"Serbians should decide on joining NATO"

NATO bombed us and you want our troops to die in Afghanistan. No thanks I’m much happier seeing your young men and women sacrificing themselves for freedom and democracy.

Message to NATO 'humanitarian bombers': Keep your filthy hands off of Serbia.

I think Serbs would vote for the plague before they voted to join NATO.

Serbia's neutrality is enshrined within our constitution and since we are strongly against joining this organisation, even a referendum would be pointless.

If Belgrade decides to join NATO, I would find it very difficult to visit Serbia ever again.
It would show to me that the government in Belgrade places more faith in the dollar than its Nation's soul.
Just look at what NATO has done to Serbia over the last 2 decades. All the senseless killing and destruction carried out at the behest of certain ugly Western governments who also conjured up malicious lies against Serbia so as to hoodwink the International Community.
My country, Ireland, is not, nor has ever been in NATO and we have done quite well as a Nation without them and we are actually in the North Atlantic Ocean.

MB,Ireland

Serbia should not be part of any western aggression to surround Russia and fight israels wars in the middle east, on the contrary, Russia, not €USSR/USA or for that matter israel, is our friend and ally. How stupid do they think we are? First bomb and kill us & bombing our infrastructure and then expect us to join in their colonial wars. Not even a western imposed client regime like the current one in Belgrade would be suicidal enough to do that..

That's not much different than asking the surviving members of a massacred family to help the killers wash their blood off and help them hide the incriminating evidence.

Let the Albanians sacrifice their young men for the NATO. It would be payback for all that theUS/EU has done for them. Serbs have no business killing Afgans in their own country.

I'm increasingly coming to believe that NATO should have gone the way of Warsaw Pact. The only strategic thing I see it serve for the US is a fabulous way to get a bunch of European countries to split the bill with us, even though we do most of the drinking.

Serbia does not need to join nato. Why should we? To thank them for murdering our people indiscriminately (ALL BASED ON LIES AND FABRICATIONS), for damage to infrastructure, for dropping bombs with depleted urainum, for stealing our land to give to albanain terrorists? nato you are just an occupier of our land! I bet they can't stand the fact the G. Medvedev came for a visit to Serbia.

If Serbia wants to add insult to injury then join NATO. However, there are no advantages for Serbia by joining. Serbia is by far the strongest military power in former Yugoslavia so who can threaten us and get away with it? Let the albs and croats die for oil.

Serbia will never join nato. Those who murdered us, always showed us in a bad light in front of the world and not how we trully are now want us to become their slaves. To eat bullets for their ideas in Iraq. Serbia's place is with Russia! With our brothers with whom we always stood together. And together we're stronger. And that is the opinion of Serb people. america brought only death, uranium waste and their sick way of life to Serbia, nothing more. End.

Serbians already have decided about NATO, and if you didn't get it I will spell it out for you mr Rasmussen:
NO THANK YOU!

What are you going to suggest next, that Israel officially recognizes the third Reich as "a stable nation for peace"...?

No. Croatia, Slovenia, and Albania among others decide that.
(Mirub Jager, 14 December 2009 17:35)

As if NATO would bother asking these tin pot countries the time of day! Get it through your head these countries are there to send troops to Afghanistan and to die not to pontificate on who or what gets into this organization.

It's really not clear even why this organization still exist? What is its purpose?

And it's even harder to see how would Serbia benefit from joining NATO?
If you look at the map, you will see that the region is surrounded by NATO countries.
Every potential agressor (Iran? North Korea? Not likely.) would have to go through NATO land or airspace to get to Serbia.
The only one that could possibly attack Serbia is NATO itself.
Is he suggesting that we should join to be safe from their attack?
Looks like G.W. Bush's "If you are not with us, you are against us" idea is thriving without G.W. Bush.

As soon as you recognize Kosova? So, I sugest hurry up Bozidar.

"Serbians should decide on joining NATO"

That would be nice but, Croatia, Slovenia and Albania among others decide on the issue.

Good job in Kosovo Nato
hopefully Serbia will join soon.

How stupid do they think we are?well if Tadic and the rest are anything to go by,very stupid.

"Serbians should decide on joining NATO"

No. Croatia, Slovenia, and Albania among others decide that.

It would have to be a brave politician indeed who would even entertain the idea.
He would be cutting his own political throat.

If NATO apologizes for bombing Serbia and the theft serbian territory - than will be no problem for any form of cooperation.

MB,
NATO can do without Serbia just as Serbia can do without you.
Ireland did not "do good" just because they didn't join NATO.
As far as sharing common responsibility for European peace and security Ireland did a good job by ducking the issue. I guess they ran so far from it they are on verge of Atlantic Ocean.

