Although B92 didn't published my comment of yesterday I am insisting today again with a comment about the last comment in the list. It seems someone from Tirana stupid coffee gossips has started to read something more (B92 website)than what she hears in this gossip sessions. There are many things to claim about Berisha but those listed by "lili" are totally ridiculous.
a man who is married with slobodenka rama, a man who has traded oil with milosevic and welcomed arkan in albania when kosovo was burning can not lobby for kosovo but can only do his job as a UDB fellow(the mother of slobodenka was the udb resident in albania)and can only desserve kosovo .
A man who is a friend of damir Fazlic,nephew of Stanicic can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo! a man who met serbian agent in Paris can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo!
It is not necessary for President Berisha of Albania to lobby for recognitions for Kosova. Little Vuk is doing a great job of getting recognitions for Kosova. Even many of his "brother" Slav nations have recognized Kosova's independence, thanks to Vuk Jeremic!
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
(Oso, 21 December 2009 09:00)
Would not dare!!!
Are you actually saying that UN would not dare do this or that if you don't approve?
How the mouse thinks he can take on the cat after falling in the barrel of wine.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
(sj, 21 December 2009 12:33)
Maybe, but my dad can beat up your dad with his little finger.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
"That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
(EA, 20 December 2009 23:05) "
...with ever diminishing returns.
"some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
(Kosova-USA, 20 December 2009 21:13) "
Serbia Greece maybe Russia VS Albania,Macedonia,Bosnia,Sllovenia,Croatia,Turkey and than maybe US,France,Germany,England.
(UNE, 20 December 2009 20:00)
First off, this comment is lacking any factual basis or common sense. Second, Bosnia is nearly 50% Serb so they will never do anything to turn against their fellow brethren in Serbia. Macedonia is still mostly Slav, and they too share a common bond with Serbs, so you have no argument here. The US has already fulfilled its interests in Kosovo so now its attention has turned elsewhere so forget their support in the future.
"...since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo.."
(Mike, 20 December 2009 20:49)
Mike,
Who told you the above? If you read only Serbian government website no surprise then how accurate your statement is.
But let me remind you a very simple thing. More Serbia is trying to prevent Kosova independence more and more she is allenieting "its own people living in Kosova/o" and the "its own territory where this people live in".
That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
So, we have leaders from all over the world trying to find a solution to fight climate change and save the planet and we have Mr Berisha who comes and says "Hey guys, why don't you recognise Kosovo!?"
I must say that is some very professional diplomacy.
Dear Albanians,
I'm affraid you have no Idea what lobbying means nor how it goes. It is in the self-conception of Lobbyism that you don't talk about it and you would never call it Lobbying unless you want lay open somebodys illegitime purposes. The term lobbying has a sence close to bribery. Diplomats react very sensitive on that. Albanians not only will have no success with these kind of activities, they are doing big damage by the way they're acting.
UPDATE to my previous comment:
Another ethnic Hungarian/Romanian citizen, member of the Hungarian minority party, was officially nominated for the Bucharest Government, for the Ministry of Health! They are now 4 (3 ministers + the deputy PM) out of 17 members of the cabinet... The confirmation vote in the Parliament will take place on Tuesday.
# greeks and serbs are going
to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
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Poor comment (-9)
What's this
Tom,
If you really believe there are any Serbs living in Albania, do you have a list of names. There are only Albanian speakers in North Albania.
Maybe, 40,000 Greeks at most in Southern Albania which is 1.3% compared to 1,000,000 Albanians in Greece or 10%.
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
:Are you sure you are not talking about Serb FM Vuk, and allthose expenses around the globe for nothing."
(Kosova-USA
-- I wouldn't necessarily call what he does a waste of time since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo Parastate. I addition, he's been able to secure a number of gentlemen's agreements with larger Western powers that have, by now, accepted Serbia's non-acceptance of Kosovo's status. Obviously you're being overly critical for a man who may not succeed 100% of the time, but succeeds 75 - 85% of the time. Pretty good if you ask me, considering many people though, nay expected, Serbia to just roll over and play dead.
What praytell does Hyseni do again? I've yet to find any merit in his job. Shouldn't it have been his job to lobby in Copenhagen? Why must other people do his job? Was he or anyone in Pristina even invited to Copenhagen?
