President arrives in Kosovo for Christmas

Kosova-USA, if it were for the KFOR troops, I'm sure the monastery would be used as a toilet by many disgruntled Albanian youth. There's a good Youtube video from 2004 showing one Albanian man relieving himself in a Serbian church. Thanks for the help KFOR.

"guarded by Italian KFOR units" =5-6 soldiers at any given time at the main entrance doing nothing andgetting bored to death."
(Kosova-USA)

-- Actually, the Italian soldiers have developed a strong friendship with the monks of Decani. They not only guard the monastery from sporadic attacks by Albanian hypernationalists, but help work on the grounds, pray and eat with the monks. It was one of the reasons why Decani and Pec (also guarded by Italians) have remained untouched by the Albanian mob since 1999. If you'd been there, which I know you haven't, you'd know this. As usual, one can measure your level of ignorance on an issue by the level of bombasity in your comment.

A very merry Christmas to all Serbs, especially in Kosovo ! This year, after the ICJ verdict, will be a final spike in the coffin to try to take away the land that Serbs have had for over a millenium. We, the international community, no matter where they come from, know now what really happened and that the vast majority of Serbs are incredible nice and proud people. I would also like to say that you should thank you foreign minister Jeremic. I know that the majority of western diplomats and leaders really admire him for his skills. It looked very dark for Serbia two years ago. Now, you can travel free, Belgrade is again one of the worlds most important cities, there are and will be huge investments in Serbia. Kosovo on the other hand. A black hole. Dirty with no law and order. Politicians who are gangsters in suits that doesn´t care a bit of their people and every year get bigger and bigger jeeps and houses. And the people think they are former freedom fighters?? My God, how stupid.

Happy Holidays to entire Orthodox World!!!!!!!

What really is in question here is why any Serb would ever need to ask permission to visit a Serbian church that's from the 14th century. Any normal person can clearly see that Kosovo is Serbian. Why else would there be so many Serb churches there and especially one's that are centuries old? Such complete nonsense! There are no Serb minorities in Kosovo, only Albanian minorities in Serbia's Kosovo province!

haha, it happened again.What a joke of a 'independent country'.
"Tadic won't be allowed to come"
And there he is.
And the Albanians who hate him so much are so well-behaved.
Hm...
Still, a very ugly behavior from K-Albanian so called 'government'.
Arrogant blaffing,
and then passive- agressive obeying to the will of their masters.

Mike,

Do not pay any mind to our little friend, aka "MF." He clearly has no idea what he is talking about and it is plainly apparent to anyone that has the most rudimentary knowledge of Kosovo. As I wrote in one other post regarding him, "Ignorance is bliss."

On the note of that terrorist who "protected" Decani - let us not forget that he tortured and killed Serbs and is in no way a friend to any decent human being. Any actions regarding the monastery were purely political and/or at the instruction of his masters. Haradinaj was and remains a coward and a terrorist.

Merry Christmas Eve!

Merry x-mas to all of you !!!

A happy and peaceful Christmas to all my Serbian friends. A special thought for those under siege in Kosovo. Freedom will come.

The villages around the monastery are populated almost entirely by ethnic Albanians, and the monastery facilities, its fraternity and economy are guarded by Italian KFOR units.

"almost entirely " =entirely


"guarded by Italian KFOR units" =5-6 soldiers at any given time at the main entrance doing nothing andgetting bored to death.

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?

Actually, the Italian soldiers have developed a strong friendship with the monks of Decani. They not only guard the monastery from sporadic attacks by Albanian hypernationalists, but help work on the grounds, pray and eat with the monks. It was one of the reasons why Decani and Pec (also guarded by Italians) have remained untouched by the Albanian mob since 1999. If you'd been there, which I know you haven't, you'd know this. As usual, one can measure your level of ignorance on an issue by the level of bombasity in your comment.
(Mike, 6 January 2010 16:58)

You got to be joking Mike. "They have been guarding from 1999". You should thank RAMBO,because in 2004 riots he gave the order to protect Monastery. I was in Bjeloplje and Italian soldiers ran to village italia with their tails behind. Also ,you should thank some american police officers along with kosova police on the ground in that area on that day.now I know that you have never been in Kosova in your entire life.

>"almost entirely " =entirely

You proud of that boy? Sad, very sad.

Kosova-USA, it really doesn't matter to me whether you think I've been to Kosovo or not. You're not someone I spend an inordinate amount of time trying to reason with.

Tadic does indeed have private reasons to be at the monastery, since his ex-wife lives there as a nun. Plus, as you can see, he didn't make any explicit political statements, just some vague pronouncements about peace, reconciliation, heritage, etc. This is quite different from the stuff he said in his last visit.
I don't see any reasons to gloat on either side. Kosovar gov't did what it was supposed to do and Tadic did his part of the bargain too.
But if he does end up making a political speech, it won't be him who'll suffer, but the dwindling serb population in Kosovo.

