Two resolutions on war crimes planned

This is the only real way forward and it's good to see Serbia taking the lead. Unless there is honesty and openness about the events in Yugoslavia of 1991 - 1995, then it will remain a cloud over the region.

The onus will then be on the Croats and Muslims to come out with their heads held high and make similar resolutions on their crimes. If not, they will be the ones who appear to be in denial and covering up.

This is very positive step forward which hopefully will trigger a long lasting peace in the Balkan.
It is also a unique chance for the other parties that were involved in the war to clean their acts as well!

kosovo-USA - "What ever happened to 1998/99?" It's just too embarrassing for the Albanians to admit to the world that they started the conflict in Kosovo and they brought all their pain upon themselves.

This is the only real way forward and it's good to see Serbia taking the lead. Unless there is honesty and openness about the events in Yugoslavia of 1991 - 1995, then it will remain a cloud over the region.


What ever happened to 1998/99?

Including Kosovo Albanians in these words of reconciliation would be demeaning for the countries of the former Yugoslavia and belittle what happened there.
(Vuk, 12 January 2010 16:06)

Don't worry about that, it won't happen. Serbia has no guts to admit crimes that were done on Albanians let alone condemn them. The crimes in Kosova will not be mentioned specifically. And if there is no specific Serbia is really not doing anything. Albania for example as far as I know has already passed a resolution condemning crimes in Jugoslavia. Everyone can pass resolutions that are not specific in nature as it doesn't hurt them politically. Admitting or condemning Srebrenica is not a step forward either. Such a resolution is necessary if you want to enter the EU. So that when the time comes you can wave this resolution and claim friendly relations with Bosnia. This is not out of free will but out of self-interest. Srebrenica could have been condemned as soon as those videos surfaced years ago. Yet those same people that today claim that this is only humane, as members of the government and parliament back then didn't even bother commenting. Some even went further to call those videos fakes.

I think Serbia is demonstrating to the world that it is the only country in the world that will take responsibility for it's actions, regardless of the nations which neighbor it which can be said to have commited crimes of equal magnitude. However this "I wont apologise if you dont" mentality is pathetic and if it takes Serbia to be the "bigger man" here and accept these resolutions in order for Croats and Muslims to do like-wise then fair enough. However it is unlikely to happen as it would be a contradiction of policy; Croatia is shortening sentances of child killers. Regardless of Mladic being free these actions are not justified especially considering that all is being done to capture him according to the people in charge.

Including Kosovo Albanians in these words of reconciliation would be demeaning for the countries of the former Yugoslavia and belittle what happened there.

Their go again the self righteous Serbs. The Serbs lost a detrimental amount of good will by their horrendous behaviour through the 90s. The other former Yugo republics and nationalities are weary of the Serbs and very suspicious of them. The Serbs do not try to make amends for the 90s they continue and justifie them ,only white wash with a lot of platitudes that no one takes seriously. Like they say a talk is cheap actions speak loud and clear ,they were and are very clear of Serb intentions. Now it is 2010 Serbs are still trying to destroy and carve out Republic of Bosnia i Herzegovina to form a Greater Serbia. As Serbs followers of Jesus this is what real repentance is. Luk19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
Luk 19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house. Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Pro14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

Johny,
It is not to do with guts here my naive friend since the crimes commited in the former Yugoslavia were about a hundred times worse then the minor scuffles which occured on the territory of Kosovo and Metohija.
Your comment screams bitterness of the possible reconciliation of the former Yugoslav republics. Every act that Serbia does to acknowledge what wrongdoings occured is positive, weather or not they are politically motivated as at the end of the day all acts by a nation are politcally motivated and hence we can discount this factor and merely say that it benefits both nations.
However echos of the past can be heard from our dear philosophical preacher "Lenard" who seems unable to move on with the future despite Serbia's efforts to reconsile. It is actually fairly obvious to anyone who looks at the Balkans in the last centuary that more Serbs have been victims of genocide and crimes against humanity then any other ethnic group. So as far as "not trusting" is concerned I think we are on a level playing field at the very very least.

