"Kosovo recognition to continue"

This comment from Mr. Thaci really takes the biscuit. The dogs in the streets of Europe know exactly what's going on in occupied KiM. It is an International Disgrace. 'Kosova' (sic) is a failed entity. It has been transmogrified from a Holy place into a cesspit of drug trafficing; forced prostitution of girls and boys and other vile forms of organised crime. The unimaginably corrupt Albanian regime in the illegally occupied Southern Serbian province of Kosovo i Metohija is supported by a number of godforsaken, evil western politicians, especially from Berlin and Washington. (Believe me, they will be exposed for their satanic sordid antics and demonic capers.
KOSOVO IS SERBIA.
So what if one third of UN member nations accepted brown envelopes for recognising this Pristina regime. Two thirds of UN members respected International Law by not giving recognition to this abomination.

MB,Ireland

“Kosovo has presented a very dignified and professional argument which showed that it had the right to become a state,”

There are numerous secessionist movements across the world who have been denied statehood by the international community -- the arguments presented at the ICJ did not necessarily show that Kosovo deserves special treatment. Kosovo is not unique in this case, never was.

I also find it interesting that Thaci says "Kosovo" and not "Kosova"...

Well I don't know about that.

How much more small, meaningless pacific island countries can he beg to recognize Kosovo?

Kind of sad, you went from having these big western powers recognize you, to irrelevant islands that do not have the slightest clue of what's going on in the world.

so what.
It will never matter because of it's Serbia. Which means in the end it will remain Serbia.

ahum, yea,...very important...

:)

the cigarette-shop around the corner is also going to recognise the puppet-entity soon!

that will be the absolute climax of importance, of course.

Thaci said that Malawi’s decision to recognize Kosovo this week was very important, daily Koha Ditore stated.

“I would like to point out that this recognition is very important for Kosovo and our people at the end of the year,” Thaci said, adding that the process of recognition would continue.

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Thaci (and 99% of people in the world) have never even HEARD of Malawi- yet it was such an important recognition! When is LOGIC going to return to a serious discussion on Kosovo??? All of these "bought recognitions" only serve to distract and give false hope to the legitimacy of the UDI. Have we not evolved as human beings to the seriousness of nationhood??? Smoke and mirrors only last so long....hopefully the ICJ ruling will clear the air and remove all the political "smoke".

Don't be so enthusiastic HT. Recognitions have come very slowly for Kosovo. You should take a wait and see approach. Kosovo's supporters' arguments were not that overwhelming. There was no slam dunk, in NBA terms. I know you are trying to sell this to your people who are tired of the unemployment, corruption, and senseless dependence on foreign aid. The average Kosovo Albanian is living on peanuts a day while the corrupt politicians are living like kings off of the donations of good American people and other Western Europeans, including your Albanian diaspora. It's a real shame.
We still don't know what the outcome of the ICJ hearings will be. However, the arguments were very passionate on both sides. Unless you get a clear victory, you have no victory at all. I believe that's the reason the US representatives urged the ICJ to not make any decision at all. You may think that the only victory for Serbia would be an unambiguous decision that Kosovo's UDI is illegal. However, it's actually the other way around. Serbia has far less to lose than does Kosovo with an ambiguous decision. At any rate, yes you did get a recognition from Malawi, but until you get India, China, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, and Mexico, seven of the top 11 nations in terms of population, you have little solid ground to stand upon. In fact, only two of the top 10 countries (US and Japan), in terms of population, have recognized Kosovo. Granted, my country is important, but I wonder if the current administration were in place during the UDI, would the US have recognized Kosovo's UDI so quickly? It's actually an interesting question.
Be happy for today but as the popular saying goes, "show me the money" HT.

Kosovo Albanians receive little support from the nations of the African continent. Having had their continent carved up for centuries by the British, the French, the Dutch, the Germans and the Italians, African governments must naturally feel an obligation, if not a kinship, towards Serbia.

