Party says New Guinea "recognized Kosovo"

Pacolli is an idiot. Why has he announced it before they actually complete the recognition? Now we are going to have Serbian and Russian diplomats telling and threatening PNG not to recognise. He doesn't lobby for the sake of Kosovo, but for the sake of his status and own personnel political gains.

Dear all

Yesteday, I said that Hyseni tricked Jeremic about Lebanon, because recognitions will come from other parts of the world.

Here we come New Guinea.

Funny enough I happened to guess it right...

I guess Jeremic flight might be redirected towards New Guinea...:)

Pacolli is an idiot. Why has he announced it before they actually complete the recognition? Now we are going to have Serbian and Russian diplomats telling and threatening PNG not to recognise. He doesn't lobby for the sake of Kosovo, but for the sake of his status and own personnel political gains.
(Ian, UK, 22 December 2009 13:00)

Could not have said it better. Just becouse he is a multi-milioner, it does not mean he is a politician. Actually,he is a true idiot.He actually restored Kremlin to its original form/shape (badly damaged during fallof soviet union) after the fall of USSR,and got paid close to billion dollars.

You are mistaken, Bahgjet. If this recognition is actually true, it came because of America's strongarming, and nothing else. Nobody, and mean nobody, would bother even bother looking you up on the map, Bahgjet, if it wasn't for the U.S. So please, get over yourself, and your other K_Albanian playmates.

So much for ICJ.

Hightly unreliable source. Since,
a. the man is not a government official,
b. no Guinean official has recognized,
c. states do not like politicians leaking things like this (expect a delay in recognition if any)
d. The same party also claimed to have secured Libyan, Salvadorian recognition only too have this denied by these countries the next day. The party also claimed things like aftern the OAS meetign the next day Pacolli will secure 12 recognitions. Essentially they lie.

Am not particularily surprised at this report especially given the source. For instance, MP's buying votes is common practice in PNG.

Is also speculation the price tag for russian 'lobbying' in Nauru was some 50M & that results of same may or may not include de-recognition of so-called 'republic of Kosovo' http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/24525

Oh well, at least this practice is keeping the economies of these little islands above water.

Pity the same thing can't be said about the islands themselves.

(DimTuc, 22 December 2009 16:46)

El Salvador was going to recognise Kosovo, but the same scenario happened as we have here. Pacolli announced it way before it actually happened, so this gave time for Russia to pay El Salvador a visit and they threatened to block veto several things which El Salvador wanted in the UN if the recognised Kosovo. Now that Pacolli has done it again, he has secured a recognition, but he has mostly likely ruined by announcing it to the world, therefore the Russians will mostly likely go visit PNG by the end of the year and get them to "change their minds".
He should keep things secret then claim credit for it after they have recognised.

just another very important player on the scene...

I am deeply impressed. =)

So now recognitions have got to the level of announcing them before they actually happen? What a sad process this has become and even more so because it changes absolutely nothing.

He should keep things secret then claim credit for it after they have recognised.
(Ian, UK, 22 December 2009 17:43)

the 21st century albanian motto right there folks...

Let's just see if it actually happens or not before commenting too much - in the past Pacolli has claimed that El Salvador, Libya and I think East Timor had recognised or were about to. Noone heard anything again.

Where did he come from anyway, and where did he get his big packet of dollars from?

Recognitions in 1st half of 2008 ... 43.
Recognitions in 2nd half of 2008 .. 10.
Recognitions in 1st half of 2009 ... 7.
Recognitions in 2nd half of 2009 .. 4.

Keep it up indeed 'little Vuk'.
(peter, sydney, 22 December 2009 11:44)
It is a fact that Jeremic has slowed the recognitions of kosovo of course at great expense to the Serbian people but it brings a story to mind.
A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival. He said that they were not making him live longer they were making him die slower, but that outcome will be the same.
Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.

"A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival. He said that they were not making him live longer they were making him die slower, but that outcome will be the same.
Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.
(pss, 23 December 2009 02:19) "

I wonder who is the one who is really grieving right now ..... the Serbians who are safe and sound inside the UN ..... or somebody else destined to remain outside the UN forever like Taiwan (but MINUS its wealth) and totally at the mercy of the West for its economic life support (since you brought up this analogy about the patient)

"BTW another 25 countries then see you in UN with Kosovo having a seat also.
(prizreni, 24 December 2009 19:01) "

Kosovo a UN member? Don't bet on it. Kosovo will find it impossible to scale over the Great Wall of China (and Russian) vetoes at the UNSC. Might as well wish for the moon.

