Vukčević, Marty on Kosovo organ trade case

Kosova-USA:
> If you want to call a small shagy house a building , than this case equels that so called building of yours, which was never a building.

House looks big enough to me: http://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/about/

Oh, & dictionary definition of a 'house' is: 1. a building in which people live; residence for human beings.

Of course if the allegations are true (as seems likely), then strictly speaking, the 'yellow house' doesn't meet the latter qualification.

> Can you tell us anything rather then a nonsense statemant.

Frequently wonder, although wouldn't be too hard on yourself.. must get something right every now & again - million monkeys etc.


aRta
> Stating lies as a fact. How about some proof B92? Proof

Yet another in sore need of a dictionary.

Here's your extract in context 'aRta':
"The prosecution last year started an investigation into allegations that ethnic Albanians, members of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), in 1999 kidnapped hundreds of Kosovo Serb and other non-Albanian civilians in the province.
The victims were then taken to northern Albania where their vital organs were removed to be sold in the black market. "

Note the word 'allegations'.

And I seriously doubt that you would welcome any 'proof', even if it was categorical.

In the event that you do, then all you need is some patience - for it will come out eventually.

Relax, Albanian nationalists. These horrific crimes committed by the KLA, in partnership with Albania, will be proven in time, and at the right place. Maybe the Serbian prosecution should present the evidence to arta and Kosovo-US first, to make sure that it's legitimate? The K_Albanian terrorist UCK, is going DOWN!

Voices of dead are not always silent and horrors they had to endure are coming to on end.
Congrats to Vukcevic and his team for relentless hunt for truth.

Unimaginable crimes committed by uck terrorists! And they were funded and supported by american government... they were also the PR for uck terrorists. What a disgrace!

Proof?

Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEE4uzWgPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYuTpos6AQ

I say to all the Albanians here protesting about this investigation to relax.
If there is no proof an investigation will not hurt you so whay are you so against this investigation?

Only the guilty don't want an investigation. This much is obvious so you must think that there could be some truth to this or you would't protest so hard.

In any case, we don't care how much you protest, the investigation will go on and will show just what your heroes like Thaci did or ordered to do.

I was just reading in yesterday's paper how Israeli army just admitted of doing the same thing. They were harvesting corneas from deceased people including some of their own and using them for transplants. I wonder if the west is worried that Alabanian illegal organ harvesting will be shown to the world as fact and they are trying to minimise the impact of that with stories like the one about the Israelis.
This was in the Herald Sun in Melbourne.

The victims were then taken to northern Albania where their vital organs were removed to be sold in the black market.
---
Stating lies as a fact. How about some proof B92? Proof

Vukčević informed Marty about the latest findings of his office in the Kosovo organ trade case, the prosecution said in a statement in Belgrade on Tuesday.

What was the latest finding Mr. Prosecutor??? Can you tell us anything rather then a nonsense statemant.



The case is known informally as the Yellow House, after a building in northern Albania where the organ extraction is believed to have taken place.

If you want to call a small shagy house a building , than this case equels that so called building of yours, which was never a building.

Huh..
Huge difference-story in Israel is about already dead soldiers,albanians cherry picked young healty Serbians for organs trade.
Only sick would find parallel between this two stories.
(lids, 22 December 2009 22:29)

You're right about the difference, but since when has anything decent or indecent stopped the western propaganda?
I don't agree that organ harvesting from Serbs should fade into the back pages of some newspaper because of Israel issues. All I am saying is that it will be tried.

I haven't included any links to this story so here are some:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/israel-admits-harvesting-body-parts-without-permission/story-e6frg6so-1225812566850

Here is another story from Herlad Sun in which Israel denies this:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/minister-accuses-israel-of-organ-theft/story-e6frf7k6-1225770843168

In any case looks like these sort of stories will be flooding our papers so the Albanians taking Serbian organs will not have as much impact.

"Unimaginable crimes committed by uck terrorists! And they were funded and supported by american government... they were also the PR for uck terrorists. What a disgrace!
(Ratko, 22 December 2009 16:34)"

Ratko take it easy, there is not even one single proof, all i see is what people "want" to believe and yet there is no proof about anything.

Marry X-mass to all from Scandinavia.

Want some Proof..???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0

Serb secret officers ,offering money (60 to 70 thousands euros ) to lie about the yellow house..

That's how your government and your state works and exists.



How much proof do you need ??!!

No proof, all lies.

In any case looks like these sort of stories will be flooding our papers so the Albanians taking Serbian organs will not have as much impact.
(Peggy, 22 December 2009 21:17)
Huh..
Huge difference-story in Israel is about already dead soldiers,albanians cherry picked young healty Serbians for organs trade.
Only sick would find parallel between this two stories.