For sure, the Albanian PM did not met with the Romanian president, Basescu, he was also in Copenhagen... Sad, because Basescu could explain him, once for all, that he and Kosovo leaders are on the wrong path when talking about Romania and its motives for not recognizing Kosovo independence - as Mr. Sejdiu, Kosovo president, did recently, saying that "Romania has domestic reasons for rejecting Kosovo independence" - probably pointing to the so-called "Transilvanian question" (?!), which seems to be the only thing Albanians on this forum know (in fact, they just approximate) about Romania's ethnic landscape.
It is also a pity that several Kosovo officials were denied a meeting with our president, this year, (actually, they were not able to meet a single top official in Bucharest, which is stupid, I mean our people should have been more open, talking would hurt nobody... but maybe they were busy with the electoral campaign). However, Basescu is in the best position to explain that Kosovo issue was not even discussed in the electoral debates, since the Romanian political class agrees on the non-recognition of Kosovo self-proclaimed independence. This being said, Albanian friends please, wait a little before replying "of course, Romania is afraid of encouraging Hungarian separatism in Transylvania, in February 2008 the Hungarian minority party abstained from voting in Romanian Parliament against the recognition, bla, bla."
In fact, the new Romanian government (announced couple hours ago) includes 3 members from the Hungarian minority party, one being Deputy-Prime Minister, the others two being the Minister for Environment and the Minister for Culture (yes, Culture, that ministry which deals with schools, textbooks, theaters, monuments and so on)... So much for the "domestic /minorities connected/ problems" precluding Romania's recognition of Kosovo, don't you think? And I forgot to mention: the new govt. is supported by a majority in the Parliament composed from the Liberal-Democrats (the former party of Basescu), the Hungarian minority party (5%), the Group of MPs representing Minorities Other than Hungarians (5%) and a group of "independents", ("defectors" from the Liberals and Social-Democrats).
So, we will have, again, a government with the support of the Hungarians in Romania, their party being, in the last decade, almost half time in power in Bucharest. And nobody goes crazy about it. Btw, Serb friends, I wish your leaders had same approach 20 years ago, maybe things would have been different now... just an opinion, only Gd knows the entire truth...
So, this is the political make-up of Romania, a country which is currently described on this forum as being primitive, non-democratic, poor&undeveloped, not worthy of EU&NATO membership, and SOOOO afraid of the danger posed by its minorities (99% loyal citizens to a state member in NATO and EU...) that is refusing to recognize Kosovo.... As if Kosovo could be seen by Romanian politicians as being anything more than a (very lucky!) separatist province 30 times smaller than Romania, with no leverage in foreign affairs and little economical importance, full of ex-guerrillas with plenty of guns&ammo and supported by US and West-Europeans in order to 1) show Muslims all over the world that big Christian powers have no prejudice against them, since they build a new Muslim nation in Europe, and 2) make forget the shame of failing to prevent Bosnia-Herzegovina catastrophe in nineties... (I know, it is a very prejudiced perspective, but who's to blame? Romanians? don't think so!)
Last but not least, something Albanians may consider "good news" (although it's not): Bogdan Aurescu, the diplomat who presented Romania's position on Kosovo issue in Hague, didn't make the list as Foreign Affairs Minister. He was replaced with our Ambassador in Paris, Theodor Baconski. It is not good news because this guy is older, and even more strict in promoting the "no recognition" approach. On the other hand, he enjoys to be in the media, so maybe he will grant an audience to Kosovo leaders, for the sake of publicity...
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
I thought Sali went to Copenhagen
to do the climate talks??!!
His lobbying for Kosovo amid decision making about saving the Earth was perceived there as as a vexation and nuisance.
But he hasn't noticed that he's out of context and a huge a bother to everyone- sophistication is none of his business.
Why are you implying that the only thing he did at Copenhagen was lobby for recognitions? That will have been one thing he will have done. Obviously his primmary purpose will have been the enviroment, espeically since Albania wants to join the EU therefore it will have to green-up to join. Many world leaders will have used Copenhagen as a chance to meet other world leaders for things other than the enviroment. Tadic will have talked to other leaders about things other than the enviroment, is he a waste too?
So instead of spending his time in Copenhagen for the purposes of the conference, he hangs out in lobbies and hallyways trying to hawk merchandise that's either been already bought, or what would-be customers are not interested in buying.
Time wasted if you ask me.
Any key chains, mugs, t-shirts, or tote bags to go along with the sale?
So instead of spending his time in Copenhagen for the purposes of the conference, he hangs out in lobbies and hallyways trying to hawk merchandise that's either been already bought, or what would-be customers are not interested in buying.
Time wasted if you ask me.
Any key chains, mugs, t-shirts, or tote bags to go along with the sale?
