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Tuesday, 08.12.2009.

12:42

“Serbia must apologize to Bosnia-Herzegovina”

A Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) member of the Bosnia-Herzegovina Presidency says Serbia should apologize to Bosnia in order to have "truly good relations".

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Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

It was a WAR CRIME not GENOCIDE! Genocide is a government sponsored policy where a particular ethnic group is targetted for extermination.

This happened in 1915 when the Young Turk government oversaw the expulsion, forced starvation and massacres of millions of Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Christians.

This happened during WWII when German, Romanian and Croatian facists oversaw the internment, massacres and gassing of millions of jews, gypsies, communists and "anti-socials".

What is currently happening in Sudan (in fact, since the first civil war there), is also genocide by the arabic government on the Christian populations in the south (and also in Darfur).

Not even Cambodia can be classed as genocide as the Khmer Rouge did not target any particular group of people for extermination, they were just total idiots who caused the deaths of millions of people through neglect, abuse and unrealistic policies.

So please can someone explain to me how the once off massacre of several thousand Bosniaks can possibly constitute a genocide? Albanians of Kosovo also like to harp on throwing terms like this around when even less Albanians died in the entire war than at the one massacre in Srebrenica? Learn the definition of genocide before throwing it around!

Serbia should apologize for crimes against the Bosniaks and Bosniaks should apologize for crimes against the Serbs.

Chris

pre 14 godina

After Serbia enter EU, that we can hope to stability of all region. Bosnia and Herzegovina is by International Law recognizing as a country with a Sovereignty and territory Integrity, so we do not need to worry too much about that part. What we need to focus on is to address issue to president of Serbia that is time to apologize for mascara and genocide that happened for time of war. Which that apology would not have any meaning, dead victims no one can revive so it is just formality, for Serbia to accept the responsibility and no trying to think about MILSEVIC dream about “GREAT SERBIA” that dream is over long time ago.
Second Bosnia and Herzegovina is known long time and has a long history behind it, and were strived as a strong country for centauries ad well known with it army and power.
So does who are waiting for Bosnia to be vanished, their dreams are only illusion. Bosnia now has a big strong Army.
Those who hate Bosnia and Herzegovina, I would recommended them to look at map and see very well history about Bosnia.
Respect to those who respect others.

Cro

pre 14 godina

Silajdžić is starting to sound like a broken record, politicians such as he will only bring further nationalism to the Balkan region.Shame!

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As many stated, Tadic already made his apology.

That being said, I don't recall Croatia apologizing? I've seen Mostar with my own eyes, totally wrecked, worse than ANY other city I saw in Bosnia, and yes, I've been to Sarajevo of course. Mostar was basically a pile of rubble.

When is Croatia going to acknowledge openly that they fought the Bosniaks for nearly half the war too and did horrible things as well. No one seems to remember that and they certainly haven't apologized and the Croats of Mostar still behave badly. At least in RS there's a new Mosque in every town.

ida

pre 14 godina

Haris Silajdžić is a war criminal who oversaw and knew of concentration camps of Serbs and Croats.

Bosnian Muslims should apologize for initiating the war with attacks on Sarajevo Serbian civilians at a wedding party, then having their paramilitary kill scores of Sarajevo Serb civilians in the first several days of the war.

They should apologize for being involved in Croatia's war and killing and cleansing the ethnic Serb there.

They should also finally do a census - which they have been avoiding for over a dozen years.

GSP

pre 14 godina

As soon as we get an apology for the Bosnian muslims siding with the Nazis, we will apologize.

I believe hades hasn't frozen over yet......

CCCC

Maxim

pre 14 godina

Hmmmmmm..........what about the Serbs in Kosovo, the Armenians in Turkey, the Copts in Egypt, Christians in all of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries, etc? It's just like the ban on minarets. Muslims expect from everyone else what they refuse to do themselves. Sheer and utter hypocrisy.

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Silajdzic should not have signed the Dayton agreement if he hates it so much. Dodik has him checkmated here.
As for Serbs apologizing for supposed 'genocide'? I have not heard any apologies from Silajdzic's muslims for the SS Handzar Divisions in WWII, or for 500 years of brutalisation under his beloved Turks, or for Naser Oric's massacres in Bratunac....
I say this to Silajdzic with the utmost sincerity, as a Serb with whom the overwhelming majority of Serbs that I know agree with: Never. We will never, ever apologize, and we will never ever live with you again. Never again. We are done with you, you are on your own now, so please go make friends with your beloved Croats. Republika Srpska is already independent.

michael

pre 14 godina

Bosnia Federation is a joke, and with comedians like this guy, no wonder why your still stuck, jobless, hopeless, and soon, helpless. Instead of doing his utmost to get his old mule pulling again, he once again looks to "outside" influences such as Serbia to blame for HIS shortcoming and that of his nation.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Tadic already did several times, our enemies never did. Croatia denies or tries to decrease the numbers of Ustasha crimes. Also, Bosniaks deny their enthusiasm for the Ustasha, that Alija was a Nazi and Ustasha collaborator or their enthusiasm for Iranian style Islamism circa 1990\91/92, their crimes during the war and unsavioury aspects of Ottoman and Austrian rule. Tadic apologized, now it's the turn of Sijaldzic -- plus this seems him trying to get votes after he failed in his election promises to abolish RS.