Merry Christmas ! And nothing else matters today !

No Kosovo Je Serbia from Tadic? I guess he is abiding by rules from Kosovo government after all.Tadic is smart enough to understand the situation in Kosovo. His modest goals of protecting cultural heritage of Serbs is an acceptable proposition by most, including Albanians. I am pleasantly surprised by his speech. Kosovo welcomes any and all politicians with these kind of messages.

"This year, after the ICJ verdict, will be a final spike in the coffin to try to take away the land that Serbs have had for over a millenium.

(Staff, 6 January 2010 16:20)"

Did you really mean to say that this year will be the final step in the Kosovars regaining their land? (The final step leading to an undesired end - from the point of view of the speaker, naturally.)

BTW, a "coffin nail" is a slang term for a cigarette.

haha, it happened again.What a joke of a 'independent country'.
"Tadic won't be allowed to come"
And there he is.
And the Albanians who hate him so much are so well-behaved.
Hm...
Still, a very ugly behavior from K-Albanian so called 'government'.
Arrogant blaffing,
and then passive- agressive obeying to the will of their masters.
(veki, 6 January 2010, 15:31)

"Peace on Earth, goodwill to men." ?

Merry christmass to all the orthodox serbs.

Why ordinary people wonder too much about his visit? It didn't mean anything to me. Serbs travel everyday within K and I see them just like all other people in K. I'm fine with this, unless somebody (no matter; albanian, serb or...) make trouble, then...!? Leaders speak on the phone everyday and work together. Let them do their job and we do ours and live our life the best we can. I think this festive day means to bring love and peace between people not hate?
I guess, people who comment in this side its just a small group who cant really see other colors than black (and white-maybe)!

Cheers and Merry Orthodox Christmas to all who celebrate.

Merry Christmas to all my Serbian friends.

B92:

You didn't translate Tanjug correctly!

"Visoki Dečani is located in Metohija, in western Kosovo, and it is the largest and best preserved Serb Orthodox medieval monastery, famous, among other things, for its 14th century frescoes."

In Serbian, Tanjug wrote "Manastir Visoki Dečani nalazi se u Metohiji, i danas je najveći i najbolje očuvani srednjovekovni manastir u Srbiji, slavan, izmedju ostalog, i po svojim freskama iz 14. veka."

On its English Web site, Tanjug translated its story: "Visoki Decani Monastery is located in Metohija, and it is the biggest and the best preserved medieval monastery in Serbia, famous, among other things, for its 14th century frescoes."

Metohija is Metohija! It's not "western Kosovo!"

It's Kosovo and Metohija!

Also, Tanjug is correct when they write "in Serbia" which you edited out of the story!

Did you really mean to say that this year will be the final step in the Kosovars regaining their land? (The final step leading to an undesired end - from the point of view of the speaker, naturally.)

BTW, a "coffin nail" is a slang term for a cigarette.
(Amer, 6 January 2010 20:03)

--They didn't regain it, they took it. Merry Christmas!

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?
(Pejoni, 6 January 2010 16:41)

Can you drop the sarcasm at least on Christmas?

Do you only come here to provoke us?

Why don't you take a leaf ou tof your brother's book (UNE) and simply say merry Christmas. Leave the rubbish for another day.

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?
(Pejoni, 6 January 2010 16:41)
Pejoni - nevermind how he comes, but he comes. He comes to province of Kosovo and Metohija without asking Albanian pseudoauthorities and mr Thaci can doing nothing.

Amer,

""Correctly" is not the same as "literally." "

This reminds me of a sign on the London underground - "dogs must be carried on elevators". What happens if you do not have a dog?

In deciding what the true meaning of something that is said rather than its literal meaning I prefer the authority of Humpty Dumpty in Alice Through the Looking Glass - "It means what I meant it to mean, neither more nor less."

God I sound like Ataman :p

Mister -

"This reminds me of a sign on the London underground - "dogs must be carried on elevators". What happens if you do not have a dog?"

You mean no enterprising soul has opened a short-term dog-rental service? I'd suggest teacup poodles: not only would costs run lower, but you could charge a premium for the convenience. Having a mastiff lounging about as the alternative would help drive the point home.

'B92:

You didn't translate Tanjug correctly! '

"Correctly" is not the same as "literally." English speakers don't know what a "metohija" is (or are?). Or how to pronounce the word. Meaning they'd simply skip over the word, and if it looks like propaganda for a political position they'd probably skip the entire article.

Remember, B92 has more chance of getting Serbian views across if other-than-Serbs actually read their articles.