@Swiss
"If I would be a kosovar I would be ashamed to be "represented" by such"

You're right. Some of these people around Thaci, and for all that matter, he as well, are an absolute disgrace, even by the already poor regional standards. With their thuggery, they have done so much harm to the cause of Kosovo. In fact, I am convinced independence would have come way sooner and with much less controversy it if wasn't for these idiots. At the same time, people who could have made a really strong contribution to a civil democratic society, like Veton Surroi and some others, are marginalized. Not enough votes, what can you do. Anyway, this is a cross that the Kosovar society has to bear.
But what makes a bad situation impossible is Serbia's unchanged chauvinistic rhetoric, at least to Albanian ears. Lay off Kosovo already and let's focus on what really matters. This ridiculous stand-off only keeps the conflict going, and guess what, in this climate, only thuggs can thrive, regardless of their ethnicity.

In the event Kosovo is declared an officially independent state than my suggestion to pro-independence Albanians who reside in & outside of Kosovo is that you people should celebrate by organizing a special or major party. I'm still glad that my country(Canada) recognizes your status.

EA:
> Still a lot of work to be done for Kosova to persuade the hesitant countries to understand the new REALITY of Kosova...but one step at a time...)

Only trouble with this argument is that these 'steps' are getting smaller & smaller...

Countries that have recognised 'pseudo-state'..

..in 1st half of 2008 ... 43
..in 2nd half of 2008 ... 10
..in 1st half of 2009 ... 7
..in 2nd half of 2009 ... 4

That is the reality 'EA'.

Mr Thaci is right to highlight the importance of this new recognition. It is the first such recognition to take place soon after the ICJ hearing instigated by Serbia.
It simultaneously serves as a symbolic signal to a continuous process of recognitions and also as a reminder to the failures of state sponsored obstructionism.
Thaci talks rubbish when he says that this is due to Kosova’s able diplomacy.
Kosova’s diplomacy is almost nonexistent, fact, which makes Kosova’s diplomatic achievements even more striking.
A gradual grinding of Serbia’s perceptions of her role in the Balkans will slowly but surely mirror that of reality.
The policy of slow and steady pressure towards Serbia might be more fitting for a country that is gradually coming to terms with her turbulent past.

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci stated that the process of recognizing Kosovo independence would continue.

This too common sense that does not deserve publishing either.

It is like saying "people will continue to have lunches".

Often when it is too common sense it becomes silly to point out.

Peace

First Madonna, now Kosovo!! Wow, this place is really something important!!

Mr moppet show, whatever happend to kosovo (and I really hope that at the end a fair and lawfull solution will be found), it will not wash the blood you have on your hands and will not clear your conscience and bring back the people that you murdered...
If I would be a kosovar I would be ashamed to be "represented" by such!

I was just wondering and I hope it wont come to this:
How many of you people who are against Kosovas independence are willing to come there and die for SERBIA.
Just checking out.

"....Two thirds of UN members respected International Law by not giving recognition to this abomination.

MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 18 December 2009 15:23)

MB Ireland,

Would have been more accurate MB Serbia but that doesn't really matter because it is obvious where are you coming from)

You current "argument" about 2/3 of UN has not recognised Kosova independence I would add the word "yet". Can you tell us why Jeremic is going up and down Africa/Asia...regarding Kosova/o?

What is the number of countries that they have recognised Kosova/o indpendence since the proclamation? What is the relevance of the countries that have recognised Kosova compare to those that haven't done YET so?
Still a lot of work to be done for Kosova to persuade the hesitant countries to understand the new REALITY of Kosova...but one step at a time...)

Reading the unhappy and in some cases vitriolic comments of the Serbian camp one can firmly conclude that time is on Kosova's side. The recognitions will continue, especially after the ICJ decision or no-decision. The current number of 65 recognitions will go up to 75 than 85 than 95..than higher and higher. In the mean time Jeremic will continue to go to countries he didn't visite yet. He is probably one of the few politicians in the word if not the politician, who visited the most countries. Hillary Clinton's record most be good too (including the trips she took as first lady).

