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NATO official worried about breach of 1244

The local authorities in northern Kosovo represent a threat to Kosovo stability, Joint Force Command Naples Admiral Mark Fitzgerald said in Priština on Friday.

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Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

With Americans newly stationed in the North this is something to keep in focus. Are the Americans preparing for some new military adventure?

tim

pre 14 godina

Enforcement of law and treaty is now only a matter of "is it convenient". So, the EU and USA do not find it convenient to interfere with Northern Kosovo, nor do they find it convenient to move the K albs out of their stateless limbo. Time is on Serbia's side.

JC

pre 14 godina

Kosovo-USA, what exactly is your point regarding the nationality of Admiral Fitzgerald? That Americans need to blindly follow orders based on nationality? Those of use with real jobs don't have the time to keep track of hundreds of military "top brass".

Fitzgerald should be ashamed of himself with this statement about UN1244. The US has trampled on this document from day 1 and now he wants to invoke it?!?!

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters after meeting with KFOR Commander Marcus Bentler.

exactly.No need for parallel structures because res 1244 states that kosovo is still sovereign territory of Serbia.God bless.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.
(pss, 9 January 2010 14:18)
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No enlighten me. Where exactly does it say that K-Albanians can declare independece and have their own president and PM?

Please point to that section. If there is anywhere in Res 1244 that says that, then I will admit that your government is legitimate.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)
(Jason, 9 January 2010 18:38)

You claim to be smart, so how is possible you don't know your top military brass coming from your own country? Besides, just learn how to do some reaserch in your PC, and you have the information at your finger tips.
here is again the bio of Admiral Mark F.

Milan

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)
Yes - I'm not Admiral Mark Fitzerald. But i'm proud, becouse I'm not american puppet. And North is not US colony or banana republic. Zvečan je Srbija!!

szemi

pre 14 godina

You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Kosova-AIPEC
Look this is so funny when a turk tries to decide who is american and who is not.Remember you turks will never be either european or american and it applies to all turkish tribes.Benjamin Franklin predicted well that your kind will cause big trouble to US.

Jason

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Wow, this was among your most intelligent and clever posts yet! Bravo!

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?
(Jason, 9 January 2010 15:05)

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.
(ben, 9 January 2010 12:00)

Keep dreaming, Ben. You guys could not even get across the Ibar in 2004 - which says tons. You outnumber Serbs 3 to 1 in Mitro yet still cannot manage to do anything more than little hit and run terrorist tactics.

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?

dave uk

pre 14 godina

its funny how NATO worries about UN resolutions when it suits, there was no UN mandate to bomb Serbia to invade Iraq and Afganistan.We are told about Kosovo as a special case? what does that mean? It means if your pro american then you will get backing if you are not then you won't.

1244 outlines this Reaffirming the call in previous resolutions for substantial autonomy and meaningful self-administration for Kosovo, which is not independence.

so the Serbs in the north are not acting illegally, they have set up institutions inline with Serbia which took over the role of the federal republic of Yugoslavia.

For some sort of solution we need to look at the history of Britain and Ireland. Its took along time but there is a sort of peace in the north, you could argue the British had to strike a deal with IRA terrorists/freedom fighters. The Serbs and Albanians will have to do the same at some point.

Reality is the Albanians wont accept Serbian rule and the Serbs wont accept Albanian rule.

the danger is which i am sure NATO doesnt need at the moment is if the Albanians or Serbs form paramilitary groups and start fighting for what each see as there rights.

NATO fears other extremist groups entering Kosovo or Bosnia and i feel this is a main reason for backing Kosovo independence and not allowing Bosnia to break up, its about NATO control.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Three times I posted his(Admiral Mark Fitzerald) Bio, but to no avail. Anybody interested, just google his name and you will find out where he is from.

pss

pre 14 godina

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.

ben

pre 14 godina

Serbia had similar problems in Presheva valley in 1999-2001 and thay got their GO.

Actually Serbia was all the time trying to overtake the positions of UCPMB in Presheva valley with lightly armed forces but it was unsuccessful.

Then in 2000/01 had the GO ahead to employ the heavy weaponry and finally restored her authority in the valley.