An English (American variant) Speaker

Actually, the Italian soldiers have developed a strong friendship with the monks of Decani. They not only guard the monastery from sporadic attacks by Albanian hypernationalists, but help work on the grounds, pray and eat with the monks. It was one of the reasons why Decani and Pec (also guarded by Italians) have remained untouched by the Albanian mob since 1999. If you'd been there, which I know you haven't, you'd know this. As usual, one can measure your level of ignorance on an issue by the level of bombasity in your comment.
(Mike, 6 January 2010 16:58)

You got to be joking Mike. "They have been guarding from 1999". You should thank RAMBO,because in 2004 riots he gave the order to protect Monastery. I was in Bjeloplje and Italian soldiers ran to village italia with their tails behind. Also ,you should thank some american police officers along with kosova police on the ground in that area on that day.now I know that you have never been in Kosova in your entire life.

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?

The villages around the monastery are populated almost entirely by ethnic Albanians, and the monastery facilities, its fraternity and economy are guarded by Italian KFOR units.

"almost entirely " =entirely


"guarded by Italian KFOR units" =5-6 soldiers at any given time at the main entrance doing nothing andgetting bored to death.

What really is in question here is why any Serb would ever need to ask permission to visit a Serbian church that's from the 14th century. Any normal person can clearly see that Kosovo is Serbian. Why else would there be so many Serb churches there and especially one's that are centuries old? Such complete nonsense! There are no Serb minorities in Kosovo, only Albanian minorities in Serbia's Kosovo province!

A very merry Christmas to all Serbs, especially in Kosovo ! This year, after the ICJ verdict, will be a final spike in the coffin to try to take away the land that Serbs have had for over a millenium. We, the international community, no matter where they come from, know now what really happened and that the vast majority of Serbs are incredible nice and proud people. I would also like to say that you should thank you foreign minister Jeremic. I know that the majority of western diplomats and leaders really admire him for his skills. It looked very dark for Serbia two years ago. Now, you can travel free, Belgrade is again one of the worlds most important cities, there are and will be huge investments in Serbia. Kosovo on the other hand. A black hole. Dirty with no law and order. Politicians who are gangsters in suits that doesn´t care a bit of their people and every year get bigger and bigger jeeps and houses. And the people think they are former freedom fighters?? My God, how stupid.

haha, it happened again.What a joke of a 'independent country'.
"Tadic won't be allowed to come"
And there he is.
And the Albanians who hate him so much are so well-behaved.
Hm...
Still, a very ugly behavior from K-Albanian so called 'government'.
Arrogant blaffing,
and then passive- agressive obeying to the will of their masters.

haha, it happened again.What a joke of a 'independent country'.
"Tadic won't be allowed to come"
And there he is.
And the Albanians who hate him so much are so well-behaved.
Hm...
Still, a very ugly behavior from K-Albanian so called 'government'.
Arrogant blaffing,
and then passive- agressive obeying to the will of their masters.
(veki, 6 January 2010, 15:31)

"Peace on Earth, goodwill to men." ?

Kosova-USA, if it were for the KFOR troops, I'm sure the monastery would be used as a toilet by many disgruntled Albanian youth. There's a good Youtube video from 2004 showing one Albanian man relieving himself in a Serbian church. Thanks for the help KFOR.

"guarded by Italian KFOR units" =5-6 soldiers at any given time at the main entrance doing nothing andgetting bored to death."
(Kosova-USA)

-- Actually, the Italian soldiers have developed a strong friendship with the monks of Decani. They not only guard the monastery from sporadic attacks by Albanian hypernationalists, but help work on the grounds, pray and eat with the monks. It was one of the reasons why Decani and Pec (also guarded by Italians) have remained untouched by the Albanian mob since 1999. If you'd been there, which I know you haven't, you'd know this. As usual, one can measure your level of ignorance on an issue by the level of bombasity in your comment.

No Kosovo Je Serbia from Tadic? I guess he is abiding by rules from Kosovo government after all.Tadic is smart enough to understand the situation in Kosovo. His modest goals of protecting cultural heritage of Serbs is an acceptable proposition by most, including Albanians. I am pleasantly surprised by his speech. Kosovo welcomes any and all politicians with these kind of messages.

Mike,

Do not pay any mind to our little friend, aka "MF." He clearly has no idea what he is talking about and it is plainly apparent to anyone that has the most rudimentary knowledge of Kosovo. As I wrote in one other post regarding him, "Ignorance is bliss."

On the note of that terrorist who "protected" Decani - let us not forget that he tortured and killed Serbs and is in no way a friend to any decent human being. Any actions regarding the monastery were purely political and/or at the instruction of his masters. Haradinaj was and remains a coward and a terrorist.

Merry Christmas Eve!

"This year, after the ICJ verdict, will be a final spike in the coffin to try to take away the land that Serbs have had for over a millenium.

