Tadić: Candidate status in 2010

You also implemented these policies, including cooperation with the international war crimes tribunal. That is a key thing which cemented the road to today’s candidacy application. Therefore, I congratulate you for what you have done in order for your country to progress,” he said

B92

The Swedish EU presidency is giving us the same BS reason for accepting Serbia's application for EU membership
as EU & NATO gave us for attacking Serbia.They've portrayed the Albanians as genocide victims and the whole Serbian nation as mass murderers.Therefore,they had to intervene by using humanitarian cluster Bombs with depleted uranium to protect to Albanian victims.

Co-operation with the war crimes tribunal was not the real condition for Serbia's entry into EU.If that was the case Croatia would've never had been accepted into EU.

The real EU entryconditition was Serbia's embracement of the world markets model and geopolitics.Thus the mass privatizations of public utilities in the last ten years and the mass closures of uneconomic entities.

"It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2009 13:13) "

And I suppose "Kosova" is joining the EU tomorrow, not to mention the UN.

"It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER." (Kosova-USA)

-- Serbia has good relations with all its neighbors. Since it doesn't recognize Kosovo as a "neighbors", nor is it forced to recognize Kosovo as such. Belgrade has a good cooperative relationship with EULEX and KFOR and that's all that really matters. You still seem to think Pristina has some authority to exert when time and again its authority has been either bypassed or simply ignored.

geopolitics"
It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2009 13:13

Wrong.By "geopolitics" i mean
the balkan energy corridors and also the Western attempts to diminish Russia's counter-influence in the balkans.

The last time i checked kosovo was still a province with status unresolved.UN resolution 1244 is still valid.

pez:

"And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil."

1. It is you albanians, mainly uck terrorists, who were doing the massacring!
2. Your soil is back in tirana with all the colorful buildings.

Today's 'Greeks' are mostly Orthodox Arabs. Your heroes are Albanian Arvanites. You were loyal serfs for 500 years until Albanians picked up the guns against the Turks.

Enough for now
(aRvaniTe, 23 December 2009 21:04)

Fancy that.Muslim Albanians fought against muslim Turks to liberate the Christan Greeks.

If you really believe that you also probably believe that Michael Jakson was Albanian too.

The real EU entryconditition was Serbia's embracement of the world markets model and geopolitics.Thus the mass privatizations of public utilities in the last ten years and the mass closures of uneconomic entities.
(Leonidas, 23 December 2009 11:34)

"geopolitics"
It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.

And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil. At the end if you would think clearly without any hatefulness you will understand that Serbia's choice to be a Russian satellite state was not in your best interest.
(fez, 23 December 2009

Fez

I know the Albanians will ally with the devil in order to get what they want.

You were allies to Ottoman Turks massacring the Christian populations in the balkans,with Mussolini against the Greeks in World war II and with the Germans in deporting thousands of Greek Jews to their gas chambers in Germany.

Tell me something i don't know so i can educate myself.

Fez, Bondsteel is on Serbian soil, not Albanian. Albanian soil is centered around Tirana.

Candidate status will be announced at the time when ICJ rules against Serbia

Tadic and Jeremic know very well that it's over, it's just a game to keep Serb nationalists a bit happy

All the euphoria of the Serbian government, how understandable it is, could be dampened at the time when the reality of European policy is at hand. Maybe it should listen better to the voices of other nations than Spain, Italy or Greece. In several comments for B92, published or not, I have expressed my skepticism about Serbians development. I couldn't find better arguments than this comment in the Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung of today.

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub7FC5BF30C45B402F96E964EF8CE790E1/Doc~E468457667785422EA9D87A9C779F9258~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