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Thaci (and 99% of people in the world) have never even HEARD of Malawi- yet it was such an important recognition! When is LOGIC going to return to a serious discussion on Kosovo??? All of these "bought recognitions" only serve to distract and give false hope to the legitimacy of the UDI. Have we not evolved as human beings to the seriousness of nationhood??? Smoke and mirrors only last so long....hopefully the ICJ ruling will clear the air and remove all the political "smoke".
(Rick, 18 December 2009 14:12
Funny how every country is important when they are on the "have not recognized (yet) list" but they become insignificant when they do recognize.
The importance is the timing after the closure of testimony at the ICJ and before the opinion.
In the scope of things does it mean a whole lot? It just depends on the importance you place on: A slap on the back of Kosovo and a slap in the face of Serbia.

Peter:
“Countries that have recognised 'pseudo-state'..

..in 1st half of 2008 ... 43
..in 2nd half of 2008 ... 10
..in 1st half of 2009 ... 7
..in 2nd half of 2009 ... 4”

How about this Peter (from wiki, true, but not controversial):

“This (Irish) Dáil in January 1919 issued a Declaration of Independence and proclaimed an Irish Republic. The Declaration was mainly a restatement of the 1916 Proclamation with the additional provision that Ireland was no longer a part of the United Kingdom. The new Irish Republic was recognised internationally only by the Russian Republic.”

So only Russia had the backbone to recognize Ireland’s UDI in 1919. How many countries recognize Ireland now?

Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.

#Dim Tuc

It is very wrong to compare the struggle for Irish Independence from Britain with what happened in Kosovo in 1999 and since.
The Irish struggle was a defensive campaign to rid the country of a foreign occupier while Kosovo on the other hand was always part of Serbia with a majority Serb population until WW2. Stari Serbia (Kosovo i Metohija)was the seat of Serbian Tsars for centuries.

The Irish fight for freedom was a popular revolt while the 'secession' of Kosovo was connived and manipulated by foreign powers.

I also believe that no minority on Earth enjoyed such priviledges and rights as the Albanian majority population in the Southern Serbian province of Kosovo i Metohija since WW2.

MB,Ireland

@Joe

On the contrary,time is on the Serbian side.
UN1244 is still in force (you know Kosovo is part of Serbia and that stuff).
NATO,EU are blocked by Spain and others ,UN is blocked forever by Russia(fate sealed after Georgia events in August 2008).
And the influence of China and Russia is growing and growing while the US GDP debt is approaching 100% and rumours go that the dollar will cease to exist as an reserve currency.
These are the facts my friend and no wishful or emotional thinking is going to change that!
Very soon many small states will reorient and derecognize Kosovo,you know China and Russia are investing BIG TIME in Africa,Asia and South America...
If one carefully analizes the geopolitical situation he finds out that the Albanians stand on very wobbly legs...

I actually wonder if there're any anti-independence Kosovar-Albanians? If there are and if they can't handle Kosovo receiving recognition than that's their problem.

He said that there would be even more recognitions because of the debate before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague that was held regarding Kosovo's unilateral independence declaration.



Mr. Thaçi, please don't blame the ICJ for all your intended objectives. It's not that I don't like him but it's just that he shouldn't have said this. The people of Kosova know about your success and your failure.

Kosovo recognition might not solve any real problems.

DimTuc:
> Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.

Are indeed many cases of indigenous peoples throwing off the shackles of colonialism both before & after the creation of the UN.

But the case of Kosovo isn't one of them.

Which is why the proponents of the 'pseudo-state's' UDI have to rely on ludicrous arguments such as Kosovo's 'uniqueness' rather than the well established path to independence that a truly indigenous people would have at their disposal.