(Staff, 6 January 2010 16:20)"

Did you really mean to say that this year will be the final step in the Kosovars regaining their land? (The final step leading to an undesired end - from the point of view of the speaker, naturally.)

BTW, a "coffin nail" is a slang term for a cigarette.

A happy and peaceful Christmas to all my Serbian friends. A special thought for those under siege in Kosovo. Freedom will come.

Tadic does indeed have private reasons to be at the monastery, since his ex-wife lives there as a nun. Plus, as you can see, he didn't make any explicit political statements, just some vague pronouncements about peace, reconciliation, heritage, etc. This is quite different from the stuff he said in his last visit.
I don't see any reasons to gloat on either side. Kosovar gov't did what it was supposed to do and Tadic did his part of the bargain too.
But if he does end up making a political speech, it won't be him who'll suffer, but the dwindling serb population in Kosovo.

Kosova-USA, it really doesn't matter to me whether you think I've been to Kosovo or not. You're not someone I spend an inordinate amount of time trying to reason with.

B92:

You didn't translate Tanjug correctly!

"Visoki Dečani is located in Metohija, in western Kosovo, and it is the largest and best preserved Serb Orthodox medieval monastery, famous, among other things, for its 14th century frescoes."

In Serbian, Tanjug wrote "Manastir Visoki Dečani nalazi se u Metohiji, i danas je najveći i najbolje očuvani srednjovekovni manastir u Srbiji, slavan, izmedju ostalog, i po svojim freskama iz 14. veka."

On its English Web site, Tanjug translated its story: "Visoki Decani Monastery is located in Metohija, and it is the biggest and the best preserved medieval monastery in Serbia, famous, among other things, for its 14th century frescoes."

Metohija is Metohija! It's not "western Kosovo!"

It's Kosovo and Metohija!

Also, Tanjug is correct when they write "in Serbia" which you edited out of the story!

Happy Holidays to entire Orthodox World!!!!!!!

Merry x-mas to all of you !!!

>"almost entirely " =entirely

You proud of that boy? Sad, very sad.

Merry christmass to all the orthodox serbs.

Merry Christmas ! And nothing else matters today !

Did you really mean to say that this year will be the final step in the Kosovars regaining their land? (The final step leading to an undesired end - from the point of view of the speaker, naturally.)

BTW, a "coffin nail" is a slang term for a cigarette.
(Amer, 6 January 2010 20:03)

--They didn't regain it, they took it. Merry Christmas!

'B92:

You didn't translate Tanjug correctly! '

"Correctly" is not the same as "literally." English speakers don't know what a "metohija" is (or are?). Or how to pronounce the word. Meaning they'd simply skip over the word, and if it looks like propaganda for a political position they'd probably skip the entire article.

Remember, B92 has more chance of getting Serbian views across if other-than-Serbs actually read their articles.

An English (American variant) Speaker

Why ordinary people wonder too much about his visit? It didn't mean anything to me. Serbs travel everyday within K and I see them just like all other people in K. I'm fine with this, unless somebody (no matter; albanian, serb or...) make trouble, then...!? Leaders speak on the phone everyday and work together. Let them do their job and we do ours and live our life the best we can. I think this festive day means to bring love and peace between people not hate?
I guess, people who comment in this side its just a small group who cant really see other colors than black (and white-maybe)!

Cheers and Merry Orthodox Christmas to all who celebrate.

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?
(Pejoni, 6 January 2010 16:41)

Can you drop the sarcasm at least on Christmas?

Do you only come here to provoke us?

Why don't you take a leaf ou tof your brother's book (UNE) and simply say merry Christmas. Leave the rubbish for another day.

So how did he arrive in Kosovo, by Audi or plane? Are Belgrade officials scared to land in Prishtina International Airport or are planes from Serbia forbiden to enter Kosovo's territorium?
(Pejoni, 6 January 2010 16:41)
Pejoni - nevermind how he comes, but he comes. He comes to province of Kosovo and Metohija without asking Albanian pseudoauthorities and mr Thaci can doing nothing.

Amer,

""Correctly" is not the same as "literally." "

This reminds me of a sign on the London underground - "dogs must be carried on elevators". What happens if you do not have a dog?

In deciding what the true meaning of something that is said rather than its literal meaning I prefer the authority of Humpty Dumpty in Alice Through the Looking Glass - "It means what I meant it to mean, neither more nor less."

God I sound like Ataman :p

Merry Christmas to all my Serbian friends.

Mister -

"This reminds me of a sign on the London underground - "dogs must be carried on elevators". What happens if you do not have a dog?"

You mean no enterprising soul has opened a short-term dog-rental service? I'd suggest teacup poodles: not only would costs run lower, but you could charge a premium for the convenience. Having a mastiff lounging about as the alternative would help drive the point home.