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.

Top

pre 14 godina

About which "parallel structures" is the fuzz about? About Serbian? Or about Kosovarian? Aren't they both parallel to the EULEX/UNMIK structures, described in 1244?

Pijetro

pre 14 godina

I agree. Respect 1244 and shout it from the mountain tops for all to hear.

But if history repeats itself, you'll to pick out the parts you don't like, change the rest to your desire, and reneg on an agreement, just like Kumanovo.

What a farce...

Ron

pre 14 godina

why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 23:41)

Wow, Demi, let's substitute some words for some other words:

The only choice Albanians have is be loyal to Serbia and respect Serbian law?

You agree? Because you know, Albanians are just a minority in the state of Serbia!

sj

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

Just make sure you telephone Belgrade when you’re going to do that so that they can cower and shake. This is the US blowing wind, you know the type that makes the Albanians feel good but nothing happens after that because NATO too busy in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Yemen.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.
(the fitzgerald, 8 January 2010 22:08)

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.
(MikeC, 8 January 2010 22:05)


why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Bwaaahaaaahaaaa... Mr Fitzgerald - than first You must arrest mr Thaci, their pseudogovernment and institutions in Priština. From February 17 2008 they are most violated Resolution 1244.

the fitzgerald

pre 14 godina

"MB,
Who in the hell are you?

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.

blue and gold

pre 14 godina

Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.
(Zoran, 8 January 2010 18:05)

‘Legitimate Serbian institutions’ in Kosovo and ‘1244 is still in force’ are conflicting statements.
These ‘legitimate Serbian institutions’ you refer to and their elected representatives were decided upon during elections organized by the government of Serbia which were declared invalid by UNMIK because they were not inline with 1244. Therefore, they are not legitimate but illegal and not in line with 1244. In other words, you cannot pick and accept certain parts of 1244 but at the same time reject and respect the rest of them. You cannot have it both ways.

According to the report of the Secretary-General on the UNMIK, “UNMIK neither hindered nor supported the elections, and declared the results of the local municipal elections invalid. Following these elections, Serbian officials and Kosovo Serb leaders started to establish parallel municipal government structures in accordance with Serbian law.”
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N08/412/84/IMG/N0841284.pdf?OpenElement

Zoran

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)
--
Ron, ethnic Albanians are still running parallel structures but we do tolerate them in our self-rule proposal. NATO are leaving shortly anyway so these confused people will be gone soon enough.

John

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
[...]

(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)

What has this to do with UN Res. 1244? Or are you simply trying to "justify" the actions of the Serbs in the North of Kosovo. Well, then you definitely don't sound like somebody who actually wants to uphold UN Res 1244, otherwise you would condemn the Serbian actions there which clearly violate UN Res. 1244. You actually sound like a Serb...

Mike

pre 14 godina

Look, Sejdiu was crying about this a few days ago so someone in a position to actually do something is going to voice the same concerns. But does anyone really think it's going to change? The international community is more than happy to allow parallel structures to not only continue, but to deepen, as long as doing so keeps Belgrade from actively underming older parallel structures set up by Pristina. All in the name of security and stability.

Pristina, take a look at the internal structure of Bosnia. That's your future.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'
Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!
(Ron, 8 January 2010 18:00)'

Ron, if you look towards the bottom of the (English-language) B92 homepage you'll find a link to all the oral arguments presented at the ICJ public hearing. Most of these are in English, the rest in French. It is a mini-course in the international law pertaining to declarations of independence, the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the requirements of statehood, etc. It makes for fascinating reading, and should provide a sounder basis for questions and comments in the future.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?

What about parallel structures of Taiwan? Part of China, you know!

When NATO will attack Taiwan? Or when NATO will attack China?

pss

pre 14 godina

I pretty sure the local authorities in Pristina are pretty heavily in violation of 1244.
(Matthew, 8 January 2010 17:20)
Actually you could not be more wrong. Officials in Pristina were elected in UNMIK called elections as stated in 1244, the only people allowed to call elections in Kosovo until they handed that authority to the elected officials. The Serbian elections were never by nor endorsed by UNMIK nor EULEX nor Kosovo govt. Serbia has no power for elections in Kosovo under 1244. A very big part of the resolution.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Then act against the Albanians NOW and tell them that THEY are breaching 1244.