Why are you implying that the only thing he did at Copenhagen was lobby for recognitions? That will have been one thing he will have done. Obviously his primmary purpose will have been the enviroment, espeically since Albania wants to join the EU therefore it will have to green-up to join. Many world leaders will have used Copenhagen as a chance to meet other world leaders for things other than the enviroment. Tadic will have talked to other leaders about things other than the enviroment, is he a waste too?
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
For sure, the Albanian PM did not met with the Romanian president, Basescu, he was also in Copenhagen... Sad, because Basescu could explain him, once for all, that he and Kosovo leaders are on the wrong path when talking about Romania and its motives for not recognizing Kosovo independence - as Mr. Sejdiu, Kosovo president, did recently, saying that "Romania has domestic reasons for rejecting Kosovo independence" - probably pointing to the so-called "Transilvanian question" (?!), which seems to be the only thing Albanians on this forum know (in fact, they just approximate) about Romania's ethnic landscape.
It is also a pity that several Kosovo officials were denied a meeting with our president, this year, (actually, they were not able to meet a single top official in Bucharest, which is stupid, I mean our people should have been more open, talking would hurt nobody... but maybe they were busy with the electoral campaign). However, Basescu is in the best position to explain that Kosovo issue was not even discussed in the electoral debates, since the Romanian political class agrees on the non-recognition of Kosovo self-proclaimed independence. This being said, Albanian friends please, wait a little before replying "of course, Romania is afraid of encouraging Hungarian separatism in Transylvania, in February 2008 the Hungarian minority party abstained from voting in Romanian Parliament against the recognition, bla, bla."
In fact, the new Romanian government (announced couple hours ago) includes 3 members from the Hungarian minority party, one being Deputy-Prime Minister, the others two being the Minister for Environment and the Minister for Culture (yes, Culture, that ministry which deals with schools, textbooks, theaters, monuments and so on)... So much for the "domestic /minorities connected/ problems" precluding Romania's recognition of Kosovo, don't you think? And I forgot to mention: the new govt. is supported by a majority in the Parliament composed from the Liberal-Democrats (the former party of Basescu), the Hungarian minority party (5%), the Group of MPs representing Minorities Other than Hungarians (5%) and a group of "independents", ("defectors" from the Liberals and Social-Democrats).
So, we will have, again, a government with the support of the Hungarians in Romania, their party being, in the last decade, almost half time in power in Bucharest. And nobody goes crazy about it. Btw, Serb friends, I wish your leaders had same approach 20 years ago, maybe things would have been different now... just an opinion, only Gd knows the entire truth...
So, this is the political make-up of Romania, a country which is currently described on this forum as being primitive, non-democratic, poor&undeveloped, not worthy of EU&NATO membership, and SOOOO afraid of the danger posed by its minorities (99% loyal citizens to a state member in NATO and EU...) that is refusing to recognize Kosovo.... As if Kosovo could be seen by Romanian politicians as being anything more than a (very lucky!) separatist province 30 times smaller than Romania, with no leverage in foreign affairs and little economical importance, full of ex-guerrillas with plenty of guns&ammo and supported by US and West-Europeans in order to 1) show Muslims all over the world that big Christian powers have no prejudice against them, since they build a new Muslim nation in Europe, and 2) make forget the shame of failing to prevent Bosnia-Herzegovina catastrophe in nineties... (I know, it is a very prejudiced perspective, but who's to blame? Romanians? don't think so!)
Last but not least, something Albanians may consider "good news" (although it's not): Bogdan Aurescu, the diplomat who presented Romania's position on Kosovo issue in Hague, didn't make the list as Foreign Affairs Minister. He was replaced with our Ambassador in Paris, Theodor Baconski. It is not good news because this guy is older, and even more strict in promoting the "no recognition" approach. On the other hand, he enjoys to be in the media, so maybe he will grant an audience to Kosovo leaders, for the sake of publicity...
I thought Sali went to Copenhagen
to do the climate talks??!!
His lobbying for Kosovo amid decision making about saving the Earth was perceived there as as a vexation and nuisance.
But he hasn't noticed that he's out of context and a huge a bother to everyone- sophistication is none of his business.
Serbia Greece maybe Russia VS Albania,Macedonia,Bosnia,Sllovenia,Croatia,Turkey and than maybe US,France,Germany,England.
(UNE, 20 December 2009 20:00)
First off, this comment is lacking any factual basis or common sense. Second, Bosnia is nearly 50% Serb so they will never do anything to turn against their fellow brethren in Serbia. Macedonia is still mostly Slav, and they too share a common bond with Serbs, so you have no argument here. The US has already fulfilled its interests in Kosovo so now its attention has turned elsewhere so forget their support in the future.