Peggy,

Israeli perhaps harvested organs of the Palestinians, but they were already dead.

Albanians kept people locked in the cellar and unlocked the door when they needed to butcher them for their organs.

One has to draw a strict line there, that is why Albanian crimes are compared to organization of dr. Mengele.

I saw the movie "The Road" in which there is a horrific scene that made me think of the "Yellow House" in Albania where KLA held the imprisoned Serb civilians:

A bunch of cannibals hunted/imprisoned a number of people. Every day they would drag someone out to chop off their limbs for 'dinner'. After that they would be returned to the cellar (if still alive.

I wouldn't recommend nobody with a faint heart to see this movie.

Where does a prosecutor appear on TV every week, for a couple of months, and talk about one single case without providing any new evidence. Which prosecution talks with international politicians about a case where there is not even an indictment !!??

We have new wittnes, we have new facts, we have new videos, we have new fotos, we believe we have something new, bla, bla, bla. There was never anything new after sooooo many press conferences during the last few months, we know that now.

My friends, no matter if you are Serbs or Albanians, I do not know if there is any true in this case, but I KNOW, and this is very obvious, that what Serbian prosecutor is doing is not investigation, it is called propaganda !!

This is simply unthinkable in a normal country and a serious media such as B92 should not play that game.

Isn´t it interesting that this yellow house story always pops-up in certain moments. Example ICJ just ended yellow house pops-up. Hague trial against Serbian officials, yellow house pops-up. Mass grave found within Serbia, yellow house pops-up. Serbia being told its not cooperating with the Hague, yellow house pops-up, Kosova joins IMF and World Bank, yellow house pops-up. The difference is that while all the rest has been proved and its actual and factual the political ploy called yellow house is just thrown around to brainwash Serbian masses into believing that Serbia is not the only bad guy, that Serbia has something under its sleeve, that Serbia can counteract. By the looks of it the masses here on B92 buy it everytime. Anyways expect this yellow house to pop-up again when ICJ delivers its verdict. There will be other times when Serbia politically is not doing that good and the yellow house will all of a sudden pop-up again.

Hello, there was an investigation already. Armchair investigators from Belgrade don't like what it did not find hence we have this.
What about those paid by Belgrade secret services to make up stories about yellow houses. They were caught in the act and recorded while doing it. That doesn't mean anything?

Veki, it's a horrible, horroble crime and I hope that the guilty and exposed and appropriately punished.

You're right, it is something out of a horror movie except worse because it happened.
I only hope that they don't find a way to minimise it or worse don't report it at all in most media.

Kosova-USA:
Here's that picture of the 'yellow house' again, just in case you missed it below: http://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/about/


Pan:
> How much proof do you need ??!!

All I see is two men speaking serbian. Serbs? Albanians?

And given that it is the KLA against whom these allegations have been made & that is the KPS who were responsible for this 'proof' & that the KPS is largely made up of ex-KLA. one can only wonder as to whether this was fabricated in order to take some of the heat off the K-albanians due to the recent coverage in the western press.

Tell me 'Pan', what other 'evidence' have your intrepid KLA.. er, KPS come up with apart from 3 names? Has been nearly 6 months now so one would think that there must have been some progress on this 'case' given it's importance to K-albanians.

Waiting in breathless anticipation...


Denis:
> It is a great way to divert attention.

Seems to me it is you who are trying to divert attention.

Subject is allegations that albanians were responsible for literally butchering from 100 to 300 kidnapped people (mostly serb, but including K-albanian 'collaborators' & others) for the black market trade in body parts.

And if true, a crime so dark, it's like has not been seen in Europe since WWII & the barbarity of Mengele.

The innocent have nothing to fear, but the guilty will do whatever they can to avoid being found out.

And albanians have been blocking these investigations since day 1.

I think Albania has been compounding the effect of this 'shock and awe'information strategy that Belgrade has put into effect. Considering the gravity of the accusations it should have been more open to anyone wishing to 'investigate'. There's ZERO evidence of human DNA recovered from the 'Yellow House', and therefore the 'shock' would have turned into 'yawn'.

I think all pros andcons should watch the link from Pan. Clear evidence from KP recording of Serb Agents offering sums of money for others to makeup stories.

I wonder why this desperate attempt by Albanians to stop or discredit this investigation.

Only the guilty have something to fear from an investigation.

If you are innocent then you can say I told you so.
So if you are innocent you will be the winner in the end and if I were Albanian and sure that I am innocent I would want and encourage this investigation.

It seems quite the opposite for our Albanians here.