Is he suggesting that we should join to be safe from their attack?
Looks like G.W. Bush's "If you are not with us, you are against us" idea is thriving without G.W. Bush.
(Sreten, 15 December 2009 04:46)

In the good old mafia days in Chicago it was called paying for protection.

Pay us so that we protect you from us.

Mirub Jager,

Albania and Croatia have nothing to offer NATO in terms of military equipment. Albanian and Croatian military equipment and advances could not catch up with American in terms of quantity or quality for another 200 years. I think this is pretty obvious.
The only thing they can offer them are young men and women who will be sent to die in the colonial wars as well as free use of their land - think of it as unforced occupation

I know one thing for sure - If God forbid any American enemy from the East is to declare war, they're not going to be blowing Serbia up - they'll be blowing American bases/allies/stations and military cooperators.

Serbia has no place in such aggressive, destructive pact.

america brought only death, uranium waste and their sick way of life to Serbia, nothing more. End.
(Bane, 14 December 2009 18:43)

How about $20 billion of aid ($50Billion in today's value), that made your life so much better for so many years. It was not Russia who gave you that money, it was the west, and esspecially US. At least have some integrity to recognize this help before you become a Russian pawn in the Balkans.

It is almost impossible how a country such as Serbia is presently in total state of confusion.

You have a gov't who wants nothing more than sign SAA with EU or start membership talks with the same. However, on the other side you have most of population against it (the posters here make it seem so). Then you have the military and gov't as well begging to join NATO. Then you have our dear posters scorning Nato for what it is and what it does.

Meanwhile Albania is a fullfledged member of NATO (with veto right), a signed SAA, applied for membership in EU.

Why join an alliance that is getting its behind kicked in Af-Pak? Let others die for it.

How about $20 billion of aid ($50Billion in today's value), that made your life so much better for so many years. It was not Russia who gave you that money, it was the west, and esspecially US. At least have some integrity to recognize this help before you become a Russian pawn in the Balkans.
(Denis, 15 December 2009 05:00)

So according to your logic, the US gives out money without strings but the Russians are evil and only give to enslave you. I love this simplistic view of the world.

Anyway you Albanians did get a huge chunk of that money with free electricity, land taxes etc. so I would see why your greatfull. This is now long gone, but you might ask your US friends for a cent or two, if they have any left.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:09
Yes I know, Albania’s third donkey regiment is ready and its men are armed with pitch forks and catapults. Shake in your boots VS.

Meanwhile Albania is a fullfledged member of NATO (with veto right), a signed SAA, applied for membership in EU.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:07)

That does not mean anything. It was just political issue to thank Albania for fighting for Bush in Avganistan.

Even though you are member of NATO signed SAA, applied for membership in EU, it does not mean that you will not become member of EU before Serbia.

Do you wanna bet?

'Albanian and Croatian military equipment and advances could not catch up with American in terms of quantity or quality for another 200 years.'

Like the other smaller Nato countries they will probably offer specialized units - demining, chem-bio-nuclear decontamination, medical facilities, logistics of various kinds.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:09)
You are wrong - Albania only can send cannon fodder for Afghanistan ;) At December 2 president Sali Berisha said that Albania will send more soldiers for Afghanistan mountains to kill their muslim brothers. Are You happy????

Georgia - which hasn't joined yet, of course - is sending a large contingent to Afghanistan (a heavy brigade and two light companies - about 1000 men) specifically so they gain experience in actual fighting. For some reason they think this might come in handy some day.
(Amer, 16 December 2009 16:41)

Why? So they can get their behind kicked by the Russians again. They are going to Afghanistan because Shakashvilli is being told what to do by the US. I think you K-ALbs should be volunteering in droves to show your appreciation. I'm sure the Talibs will greet you warmly.

I would not answer that question too early.

NATO bombed us in 1999, illegaly and mercilessly and helped the criminal greater-albanian expansion on southern serbian territory.

on the other side, that was NATO of 1999, we should take into account that in the future Serbia could use NATO-forces to neutralize those criminal elements poisoning southern Serbia.

Serbia as a member could come to the point to ask the alliance, or at least those parts of the alliance that support Serbia, to help in Serbia in that cause.

so, let´s just see what future brings - it is just not definitely said that NATO-accession would be definitely and solely bad for Serbia.

but that´s a question, as I said in the beginning, that should be answered later, much later.

'Why join an alliance that is getting its behind kicked in Af-Pak? Let others die for it.
(Don Draper, 16 December 2009 01:00) '

Georgia - which hasn't joined yet, of course - is sending a large contingent to Afghanistan (a heavy brigade and two light companies - about 1000 men) specifically so they gain experience in actual fighting. For some reason they think this might come in handy some day.

Good job in Kosovo Nato
hopefully Serbia will join soon.

As soon as you recognize Kosova? So, I sugest hurry up Bozidar.

