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Monday, 21.12.2009.

09:31

"New military base – greatest success"

Defense Minister Dragan Šutanovac on Sunday in Belgrade addressed reporters to present the results of his ministry in 2009.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Vuk

pre 14 godina

Exactly as the commenter below me has said; the myth about the Illyrians is extremely tenious and is actually a subject of debate not a concrete fact. This in essence is quite embarressing considering that if it is eventually completely disproved that you are descendants you would find your self in a vacuum of history.
However, the important part here is; what is it actually that lets an ethnic group claim land; I believe it is what it does with the land, Albanians have contributed very little to nothing in Kosovo in the larger scale as most of them are farmers or as we are now seeing black market workers, however Serbia as a nation has existed for a far longer peroid then Albania or any other "Arnaut" settlement and thus has civilised the people who live there and developed it into a modern country, however there has been every attempt to reverse this by Albanian sepratists and such who are more concerned with power and personal gains, none of which actually further the development and standard of living of it's constituents. Its all a big shame they dont realise this.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?
(Mark, 21 December 2009 21:30)

Where were you? Please don't start with the Illyrian myth again. Give us something credible. I guess you don't know where you were then, but you obviously were not in Kosovo. If you were there would be some evidence to back that up.

BTW, where were the English in 4th century? Let's throw them out of the land they occupy now including America and Australia.

Mark

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.
(svojgazda, 21 December 2009 18:00)

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova [sic]." (Kosova-USA)

Hey genius,

Albanian demographics:

Presevo - 89%
Medvedja - 29% (municipality)
Medvedja - 7% (town)
Bujanovac - 54% (municipality)
Bujanovac - 30% (town)

Now what makes you think

1) All three are "yours"?
2) All three should go to Kosovo?

especially when Albanians are a clear minority in Medvedja and only a small majority in Bujanovac?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova.

Vuk

pre 14 godina

I wonder if "Kosova-USA" would like to elaborate at all on why the newly built base will be Albanian in the future, as far as I am aware there are no plans to hand over the base to the Republic of Albania? However I may be wrong?

Interesting comment above, NATO may simply be overstreched abroad to actually patrol the region and as there seems to be no changing political situation in Kosovo in terms of Albanian criminal politics I dont think they will be trusted to look after any of the minorities in Kosovo for many decades to come, at which point the conclusion will most likely be reached due to this that it was flawed to let them try and govern over anyone but themselves, I.e The north must seperate, which defeats the entire point of a nation in a modern context.
Since this is likely to occur it is Serbia's duty to develop itself on a economic and political level in order to gain the trust of the Albanian majority in its southern province. This scenario is the best outcome for both sides however will most likely be quashed by a researgent nationalistic sentiment which will no doubt reengluf the Balkan in coming years as it has done in a vitious circle throughout history.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"in order to become a center for the training of peace-keeping missions in the region".


Never knew that Serbia military became a peace-keeping mission in region. wow, this is news to me.Anyway, thanks Sutanovac for building the future Albanian base, so we don't have to spend any money.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

So Kosovo-USA, what did Šutanovac mean by that statement? Peacekeeping in the region? Šutanovac is NATOs man so it seems something has already been agreed. The only place in the region that needs peacekeeping is Kosovo.

Do you think Serbian troops are going to return? Once NATO exits, who will be most capable of looking after Serbian controlled areas and religous sites?

Zoran

pre 14 godina

So Kosovo-USA, what did Šutanovac mean by that statement? Peacekeeping in the region? Šutanovac is NATOs man so it seems something has already been agreed. The only place in the region that needs peacekeeping is Kosovo.

Do you think Serbian troops are going to return? Once NATO exits, who will be most capable of looking after Serbian controlled areas and religous sites?

Mike

pre 14 godina

"What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova [sic]." (Kosova-USA)

Hey genius,

Albanian demographics:

Presevo - 89%
Medvedja - 29% (municipality)
Medvedja - 7% (town)
Bujanovac - 54% (municipality)
Bujanovac - 30% (town)

Now what makes you think

1) All three are "yours"?
2) All three should go to Kosovo?

especially when Albanians are a clear minority in Medvedja and only a small majority in Bujanovac?

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.

Vuk

pre 14 godina

I wonder if "Kosova-USA" would like to elaborate at all on why the newly built base will be Albanian in the future, as far as I am aware there are no plans to hand over the base to the Republic of Albania? However I may be wrong?

Interesting comment above, NATO may simply be overstreched abroad to actually patrol the region and as there seems to be no changing political situation in Kosovo in terms of Albanian criminal politics I dont think they will be trusted to look after any of the minorities in Kosovo for many decades to come, at which point the conclusion will most likely be reached due to this that it was flawed to let them try and govern over anyone but themselves, I.e The north must seperate, which defeats the entire point of a nation in a modern context.
Since this is likely to occur it is Serbia's duty to develop itself on a economic and political level in order to gain the trust of the Albanian majority in its southern province. This scenario is the best outcome for both sides however will most likely be quashed by a researgent nationalistic sentiment which will no doubt reengluf the Balkan in coming years as it has done in a vitious circle throughout history.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"in order to become a center for the training of peace-keeping missions in the region".