# greeks and serbs are going
to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
Recommend (+11)
Poor comment (-9)
What's this
Tom,
If you really believe there are any Serbs living in Albania, do you have a list of names. There are only Albanian speakers in North Albania.
Maybe, 40,000 Greeks at most in Southern Albania which is 1.3% compared to 1,000,000 Albanians in Greece or 10%.
:Are you sure you are not talking about Serb FM Vuk, and allthose expenses around the globe for nothing."
(Kosova-USA
-- I wouldn't necessarily call what he does a waste of time since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo Parastate. I addition, he's been able to secure a number of gentlemen's agreements with larger Western powers that have, by now, accepted Serbia's non-acceptance of Kosovo's status. Obviously you're being overly critical for a man who may not succeed 100% of the time, but succeeds 75 - 85% of the time. Pretty good if you ask me, considering many people though, nay expected, Serbia to just roll over and play dead.
What praytell does Hyseni do again? I've yet to find any merit in his job. Shouldn't it have been his job to lobby in Copenhagen? Why must other people do his job? Was he or anyone in Pristina even invited to Copenhagen?
So, we have leaders from all over the world trying to find a solution to fight climate change and save the planet and we have Mr Berisha who comes and says "Hey guys, why don't you recognise Kosovo!?"
I must say that is some very professional diplomacy.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
(sj, 21 December 2009 12:33)
Maybe, but my dad can beat up your dad with his little finger.
Dear Albanians,
I'm affraid you have no Idea what lobbying means nor how it goes. It is in the self-conception of Lobbyism that you don't talk about it and you would never call it Lobbying unless you want lay open somebodys illegitime purposes. The term lobbying has a sence close to bribery. Diplomats react very sensitive on that. Albanians not only will have no success with these kind of activities, they are doing big damage by the way they're acting.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
"...since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo.."
(Mike, 20 December 2009 20:49)
Mike,
Who told you the above? If you read only Serbian government website no surprise then how accurate your statement is.
But let me remind you a very simple thing. More Serbia is trying to prevent Kosova independence more and more she is allenieting "its own people living in Kosova/o" and the "its own territory where this people live in".
That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
UPDATE to my previous comment:
Another ethnic Hungarian/Romanian citizen, member of the Hungarian minority party, was officially nominated for the Bucharest Government, for the Ministry of Health! They are now 4 (3 ministers + the deputy PM) out of 17 members of the cabinet... The confirmation vote in the Parliament will take place on Tuesday.
"That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
(EA, 20 December 2009 23:05) "
...with ever diminishing returns.
"some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
(Kosova-USA, 20 December 2009 21:13) "
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
(Oso, 21 December 2009 09:00)
Would not dare!!!
Are you actually saying that UN would not dare do this or that if you don't approve?
How the mouse thinks he can take on the cat after falling in the barrel of wine.
It is not necessary for President Berisha of Albania to lobby for recognitions for Kosova. Little Vuk is doing a great job of getting recognitions for Kosova. Even many of his "brother" Slav nations have recognized Kosova's independence, thanks to Vuk Jeremic!
Although B92 didn't published my comment of yesterday I am insisting today again with a comment about the last comment in the list. It seems someone from Tirana stupid coffee gossips has started to read something more (B92 website)than what she hears in this gossip sessions. There are many things to claim about Berisha but those listed by "lili" are totally ridiculous.
a man who is married with slobodenka rama, a man who has traded oil with milosevic and welcomed arkan in albania when kosovo was burning can not lobby for kosovo but can only do his job as a UDB fellow(the mother of slobodenka was the udb resident in albania)and can only desserve kosovo .
A man who is a friend of damir Fazlic,nephew of Stanicic can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo! a man who met serbian agent in Paris can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo!
So instead of spending his time in Copenhagen for the purposes of the conference, he hangs out in lobbies and hallyways trying to hawk merchandise that's either been already bought, or what would-be customers are not interested in buying.
Time wasted if you ask me.
Any key chains, mugs, t-shirts, or tote bags to go along with the sale?
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
Why are you implying that the only thing he did at Copenhagen was lobby for recognitions? That will have been one thing he will have done. Obviously his primmary purpose will have been the enviroment, espeically since Albania wants to join the EU therefore it will have to green-up to join. Many world leaders will have used Copenhagen as a chance to meet other world leaders for things other than the enviroment. Tadic will have talked to other leaders about things other than the enviroment, is he a waste too?