I don't think that Albanians should be suprised of these attacks. It is well know strategy used by Serbia to cover its own shame and mass murdering crimes they are so well known for in the Balkans.

It is a great way to divert attention.

We all know who the real criminals and mass murderers were in the Balkans, from Croatia to Bosnia to Kosovo. Mass graves of K-Alb were found all the way to Belgrade. All you have to do is take a look at Hague proceedings and indicements.

As always a low blow from Serbia, which I believe makes things worse, but in the end Serbia never did anything to make things better in the region.

That is why K-Alb shall never give up their stance on independence, otherwise Serbia one day will use these accusations for a payback, and mass graves will be a common thing in Kosovo once again.

#Peter sydney
All I see is two men speaking serbian. Serbs? Albanians?


They're Serbs.....allready behind the bars,..i personaly know people involved in this case.

"They're Serbs.....allready behind the bars,..i personaly know people involved in this case.
(blunt, 23 December 2009 22:13) "

Lot's of 'if's here mate..

If you're (albanian?) being truthful..
if so, are the people you know (albanian?) lying..
if one of the 'accused' really is a serb..
and if so were the other two..
if 1 or more were, were they also co-erced &/or paid in a set up..
& if not, was this an attempt to bolster an actual 'organ trafficking' case or a ficticious case.

On the other hand, if the KPS/KLA fabricated this little sting, then that would certainly explain why there has been no follow-up 6 months after the event.

Still waiting with bated breath...

Ok everyone has to take seriously allegation for anything till they are proved but if not is true albanians they will never let serbia escaped without being sued for lies in this case for MILLIONS of EU and other think if serbs come forward with anything first they has to come will information where are thousands of albanian body's buried in serbia and why they were send there first of all and what happen with they BODY'S ANYONE ......

Mr Vukcevic, get started with a factious novel; it will drive crazy Stephen King. I must admit he is incomparably flabbiness comparing to you and your imagination. However, you are supposed to come up and make clear to the atrocities that have been made clear long ago, let start with Batajnica, Krusha e Madhe, and so on and so one. So your concept is so weird that any further elaboration on this issue is more than sufficient.
Shame on you, and all those who dare to commit sacrilege against thousand of innocent bodies laying into mass graves. If there is GOD (and It is, with no doubt), you should think twice before coming up with such nonsense assertions, while trying to conceal atrocities with this rubbish of alleged fictions.

"Unimaginable crimes committed by uck terrorists! And they were funded and supported by american government... they were also the PR for uck terrorists. What a disgrace!
(Ratko, 22 December 2009 16:34)"

Ratko take it easy, there is not even one single proof, all i see is what people "want" to believe and yet there is no proof about anything.

Marry X-mass to all from Scandinavia.

Vukčević informed Marty about the latest findings of his office in the Kosovo organ trade case, the prosecution said in a statement in Belgrade on Tuesday.

What was the latest finding Mr. Prosecutor??? Can you tell us anything rather then a nonsense statemant.



The case is known informally as the Yellow House, after a building in northern Albania where the organ extraction is believed to have taken place.

If you want to call a small shagy house a building , than this case equels that so called building of yours, which was never a building.

The victims were then taken to northern Albania where their vital organs were removed to be sold in the black market.
---
Stating lies as a fact. How about some proof B92? Proof

No proof, all lies.

Where does a prosecutor appear on TV every week, for a couple of months, and talk about one single case without providing any new evidence. Which prosecution talks with international politicians about a case where there is not even an indictment !!??

We have new wittnes, we have new facts, we have new videos, we have new fotos, we believe we have something new, bla, bla, bla. There was never anything new after sooooo many press conferences during the last few months, we know that now.

My friends, no matter if you are Serbs or Albanians, I do not know if there is any true in this case, but I KNOW, and this is very obvious, that what Serbian prosecutor is doing is not investigation, it is called propaganda !!

This is simply unthinkable in a normal country and a serious media such as B92 should not play that game.

Isn´t it interesting that this yellow house story always pops-up in certain moments. Example ICJ just ended yellow house pops-up. Hague trial against Serbian officials, yellow house pops-up. Mass grave found within Serbia, yellow house pops-up. Serbia being told its not cooperating with the Hague, yellow house pops-up, Kosova joins IMF and World Bank, yellow house pops-up. The difference is that while all the rest has been proved and its actual and factual the political ploy called yellow house is just thrown around to brainwash Serbian masses into believing that Serbia is not the only bad guy, that Serbia has something under its sleeve, that Serbia can counteract. By the looks of it the masses here on B92 buy it everytime. Anyways expect this yellow house to pop-up again when ICJ delivers its verdict. There will be other times when Serbia politically is not doing that good and the yellow house will all of a sudden pop-up again.

