol "Minister for Kosovo"
Bogdanovic cannot undermine your soveriegnty since you do not have it, you are not a member of the UN, hence there is no treason and therefore your actions are illegal. Thats actually pretty concrete so you should rethink your quotes before you claim soveriegnty, there is a profound difference between a UDI and a soveriegn state. soveriegnty has to be earned, what you have is merely a by-product of American imperialism. It was "convinient" for the US to create "kosova", nothing more.
Bogdanovic said he came to “learn about the problems they face, and how to reconcile different opinions present in that community.” THank you for your effort Bogdanovic, we have now enough people who can look after themselves and we do not need Serbia to take care of our internal problems. I am sure Serbia has enough of their owns and you are the last person to worry about us. You should have been there when Serbian machinery massacred thousands of Albanians, not now. You are there just to incite violence among us, let us deal with our own problems and never show up to bring more hatred... enough of ur propaganda
This is a bit off topic, but relevant.
I was talking to an authentic Slobodan Milosevic lover in my home town of Chicago. For the first time I finally found one of these elusive, almost mythic people.
I was excited, so naturally I had to ask the obvious question: "why did you support Milosevic?" The response: "because I'm a Serb."
I suddenly felt a sharp stabbing pain in my frontal lobe; it was the unmistakable feeling you get when you walk away from a 30 minute conversation with a yammering co-worker--the feeling you get when you know that you just got dumber. Because "I'm a Serb." What the hell does that mean? So just because you're a Serb you're supposed to support whichever maniac your people selects as your leader? Why can't people disassociate themselves from their blind allegiance and make decisions based on right and wrong and whats in the best interest of the people? If you're going to justify your choice of a moron as your leader with a blanket statement like "I'm a Serb," why not be consistent and stand behind all of the failed policies and atrocities he brought upon mulitple ethnicities and religions? I'm tired of people defending Milosevic. He's a moron. Period. What difference does it make if he is a Serb, or Catholic for that matter? Just because you're Serbian and Catholic doesn't mean that you're suddenly void of making wrong choices and decisions. It doesn't make you impervious to mistakes. Point being, its time to reevaluate what you thought was right and noble. Its ok to be wrong.
Note: before you write hate mail about what I've written, let me know if you're a Milosevic fan in the title of your comment so I can ignore your opinions more conveniently. Thanks.
are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
Aaaach, no wounder why nothing was done then...
Pristina has time to time to feed the public with an illusion of some power, worth to make a cartoon out of it, would be surely a best seller!
Hatred is mutual. Albanian hatred is much much bigger. Serbs could only live in ghettos and stick to each other in Kosovo if they want to survive.
That's the reallity.
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010 12:29)
Daniel you are right, but this is not all that interesting. 22 EU countries have recognized Kosovo but none of their ambasadors have been kicked out by Serbian government, but when Montenegro and Macedonia recognized their ambasadors have been kicked out of Serbia.
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
(KOSOVARi, 14 January 2010 23:18)
Never gonna happen. Born here and lives here. What part of that don't you get?
The EU has firmly said that what he was trying to do is not acceptable. Sure enough Albanians wouldn't like him to go and use the same language Milosevic or Tito used for Kosovo being Serbia and other alike political messages.
It seems like the old way of doing things is just not working anymore. Instead of struggling to keep that alive rather focus on finding new ways in doing things.
Play nice Serbian Authorities. If you want to visit Kosova privately then you can visit it any time you want. But if you want to visit Kosova officially then you have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order. Otherwise you will be banned indefinitely from visiting Kosova.
As for you Bogdanovic you are Kosovar and if you act as a private person then you are most welcome and free to go anywhere you like. But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order! Get used to it mate.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010, 12:29)
Daniel it was not a matter of confrontation. Tadic was let in to visit the church and thats the only thing he did. It is a human right to visit religous buildings and Kosovar authoritys coulden't brooke that human rights law. Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend. Simply last time tadic used the ''religous free card'' to enter Kosovo.