This whole Kosovo soap becomes more stupid day by day!

Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

But wait a minute, I'm reading from the k-a posters here nearly everyday that 1244 no longer exists... am getting really confused now!
Twisting in the air...

pss

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 8 January 2010 17:15)
Such a post from those who support only one sentence of a resolution,

Zoran

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters
--
Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.

Demi

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland

Zoran

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters
--
Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

But wait a minute, I'm reading from the k-a posters here nearly everyday that 1244 no longer exists... am getting really confused now!
Twisting in the air...

Ron

pre 14 godina

Then act against the Albanians NOW and tell them that THEY are breaching 1244.

This whole Kosovo soap becomes more stupid day by day!

Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!

pss

pre 14 godina

I pretty sure the local authorities in Pristina are pretty heavily in violation of 1244.
(Matthew, 8 January 2010 17:20)
Actually you could not be more wrong. Officials in Pristina were elected in UNMIK called elections as stated in 1244, the only people allowed to call elections in Kosovo until they handed that authority to the elected officials. The Serbian elections were never by nor endorsed by UNMIK nor EULEX nor Kosovo govt. Serbia has no power for elections in Kosovo under 1244. A very big part of the resolution.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'
Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!
(Ron, 8 January 2010 18:00)'

Ron, if you look towards the bottom of the (English-language) B92 homepage you'll find a link to all the oral arguments presented at the ICJ public hearing. Most of these are in English, the rest in French. It is a mini-course in the international law pertaining to declarations of independence, the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the requirements of statehood, etc. It makes for fascinating reading, and should provide a sounder basis for questions and comments in the future.

Demi

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.

pss

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 8 January 2010 17:15)
Such a post from those who support only one sentence of a resolution,

Ron

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?

What about parallel structures of Taiwan? Part of China, you know!

When NATO will attack Taiwan? Or when NATO will attack China?

Milan

pre 14 godina

Bwaaahaaaahaaaa... Mr Fitzgerald - than first You must arrest mr Thaci, their pseudogovernment and institutions in Priština. From February 17 2008 they are most violated Resolution 1244.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.
(the fitzgerald, 8 January 2010 22:08)

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?

dave uk

pre 14 godina

its funny how NATO worries about UN resolutions when it suits, there was no UN mandate to bomb Serbia to invade Iraq and Afganistan.We are told about Kosovo as a special case? what does that mean? It means if your pro american then you will get backing if you are not then you won't.

1244 outlines this Reaffirming the call in previous resolutions for substantial autonomy and meaningful self-administration for Kosovo, which is not independence.

so the Serbs in the north are not acting illegally, they have set up institutions inline with Serbia which took over the role of the federal republic of Yugoslavia.

For some sort of solution we need to look at the history of Britain and Ireland. Its took along time but there is a sort of peace in the north, you could argue the British had to strike a deal with IRA terrorists/freedom fighters. The Serbs and Albanians will have to do the same at some point.

Reality is the Albanians wont accept Serbian rule and the Serbs wont accept Albanian rule.

the danger is which i am sure NATO doesnt need at the moment is if the Albanians or Serbs form paramilitary groups and start fighting for what each see as there rights.

NATO fears other extremist groups entering Kosovo or Bosnia and i feel this is a main reason for backing Kosovo independence and not allowing Bosnia to break up, its about NATO control.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)
--
Ron, ethnic Albanians are still running parallel structures but we do tolerate them in our self-rule proposal. NATO are leaving shortly anyway so these confused people will be gone soon enough.

the fitzgerald

pre 14 godina

"MB,
Who in the hell are you?

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.

Jason

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Wow, this was among your most intelligent and clever posts yet! Bravo!