Btw. PNG. Can your engine run on that? I'm sick and tired of diesel.

>A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival.....


Forget about it. We cant remove your life support its something about your human rights. I missed that class but its something like that. Anyway Kosovo will live but it'll be a little cold down there until Albanians wake up and start negotiating. Thats all.

I look forward to Albanian warlords like Taci do this thing
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Kurulu_Village_War_Chief.jpg

say in Zabela.

And Serbia ain't singing.
(peter, sydney, 23 December 2009 17:02)

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.

"Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.
(pss, 23 December 2009 02:19) "

As the saying goes "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings", & in this case the 'fat lady' is Serbia.

And Serbia ain't singing.

Prizreni

Seriously, how hard is it for KAs to understand that in order to join the UN a state needs to have approval from the Security Council. This means acceptance from all 5 permanent members. Only after that does the General Assembly have a vote. No SC, no membership. It has been said here countless times and yet people just don't seem to get it.

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23)

For you information Papua New Guinea only survives due to Australia’s money. You see Australia rapes PNG of its natural resources so it’s no wonder that it’s going to recognize Kosovo. However, they can recognize my dead grandmother, but Kosovo is going nowhere and the only song the UK will sing is “Which cheek do we kiss Serbia on?” I guarantee you this! We Serbs have a great debt to repay “Great Britain” and this young generation will repay you with interest plus some.

"Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23) "

Only if you have albanian ears.

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23)

Wow, you certainly have a lot of hatred for the Serbs and you seem to be making it personal.

Are you sure you are a Brit and not an Albanian pretending to be a Brit?
C'mon, don't be ashamed of your Albanian blood.

I read here, some of you are writing that PNG lives from Australian money. Also other little islands around the world who recognized Kosovo lives from the countries like, US, France or Great Britain. But they do have a seat in the UN same as Russia, China or India.
BTW another 25 countries then see you in UN with Kosovo having a seat also.

Pacolli is an idiot. Why has he announced it before they actually complete the recognition? Now we are going to have Serbian and Russian diplomats telling and threatening PNG not to recognise. He doesn't lobby for the sake of Kosovo, but for the sake of his status and own personnel political gains.

(DimTuc, 22 December 2009 16:46)

El Salvador was going to recognise Kosovo, but the same scenario happened as we have here. Pacolli announced it way before it actually happened, so this gave time for Russia to pay El Salvador a visit and they threatened to block veto several things which El Salvador wanted in the UN if the recognised Kosovo. Now that Pacolli has done it again, he has secured a recognition, but he has mostly likely ruined by announcing it to the world, therefore the Russians will mostly likely go visit PNG by the end of the year and get them to "change their minds".
He should keep things secret then claim credit for it after they have recognised.

Am not particularily surprised at this report especially given the source. For instance, MP's buying votes is common practice in PNG.

Is also speculation the price tag for russian 'lobbying' in Nauru was some 50M & that results of same may or may not include de-recognition of so-called 'republic of Kosovo' http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/24525

Oh well, at least this practice is keeping the economies of these little islands above water.

Pity the same thing can't be said about the islands themselves.

Pacolli is an idiot. Why has he announced it before they actually complete the recognition? Now we are going to have Serbian and Russian diplomats telling and threatening PNG not to recognise. He doesn't lobby for the sake of Kosovo, but for the sake of his status and own personnel political gains.
(Ian, UK, 22 December 2009 13:00)

Could not have said it better. Just becouse he is a multi-milioner, it does not mean he is a politician. Actually,he is a true idiot.He actually restored Kremlin to its original form/shape (badly damaged during fallof soviet union) after the fall of USSR,and got paid close to billion dollars.

Dear all

Yesteday, I said that Hyseni tricked Jeremic about Lebanon, because recognitions will come from other parts of the world.

Here we come New Guinea.

Funny enough I happened to guess it right...

I guess Jeremic flight might be redirected towards New Guinea...:)

So much for ICJ.

just another very important player on the scene...

I am deeply impressed. =)

You are mistaken, Bahgjet. If this recognition is actually true, it came because of America's strongarming, and nothing else. Nobody, and mean nobody, would bother even bother looking you up on the map, Bahgjet, if it wasn't for the U.S. So please, get over yourself, and your other K_Albanian playmates.