As for Bogdanovic now you know who is in charge in Kosovo. You can apply to Eulex or ''Unmik'' how much you want but it wont help. Someone else is in charge in Kosovo and I know you feelt who it was yesterday. God luck next time :)
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
Not entirely true. He did submitt a request to ICO and EULEX, and then these two handed over the same rquest to Kosova govermant.Mr. Tadic asked to visit Decani Monastery and Osejane. Kosova govermant approved the visit on religous grounds only for Monastery. Osejane visit was denied.
Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
I think its time for Serbian MUP to go back to Kosovo and show the bandits in Pristina how to run things the proper way. The so called albanian police is so unsure of their failed project of independence that they harrass civilians now more than ever.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
Speaking after the incident, Bogdanović noted that he “did not even travel in an official vehicle, but used a private car with Kosovo license plates, and carried personal documents issued by UNMIK that are valid in Kosovo”.
Ok i just feel bad for the guy driving with kosovo/a plate. well maybe he should run for some kind rep for serbs in kosovo of course through kosovo institutions but being on the car with kosovo plate its a start.
Simple Mind: "But as Serbian Minister you as well have to ask for permission from Kosova’s authorities, respect visiting procedures and respect Kosova’s constitutional order!"
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
Its astonishing that Serbian citizens are willing to allow their Government to continuously boycott every attempt the international community is trying to make to achieve some level of reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo.
From a humanitarian point of view, its even more astonishing that no one (or very few) in Serbia care about the humanitarian consequences that the Serbian boycott of Kosovo is having for the citizens of Kosovo. I do understand that the Serbian strategy here is to exhaust the Kosovar Albanians and to isolate them until they are hungry and tired and just want to have a better life and will be willing to accept anything to get it (even Serbian sovereignty).
That Serbs are willing and even happy to cause this level of (economic) suffering on their fellow human beings proves that they have learned nothing at all from the wars of the 90’s. Personally I would not support any cause that causes any suffering or hardship to my fellow man, even if he happens to be a Serb, its just wrong. Suffering caused by individuals and extreme groups of individuals are one thing, but an organized state attempt (such as the Serbian Government’s) to make life hell for millions of people is something the CIVILISED Serbian people should not allow.
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
(Ron, 14 January 2010 17:37)
Don't you ever get tired of this UNMIK thing, man? I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
Really? Then why did Tadic visit with only the obligatory courtesy call to the UN and EULEX?
As Daniel said, it's far easier to make your point against one individual - that's cowardice and bullying, not official 'procedure'.
Kosovo is being run by the internationals and it is they who decide which bone to throw to massage the egos of the provincial authorities.
(kate, 14 January 2010 13:09)
How can someone answer a question that is pure fantasy?
Even Serbian officials don't claim that all Tadic has to do is pick up the phone and say I'm coming over.
Well if Mr. Bogdanovic insists on repeating his petty, provacative actions and breaking the clear limits set forth by the government of Kosova regarding politically oriented speech, he will be met by the same professional KPS escort every time. No room for gray areas here.
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
bogi obviously didn´t get the message, as he wants to continue to inform the illegal unisex-mission, the stringholders of the albanian puppets in fantasy-uniforms ...
why didn´t albanian and western cowards arrest him in leposavic ???
(raso, 14 January 2010 13:33)
Because they have any power in North :D Here is Serbia!!
The way that Bogdanovic has acted this time is very embarrasing and two faced. He used his Kosovar (UNMIK) documents and Kosovar numberplates on his car to sneak into South Kosova and spread his political ideas and messages from Belgrade. After being caught and thrown out he makes childish statements that people are not free to move throughout Kosova etc. Tell me Mr Minister which Kosovan citizen of serbian decent was asked to leave Kosova after the independence, I'll tell you NONE. As a minister of another country ask for permission to enter ones country otherwise if we catch you next time skeaking in like kukavica we'll slap your hand and then ask you to leave, so to speak.
Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
(Vuk, 14 January 2010 14:23)
Vul, I believe you are aware of the concept of "treason" when a person actively undermines his country's sovereignty? If Bogdanovic wants to run for office in Kosova he's more than welcome to but as Serbia's "Minster for Kosova" (you can't get a more ridiculous post than that) he is conducting treasonous activities and undermining our sovereignty.
I sure hope KPS will be a little more assertive the next Bogi visits Kosova in his official power.
He is an illegal minister anyway. The fact that his institution is called "Ministry for K i M" is like having KGB going to USA in an official visit meeting with local Russian minority there to discuss issues that matter to them.
Demi
"Let Tadic try to visit some other place in Kosovo wich has nothing to do with religion and you will see what will happend."
"We will see what happend".
It does sound like a threat doesnt it? Yes here looking at this comment and the support it shall most likely recieve from Albanian posters shows us why Albanians seek to live in ethnically pure countries with only Albanians, nobody else would accept to live in a country with these sort of morals. This sort of attitude is unacceptable by any standard!
Mr. Tadic, should as another person living on this planet have the right to enter Kosovo, he is not banned by any law that has been passed in your courts or any other court, he is not a wanted criminal, he is infact the president of Kosovo and Metohija by INTERNATIONAL LAW, regardless of the situation on the ground.
So why would he be removed as he tries to visit what is left of Serbian history in our southern province?
He will continue visiting Kosovo and for sure he will be kicked out of Kosovo again if he has no official permission from Kosovo authorities, this is a clear message that you can not enter as an official without no premissions
(Njoni, 14 January 2010 15:23)
Mind that UNMIK is in control of Kosovo. So UNMIK deceides who can enter Kosovo province or not!
"Pretty much, ICO and EULEX acted only as a post man delivering the mail to K-Govermant.
(Kosova-USA,"
Like Switzerland between the USA and Iran :)
THis ministers relavence will deminish just like Vuk's
Both travel a lot and only do harm to their couse. But then again what alternative do they have
lol "Minister for Kosovo"
Demi,
Im confused, I presume that you are in support of the independant "Kosova" right? We can agree on that. However I fail to understand why Bogdanovic would be prohibited from being Kosovo? He has not broken any laws and is in fact a private citizen in Kosovo, therefore he should be treated as one? Is it not in your interests as a new nation to demonstrate tolerance and equality for all it's citizens regardless of ministirial positions held in "other countries". It seems contradiction of your interests to throw him out. Surely this demonstrates that who is in power in Kosovo lacks common sense and I think not even the numerous criminals which reside in "kosova" are treated in a similar manner?
Does this help your cause? Does this demonstrate true democratic principles? Is this acceptable in any other country especially western countries where even politians who are rascists are tolerated due to the democratic principles of "freedom of speach"? Does your vocal support of these actions demonstrate to the world also the actual situation on the ground that Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija approve of such things?
This proves why "kosova" can never be a country; it does not have the founding principles, it is the wild west with collections of foreigners who occupy the land to make sure Albanians do not demonstrate further primitive actions that might actually justify a global response. All the while these foreign occupiers fulfill their task of influence over the region from their military bases.
I for one would be more careful with your comments Demi as you are supporting the stance that Kosovo should not be a country.
>I worked for UNMIK for 6 years(three missions), and beleive me we are gone and out of Kosova.
(Kosova-USA, 1
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
are gone and out of Kosova. Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
Aaaach, no wounder why nothing was done then...
Pristina has time to time to feed the public with an illusion of some power, worth to make a cartoon out of it, would be surely a best seller!
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
Just a handfull of do nothing people are still in Kosova and getting paid for doing absolutaly nothing.
(Kosova-USA, 14 January 2010 18:04)
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Umm, so you mean they are just carrying on with what they have always been doing.