Translated into English:
Serbia at the door

By Günther Nonnenmacher
22. December 2009

In its effort to stabilize the Balkans after the Yugoslav wars of succession, the EU has promised the broken from the state of South Slavs emerged followers a "European perspective".
They will become members of the Union if they meet the criteria that were defined in 1993 at the Copenhagen Summit for future candidates: functioning democratic institutions, rule of law and respecting human rights. Slovenia, which was affected by the Balkan wars just beginning, has made the candidate quickly, Croatia is on the threshold, and now Serbia is knocking at the door.
The EU should think carefully about what they are there getting into. It is highly questionable whether Serbia meets the three criteria - not only in form but in substance. Symbolic of the Serbian constitutional defect is the inability or unwillingness to take more than the war crimes suspect General Mladi and extradite him to the international war crimes tribunal at The Hague.
Gloomy past, not at all "worked up"
It is not fundamentally about the person, but about the attitude, apparently to keep large parts of the population, important politicians and political parties (as well as the military) Mladi still a Serbian hero. The nationalistic fervor that has transformed the region into a battlefield, is not overcome, the gloomy past, not at all "worked up": To this day, has not the Belgrade Parliament to decide about an apology for war massacres.
A departure from the hyper-nationalism is certainly a necessary condition for membership in the EU. In this context, the Kosovo issue is one that is a mortgage on the relations between Serbia and the EU. That can solve problems of this nature within the Union is not necessarily easier to prove the example of Cyprus. The EU should avoid the need to import another international problem.
Finally, there is a fourth Copenhagen criterion: the ability of the EU. It is understood that the Union needs a longer period of consolidation - that apply to the extension, such as for the depression. And in the end is about whether the EU wants to be more than a zone of stability - namely, a more effective political player.

Text: F.A.Z.

Tadic, Serbia's Stabilization and Association Agreement must be unfrozen and ratified before Serbia can obtain EU candidate status.

If Serbia begins accession negotiations with the EU in 2011 Serbia will be prepared to join the EU in 2018.

The accession negotiations with the EU are not easy. After the negotiations are finished, the Accession Treaty must be ratified by the parliaments of all EU Member States.

Just look at Croatia. Croatia started accession negotiations with the EU in 2005 and will probably join the EU in 2012.

Leonidas why do you think the whole world is against Serbia? I mean of course Americans didn't care that much about the Albanian victims, but a military base in Balkans to stop both Arabs of entering Europe and to stop Russia to gain access to Adriatic sea are very good reasons. And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil. At the end if you would think clearly without any hatefulness you will understand that Serbia's choice to be a Russian satellite state was not in your best interest.

Tell me something i don't know so i can educate myself.
--
Today's 'Greeks' are mostly Orthodox Arabs. Your heroes are Albanian Arvanites. You were loyal serfs for 500 years until Albanians picked up the guns against the Turks.

Your Church leaders paid the Turks to be selected and supported them.

Enough for now.

QuasiStates and Leonidas. there is no bigger devil than Serbia, at least for us Albanians. Remeber Alexander was a hero for the macedonians but a ruthless conqueror for Asia, as yours Milosevic. And for ur info. massgraves containing Albanians victims were found in areas round beograd. Dont ask me about links and stuff, google it up!!

"Serbia must meet the following criteria before it can enter the E.U.
Recognise Kosova. Publicy denounce support for a breakaway RS. Pay millions to Croatia and BiH for the mess it caused during the early 90's.Give the Hungarians and Muslims larger portions of autonomy where the are a majority ( Vojvodina - Sandjak ). Capture and hand over war criminals Mladic, Hadzic and Kadijevic. Clamp down on corruption and Mafia activities etc. etc. Serbia has a long way to go before it can even think about joining the E.U. 'You would be better off if you stick with Russia".
(HB, 25 December 2009 14:05) "

And who are you to dictate terms to the EU?

Serbia does have a long way more to go before EU membership, not that I think it is a good idea for Belgrade to join the EU in any case. But for "Kosova", I can confidently say that it is a case of never. Pristina can't even get UN membership, let alone the EU. All 27 EU members are recognized UN members by the way.

All these fast "achievements" have to have a high political price for Serbia while they have their benefits at the same time.

EU and Serbia are compromising on the future. Each giving and taking something from each other at the same time. The EU is giving and Serbia receiving now, but the course of action will reverse on the opposite in the future. We will have to see what will give up Serbia.

Serbia must meet the following criteria before it can enter the E.U.
Recognise Kosova. Publicy denounce support for a breakaway RS. Pay millions to Croatia and BiH for the mess it caused during the early 90's.Give the Hungarians and Muslims larger portions of autonomy where the are a majority ( Vojvodina - Sandjak ). Capture and hand over war criminals Mladic, Hadzic and Kadijevic. Clamp down on corruption and Mafia activities etc. etc. Serbia has a long way to go before it can even think about joining the E.U. 'You would be better off if you stick with Russia".