You will not see similar resolutions passed by Croats and Muslims. They are the darlings of the West. So Serbia, kiss the feet of NATO in thanks for destroying civilian infrastructure and sprinkling your country with cluster bombs and depleted uranium. Maybe if you are submissive enough you may be the "Groom of the Stool" for the EU.

...So that when the time comes you can wave this resolution and claim friendly relations with Bosnia. This is not out of free will but out of self-interest. Srebrenica could have been condemned as soon as those videos surfaced years ago. Yet those same people that today claim that this is only humane, as members of the government and parliament back then didn't even bother commenting. Some even went further to call those videos fakes.
(johny, 12 January 2010 17:45)

yes, johny, sadly i agree with you. it has become a game, but i, for one, ain't playing.

also thanks for your comments from yesterday (that was you, yes?) much appreciated.

roberto frisco

This is very positive step forward which hopefully will trigger a long lasting peace in the Balkan.
It is also a unique chance for the other parties that were involved in the war to clean their acts as well!
(The Swiss, 12 January 2010 11:53)

I agree with you totally. Serbia should admit their wrongdoing as it is the only decent thing to do, but one thing worries me.

Seeing how nobody elese is going to do the same and nobody is going to force them to, isn't Serbia going to go down in history as the ONLY agressor during this time?

What will be recorded is Serbia's admission and an apology but since we won't have the same from the other sides we run the risk of being seen as another Germany.

What will be recorded is Serbia's admission and an apology but since we won't have the same from the other sides we run the risk of being seen as another Germany.
(Peggy, 12 January 2010 23:45)

No kidding you'll be seen as another Germany since you were the only aggressor in the Balkan wars of the 90's.

For those that have the audacity to ask the Bosniaks of all people and the Croats to a lesser degree to apologize I'd like to know if would you have asked the Russians and the Americans apologize for the "crimes" they committed against the German people after they invaded their country in 1945. Yeah I didn't think so.

As for an apology to the Albanians do not bother as it wouldn't be sincere to begin with and I coulnd't care less for an apology that you'll use to save face with the world opinion.

This is the only real way forward and it's good to see Serbia taking the lead. Unless there is honesty and openness about the events in Yugoslavia of 1991 - 1995, then it will remain a cloud over the region.


What ever happened to 1998/99?

kosovo-USA - "What ever happened to 1998/99?" It's just too embarrassing for the Albanians to admit to the world that they started the conflict in Kosovo and they brought all their pain upon themselves.

I think Serbia is demonstrating to the world that it is the only country in the world that will take responsibility for it's actions, regardless of the nations which neighbor it which can be said to have commited crimes of equal magnitude. However this "I wont apologise if you dont" mentality is pathetic and if it takes Serbia to be the "bigger man" here and accept these resolutions in order for Croats and Muslims to do like-wise then fair enough. However it is unlikely to happen as it would be a contradiction of policy; Croatia is shortening sentances of child killers. Regardless of Mladic being free these actions are not justified especially considering that all is being done to capture him according to the people in charge.

Including Kosovo Albanians in these words of reconciliation would be demeaning for the countries of the former Yugoslavia and belittle what happened there.

Johny,
It is not to do with guts here my naive friend since the crimes commited in the former Yugoslavia were about a hundred times worse then the minor scuffles which occured on the territory of Kosovo and Metohija.
Your comment screams bitterness of the possible reconciliation of the former Yugoslav republics. Every act that Serbia does to acknowledge what wrongdoings occured is positive, weather or not they are politically motivated as at the end of the day all acts by a nation are politcally motivated and hence we can discount this factor and merely say that it benefits both nations.
However echos of the past can be heard from our dear philosophical preacher "Lenard" who seems unable to move on with the future despite Serbia's efforts to reconsile. It is actually fairly obvious to anyone who looks at the Balkans in the last centuary that more Serbs have been victims of genocide and crimes against humanity then any other ethnic group. So as far as "not trusting" is concerned I think we are on a level playing field at the very very least.

