EC official: Serbia to join EU in 5-7 years

Ian, I have to agree with you here. There seems to be this unofficial competition among nationalists as to who's country-that-they-currently-don't-live-in gets into the EU first. If it takes 5 - 7 years for Serbia to properly and easily enter the EU, then so be it. I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did. Look at how the EU is having a hard time digesting them. No, best to do it right, so the institutions of each state are fully optimized before integration. I have full faith that once Serbia enters, it will be the economic, political, and geographic powerhouse of Southeastern Europe.

Yahoooo!

Only 5 more years sitting on our hands then we all suddenly will become instant MILLIONAIRES!

EU is a Sendero luminoso, a shining path to wealth and luxury for everybody, heaven on earth!

"The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics." (T Payne)

-- Yep, that's pretty much the only reason: to keep Russia out, even though Russia has claimed it has no interests as far as the EU goes (outside the former USSR boundaries). Besdies, they still hold Europe where it hurts whenever gas is concerned.

As far as the claim of Serbia not having any geopolitical interests to EU, that's a false statement. With or without Kosovo, Serbia's geographic position in SE Europe is vital for the entire regions' integration with the EU. With the possible exception of Athens, there is no other urban center in the Balkans that has as stragetic an economic or political position as Belgrade. The longer Serbia is left out, the longer the entire region is left out.

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more

'I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did.'
(Mike, 26 December 2009 17:47)

The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics.

“We want Europe to really be Europe, and that will not be possible without Serbia,”

We also want Europe to really be Europe, but that is not possible with EU members acting like barbarians.

'I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did.'
(Mike, 26 December 2009 17:47)

The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics.
T Payne

In that case Albania must be really backward since its in NATO but not the EU.

I think that Serbia will be prepared to join the EU in 2018.

I think 5-7 years in reasonable. I don't think Serbia, Albania, Macedonia etc should be rushed like Romania and Bulgaria were. Expansion into the Western Balkans should be done properly and the EU should take it's time with the Balkan states. Rushing the Western Balkans will just make the EU weaker. However I hope that all the Western Balkan states will be in the EU by 2017.

The EU and Serbias entry into it doesnt matter. Like all things in this world, the EU will not last and in the greater view of things matters very little.

What matters is that my ancestral homeland of Serbia follow a true path - Serbia can play a great role in developing what realy matters-world peace and the end of the abomination of war.

PEACE

In 5-7 years, aside from Serbs becoming demoralized with the prospects of membership, the EU will be more redundant through dependancy on RUS to the point that joining it won't matter much b.c BRIC will be the better option, these 5-7 years are the time it'll take for RUS to subvert Brussels' pro-US bureaucrats, whose mind-games are something SRS will capitalize on at the expense of Tadic & especially Nikolic a la 'I told you so' - once a vindicated Seselj returns from the Hague in 2010.

it´s much easier: NEVER !!!

not in 7 nor in 700 years ...

I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did
---
To block Russia oout! See the map, now EU and NATO own all the EUROPE they want. Plus, they helped them in 1999 in Kosova.

Serbia offers no such geopol reasons

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more
(Kosova-USA, 26 December 2009 15:17)

Here is something fresh off the press for you Albanians who think nothing has changed since the 1990s, next April that announcement will be down to 3 years, by September another press statement will be made that Serbia will be accepted in 2012. Print this and keep it for future reference so that you can come back and tell me I received wrong information.
Oh! bye the way, Russia’s conditions to help NATO in Afghanistan is being discussed at the moment and there is a majority in favour of accepting them. You see, the US strongly objects, but is in no position to refuse that help. What does that mean for the Albanians in Kosovo, well not too good for you guys, your US allies are about to sell you out.

However I hope that all the Western Balkan states will be in the EU by 2017.
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2009 15:44)

No way for Albania and Kosovo. We don't need more of those criminals here in UK. Look at what they did to us: drugs, killings, assassinations, organised prostitution. Just name any crime, Albanians are leaders. They treat women like dirt, they don't have respect for our values.

Five years for Croatia, seven years for the other ex-yugo republics.Bosnia might need more time because of their internal problems.

it´s much easier: NEVER !!!

not in 7 nor in 700 years ...
(raso

I agree. Not just because its easier it's also realistic. From both sides a lot is unknown. We dont know what our next government will be about. Nobody knows it even if hard work and lots of money come from abroad so there's a kind of stability. There's also things like war reparations and persecution of war criminals from Eu countries that attacked us in 99, and withdrawing of recognitions of the secessionist-terrorists. It will be impossible to join. And anyway people only want it for the money and look at Romania and Bulgaria they make less than we do. So no point except for propaganda and elections and so on.

5-7 years?????
Is this what Vuk means when he says that Serbia is on the "fast track" to the EU!
Hehehe
I'm afraid it will take some what longer than that. Better for Serbia to go with Russia, another "beacon of Democracy".