The real EU entryconditition was Serbia's embracement of the world markets model and geopolitics.Thus the mass privatizations of public utilities in the last ten years and the mass closures of uneconomic entities.
(Leonidas, 23 December 2009 11:34)

"geopolitics"
It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.

Leonidas why do you think the whole world is against Serbia? I mean of course Americans didn't care that much about the Albanian victims, but a military base in Balkans to stop both Arabs of entering Europe and to stop Russia to gain access to Adriatic sea are very good reasons. And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil. At the end if you would think clearly without any hatefulness you will understand that Serbia's choice to be a Russian satellite state was not in your best interest.

Tadic, Serbia's Stabilization and Association Agreement must be unfrozen and ratified before Serbia can obtain EU candidate status.

If Serbia begins accession negotiations with the EU in 2011 Serbia will be prepared to join the EU in 2018.

The accession negotiations with the EU are not easy. After the negotiations are finished, the Accession Treaty must be ratified by the parliaments of all EU Member States.

Just look at Croatia. Croatia started accession negotiations with the EU in 2005 and will probably join the EU in 2012.

Tell me something i don't know so i can educate myself.
--
Today's 'Greeks' are mostly Orthodox Arabs. Your heroes are Albanian Arvanites. You were loyal serfs for 500 years until Albanians picked up the guns against the Turks.

Your Church leaders paid the Turks to be selected and supported them.

Enough for now.

QuasiStates and Leonidas. there is no bigger devil than Serbia, at least for us Albanians. Remeber Alexander was a hero for the macedonians but a ruthless conqueror for Asia, as yours Milosevic. And for ur info. massgraves containing Albanians victims were found in areas round beograd. Dont ask me about links and stuff, google it up!!

All the euphoria of the Serbian government, how understandable it is, could be dampened at the time when the reality of European policy is at hand. Maybe it should listen better to the voices of other nations than Spain, Italy or Greece. In several comments for B92, published or not, I have expressed my skepticism about Serbians development. I couldn't find better arguments than this comment in the Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung of today.

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub7FC5BF30C45B402F96E964EF8CE790E1/Doc~E468457667785422EA9D87A9C779F9258~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

Translated into English:
Serbia at the door

By Günther Nonnenmacher
22. December 2009

In its effort to stabilize the Balkans after the Yugoslav wars of succession, the EU has promised the broken from the state of South Slavs emerged followers a "European perspective".
They will become members of the Union if they meet the criteria that were defined in 1993 at the Copenhagen Summit for future candidates: functioning democratic institutions, rule of law and respecting human rights. Slovenia, which was affected by the Balkan wars just beginning, has made the candidate quickly, Croatia is on the threshold, and now Serbia is knocking at the door.
The EU should think carefully about what they are there getting into. It is highly questionable whether Serbia meets the three criteria - not only in form but in substance. Symbolic of the Serbian constitutional defect is the inability or unwillingness to take more than the war crimes suspect General Mladi and extradite him to the international war crimes tribunal at The Hague.
Gloomy past, not at all "worked up"
It is not fundamentally about the person, but about the attitude, apparently to keep large parts of the population, important politicians and political parties (as well as the military) Mladi still a Serbian hero. The nationalistic fervor that has transformed the region into a battlefield, is not overcome, the gloomy past, not at all "worked up": To this day, has not the Belgrade Parliament to decide about an apology for war massacres.
A departure from the hyper-nationalism is certainly a necessary condition for membership in the EU. In this context, the Kosovo issue is one that is a mortgage on the relations between Serbia and the EU. That can solve problems of this nature within the Union is not necessarily easier to prove the example of Cyprus. The EU should avoid the need to import another international problem.
Finally, there is a fourth Copenhagen criterion: the ability of the EU. It is understood that the Union needs a longer period of consolidation - that apply to the extension, such as for the depression. And in the end is about whether the EU wants to be more than a zone of stability - namely, a more effective political player.

Text: F.A.Z.

And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil. At the end if you would think clearly without any hatefulness you will understand that Serbia's choice to be a Russian satellite state was not in your best interest.
(fez, 23 December 2009

Fez

I know the Albanians will ally with the devil in order to get what they want.

You were allies to Ottoman Turks massacring the Christian populations in the balkans,with Mussolini against the Greeks in World war II and with the Germans in deporting thousands of Greek Jews to their gas chambers in Germany.

Tell me something i don't know so i can educate myself.