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.

blue and gold

pre 14 godina

Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.
(Zoran, 8 January 2010 18:05)

‘Legitimate Serbian institutions’ in Kosovo and ‘1244 is still in force’ are conflicting statements.
These ‘legitimate Serbian institutions’ you refer to and their elected representatives were decided upon during elections organized by the government of Serbia which were declared invalid by UNMIK because they were not inline with 1244. Therefore, they are not legitimate but illegal and not in line with 1244. In other words, you cannot pick and accept certain parts of 1244 but at the same time reject and respect the rest of them. You cannot have it both ways.

According to the report of the Secretary-General on the UNMIK, “UNMIK neither hindered nor supported the elections, and declared the results of the local municipal elections invalid. Following these elections, Serbian officials and Kosovo Serb leaders started to establish parallel municipal government structures in accordance with Serbian law.”
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N08/412/84/IMG/N0841284.pdf?OpenElement

Demi

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.
(MikeC, 8 January 2010 22:05)


why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.
(ben, 9 January 2010 12:00)

Keep dreaming, Ben. You guys could not even get across the Ibar in 2004 - which says tons. You outnumber Serbs 3 to 1 in Mitro yet still cannot manage to do anything more than little hit and run terrorist tactics.

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?

pss

pre 14 godina

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Look, Sejdiu was crying about this a few days ago so someone in a position to actually do something is going to voice the same concerns. But does anyone really think it's going to change? The international community is more than happy to allow parallel structures to not only continue, but to deepen, as long as doing so keeps Belgrade from actively underming older parallel structures set up by Pristina. All in the name of security and stability.

Pristina, take a look at the internal structure of Bosnia. That's your future.

John

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
[...]

(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)

What has this to do with UN Res. 1244? Or are you simply trying to "justify" the actions of the Serbs in the North of Kosovo. Well, then you definitely don't sound like somebody who actually wants to uphold UN Res 1244, otherwise you would condemn the Serbian actions there which clearly violate UN Res. 1244. You actually sound like a Serb...

sj

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

Just make sure you telephone Belgrade when you’re going to do that so that they can cower and shake. This is the US blowing wind, you know the type that makes the Albanians feel good but nothing happens after that because NATO too busy in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Yemen.

ben

pre 14 godina

Serbia had similar problems in Presheva valley in 1999-2001 and thay got their GO.

Actually Serbia was all the time trying to overtake the positions of UCPMB in Presheva valley with lightly armed forces but it was unsuccessful.

Then in 2000/01 had the GO ahead to employ the heavy weaponry and finally restored her authority in the valley.

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?
(Jason, 9 January 2010 15:05)

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.

Ron

pre 14 godina

why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 23:41)

Wow, Demi, let's substitute some words for some other words:

The only choice Albanians have is be loyal to Serbia and respect Serbian law?

You agree? Because you know, Albanians are just a minority in the state of Serbia!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Three times I posted his(Admiral Mark Fitzerald) Bio, but to no avail. Anybody interested, just google his name and you will find out where he is from.

szemi

pre 14 godina

You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Kosova-AIPEC
Look this is so funny when a turk tries to decide who is american and who is not.Remember you turks will never be either european or american and it applies to all turkish tribes.Benjamin Franklin predicted well that your kind will cause big trouble to US.

Milan

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)
Yes - I'm not Admiral Mark Fitzerald. But i'm proud, becouse I'm not american puppet. And North is not US colony or banana republic. Zvečan je Srbija!!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)
(Jason, 9 January 2010 18:38)

You claim to be smart, so how is possible you don't know your top military brass coming from your own country? Besides, just learn how to do some reaserch in your PC, and you have the information at your finger tips.
here is again the bio of Admiral Mark F.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.
(pss, 9 January 2010 14:18)
===============

No enlighten me. Where exactly does it say that K-Albanians can declare independece and have their own president and PM?

Please point to that section. If there is anywhere in Res 1244 that says that, then I will admit that your government is legitimate.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters after meeting with KFOR Commander Marcus Bentler.

exactly.No need for parallel structures because res 1244 states that kosovo is still sovereign territory of Serbia.God bless.

Pijetro

pre 14 godina

I agree. Respect 1244 and shout it from the mountain tops for all to hear.