Never knew that Serbia military became a peace-keeping mission in region. wow, this is news to me.Anyway, thanks Sutanovac for building the future Albanian base, so we don't have to spend any money.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?
(Mark, 21 December 2009 21:30)

Where were you? Please don't start with the Illyrian myth again. Give us something credible. I guess you don't know where you were then, but you obviously were not in Kosovo. If you were there would be some evidence to back that up.

BTW, where were the English in 4th century? Let's throw them out of the land they occupy now including America and Australia.

Vuk

pre 14 godina

Exactly as the commenter below me has said; the myth about the Illyrians is extremely tenious and is actually a subject of debate not a concrete fact. This in essence is quite embarressing considering that if it is eventually completely disproved that you are descendants you would find your self in a vacuum of history.
However, the important part here is; what is it actually that lets an ethnic group claim land; I believe it is what it does with the land, Albanians have contributed very little to nothing in Kosovo in the larger scale as most of them are farmers or as we are now seeing black market workers, however Serbia as a nation has existed for a far longer peroid then Albania or any other "Arnaut" settlement and thus has civilised the people who live there and developed it into a modern country, however there has been every attempt to reverse this by Albanian sepratists and such who are more concerned with power and personal gains, none of which actually further the development and standard of living of it's constituents. Its all a big shame they dont realise this.

Mark

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.
(svojgazda, 21 December 2009 18:00)

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"in order to become a center for the training of peace-keeping missions in the region".


Never knew that Serbia military became a peace-keeping mission in region. wow, this is news to me.Anyway, thanks Sutanovac for building the future Albanian base, so we don't have to spend any money.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova.

Mark

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.
(svojgazda, 21 December 2009 18:00)

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?

Zoran

pre 14 godina

So Kosovo-USA, what did Šutanovac mean by that statement? Peacekeeping in the region? Šutanovac is NATOs man so it seems something has already been agreed. The only place in the region that needs peacekeeping is Kosovo.

Do you think Serbian troops are going to return? Once NATO exits, who will be most capable of looking after Serbian controlled areas and religous sites?

Vuk

pre 14 godina

I wonder if "Kosova-USA" would like to elaborate at all on why the newly built base will be Albanian in the future, as far as I am aware there are no plans to hand over the base to the Republic of Albania? However I may be wrong?

Interesting comment above, NATO may simply be overstreched abroad to actually patrol the region and as there seems to be no changing political situation in Kosovo in terms of Albanian criminal politics I dont think they will be trusted to look after any of the minorities in Kosovo for many decades to come, at which point the conclusion will most likely be reached due to this that it was flawed to let them try and govern over anyone but themselves, I.e The north must seperate, which defeats the entire point of a nation in a modern context.
Since this is likely to occur it is Serbia's duty to develop itself on a economic and political level in order to gain the trust of the Albanian majority in its southern province. This scenario is the best outcome for both sides however will most likely be quashed by a researgent nationalistic sentiment which will no doubt reengluf the Balkan in coming years as it has done in a vitious circle throughout history.

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

It makes Albanians like Kosovo-US think that wherever there are Albanians, it is Albanian land. This has been their historic approach - move somewhere, build a tent of house, keep a few goats, and the land is historically theirs. This is how they came to claim Kosovo i Metohija. And this is why the Serbs had to build Base Jug.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

So enlighten us.What is the serbian historical aproach? How did this land in the Balkans that today is called Serbia came into life. Where were you serbs let's say in the 4th century?
(Mark, 21 December 2009 21:30)

Where were you? Please don't start with the Illyrian myth again. Give us something credible. I guess you don't know where you were then, but you obviously were not in Kosovo. If you were there would be some evidence to back that up.

BTW, where were the English in 4th century? Let's throw them out of the land they occupy now including America and Australia.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"What I meant is not for Albania to take over ,but Albanians in Preshevo/Medvedja and Bujanovc aka Eastern Kosova, which will be incorporated in Kosova [sic]." (Kosova-USA)

Hey genius,

Albanian demographics:

Presevo - 89%
Medvedja - 29% (municipality)
Medvedja - 7% (town)
Bujanovac - 54% (municipality)
Bujanovac - 30% (town)

Now what makes you think

1) All three are "yours"?
2) All three should go to Kosovo?

especially when Albanians are a clear minority in Medvedja and only a small majority in Bujanovac?

Vuk

pre 14 godina

Exactly as the commenter below me has said; the myth about the Illyrians is extremely tenious and is actually a subject of debate not a concrete fact. This in essence is quite embarressing considering that if it is eventually completely disproved that you are descendants you would find your self in a vacuum of history.
However, the important part here is; what is it actually that lets an ethnic group claim land; I believe it is what it does with the land, Albanians have contributed very little to nothing in Kosovo in the larger scale as most of them are farmers or as we are now seeing black market workers, however Serbia as a nation has existed for a far longer peroid then Albania or any other "Arnaut" settlement and thus has civilised the people who live there and developed it into a modern country, however there has been every attempt to reverse this by Albanian sepratists and such who are more concerned with power and personal gains, none of which actually further the development and standard of living of it's constituents. Its all a big shame they dont realise this.