Kosova-USA:
> If you want to call a small shagy house a building , than this case equels that so called building of yours, which was never a building.

House looks big enough to me: http://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/about/

Oh, & dictionary definition of a 'house' is: 1. a building in which people live; residence for human beings.

Of course if the allegations are true (as seems likely), then strictly speaking, the 'yellow house' doesn't meet the latter qualification.

> Can you tell us anything rather then a nonsense statemant.

Frequently wonder, although wouldn't be too hard on yourself.. must get something right every now & again - million monkeys etc.


aRta
> Stating lies as a fact. How about some proof B92? Proof

Yet another in sore need of a dictionary.

Here's your extract in context 'aRta':
"The prosecution last year started an investigation into allegations that ethnic Albanians, members of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), in 1999 kidnapped hundreds of Kosovo Serb and other non-Albanian civilians in the province.
The victims were then taken to northern Albania where their vital organs were removed to be sold in the black market. "

Note the word 'allegations'.

And I seriously doubt that you would welcome any 'proof', even if it was categorical.

In the event that you do, then all you need is some patience - for it will come out eventually.

Unimaginable crimes committed by uck terrorists! And they were funded and supported by american government... they were also the PR for uck terrorists. What a disgrace!

Relax, Albanian nationalists. These horrific crimes committed by the KLA, in partnership with Albania, will be proven in time, and at the right place. Maybe the Serbian prosecution should present the evidence to arta and Kosovo-US first, to make sure that it's legitimate? The K_Albanian terrorist UCK, is going DOWN!

Want some Proof..???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0

Serb secret officers ,offering money (60 to 70 thousands euros ) to lie about the yellow house..

That's how your government and your state works and exists.



How much proof do you need ??!!

Hello, there was an investigation already. Armchair investigators from Belgrade don't like what it did not find hence we have this.
What about those paid by Belgrade secret services to make up stories about yellow houses. They were caught in the act and recorded while doing it. That doesn't mean anything?

I think all pros andcons should watch the link from Pan. Clear evidence from KP recording of Serb Agents offering sums of money for others to makeup stories.

Voices of dead are not always silent and horrors they had to endure are coming to on end.
Congrats to Vukcevic and his team for relentless hunt for truth.

I haven't included any links to this story so here are some:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/israel-admits-harvesting-body-parts-without-permission/story-e6frg6so-1225812566850

Here is another story from Herlad Sun in which Israel denies this:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/minister-accuses-israel-of-organ-theft/story-e6frf7k6-1225770843168

In any case looks like these sort of stories will be flooding our papers so the Albanians taking Serbian organs will not have as much impact.

I don't think that Albanians should be suprised of these attacks. It is well know strategy used by Serbia to cover its own shame and mass murdering crimes they are so well known for in the Balkans.

It is a great way to divert attention.

We all know who the real criminals and mass murderers were in the Balkans, from Croatia to Bosnia to Kosovo. Mass graves of K-Alb were found all the way to Belgrade. All you have to do is take a look at Hague proceedings and indicements.

As always a low blow from Serbia, which I believe makes things worse, but in the end Serbia never did anything to make things better in the region.

That is why K-Alb shall never give up their stance on independence, otherwise Serbia one day will use these accusations for a payback, and mass graves will be a common thing in Kosovo once again.

I say to all the Albanians here protesting about this investigation to relax.
If there is no proof an investigation will not hurt you so whay are you so against this investigation?

Only the guilty don't want an investigation. This much is obvious so you must think that there could be some truth to this or you would't protest so hard.

In any case, we don't care how much you protest, the investigation will go on and will show just what your heroes like Thaci did or ordered to do.

I was just reading in yesterday's paper how Israeli army just admitted of doing the same thing. They were harvesting corneas from deceased people including some of their own and using them for transplants. I wonder if the west is worried that Alabanian illegal organ harvesting will be shown to the world as fact and they are trying to minimise the impact of that with stories like the one about the Israelis.
This was in the Herald Sun in Melbourne.

I think Albania has been compounding the effect of this 'shock and awe'information strategy that Belgrade has put into effect. Considering the gravity of the accusations it should have been more open to anyone wishing to 'investigate'. There's ZERO evidence of human DNA recovered from the 'Yellow House', and therefore the 'shock' would have turned into 'yawn'.

Huh..
Huge difference-story in Israel is about already dead soldiers,albanians cherry picked young healty Serbians for organs trade.
Only sick would find parallel between this two stories.
(lids, 22 December 2009 22:29)

You're right about the difference, but since when has anything decent or indecent stopped the western propaganda?
I don't agree that organ harvesting from Serbs should fade into the back pages of some newspaper because of Israel issues. All I am saying is that it will be tried.