But if history repeats itself, you'll to pick out the parts you don't like, change the rest to your desire, and reneg on an agreement, just like Kumanovo.

What a farce...

Top

pre 14 godina

About which "parallel structures" is the fuzz about? About Serbian? Or about Kosovarian? Aren't they both parallel to the EULEX/UNMIK structures, described in 1244?

JC

pre 14 godina

Kosovo-USA, what exactly is your point regarding the nationality of Admiral Fitzgerald? That Americans need to blindly follow orders based on nationality? Those of use with real jobs don't have the time to keep track of hundreds of military "top brass".

Fitzgerald should be ashamed of himself with this statement about UN1244. The US has trampled on this document from day 1 and now he wants to invoke it?!?!

tim

pre 14 godina

Enforcement of law and treaty is now only a matter of "is it convenient". So, the EU and USA do not find it convenient to interfere with Northern Kosovo, nor do they find it convenient to move the K albs out of their stateless limbo. Time is on Serbia's side.

Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

With Americans newly stationed in the North this is something to keep in focus. Are the Americans preparing for some new military adventure?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.

Micheal Breathnach

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland

Ron

pre 14 godina

Then act against the Albanians NOW and tell them that THEY are breaching 1244.

This whole Kosovo soap becomes more stupid day by day!

Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

But wait a minute, I'm reading from the k-a posters here nearly everyday that 1244 no longer exists... am getting really confused now!
Twisting in the air...

pss

pre 14 godina

Mr. Fitzgerald.
How dare you!
Who in the hell do you think you are?!
NATO / KFOR have always given the two fingers (one in Central Europe & N.America) to UN Resolution 1244.
And now you have the cheek to even refer to this resolution which your 'organisation' has so denigrated.
This blatant two-faced hypocrisy really disgusts me.
Shame on you!

MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 8 January 2010 17:15)
Such a post from those who support only one sentence of a resolution,

pss

pre 14 godina

I pretty sure the local authorities in Pristina are pretty heavily in violation of 1244.
(Matthew, 8 January 2010 17:20)
Actually you could not be more wrong. Officials in Pristina were elected in UNMIK called elections as stated in 1244, the only people allowed to call elections in Kosovo until they handed that authority to the elected officials. The Serbian elections were never by nor endorsed by UNMIK nor EULEX nor Kosovo govt. Serbia has no power for elections in Kosovo under 1244. A very big part of the resolution.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters
--
Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?
(Jason, 9 January 2010 15:05)

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.
(the fitzgerald, 8 January 2010 22:08)

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?

Amer

pre 14 godina

'
Kosovo is still part of Serbia. The Albanians are violating 1244!
(Ron, 8 January 2010 18:00)'

Ron, if you look towards the bottom of the (English-language) B92 homepage you'll find a link to all the oral arguments presented at the ICJ public hearing. Most of these are in English, the rest in French. It is a mini-course in the international law pertaining to declarations of independence, the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states, the requirements of statehood, etc. It makes for fascinating reading, and should provide a sounder basis for questions and comments in the future.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?

What about parallel structures of Taiwan? Part of China, you know!

When NATO will attack Taiwan? Or when NATO will attack China?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.
(MikeC, 8 January 2010 22:05)


why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Three times I posted his(Admiral Mark Fitzerald) Bio, but to no avail. Anybody interested, just google his name and you will find out where he is from.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Look, Sejdiu was crying about this a few days ago so someone in a position to actually do something is going to voice the same concerns. But does anyone really think it's going to change? The international community is more than happy to allow parallel structures to not only continue, but to deepen, as long as doing so keeps Belgrade from actively underming older parallel structures set up by Pristina. All in the name of security and stability.

Pristina, take a look at the internal structure of Bosnia. That's your future.

John

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
[...]

(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)

What has this to do with UN Res. 1244? Or are you simply trying to "justify" the actions of the Serbs in the North of Kosovo. Well, then you definitely don't sound like somebody who actually wants to uphold UN Res 1244, otherwise you would condemn the Serbian actions there which clearly violate UN Res. 1244. You actually sound like a Serb...