"Serbians should decide on joining NATO"

That would be nice but, Croatia, Slovenia and Albania among others decide on the issue.

"Serbians should decide on joining NATO"

No. Croatia, Slovenia, and Albania among others decide that.

MB,
NATO can do without Serbia just as Serbia can do without you.
Ireland did not "do good" just because they didn't join NATO.
As far as sharing common responsibility for European peace and security Ireland did a good job by ducking the issue. I guess they ran so far from it they are on verge of Atlantic Ocean.

Let the Albanians sacrifice their young men for the NATO. It would be payback for all that theUS/EU has done for them. Serbs have no business killing Afgans in their own country.

NATO bombed us and you want our troops to die in Afghanistan. No thanks I’m much happier seeing your young men and women sacrificing themselves for freedom and democracy.

america brought only death, uranium waste and their sick way of life to Serbia, nothing more. End.
(Bane, 14 December 2009 18:43)

How about $20 billion of aid ($50Billion in today's value), that made your life so much better for so many years. It was not Russia who gave you that money, it was the west, and esspecially US. At least have some integrity to recognize this help before you become a Russian pawn in the Balkans.

If Serbia wants to add insult to injury then join NATO. However, there are no advantages for Serbia by joining. Serbia is by far the strongest military power in former Yugoslavia so who can threaten us and get away with it? Let the albs and croats die for oil.

Message to NATO 'humanitarian bombers': Keep your filthy hands off of Serbia.

Serbia does not need to join nato. Why should we? To thank them for murdering our people indiscriminately (ALL BASED ON LIES AND FABRICATIONS), for damage to infrastructure, for dropping bombs with depleted urainum, for stealing our land to give to albanain terrorists? nato you are just an occupier of our land! I bet they can't stand the fact the G. Medvedev came for a visit to Serbia.

If Belgrade decides to join NATO, I would find it very difficult to visit Serbia ever again.
It would show to me that the government in Belgrade places more faith in the dollar than its Nation's soul.
Just look at what NATO has done to Serbia over the last 2 decades. All the senseless killing and destruction carried out at the behest of certain ugly Western governments who also conjured up malicious lies against Serbia so as to hoodwink the International Community.
My country, Ireland, is not, nor has ever been in NATO and we have done quite well as a Nation without them and we are actually in the North Atlantic Ocean.

MB,Ireland

Serbia should not be part of any western aggression to surround Russia and fight israels wars in the middle east, on the contrary, Russia, not €USSR/USA or for that matter israel, is our friend and ally. How stupid do they think we are? First bomb and kill us & bombing our infrastructure and then expect us to join in their colonial wars. Not even a western imposed client regime like the current one in Belgrade would be suicidal enough to do that..

Serbia's neutrality is enshrined within our constitution and since we are strongly against joining this organisation, even a referendum would be pointless.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.

I would not answer that question too early.

NATO bombed us in 1999, illegaly and mercilessly and helped the criminal greater-albanian expansion on southern serbian territory.

on the other side, that was NATO of 1999, we should take into account that in the future Serbia could use NATO-forces to neutralize those criminal elements poisoning southern Serbia.

Serbia as a member could come to the point to ask the alliance, or at least those parts of the alliance that support Serbia, to help in Serbia in that cause.

so, let´s just see what future brings - it is just not definitely said that NATO-accession would be definitely and solely bad for Serbia.

but that´s a question, as I said in the beginning, that should be answered later, much later.

That's not much different than asking the surviving members of a massacred family to help the killers wash their blood off and help them hide the incriminating evidence.

Serbia will never join nato. Those who murdered us, always showed us in a bad light in front of the world and not how we trully are now want us to become their slaves. To eat bullets for their ideas in Iraq. Serbia's place is with Russia! With our brothers with whom we always stood together. And together we're stronger. And that is the opinion of Serb people. america brought only death, uranium waste and their sick way of life to Serbia, nothing more. End.

I think Serbs would vote for the plague before they voted to join NATO.

I'm increasingly coming to believe that NATO should have gone the way of Warsaw Pact. The only strategic thing I see it serve for the US is a fabulous way to get a bunch of European countries to split the bill with us, even though we do most of the drinking.

It is almost impossible how a country such as Serbia is presently in total state of confusion.

You have a gov't who wants nothing more than sign SAA with EU or start membership talks with the same. However, on the other side you have most of population against it (the posters here make it seem so). Then you have the military and gov't as well begging to join NATO. Then you have our dear posters scorning Nato for what it is and what it does.

Meanwhile Albania is a fullfledged member of NATO (with veto right), a signed SAA, applied for membership in EU.

If NATO apologizes for bombing Serbia and the theft serbian territory - than will be no problem for any form of cooperation.