You will not see similar resolutions passed by Croats and Muslims. They are the darlings of the West. So Serbia, kiss the feet of NATO in thanks for destroying civilian infrastructure and sprinkling your country with cluster bombs and depleted uranium. Maybe if you are submissive enough you may be the "Groom of the Stool" for the EU.

This is the only real way forward and it's good to see Serbia taking the lead. Unless there is honesty and openness about the events in Yugoslavia of 1991 - 1995, then it will remain a cloud over the region.

The onus will then be on the Croats and Muslims to come out with their heads held high and make similar resolutions on their crimes. If not, they will be the ones who appear to be in denial and covering up.

Their go again the self righteous Serbs. The Serbs lost a detrimental amount of good will by their horrendous behaviour through the 90s. The other former Yugo republics and nationalities are weary of the Serbs and very suspicious of them. The Serbs do not try to make amends for the 90s they continue and justifie them ,only white wash with a lot of platitudes that no one takes seriously. Like they say a talk is cheap actions speak loud and clear ,they were and are very clear of Serb intentions. Now it is 2010 Serbs are still trying to destroy and carve out Republic of Bosnia i Herzegovina to form a Greater Serbia. As Serbs followers of Jesus this is what real repentance is. Luk19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
Luk 19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house. Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Pro14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

This is very positive step forward which hopefully will trigger a long lasting peace in the Balkan.
It is also a unique chance for the other parties that were involved in the war to clean their acts as well!

Including Kosovo Albanians in these words of reconciliation would be demeaning for the countries of the former Yugoslavia and belittle what happened there.
(Vuk, 12 January 2010 16:06)

Don't worry about that, it won't happen. Serbia has no guts to admit crimes that were done on Albanians let alone condemn them. The crimes in Kosova will not be mentioned specifically. And if there is no specific Serbia is really not doing anything. Albania for example as far as I know has already passed a resolution condemning crimes in Jugoslavia. Everyone can pass resolutions that are not specific in nature as it doesn't hurt them politically. Admitting or condemning Srebrenica is not a step forward either. Such a resolution is necessary if you want to enter the EU. So that when the time comes you can wave this resolution and claim friendly relations with Bosnia. This is not out of free will but out of self-interest. Srebrenica could have been condemned as soon as those videos surfaced years ago. Yet those same people that today claim that this is only humane, as members of the government and parliament back then didn't even bother commenting. Some even went further to call those videos fakes.

This is very positive step forward which hopefully will trigger a long lasting peace in the Balkan.
It is also a unique chance for the other parties that were involved in the war to clean their acts as well!
(The Swiss, 12 January 2010 11:53)

I agree with you totally. Serbia should admit their wrongdoing as it is the only decent thing to do, but one thing worries me.

Seeing how nobody elese is going to do the same and nobody is going to force them to, isn't Serbia going to go down in history as the ONLY agressor during this time?

What will be recorded is Serbia's admission and an apology but since we won't have the same from the other sides we run the risk of being seen as another Germany.

...So that when the time comes you can wave this resolution and claim friendly relations with Bosnia. This is not out of free will but out of self-interest. Srebrenica could have been condemned as soon as those videos surfaced years ago. Yet those same people that today claim that this is only humane, as members of the government and parliament back then didn't even bother commenting. Some even went further to call those videos fakes.
(johny, 12 January 2010 17:45)

yes, johny, sadly i agree with you. it has become a game, but i, for one, ain't playing.

also thanks for your comments from yesterday (that was you, yes?) much appreciated.

roberto frisco

What will be recorded is Serbia's admission and an apology but since we won't have the same from the other sides we run the risk of being seen as another Germany.
(Peggy, 12 January 2010 23:45)

No kidding you'll be seen as another Germany since you were the only aggressor in the Balkan wars of the 90's.

For those that have the audacity to ask the Bosniaks of all people and the Croats to a lesser degree to apologize I'd like to know if would you have asked the Russians and the Americans apologize for the "crimes" they committed against the German people after they invaded their country in 1945. Yeah I didn't think so.

As for an apology to the Albanians do not bother as it wouldn't be sincere to begin with and I coulnd't care less for an apology that you'll use to save face with the world opinion.