So now recognitions have got to the level of announcing them before they actually happen? What a sad process this has become and even more so because it changes absolutely nothing.

Let's just see if it actually happens or not before commenting too much - in the past Pacolli has claimed that El Salvador, Libya and I think East Timor had recognised or were about to. Noone heard anything again.

Where did he come from anyway, and where did he get his big packet of dollars from?

He should keep things secret then claim credit for it after they have recognised.
(Ian, UK, 22 December 2009 17:43)

the 21st century albanian motto right there folks...

Hightly unreliable source. Since,
a. the man is not a government official,
b. no Guinean official has recognized,
c. states do not like politicians leaking things like this (expect a delay in recognition if any)
d. The same party also claimed to have secured Libyan, Salvadorian recognition only too have this denied by these countries the next day. The party also claimed things like aftern the OAS meetign the next day Pacolli will secure 12 recognitions. Essentially they lie.

Recognitions in 1st half of 2008 ... 43.
Recognitions in 2nd half of 2008 .. 10.
Recognitions in 1st half of 2009 ... 7.
Recognitions in 2nd half of 2009 .. 4.

Keep it up indeed 'little Vuk'.
(peter, sydney, 22 December 2009 11:44)
It is a fact that Jeremic has slowed the recognitions of kosovo of course at great expense to the Serbian people but it brings a story to mind.
A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival. He said that they were not making him live longer they were making him die slower, but that outcome will be the same.
Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.

And Serbia ain't singing.
(peter, sydney, 23 December 2009 17:02)

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.

>A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival.....


Forget about it. We cant remove your life support its something about your human rights. I missed that class but its something like that. Anyway Kosovo will live but it'll be a little cold down there until Albanians wake up and start negotiating. Thats all.

"A good Dr friend of mine was trying to explain to a family that they should remove life support from a family member who had no hope of survival. He said that they were not making him live longer they were making him die slower, but that outcome will be the same.
Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.
(pss, 23 December 2009 02:19) "

I wonder who is the one who is really grieving right now ..... the Serbians who are safe and sound inside the UN ..... or somebody else destined to remain outside the UN forever like Taiwan (but MINUS its wealth) and totally at the mercy of the West for its economic life support (since you brought up this analogy about the patient)

"Jeremic is only prolonging the grieving process for the Serbian people, he is not altering the outcome.
(pss, 23 December 2009 02:19) "

As the saying goes "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings", & in this case the 'fat lady' is Serbia.

And Serbia ain't singing.

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23)

Wow, you certainly have a lot of hatred for the Serbs and you seem to be making it personal.

Are you sure you are a Brit and not an Albanian pretending to be a Brit?
C'mon, don't be ashamed of your Albanian blood.

I read here, some of you are writing that PNG lives from Australian money. Also other little islands around the world who recognized Kosovo lives from the countries like, US, France or Great Britain. But they do have a seat in the UN same as Russia, China or India.
BTW another 25 countries then see you in UN with Kosovo having a seat also.

Btw. PNG. Can your engine run on that? I'm sick and tired of diesel.

I look forward to Albanian warlords like Taci do this thing
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Kurulu_Village_War_Chief.jpg

say in Zabela.

"Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23) "

Only if you have albanian ears.

Serbia ain't singing yet mate, but Serbia will sing eventually; Serbia will sing it loud and clear for all to hear.
(Ian, UK, 23 December 2009 19:23)

For you information Papua New Guinea only survives due to Australia’s money. You see Australia rapes PNG of its natural resources so it’s no wonder that it’s going to recognize Kosovo. However, they can recognize my dead grandmother, but Kosovo is going nowhere and the only song the UK will sing is “Which cheek do we kiss Serbia on?” I guarantee you this! We Serbs have a great debt to repay “Great Britain” and this young generation will repay you with interest plus some.

"BTW another 25 countries then see you in UN with Kosovo having a seat also.
(prizreni, 24 December 2009 19:01) "

Kosovo a UN member? Don't bet on it. Kosovo will find it impossible to scale over the Great Wall of China (and Russian) vetoes at the UNSC. Might as well wish for the moon.

Prizreni

Seriously, how hard is it for KAs to understand that in order to join the UN a state needs to have approval from the Security Council. This means acceptance from all 5 permanent members. Only after that does the General Assembly have a vote. No SC, no membership. It has been said here countless times and yet people just don't seem to get it.