And which is why the pace of recognitions has slown to a trickle.

And will eventually stop.

Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.
(DimTuc, 19 December 2009 17:40)
Ireland has always been inhabitated by the Irish, whereas Kosovo is like the English moving to Ireland in the last 40 years in large numbers and now wantimg to break away from that country. That’s the difference.
But don’t get too comfortable your beloved NATO is dying on its feet and begging the Russians for help. Here is that latest news on this front; Yes, Russia will help but at a massive cost, NATO must disappear and be replaced with a new European security organization. You Albanians know what that means? don’t you????????

"to continue"
very funny!

Yes, recognition of Kosovo will continue because in the future there will 2 Kosovos. One Kosovo will be Serbian controlled. All the Serbs will be controlled by that Serbian government. The other Kosovo will be Albanian controlled. All the Albanians will be controlled by an ALbanian government. There will be 2 governments. One government will pertain to the Serbs. The other government will pertain to the Albanians. Eventually, the Serbs will make physical attempts to regain possession and control of their property-their churches, schools, monasteries, to rebuild what was destroyed or damaged. The USA and NATO will have No desire to interfer because this will be a matter of people taking back their property and not a matter of thousands and thousands of ALbanians claiming genocide,being slaughtered in the streets, and running to live as refugees in neighboring countries. How did Gandhi make the British lose control of India and give the Indians back their own country? By Indians demanding their rights and property and allowing prisons to overflow with Indians willing to get arrested. If the Serbs did the same thing, eventually Kosovo will go back to the Serbs, at least the parts that clearly belonged to the Serbs in the first place. The parts of Kosovo that clearly belong to the Albanians can continue to belong to the Albanians. In the 1950's and 1960's how did the black people of the USA regain their civil rights including the right to vote? From the Reverend Martin Luther King who admitted that he used the same non violent, peaceful protests in which there were massive arrests, which Gandi used!

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci stated that the process of recognizing Kosovo independence would continue.

This too common sense that does not deserve publishing either.

It is like saying "people will continue to have lunches".

Often when it is too common sense it becomes silly to point out.

Peace

I was just wondering and I hope it wont come to this:
How many of you people who are against Kosovas independence are willing to come there and die for SERBIA.
Just checking out.

This comment from Mr. Thaci really takes the biscuit. The dogs in the streets of Europe know exactly what's going on in occupied KiM. It is an International Disgrace. 'Kosova' (sic) is a failed entity. It has been transmogrified from a Holy place into a cesspit of drug trafficing; forced prostitution of girls and boys and other vile forms of organised crime. The unimaginably corrupt Albanian regime in the illegally occupied Southern Serbian province of Kosovo i Metohija is supported by a number of godforsaken, evil western politicians, especially from Berlin and Washington. (Believe me, they will be exposed for their satanic sordid antics and demonic capers.
KOSOVO IS SERBIA.
So what if one third of UN member nations accepted brown envelopes for recognising this Pristina regime. Two thirds of UN members respected International Law by not giving recognition to this abomination.

MB,Ireland

Mr Thaci is right to highlight the importance of this new recognition. It is the first such recognition to take place soon after the ICJ hearing instigated by Serbia.
It simultaneously serves as a symbolic signal to a continuous process of recognitions and also as a reminder to the failures of state sponsored obstructionism.
Thaci talks rubbish when he says that this is due to Kosova’s able diplomacy.
Kosova’s diplomacy is almost nonexistent, fact, which makes Kosova’s diplomatic achievements even more striking.
A gradual grinding of Serbia’s perceptions of her role in the Balkans will slowly but surely mirror that of reality.
The policy of slow and steady pressure towards Serbia might be more fitting for a country that is gradually coming to terms with her turbulent past.

"....Two thirds of UN members respected International Law by not giving recognition to this abomination.

MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 18 December 2009 15:23)

MB Ireland,

Would have been more accurate MB Serbia but that doesn't really matter because it is obvious where are you coming from)

You current "argument" about 2/3 of UN has not recognised Kosova independence I would add the word "yet". Can you tell us why Jeremic is going up and down Africa/Asia...regarding Kosova/o?

What is the number of countries that they have recognised Kosova/o indpendence since the proclamation? What is the relevance of the countries that have recognised Kosova compare to those that haven't done YET so?
Still a lot of work to be done for Kosova to persuade the hesitant countries to understand the new REALITY of Kosova...but one step at a time...)

ahum, yea,...very important...

:)

the cigarette-shop around the corner is also going to recognise the puppet-entity soon!

that will be the absolute climax of importance, of course.

He said that there would be even more recognitions because of the debate before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague that was held regarding Kosovo's unilateral independence declaration.



Mr. Thaçi, please don't blame the ICJ for all your intended objectives. It's not that I don't like him but it's just that he shouldn't have said this. The people of Kosova know about your success and your failure.

so what.
It will never matter because of it's Serbia. Which means in the end it will remain Serbia.

Mr moppet show, whatever happend to kosovo (and I really hope that at the end a fair and lawfull solution will be found), it will not wash the blood you have on your hands and will not clear your conscience and bring back the people that you murdered...
If I would be a kosovar I would be ashamed to be "represented" by such!

I actually wonder if there're any anti-independence Kosovar-Albanians? If there are and if they can't handle Kosovo receiving recognition than that's their problem.

Well I don't know about that.

How much more small, meaningless pacific island countries can he beg to recognize Kosovo?

Kind of sad, you went from having these big western powers recognize you, to irrelevant islands that do not have the slightest clue of what's going on in the world.

Kosovo Albanians receive little support from the nations of the African continent. Having had their continent carved up for centuries by the British, the French, the Dutch, the Germans and the Italians, African governments must naturally feel an obligation, if not a kinship, towards Serbia.

“Kosovo has presented a very dignified and professional argument which showed that it had the right to become a state,”

There are numerous secessionist movements across the world who have been denied statehood by the international community -- the arguments presented at the ICJ did not necessarily show that Kosovo deserves special treatment. Kosovo is not unique in this case, never was.

I also find it interesting that Thaci says "Kosovo" and not "Kosova"...

Don't be so enthusiastic HT. Recognitions have come very slowly for Kosovo. You should take a wait and see approach. Kosovo's supporters' arguments were not that overwhelming. There was no slam dunk, in NBA terms. I know you are trying to sell this to your people who are tired of the unemployment, corruption, and senseless dependence on foreign aid. The average Kosovo Albanian is living on peanuts a day while the corrupt politicians are living like kings off of the donations of good American people and other Western Europeans, including your Albanian diaspora. It's a real shame.
We still don't know what the outcome of the ICJ hearings will be. However, the arguments were very passionate on both sides. Unless you get a clear victory, you have no victory at all. I believe that's the reason the US representatives urged the ICJ to not make any decision at all. You may think that the only victory for Serbia would be an unambiguous decision that Kosovo's UDI is illegal. However, it's actually the other way around. Serbia has far less to lose than does Kosovo with an ambiguous decision. At any rate, yes you did get a recognition from Malawi, but until you get India, China, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, and Mexico, seven of the top 11 nations in terms of population, you have little solid ground to stand upon. In fact, only two of the top 10 countries (US and Japan), in terms of population, have recognized Kosovo. Granted, my country is important, but I wonder if the current administration were in place during the UDI, would the US have recognized Kosovo's UDI so quickly? It's actually an interesting question.
Be happy for today but as the popular saying goes, "show me the money" HT.