Is he suggesting that we should join to be safe from their attack?
Looks like G.W. Bush's "If you are not with us, you are against us" idea is thriving without G.W. Bush.
(Sreten, 15 December 2009 04:46)

In the good old mafia days in Chicago it was called paying for protection.

Pay us so that we protect you from us.

Mirub Jager,

Albania and Croatia have nothing to offer NATO in terms of military equipment. Albanian and Croatian military equipment and advances could not catch up with American in terms of quantity or quality for another 200 years. I think this is pretty obvious.
The only thing they can offer them are young men and women who will be sent to die in the colonial wars as well as free use of their land - think of it as unforced occupation

I know one thing for sure - If God forbid any American enemy from the East is to declare war, they're not going to be blowing Serbia up - they'll be blowing American bases/allies/stations and military cooperators.

Serbia has no place in such aggressive, destructive pact.

No. Croatia, Slovenia, and Albania among others decide that.
(Mirub Jager, 14 December 2009 17:35)

As if NATO would bother asking these tin pot countries the time of day! Get it through your head these countries are there to send troops to Afghanistan and to die not to pontificate on who or what gets into this organization.

Serbians already have decided about NATO, and if you didn't get it I will spell it out for you mr Rasmussen:
NO THANK YOU!

What are you going to suggest next, that Israel officially recognizes the third Reich as "a stable nation for peace"...?

It would have to be a brave politician indeed who would even entertain the idea.
He would be cutting his own political throat.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:09
Yes I know, Albania’s third donkey regiment is ready and its men are armed with pitch forks and catapults. Shake in your boots VS.

One just has to think about a fact. Albania as a member of NATO can have troops in Kosovo and Bosnia while Serb military can watch on their binoculars beyond the border.

My European intuition says if I was a Serb that would be a reason enough to join NATO.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:09)
You are wrong - Albania only can send cannon fodder for Afghanistan ;) At December 2 president Sali Berisha said that Albania will send more soldiers for Afghanistan mountains to kill their muslim brothers. Are You happy????

How stupid do they think we are?well if Tadic and the rest are anything to go by,very stupid.

It's really not clear even why this organization still exist? What is its purpose?

And it's even harder to see how would Serbia benefit from joining NATO?
If you look at the map, you will see that the region is surrounded by NATO countries.
Every potential agressor (Iran? North Korea? Not likely.) would have to go through NATO land or airspace to get to Serbia.
The only one that could possibly attack Serbia is NATO itself.
Is he suggesting that we should join to be safe from their attack?
Looks like G.W. Bush's "If you are not with us, you are against us" idea is thriving without G.W. Bush.

Georgia - which hasn't joined yet, of course - is sending a large contingent to Afghanistan (a heavy brigade and two light companies - about 1000 men) specifically so they gain experience in actual fighting. For some reason they think this might come in handy some day.
(Amer, 16 December 2009 16:41)

Why? So they can get their behind kicked by the Russians again. They are going to Afghanistan because Shakashvilli is being told what to do by the US. I think you K-ALbs should be volunteering in droves to show your appreciation. I'm sure the Talibs will greet you warmly.

'Albanian and Croatian military equipment and advances could not catch up with American in terms of quantity or quality for another 200 years.'

Like the other smaller Nato countries they will probably offer specialized units - demining, chem-bio-nuclear decontamination, medical facilities, logistics of various kinds.

Why join an alliance that is getting its behind kicked in Af-Pak? Let others die for it.

How about $20 billion of aid ($50Billion in today's value), that made your life so much better for so many years. It was not Russia who gave you that money, it was the west, and esspecially US. At least have some integrity to recognize this help before you become a Russian pawn in the Balkans.
(Denis, 15 December 2009 05:00)

So according to your logic, the US gives out money without strings but the Russians are evil and only give to enslave you. I love this simplistic view of the world.

Anyway you Albanians did get a huge chunk of that money with free electricity, land taxes etc. so I would see why your greatfull. This is now long gone, but you might ask your US friends for a cent or two, if they have any left.

'Why join an alliance that is getting its behind kicked in Af-Pak? Let others die for it.
(Don Draper, 16 December 2009 01:00) '

Georgia - which hasn't joined yet, of course - is sending a large contingent to Afghanistan (a heavy brigade and two light companies - about 1000 men) specifically so they gain experience in actual fighting. For some reason they think this might come in handy some day.

Meanwhile Albania is a fullfledged member of NATO (with veto right), a signed SAA, applied for membership in EU.
(Mirub Jager, 15 December 2009 17:07)

That does not mean anything. It was just political issue to thank Albania for fighting for Bush in Avganistan.

Even though you are member of NATO signed SAA, applied for membership in EU, it does not mean that you will not become member of EU before Serbia.

Do you wanna bet?