Candidate status will be announced at the time when ICJ rules against Serbia

Tadic and Jeremic know very well that it's over, it's just a game to keep Serb nationalists a bit happy

"It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2009 13:13) "

And I suppose "Kosova" is joining the EU tomorrow, not to mention the UN.

"It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER." (Kosova-USA)

-- Serbia has good relations with all its neighbors. Since it doesn't recognize Kosovo as a "neighbors", nor is it forced to recognize Kosovo as such. Belgrade has a good cooperative relationship with EULEX and KFOR and that's all that really matters. You still seem to think Pristina has some authority to exert when time and again its authority has been either bypassed or simply ignored.

pez:

"And of course we Albanians will make a deal with any one who saves us from death and massacres in exchange of allowing a military base on our soil."

1. It is you albanians, mainly uck terrorists, who were doing the massacring!
2. Your soil is back in tirana with all the colorful buildings.

You also implemented these policies, including cooperation with the international war crimes tribunal. That is a key thing which cemented the road to today’s candidacy application. Therefore, I congratulate you for what you have done in order for your country to progress,” he said

B92

The Swedish EU presidency is giving us the same BS reason for accepting Serbia's application for EU membership
as EU & NATO gave us for attacking Serbia.They've portrayed the Albanians as genocide victims and the whole Serbian nation as mass murderers.Therefore,they had to intervene by using humanitarian cluster Bombs with depleted uranium to protect to Albanian victims.

Co-operation with the war crimes tribunal was not the real condition for Serbia's entry into EU.If that was the case Croatia would've never had been accepted into EU.

The real EU entryconditition was Serbia's embracement of the world markets model and geopolitics.Thus the mass privatizations of public utilities in the last ten years and the mass closures of uneconomic entities.

geopolitics"
It means to have good relation with your neighbors,including Kosova. Otherwise, no EU NOW,TOMORROW OR EVER.
(Kosova-USA, 23 December 2009 13:13

Wrong.By "geopolitics" i mean
the balkan energy corridors and also the Western attempts to diminish Russia's counter-influence in the balkans.

The last time i checked kosovo was still a province with status unresolved.UN resolution 1244 is still valid.

Fez, Bondsteel is on Serbian soil, not Albanian. Albanian soil is centered around Tirana.

Today's 'Greeks' are mostly Orthodox Arabs. Your heroes are Albanian Arvanites. You were loyal serfs for 500 years until Albanians picked up the guns against the Turks.

Enough for now
(aRvaniTe, 23 December 2009 21:04)

Fancy that.Muslim Albanians fought against muslim Turks to liberate the Christan Greeks.

If you really believe that you also probably believe that Michael Jakson was Albanian too.

Serbia must meet the following criteria before it can enter the E.U.
Recognise Kosova. Publicy denounce support for a breakaway RS. Pay millions to Croatia and BiH for the mess it caused during the early 90's.Give the Hungarians and Muslims larger portions of autonomy where the are a majority ( Vojvodina - Sandjak ). Capture and hand over war criminals Mladic, Hadzic and Kadijevic. Clamp down on corruption and Mafia activities etc. etc. Serbia has a long way to go before it can even think about joining the E.U. 'You would be better off if you stick with Russia".

All these fast "achievements" have to have a high political price for Serbia while they have their benefits at the same time.

EU and Serbia are compromising on the future. Each giving and taking something from each other at the same time. The EU is giving and Serbia receiving now, but the course of action will reverse on the opposite in the future. We will have to see what will give up Serbia.

"Serbia must meet the following criteria before it can enter the E.U.
Recognise Kosova. Publicy denounce support for a breakaway RS. Pay millions to Croatia and BiH for the mess it caused during the early 90's.Give the Hungarians and Muslims larger portions of autonomy where the are a majority ( Vojvodina - Sandjak ). Capture and hand over war criminals Mladic, Hadzic and Kadijevic. Clamp down on corruption and Mafia activities etc. etc. Serbia has a long way to go before it can even think about joining the E.U. 'You would be better off if you stick with Russia".
(HB, 25 December 2009 14:05) "

And who are you to dictate terms to the EU?

Serbia does have a long way more to go before EU membership, not that I think it is a good idea for Belgrade to join the EU in any case. But for "Kosova", I can confidently say that it is a case of never. Pristina can't even get UN membership, let alone the EU. All 27 EU members are recognized UN members by the way.