Serbia's geographic position in SE Europe is vital for the entire regions' integration with the EU
---
Mike, every country has a certain position. Is Serbia's that valuable? NO! Montenegro's is 100% more valuable because of the sea. Kosova can be aid it is the center of the Balkans too. Albania has the sea and Otranto canal. Suppose that Serbia wants to play harball with the EU. What can Serbia really do? Not much, you are all surrounded on all sides by NATO and EU countries.

Albania had an immense value in the cold war era because Russia had a submarine base right next to NATO and Western countries. Serbia cannot even get a delivery unless NATO agrees so your options are very limited. If you try to hurt EU you hurt yourself 10x more. US /EU are masters at playing hardball when they want to

Hope Serbia WITH KOSOVO will join asap.

Hopefully more like 5 years short of any bumps in the road. Serbia's genocide suit against Croatia might mean the Croats not sharing with Serbia all their hard work on translating the acquis communautaire into the local lingo.

As for Serbia being in a strategic position in the Balkans, I suggest Mr. 'Reality hits hard' picks up a map and has a good look - it is the shortest route and hence the cheapest for the transport of goods etc. etc.

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more
(Kosova-USA, 26 December 2009 15:17)
THis is one time I agree with this poster.I hope 5-7 is a typo and the diplomat really meant 57yrs.
God bless sovereign Serbia.

No way for Albania and Kosovo. We don't need more of those criminals here in UK. Look at what they did to us: drugs, killings, assassinations, organised prostitution. Just name any crime, Albanians are leaders. They treat women like dirt, they don't have respect for our values.
(Griffin, 27 December 2009 14:15)

What? Wait a minute here. The leader of crime I would say is those who murder people. Selling some drugs is no crime compared to murder innocent people including children and women. When it comes to the womens I cannot talk about somebody elses women but mine is treated like a diamond. And she deserves it because our albanin women are the best in the world.


But anyway Kosovo is independent so you can talk how much you want. it dosen't matter anymore because nobody in the world belives your propganda anymore.

Thank you EU official for the best Christmas present thus far. That is more than enough time for the changing of the guards both locally and globally, and for the Serbian people to plan and prepare for their next strategic move. That Chinese bu shi in Copenhagen the other day and *PUTINMAN* net in Germany to Western dominance, are clear signs that the Serbian people wont be celebrating and "dancing with a bunch of drunken sailors on a sinkin' ship"
.

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more

5-7 years?????
Is this what Vuk means when he says that Serbia is on the "fast track" to the EU!
Hehehe
I'm afraid it will take some what longer than that. Better for Serbia to go with Russia, another "beacon of Democracy".

Serbia's geographic position in SE Europe is vital for the entire regions' integration with the EU
---
Mike, every country has a certain position. Is Serbia's that valuable? NO! Montenegro's is 100% more valuable because of the sea. Kosova can be aid it is the center of the Balkans too. Albania has the sea and Otranto canal. Suppose that Serbia wants to play harball with the EU. What can Serbia really do? Not much, you are all surrounded on all sides by NATO and EU countries.

Albania had an immense value in the cold war era because Russia had a submarine base right next to NATO and Western countries. Serbia cannot even get a delivery unless NATO agrees so your options are very limited. If you try to hurt EU you hurt yourself 10x more. US /EU are masters at playing hardball when they want to

I think that Serbia will be prepared to join the EU in 2018.

I think 5-7 years in reasonable. I don't think Serbia, Albania, Macedonia etc should be rushed like Romania and Bulgaria were. Expansion into the Western Balkans should be done properly and the EU should take it's time with the Balkan states. Rushing the Western Balkans will just make the EU weaker. However I hope that all the Western Balkan states will be in the EU by 2017.

I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did
---
To block Russia oout! See the map, now EU and NATO own all the EUROPE they want. Plus, they helped them in 1999 in Kosova.

Serbia offers no such geopol reasons

In 5-7 years, aside from Serbs becoming demoralized with the prospects of membership, the EU will be more redundant through dependancy on RUS to the point that joining it won't matter much b.c BRIC will be the better option, these 5-7 years are the time it'll take for RUS to subvert Brussels' pro-US bureaucrats, whose mind-games are something SRS will capitalize on at the expense of Tadic & especially Nikolic a la 'I told you so' - once a vindicated Seselj returns from the Hague in 2010.

“We want Europe to really be Europe, and that will not be possible without Serbia,”

We also want Europe to really be Europe, but that is not possible with EU members acting like barbarians.

Yahoooo!

Only 5 more years sitting on our hands then we all suddenly will become instant MILLIONAIRES!

EU is a Sendero luminoso, a shining path to wealth and luxury for everybody, heaven on earth!

However I hope that all the Western Balkan states will be in the EU by 2017.
(Ian, UK, 26 December 2009 15:44)

No way for Albania and Kosovo. We don't need more of those criminals here in UK. Look at what they did to us: drugs, killings, assassinations, organised prostitution. Just name any crime, Albanians are leaders. They treat women like dirt, they don't have respect for our values.