Milan

pre 14 godina

Bwaaahaaaahaaaa... Mr Fitzgerald - than first You must arrest mr Thaci, their pseudogovernment and institutions in Priština. From February 17 2008 they are most violated Resolution 1244.

the fitzgerald

pre 14 godina

"MB,
Who in the hell are you?

As far as who am I; With one word I can sent you and the whole 5 miles radius back to stone age. Now seriously, I am appointed by UN peacekeeping order to protect 1244 as I see it fit and you can't do a thing about it."

I can imagine this is how the Admiral would have answered to MB.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)
(Jason, 9 January 2010 18:38)

You claim to be smart, so how is possible you don't know your top military brass coming from your own country? Besides, just learn how to do some reaserch in your PC, and you have the information at your finger tips.
here is again the bio of Admiral Mark F.

ben

pre 14 godina

Serbia had similar problems in Presheva valley in 1999-2001 and thay got their GO.

Actually Serbia was all the time trying to overtake the positions of UCPMB in Presheva valley with lightly armed forces but it was unsuccessful.

Then in 2000/01 had the GO ahead to employ the heavy weaponry and finally restored her authority in the valley.

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

What about the parellel structures the Albanians had before 1999?
(Ron, 8 January 2010 19:49)
--
Ron, ethnic Albanians are still running parallel structures but we do tolerate them in our self-rule proposal. NATO are leaving shortly anyway so these confused people will be gone soon enough.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Now it looks Kosova will get her GO for the north.

There are heavy weapons are in posses to FSK but that should not be a problem for the bunch of chicken theft Serbians in north.
(ben, 9 January 2010 12:00)

Keep dreaming, Ben. You guys could not even get across the Ibar in 2004 - which says tons. You outnumber Serbs 3 to 1 in Mitro yet still cannot manage to do anything more than little hit and run terrorist tactics.

Besides, the US says you cannot occupy the north - hell, they won't even interfere with the power situation on your behalf - so what makes you think we will let you start more trouble than you can handle?

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Only way the US and the albanians will get rid of parallel structures is by expelling the remaining Serbs. And that will never happen so get used to it.

sj

pre 14 godina

Now it is time to take care of those pararell structures in the north. Then serbs can freely vote on future election in Kosovo with no further bad influance from Belgrade.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 17:23)

Just make sure you telephone Belgrade when you’re going to do that so that they can cower and shake. This is the US blowing wind, you know the type that makes the Albanians feel good but nothing happens after that because NATO too busy in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Yemen.

Ron

pre 14 godina

why will it never happend ? In the end they got only two choices. One is to integrate into the Kosovar sociaty and respect the law of Kosovo while at the same time being loyal to Kosovo. The other choice is more welcome and that is to pack their bags and move to where they fit better.
(Demi, 8 January 2010 23:41)

Wow, Demi, let's substitute some words for some other words:

The only choice Albanians have is be loyal to Serbia and respect Serbian law?

You agree? Because you know, Albanians are just a minority in the state of Serbia!

pss

pre 14 godina

BUT, the UN has not recognised Kosovo therefore Serbian structures stand until such time.

This makes Albanian structure illegal according to res 1244 which BTW is from the UN.

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.

Jason

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Wow, this was among your most intelligent and clever posts yet! Bravo!

Just so you know, buddy, I am not in KFOR so I am entirely unfamiliar with who does what. It is none of my concern. However, I doubt that you are a real Albanian unless you can tell me who the Kosovo hot dog eating champion was last year:)

Milan

pre 14 godina

You are no Admiral Mark Fitzerald my homeboy. You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)
Yes - I'm not Admiral Mark Fitzerald. But i'm proud, becouse I'm not american puppet. And North is not US colony or banana republic. Zvečan je Srbija!!

Top

pre 14 godina

About which "parallel structures" is the fuzz about? About Serbian? Or about Kosovarian? Aren't they both parallel to the EULEX/UNMIK structures, described in 1244?

szemi

pre 14 godina

You are no American as you claim since you don't know where your Admiral is from.
(Kosova-USA, 9 January 2010 16:01)

Kosova-AIPEC
Look this is so funny when a turk tries to decide who is american and who is not.Remember you turks will never be either european or american and it applies to all turkish tribes.Benjamin Franklin predicted well that your kind will cause big trouble to US.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now, who is going to be blown back to stoneage?
(Peggy, 9 January 2010 00:09)
Either you have not read or do not understand 1244.
(pss, 9 January 2010 14:18)
===============

No enlighten me. Where exactly does it say that K-Albanians can declare independece and have their own president and PM?