Reading the unhappy and in some cases vitriolic comments of the Serbian camp one can firmly conclude that time is on Kosova's side. The recognitions will continue, especially after the ICJ decision or no-decision. The current number of 65 recognitions will go up to 75 than 85 than 95..than higher and higher. In the mean time Jeremic will continue to go to countries he didn't visite yet. He is probably one of the few politicians in the word if not the politician, who visited the most countries. Hillary Clinton's record most be good too (including the trips she took as first lady).

Thaci said that Malawi’s decision to recognize Kosovo this week was very important, daily Koha Ditore stated.

“I would like to point out that this recognition is very important for Kosovo and our people at the end of the year,” Thaci said, adding that the process of recognition would continue.

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Thaci (and 99% of people in the world) have never even HEARD of Malawi- yet it was such an important recognition! When is LOGIC going to return to a serious discussion on Kosovo??? All of these "bought recognitions" only serve to distract and give false hope to the legitimacy of the UDI. Have we not evolved as human beings to the seriousness of nationhood??? Smoke and mirrors only last so long....hopefully the ICJ ruling will clear the air and remove all the political "smoke".

@Swiss
"If I would be a kosovar I would be ashamed to be "represented" by such"

You're right. Some of these people around Thaci, and for all that matter, he as well, are an absolute disgrace, even by the already poor regional standards. With their thuggery, they have done so much harm to the cause of Kosovo. In fact, I am convinced independence would have come way sooner and with much less controversy it if wasn't for these idiots. At the same time, people who could have made a really strong contribution to a civil democratic society, like Veton Surroi and some others, are marginalized. Not enough votes, what can you do. Anyway, this is a cross that the Kosovar society has to bear.
But what makes a bad situation impossible is Serbia's unchanged chauvinistic rhetoric, at least to Albanian ears. Lay off Kosovo already and let's focus on what really matters. This ridiculous stand-off only keeps the conflict going, and guess what, in this climate, only thuggs can thrive, regardless of their ethnicity.

EA:
> Still a lot of work to be done for Kosova to persuade the hesitant countries to understand the new REALITY of Kosova...but one step at a time...)

Only trouble with this argument is that these 'steps' are getting smaller & smaller...

Countries that have recognised 'pseudo-state'..

..in 1st half of 2008 ... 43
..in 2nd half of 2008 ... 10
..in 1st half of 2009 ... 7
..in 2nd half of 2009 ... 4

That is the reality 'EA'.

@Joe

On the contrary,time is on the Serbian side.
UN1244 is still in force (you know Kosovo is part of Serbia and that stuff).
NATO,EU are blocked by Spain and others ,UN is blocked forever by Russia(fate sealed after Georgia events in August 2008).
And the influence of China and Russia is growing and growing while the US GDP debt is approaching 100% and rumours go that the dollar will cease to exist as an reserve currency.
These are the facts my friend and no wishful or emotional thinking is going to change that!
Very soon many small states will reorient and derecognize Kosovo,you know China and Russia are investing BIG TIME in Africa,Asia and South America...
If one carefully analizes the geopolitical situation he finds out that the Albanians stand on very wobbly legs...

First Madonna, now Kosovo!! Wow, this place is really something important!!

What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Thaci (and 99% of people in the world) have never even HEARD of Malawi- yet it was such an important recognition! When is LOGIC going to return to a serious discussion on Kosovo??? All of these "bought recognitions" only serve to distract and give false hope to the legitimacy of the UDI. Have we not evolved as human beings to the seriousness of nationhood??? Smoke and mirrors only last so long....hopefully the ICJ ruling will clear the air and remove all the political "smoke".
(Rick, 18 December 2009 14:12
Funny how every country is important when they are on the "have not recognized (yet) list" but they become insignificant when they do recognize.
The importance is the timing after the closure of testimony at the ICJ and before the opinion.
In the scope of things does it mean a whole lot? It just depends on the importance you place on: A slap on the back of Kosovo and a slap in the face of Serbia.

Kosovo recognition might not solve any real problems.