MikeToronto

pre 14 godina

No need for apologies. When I was a kid in school there was this other kid that kept making problems with everyone. He kept bothering people and starting fights that he couldn't back up because he knew a few older kids. One day he took things too far so we all kicked him but his older friends didn't help out like he thought they would. We felt bad but knew that if we apologized he'd just go back to being the same way he always was.

vladimir gagic

pre 14 godina

No, Mr. Salidjic, you are dead wrong. The citizens of Bosnia did NOT choose independence in 1992, only the Muslim and Croatian citizens did. That was an illegal act in direct violation of the Yugolsav constitution in effect at the time. That constitution was crystal clear in that Bosnia could declare independence only with the consent all three ethnic groups, not just two. The only reason the West recognized Bosnia's independence was because Germany bullied the Americans, and then Western neoliberal's saw the economic advantage of an emasculated socialist Yugoslavia. And funny how Salidjic doesn't bother to mention the Lisbon Treaty and how Izetbegovic and Zimmerman could have avoided the whole war if they had only been honest and peace loving.

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

Should Serbs appologize for protecting themselves from islam? In wars horrible things happen. Perhaps Silajdic should accept the fault of his former leader Izetbegovic and his threats to make Bosnia a pure islamic state. Silajdic and his islamist followers need to appologize, not the Serbs.
Silajdic should also accept the fact that if Kosovo becomes independent so will Republika Srpska. No one can deny Serbs that right. It is after all their land and their right to choose their own future.

Terry

pre 14 godina

Did the muslims say "sorry"? It takes two to tango. As far as I know there were atrocities committed on both sides of the 'fence'. It's time to bury the hatchet. Let's apologise to each other and move on.

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

Should Serbs appologize for protecting themselves from islam? In wars horrible things happen. Perhaps Silajdic should accept the fault of his former leader Izetbegovic and his threats to make Bosnia a pure islamic state. Silajdic and his islamist followers need to appologize, not the Serbs.
Silajdic should also accept the fact that if Kosovo becomes independent so will Republika Srpska. No one can deny Serbs that right. It is after all their land and their right to choose their own future.

Terry

pre 14 godina

Did the muslims say "sorry"? It takes two to tango. As far as I know there were atrocities committed on both sides of the 'fence'. It's time to bury the hatchet. Let's apologise to each other and move on.

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Silajdzic should not have signed the Dayton agreement if he hates it so much. Dodik has him checkmated here.
As for Serbs apologizing for supposed 'genocide'? I have not heard any apologies from Silajdzic's muslims for the SS Handzar Divisions in WWII, or for 500 years of brutalisation under his beloved Turks, or for Naser Oric's massacres in Bratunac....
I say this to Silajdzic with the utmost sincerity, as a Serb with whom the overwhelming majority of Serbs that I know agree with: Never. We will never, ever apologize, and we will never ever live with you again. Never again. We are done with you, you are on your own now, so please go make friends with your beloved Croats. Republika Srpska is already independent.

vladimir gagic

pre 14 godina

No, Mr. Salidjic, you are dead wrong. The citizens of Bosnia did NOT choose independence in 1992, only the Muslim and Croatian citizens did. That was an illegal act in direct violation of the Yugolsav constitution in effect at the time. That constitution was crystal clear in that Bosnia could declare independence only with the consent all three ethnic groups, not just two. The only reason the West recognized Bosnia's independence was because Germany bullied the Americans, and then Western neoliberal's saw the economic advantage of an emasculated socialist Yugoslavia. And funny how Salidjic doesn't bother to mention the Lisbon Treaty and how Izetbegovic and Zimmerman could have avoided the whole war if they had only been honest and peace loving.

michael

pre 14 godina

Bosnia Federation is a joke, and with comedians like this guy, no wonder why your still stuck, jobless, hopeless, and soon, helpless. Instead of doing his utmost to get his old mule pulling again, he once again looks to "outside" influences such as Serbia to blame for HIS shortcoming and that of his nation.

MikeToronto

pre 14 godina

No need for apologies. When I was a kid in school there was this other kid that kept making problems with everyone. He kept bothering people and starting fights that he couldn't back up because he knew a few older kids. One day he took things too far so we all kicked him but his older friends didn't help out like he thought they would. We felt bad but knew that if we apologized he'd just go back to being the same way he always was.