I thought Sali went to Copenhagen
to do the climate talks??!!
His lobbying for Kosovo amid decision making about saving the Earth was perceived there as as a vexation and nuisance.
But he hasn't noticed that he's out of context and a huge a bother to everyone- sophistication is none of his business.
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
greeks and serbs are going to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
"...since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo.."
(Mike, 20 December 2009 20:49)
Mike,
Who told you the above? If you read only Serbian government website no surprise then how accurate your statement is.
But let me remind you a very simple thing. More Serbia is trying to prevent Kosova independence more and more she is allenieting "its own people living in Kosova/o" and the "its own territory where this people live in".
That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
:Are you sure you are not talking about Serb FM Vuk, and allthose expenses around the globe for nothing."
(Kosova-USA
-- I wouldn't necessarily call what he does a waste of time since he's been able to secure a number of commitments from states not to recognize the Kosovo Parastate. I addition, he's been able to secure a number of gentlemen's agreements with larger Western powers that have, by now, accepted Serbia's non-acceptance of Kosovo's status. Obviously you're being overly critical for a man who may not succeed 100% of the time, but succeeds 75 - 85% of the time. Pretty good if you ask me, considering many people though, nay expected, Serbia to just roll over and play dead.
What praytell does Hyseni do again? I've yet to find any merit in his job. Shouldn't it have been his job to lobby in Copenhagen? Why must other people do his job? Was he or anyone in Pristina even invited to Copenhagen?
Dear Albanians,
I'm affraid you have no Idea what lobbying means nor how it goes. It is in the self-conception of Lobbyism that you don't talk about it and you would never call it Lobbying unless you want lay open somebodys illegitime purposes. The term lobbying has a sence close to bribery. Diplomats react very sensitive on that. Albanians not only will have no success with these kind of activities, they are doing big damage by the way they're acting.
So, we have leaders from all over the world trying to find a solution to fight climate change and save the planet and we have Mr Berisha who comes and says "Hey guys, why don't you recognise Kosovo!?"
I must say that is some very professional diplomacy.
For sure, the Albanian PM did not met with the Romanian president, Basescu, he was also in Copenhagen... Sad, because Basescu could explain him, once for all, that he and Kosovo leaders are on the wrong path when talking about Romania and its motives for not recognizing Kosovo independence - as Mr. Sejdiu, Kosovo president, did recently, saying that "Romania has domestic reasons for rejecting Kosovo independence" - probably pointing to the so-called "Transilvanian question" (?!), which seems to be the only thing Albanians on this forum know (in fact, they just approximate) about Romania's ethnic landscape.
It is also a pity that several Kosovo officials were denied a meeting with our president, this year, (actually, they were not able to meet a single top official in Bucharest, which is stupid, I mean our people should have been more open, talking would hurt nobody... but maybe they were busy with the electoral campaign). However, Basescu is in the best position to explain that Kosovo issue was not even discussed in the electoral debates, since the Romanian political class agrees on the non-recognition of Kosovo self-proclaimed independence. This being said, Albanian friends please, wait a little before replying "of course, Romania is afraid of encouraging Hungarian separatism in Transylvania, in February 2008 the Hungarian minority party abstained from voting in Romanian Parliament against the recognition, bla, bla."
In fact, the new Romanian government (announced couple hours ago) includes 3 members from the Hungarian minority party, one being Deputy-Prime Minister, the others two being the Minister for Environment and the Minister for Culture (yes, Culture, that ministry which deals with schools, textbooks, theaters, monuments and so on)... So much for the "domestic /minorities connected/ problems" precluding Romania's recognition of Kosovo, don't you think? And I forgot to mention: the new govt. is supported by a majority in the Parliament composed from the Liberal-Democrats (the former party of Basescu), the Hungarian minority party (5%), the Group of MPs representing Minorities Other than Hungarians (5%) and a group of "independents", ("defectors" from the Liberals and Social-Democrats).
So, we will have, again, a government with the support of the Hungarians in Romania, their party being, in the last decade, almost half time in power in Bucharest. And nobody goes crazy about it. Btw, Serb friends, I wish your leaders had same approach 20 years ago, maybe things would have been different now... just an opinion, only Gd knows the entire truth...