"The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics." (T Payne)

-- Yep, that's pretty much the only reason: to keep Russia out, even though Russia has claimed it has no interests as far as the EU goes (outside the former USSR boundaries). Besdies, they still hold Europe where it hurts whenever gas is concerned.

As far as the claim of Serbia not having any geopolitical interests to EU, that's a false statement. With or without Kosovo, Serbia's geographic position in SE Europe is vital for the entire regions' integration with the EU. With the possible exception of Athens, there is no other urban center in the Balkans that has as stragetic an economic or political position as Belgrade. The longer Serbia is left out, the longer the entire region is left out.

Hope Serbia WITH KOSOVO will join asap.

No way for Albania and Kosovo. We don't need more of those criminals here in UK. Look at what they did to us: drugs, killings, assassinations, organised prostitution. Just name any crime, Albanians are leaders. They treat women like dirt, they don't have respect for our values.
(Griffin, 27 December 2009 14:15)

What? Wait a minute here. The leader of crime I would say is those who murder people. Selling some drugs is no crime compared to murder innocent people including children and women. When it comes to the womens I cannot talk about somebody elses women but mine is treated like a diamond. And she deserves it because our albanin women are the best in the world.


But anyway Kosovo is independent so you can talk how much you want. it dosen't matter anymore because nobody in the world belives your propganda anymore.

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more
(Kosova-USA, 26 December 2009 15:17)
THis is one time I agree with this poster.I hope 5-7 is a typo and the diplomat really meant 57yrs.
God bless sovereign Serbia.

Thank you EU official for the best Christmas present thus far. That is more than enough time for the changing of the guards both locally and globally, and for the Serbian people to plan and prepare for their next strategic move. That Chinese bu shi in Copenhagen the other day and *PUTINMAN* net in Germany to Western dominance, are clear signs that the Serbian people wont be celebrating and "dancing with a bunch of drunken sailors on a sinkin' ship"
.

it´s much easier: NEVER !!!

not in 7 nor in 700 years ...

it´s much easier: NEVER !!!

not in 7 nor in 700 years ...
(raso

I agree. Not just because its easier it's also realistic. From both sides a lot is unknown. We dont know what our next government will be about. Nobody knows it even if hard work and lots of money come from abroad so there's a kind of stability. There's also things like war reparations and persecution of war criminals from Eu countries that attacked us in 99, and withdrawing of recognitions of the secessionist-terrorists. It will be impossible to join. And anyway people only want it for the money and look at Romania and Bulgaria they make less than we do. So no point except for propaganda and elections and so on.

Hopefully more like 5 years short of any bumps in the road. Serbia's genocide suit against Croatia might mean the Croats not sharing with Serbia all their hard work on translating the acquis communautaire into the local lingo.

As for Serbia being in a strategic position in the Balkans, I suggest Mr. 'Reality hits hard' picks up a map and has a good look - it is the shortest route and hence the cheapest for the transport of goods etc. etc.

Ian, I have to agree with you here. There seems to be this unofficial competition among nationalists as to who's country-that-they-currently-don't-live-in gets into the EU first. If it takes 5 - 7 years for Serbia to properly and easily enter the EU, then so be it. I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did. Look at how the EU is having a hard time digesting them. No, best to do it right, so the institutions of each state are fully optimized before integration. I have full faith that once Serbia enters, it will be the economic, political, and geographic powerhouse of Southeastern Europe.

The EU and Serbias entry into it doesnt matter. Like all things in this world, the EU will not last and in the greater view of things matters very little.

What matters is that my ancestral homeland of Serbia follow a true path - Serbia can play a great role in developing what realy matters-world peace and the end of the abomination of war.

PEACE

'I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did.'
(Mike, 26 December 2009 17:47)

The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics.
T Payne

In that case Albania must be really backward since its in NATO but not the EU.

'I still question Brussels' logic in accepting Romania and Bulgaria when they did.'
(Mike, 26 December 2009 17:47)

The logic is simple - NATO geopolitics rather than EU economics.

5-7 years = 15-17 years or more
(Kosova-USA, 26 December 2009 15:17)

Here is something fresh off the press for you Albanians who think nothing has changed since the 1990s, next April that announcement will be down to 3 years, by September another press statement will be made that Serbia will be accepted in 2012. Print this and keep it for future reference so that you can come back and tell me I received wrong information.
Oh! bye the way, Russia’s conditions to help NATO in Afghanistan is being discussed at the moment and there is a majority in favour of accepting them. You see, the US strongly objects, but is in no position to refuse that help. What does that mean for the Albanians in Kosovo, well not too good for you guys, your US allies are about to sell you out.

Five years for Croatia, seven years for the other ex-yugo republics.Bosnia might need more time because of their internal problems.