In the event Kosovo is declared an officially independent state than my suggestion to pro-independence Albanians who reside in & outside of Kosovo is that you people should celebrate by organizing a special or major party. I'm still glad that my country(Canada) recognizes your status.

#Dim Tuc

It is very wrong to compare the struggle for Irish Independence from Britain with what happened in Kosovo in 1999 and since.
The Irish struggle was a defensive campaign to rid the country of a foreign occupier while Kosovo on the other hand was always part of Serbia with a majority Serb population until WW2. Stari Serbia (Kosovo i Metohija)was the seat of Serbian Tsars for centuries.

The Irish fight for freedom was a popular revolt while the 'secession' of Kosovo was connived and manipulated by foreign powers.

I also believe that no minority on Earth enjoyed such priviledges and rights as the Albanian majority population in the Southern Serbian province of Kosovo i Metohija since WW2.

MB,Ireland

Peter:
“Countries that have recognised 'pseudo-state'..

..in 1st half of 2008 ... 43
..in 2nd half of 2008 ... 10
..in 1st half of 2009 ... 7
..in 2nd half of 2009 ... 4”

How about this Peter (from wiki, true, but not controversial):

“This (Irish) Dáil in January 1919 issued a Declaration of Independence and proclaimed an Irish Republic. The Declaration was mainly a restatement of the 1916 Proclamation with the additional provision that Ireland was no longer a part of the United Kingdom. The new Irish Republic was recognised internationally only by the Russian Republic.”

So only Russia had the backbone to recognize Ireland’s UDI in 1919. How many countries recognize Ireland now?

Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.

Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.
(DimTuc, 19 December 2009 17:40)
Ireland has always been inhabitated by the Irish, whereas Kosovo is like the English moving to Ireland in the last 40 years in large numbers and now wantimg to break away from that country. That’s the difference.
But don’t get too comfortable your beloved NATO is dying on its feet and begging the Russians for help. Here is that latest news on this front; Yes, Russia will help but at a massive cost, NATO must disappear and be replaced with a new European security organization. You Albanians know what that means? don’t you????????

DimTuc:
> Sorry to remind people of just what a normal and common thing a UDI is, and how often it has happened in the 20th century.

Are indeed many cases of indigenous peoples throwing off the shackles of colonialism both before & after the creation of the UN.

But the case of Kosovo isn't one of them.

Which is why the proponents of the 'pseudo-state's' UDI have to rely on ludicrous arguments such as Kosovo's 'uniqueness' rather than the well established path to independence that a truly indigenous people would have at their disposal.

And which is why the pace of recognitions has slown to a trickle.

And will eventually stop.

"to continue"
very funny!

Yes, recognition of Kosovo will continue because in the future there will 2 Kosovos. One Kosovo will be Serbian controlled. All the Serbs will be controlled by that Serbian government. The other Kosovo will be Albanian controlled. All the Albanians will be controlled by an ALbanian government. There will be 2 governments. One government will pertain to the Serbs. The other government will pertain to the Albanians. Eventually, the Serbs will make physical attempts to regain possession and control of their property-their churches, schools, monasteries, to rebuild what was destroyed or damaged. The USA and NATO will have No desire to interfer because this will be a matter of people taking back their property and not a matter of thousands and thousands of ALbanians claiming genocide,being slaughtered in the streets, and running to live as refugees in neighboring countries. How did Gandhi make the British lose control of India and give the Indians back their own country? By Indians demanding their rights and property and allowing prisons to overflow with Indians willing to get arrested. If the Serbs did the same thing, eventually Kosovo will go back to the Serbs, at least the parts that clearly belonged to the Serbs in the first place. The parts of Kosovo that clearly belong to the Albanians can continue to belong to the Albanians. In the 1950's and 1960's how did the black people of the USA regain their civil rights including the right to vote? From the Reverend Martin Luther King who admitted that he used the same non violent, peaceful protests in which there were massive arrests, which Gandi used!