Bogdanovic cannot undermine your soveriegnty since you do not have it, you are not a member of the UN, hence there is no treason and therefore your actions are illegal. Thats actually pretty concrete so you should rethink your quotes before you claim soveriegnty, there is a profound difference between a UDI and a soveriegn state. soveriegnty has to be earned, what you have is merely a by-product of American imperialism. It was "convinient" for the US to create "kosova", nothing more.
Just because you got sacked dont mean they're gone. For example. When your girlfriend dumps you do you think 10 years later she's still same pretty pink cheek unibrow? Time and stuff doesnt stop just cos you're not there. Things change, people move around.. doesn't mean they disappear.
For example, I used to be your Tabalija, now I'm your.....
(Ljokimalija, 14 January 2010 20:17)
ok Tabalija,
I got some good news for you. UNMIK office in northern Mitro will close shop very soon. Mark my word on this one.
The EU has firmly said that what he was trying to do is not acceptable. Sure enough Albanians wouldn't like him to go and use the same language Milosevic or Tito used for Kosovo being Serbia and other alike political messages.
It seems like the old way of doing things is just not working anymore. Instead of struggling to keep that alive rather focus on finding new ways in doing things.
Bogdanovic said he came to “learn about the problems they face, and how to reconcile different opinions present in that community.” THank you for your effort Bogdanovic, we have now enough people who can look after themselves and we do not need Serbia to take care of our internal problems. I am sure Serbia has enough of their owns and you are the last person to worry about us. You should have been there when Serbian machinery massacred thousands of Albanians, not now. You are there just to incite violence among us, let us deal with our own problems and never show up to bring more hatred... enough of ur propaganda
This is a bit off topic, but relevant.
I was talking to an authentic Slobodan Milosevic lover in my home town of Chicago. For the first time I finally found one of these elusive, almost mythic people.
I was excited, so naturally I had to ask the obvious question: "why did you support Milosevic?" The response: "because I'm a Serb."
I suddenly felt a sharp stabbing pain in my frontal lobe; it was the unmistakable feeling you get when you walk away from a 30 minute conversation with a yammering co-worker--the feeling you get when you know that you just got dumber. Because "I'm a Serb." What the hell does that mean? So just because you're a Serb you're supposed to support whichever maniac your people selects as your leader? Why can't people disassociate themselves from their blind allegiance and make decisions based on right and wrong and whats in the best interest of the people? If you're going to justify your choice of a moron as your leader with a blanket statement like "I'm a Serb," why not be consistent and stand behind all of the failed policies and atrocities he brought upon mulitple ethnicities and religions? I'm tired of people defending Milosevic. He's a moron. Period. What difference does it make if he is a Serb, or Catholic for that matter? Just because you're Serbian and Catholic doesn't mean that you're suddenly void of making wrong choices and decisions. It doesn't make you impervious to mistakes. Point being, its time to reevaluate what you thought was right and noble. Its ok to be wrong.
Note: before you write hate mail about what I've written, let me know if you're a Milosevic fan in the title of your comment so I can ignore your opinions more conveniently. Thanks.
Maybe Government of Kosovo will make him PERSONA NON GRATA under any representation (private, religious, business, or government) and he won't be allowed in, PERIOD.
(KOSOVARi, 14 January 2010 23:18)
Never gonna happen. Born here and lives here. What part of that don't you get?
Hatred is mutual. Albanian hatred is much much bigger. Serbs could only live in ghettos and stick to each other in Kosovo if they want to survive.
That's the reallity.
It's funny how Kosovo's Albanians go after Bodanovic but were afraid to go after Tadic. It's easy to a single defenseless individual, isn't it. I guess that's how they like to do it, many against one, instead of one on one like real men do. It says something about their characters. Then again, we already knew that.
(Daniel, 14 January 2010 12:29)
Daniel you are right, but this is not all that interesting. 22 EU countries have recognized Kosovo but none of their ambasadors have been kicked out by Serbian government, but when Montenegro and Macedonia recognized their ambasadors have been kicked out of Serbia.
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