Please point to that section. If there is anywhere in Res 1244 that says that, then I will admit that your government is legitimate.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

"All violations of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 pose a threat to security. Since the resolution does not approve of parallel institutions, they are cause for concern," the U.S. admiral told reporters after meeting with KFOR Commander Marcus Bentler.

exactly.No need for parallel structures because res 1244 states that kosovo is still sovereign territory of Serbia.God bless.

blue and gold

pre 14 godina

Listen my friends, 1244 is still in force. Also, I wasn't aware that parallel ethnic Albanian institutions have extended into the North? There must be some confusion here as the legitimate Serbian institutions are clearly in control. Time to focus on the lawless south I think.
(Zoran, 8 January 2010 18:05)

‘Legitimate Serbian institutions’ in Kosovo and ‘1244 is still in force’ are conflicting statements.
These ‘legitimate Serbian institutions’ you refer to and their elected representatives were decided upon during elections organized by the government of Serbia which were declared invalid by UNMIK because they were not inline with 1244. Therefore, they are not legitimate but illegal and not in line with 1244. In other words, you cannot pick and accept certain parts of 1244 but at the same time reject and respect the rest of them. You cannot have it both ways.

According to the report of the Secretary-General on the UNMIK, “UNMIK neither hindered nor supported the elections, and declared the results of the local municipal elections invalid. Following these elections, Serbian officials and Kosovo Serb leaders started to establish parallel municipal government structures in accordance with Serbian law.”
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N08/412/84/IMG/N0841284.pdf?OpenElement

dave uk

pre 14 godina

its funny how NATO worries about UN resolutions when it suits, there was no UN mandate to bomb Serbia to invade Iraq and Afganistan.We are told about Kosovo as a special case? what does that mean? It means if your pro american then you will get backing if you are not then you won't.

1244 outlines this Reaffirming the call in previous resolutions for substantial autonomy and meaningful self-administration for Kosovo, which is not independence.

so the Serbs in the north are not acting illegally, they have set up institutions inline with Serbia which took over the role of the federal republic of Yugoslavia.

For some sort of solution we need to look at the history of Britain and Ireland. Its took along time but there is a sort of peace in the north, you could argue the British had to strike a deal with IRA terrorists/freedom fighters. The Serbs and Albanians will have to do the same at some point.

Reality is the Albanians wont accept Serbian rule and the Serbs wont accept Albanian rule.

the danger is which i am sure NATO doesnt need at the moment is if the Albanians or Serbs form paramilitary groups and start fighting for what each see as there rights.

NATO fears other extremist groups entering Kosovo or Bosnia and i feel this is a main reason for backing Kosovo independence and not allowing Bosnia to break up, its about NATO control.

Pijetro

pre 14 godina

I agree. Respect 1244 and shout it from the mountain tops for all to hear.

But if history repeats itself, you'll to pick out the parts you don't like, change the rest to your desire, and reneg on an agreement, just like Kumanovo.

What a farce...

JC

pre 14 godina

Kosovo-USA, what exactly is your point regarding the nationality of Admiral Fitzgerald? That Americans need to blindly follow orders based on nationality? Those of use with real jobs don't have the time to keep track of hundreds of military "top brass".

Fitzgerald should be ashamed of himself with this statement about UN1244. The US has trampled on this document from day 1 and now he wants to invoke it?!?!

tim

pre 14 godina

Enforcement of law and treaty is now only a matter of "is it convenient". So, the EU and USA do not find it convenient to interfere with Northern Kosovo, nor do they find it convenient to move the K albs out of their stateless limbo. Time is on Serbia's side.

Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

With Americans newly stationed in the North this is something to keep in focus. Are the Americans preparing for some new military adventure?