So, this is the political make-up of Romania, a country which is currently described on this forum as being primitive, non-democratic, poor&undeveloped, not worthy of EU&NATO membership, and SOOOO afraid of the danger posed by its minorities (99% loyal citizens to a state member in NATO and EU...) that is refusing to recognize Kosovo.... As if Kosovo could be seen by Romanian politicians as being anything more than a (very lucky!) separatist province 30 times smaller than Romania, with no leverage in foreign affairs and little economical importance, full of ex-guerrillas with plenty of guns&ammo and supported by US and West-Europeans in order to 1) show Muslims all over the world that big Christian powers have no prejudice against them, since they build a new Muslim nation in Europe, and 2) make forget the shame of failing to prevent Bosnia-Herzegovina catastrophe in nineties... (I know, it is a very prejudiced perspective, but who's to blame? Romanians? don't think so!)
Last but not least, something Albanians may consider "good news" (although it's not): Bogdan Aurescu, the diplomat who presented Romania's position on Kosovo issue in Hague, didn't make the list as Foreign Affairs Minister. He was replaced with our Ambassador in Paris, Theodor Baconski. It is not good news because this guy is older, and even more strict in promoting the "no recognition" approach. On the other hand, he enjoys to be in the media, so maybe he will grant an audience to Kosovo leaders, for the sake of publicity...
# greeks and serbs are going
to lobby ,north albania is serbian and is 80% serbs and south albania is Greek lands which we want full autonomy then independence
(tom, 20 December 2009 18:45)
Recommend (+11)
Poor comment (-9)
What's this
Tom,
If you really believe there are any Serbs living in Albania, do you have a list of names. There are only Albanian speakers in North Albania.
Maybe, 40,000 Greeks at most in Southern Albania which is 1.3% compared to 1,000,000 Albanians in Greece or 10%.
Serbia Greece maybe Russia VS Albania,Macedonia,Bosnia,Sllovenia,Croatia,Turkey and than maybe US,France,Germany,England.
(UNE, 20 December 2009 20:00)
First off, this comment is lacking any factual basis or common sense. Second, Bosnia is nearly 50% Serb so they will never do anything to turn against their fellow brethren in Serbia. Macedonia is still mostly Slav, and they too share a common bond with Serbs, so you have no argument here. The US has already fulfilled its interests in Kosovo so now its attention has turned elsewhere so forget their support in the future.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
Serbia alone can thrash “Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Slovenia,Croatia and Turkey” with one hand tied behind its back. Your loved US is not the same one of the 1990s – it’s a former shadow of its self, can you imagine that it sent NATO Gen/Sec to Moscow to seek help for Afghanistan. The rest are useless without the US, so it all speaks for itself.
(sj, 21 December 2009 12:33)
Maybe, but my dad can beat up your dad with his little finger.
UPDATE to my previous comment:
Another ethnic Hungarian/Romanian citizen, member of the Hungarian minority party, was officially nominated for the Bucharest Government, for the Ministry of Health! They are now 4 (3 ministers + the deputy PM) out of 17 members of the cabinet... The confirmation vote in the Parliament will take place on Tuesday.
It is not necessary for President Berisha of Albania to lobby for recognitions for Kosova. Little Vuk is doing a great job of getting recognitions for Kosova. Even many of his "brother" Slav nations have recognized Kosova's independence, thanks to Vuk Jeremic!
"That would be a logical conclusion. I hope you agree on that. The last thing the fight for further Kosova recognition will continue rest assured....
(EA, 20 December 2009 23:05) "
...with ever diminishing returns.
"some people are in dire need for geography and history leasons
(Kosova-USA, 20 December 2009 21:13) "
Mike:
Kosovars were not invetied to copenhagen because we have no UN seat yet,and there will be no UNMIK or anyone else dare to speak for Kosova anymore.
we are not big polluters anyway!
(Oso, 21 December 2009 09:00)
Would not dare!!!
Are you actually saying that UN would not dare do this or that if you don't approve?
How the mouse thinks he can take on the cat after falling in the barrel of wine.
a man who is married with slobodenka rama, a man who has traded oil with milosevic and welcomed arkan in albania when kosovo was burning can not lobby for kosovo but can only do his job as a UDB fellow(the mother of slobodenka was the udb resident in albania)and can only desserve kosovo .
A man who is a friend of damir Fazlic,nephew of Stanicic can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo! a man who met serbian agent in Paris can not lobby for kosovo but only deserve kosovo!
Although B92 didn't published my comment of yesterday I am insisting today again with a comment about the last comment in the list. It seems someone from Tirana stupid coffee gossips has started to read something more (B92 website)than what she hears in this gossip sessions. There are many things to claim about Berisha but those listed by "lili" are totally ridiculous.
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