Proof?

Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEE4uzWgPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYuTpos6AQ

Mr Vukcevic, get started with a factious novel; it will drive crazy Stephen King. I must admit he is incomparably flabbiness comparing to you and your imagination. However, you are supposed to come up and make clear to the atrocities that have been made clear long ago, let start with Batajnica, Krusha e Madhe, and so on and so one. So your concept is so weird that any further elaboration on this issue is more than sufficient.
Shame on you, and all those who dare to commit sacrilege against thousand of innocent bodies laying into mass graves. If there is GOD (and It is, with no doubt), you should think twice before coming up with such nonsense assertions, while trying to conceal atrocities with this rubbish of alleged fictions.

In any case looks like these sort of stories will be flooding our papers so the Albanians taking Serbian organs will not have as much impact.
(Peggy, 22 December 2009 21:17)
Huh..
Huge difference-story in Israel is about already dead soldiers,albanians cherry picked young healty Serbians for organs trade.
Only sick would find parallel between this two stories.

I wonder why this desperate attempt by Albanians to stop or discredit this investigation.

Only the guilty have something to fear from an investigation.

If you are innocent then you can say I told you so.
So if you are innocent you will be the winner in the end and if I were Albanian and sure that I am innocent I would want and encourage this investigation.

It seems quite the opposite for our Albanians here.

Veki, it's a horrible, horroble crime and I hope that the guilty and exposed and appropriately punished.

You're right, it is something out of a horror movie except worse because it happened.
I only hope that they don't find a way to minimise it or worse don't report it at all in most media.

#Peter sydney
All I see is two men speaking serbian. Serbs? Albanians?


They're Serbs.....allready behind the bars,..i personaly know people involved in this case.

Kosova-USA:
Here's that picture of the 'yellow house' again, just in case you missed it below: http://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/about/


Pan:
> How much proof do you need ??!!

All I see is two men speaking serbian. Serbs? Albanians?

And given that it is the KLA against whom these allegations have been made & that is the KPS who were responsible for this 'proof' & that the KPS is largely made up of ex-KLA. one can only wonder as to whether this was fabricated in order to take some of the heat off the K-albanians due to the recent coverage in the western press.

Tell me 'Pan', what other 'evidence' have your intrepid KLA.. er, KPS come up with apart from 3 names? Has been nearly 6 months now so one would think that there must have been some progress on this 'case' given it's importance to K-albanians.

Waiting in breathless anticipation...


Denis:
> It is a great way to divert attention.

Seems to me it is you who are trying to divert attention.

Subject is allegations that albanians were responsible for literally butchering from 100 to 300 kidnapped people (mostly serb, but including K-albanian 'collaborators' & others) for the black market trade in body parts.

And if true, a crime so dark, it's like has not been seen in Europe since WWII & the barbarity of Mengele.

The innocent have nothing to fear, but the guilty will do whatever they can to avoid being found out.

And albanians have been blocking these investigations since day 1.

Ok everyone has to take seriously allegation for anything till they are proved but if not is true albanians they will never let serbia escaped without being sued for lies in this case for MILLIONS of EU and other think if serbs come forward with anything first they has to come will information where are thousands of albanian body's buried in serbia and why they were send there first of all and what happen with they BODY'S ANYONE ......

Peggy,

Israeli perhaps harvested organs of the Palestinians, but they were already dead.

Albanians kept people locked in the cellar and unlocked the door when they needed to butcher them for their organs.

One has to draw a strict line there, that is why Albanian crimes are compared to organization of dr. Mengele.

I saw the movie "The Road" in which there is a horrific scene that made me think of the "Yellow House" in Albania where KLA held the imprisoned Serb civilians:

A bunch of cannibals hunted/imprisoned a number of people. Every day they would drag someone out to chop off their limbs for 'dinner'. After that they would be returned to the cellar (if still alive.

I wouldn't recommend nobody with a faint heart to see this movie.

"They're Serbs.....allready behind the bars,..i personaly know people involved in this case.
(blunt, 23 December 2009 22:13) "

Lot's of 'if's here mate..

If you're (albanian?) being truthful..
if so, are the people you know (albanian?) lying..
if one of the 'accused' really is a serb..
and if so were the other two..
if 1 or more were, were they also co-erced &/or paid in a set up..
& if not, was this an attempt to bolster an actual 'organ trafficking' case or a ficticious case.

On the other hand, if the KPS/KLA fabricated this little sting, then that would certainly explain why there has been no follow-up 6 months after the event.

Still waiting with bated breath...