Maxim

pre 14 godina

Hmmmmmm..........what about the Serbs in Kosovo, the Armenians in Turkey, the Copts in Egypt, Christians in all of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries, etc? It's just like the ban on minarets. Muslims expect from everyone else what they refuse to do themselves. Sheer and utter hypocrisy.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Tadic already did several times, our enemies never did. Croatia denies or tries to decrease the numbers of Ustasha crimes. Also, Bosniaks deny their enthusiasm for the Ustasha, that Alija was a Nazi and Ustasha collaborator or their enthusiasm for Iranian style Islamism circa 1990\91/92, their crimes during the war and unsavioury aspects of Ottoman and Austrian rule. Tadic apologized, now it's the turn of Sijaldzic -- plus this seems him trying to get votes after he failed in his election promises to abolish RS.

ida

pre 14 godina

Haris Silajdžić is a war criminal who oversaw and knew of concentration camps of Serbs and Croats.

Bosnian Muslims should apologize for initiating the war with attacks on Sarajevo Serbian civilians at a wedding party, then having their paramilitary kill scores of Sarajevo Serb civilians in the first several days of the war.

They should apologize for being involved in Croatia's war and killing and cleansing the ethnic Serb there.

They should also finally do a census - which they have been avoiding for over a dozen years.

GSP

pre 14 godina

As soon as we get an apology for the Bosnian muslims siding with the Nazis, we will apologize.

I believe hades hasn't frozen over yet......

CCCC

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As many stated, Tadic already made his apology.

That being said, I don't recall Croatia apologizing? I've seen Mostar with my own eyes, totally wrecked, worse than ANY other city I saw in Bosnia, and yes, I've been to Sarajevo of course. Mostar was basically a pile of rubble.

When is Croatia going to acknowledge openly that they fought the Bosniaks for nearly half the war too and did horrible things as well. No one seems to remember that and they certainly haven't apologized and the Croats of Mostar still behave badly. At least in RS there's a new Mosque in every town.

Cro

pre 14 godina

Silajdžić is starting to sound like a broken record, politicians such as he will only bring further nationalism to the Balkan region.Shame!

Chris

pre 14 godina

After Serbia enter EU, that we can hope to stability of all region. Bosnia and Herzegovina is by International Law recognizing as a country with a Sovereignty and territory Integrity, so we do not need to worry too much about that part. What we need to focus on is to address issue to president of Serbia that is time to apologize for mascara and genocide that happened for time of war. Which that apology would not have any meaning, dead victims no one can revive so it is just formality, for Serbia to accept the responsibility and no trying to think about MILSEVIC dream about “GREAT SERBIA” that dream is over long time ago.
Second Bosnia and Herzegovina is known long time and has a long history behind it, and were strived as a strong country for centauries ad well known with it army and power.
So does who are waiting for Bosnia to be vanished, their dreams are only illusion. Bosnia now has a big strong Army.
Those who hate Bosnia and Herzegovina, I would recommended them to look at map and see very well history about Bosnia.
Respect to those who respect others.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

It was a WAR CRIME not GENOCIDE! Genocide is a government sponsored policy where a particular ethnic group is targetted for extermination.

This happened in 1915 when the Young Turk government oversaw the expulsion, forced starvation and massacres of millions of Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Christians.

This happened during WWII when German, Romanian and Croatian facists oversaw the internment, massacres and gassing of millions of jews, gypsies, communists and "anti-socials".

What is currently happening in Sudan (in fact, since the first civil war there), is also genocide by the arabic government on the Christian populations in the south (and also in Darfur).

Not even Cambodia can be classed as genocide as the Khmer Rouge did not target any particular group of people for extermination, they were just total idiots who caused the deaths of millions of people through neglect, abuse and unrealistic policies.

So please can someone explain to me how the once off massacre of several thousand Bosniaks can possibly constitute a genocide? Albanians of Kosovo also like to harp on throwing terms like this around when even less Albanians died in the entire war than at the one massacre in Srebrenica? Learn the definition of genocide before throwing it around!

Serbia should apologize for crimes against the Bosniaks and Bosniaks should apologize for crimes against the Serbs.

Hank the Tank

pre 14 godina

Should Serbs appologize for protecting themselves from islam? In wars horrible things happen. Perhaps Silajdic should accept the fault of his former leader Izetbegovic and his threats to make Bosnia a pure islamic state. Silajdic and his islamist followers need to appologize, not the Serbs.
Silajdic should also accept the fact that if Kosovo becomes independent so will Republika Srpska. No one can deny Serbs that right. It is after all their land and their right to choose their own future.

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Silajdzic should not have signed the Dayton agreement if he hates it so much. Dodik has him checkmated here.
As for Serbs apologizing for supposed 'genocide'? I have not heard any apologies from Silajdzic's muslims for the SS Handzar Divisions in WWII, or for 500 years of brutalisation under his beloved Turks, or for Naser Oric's massacres in Bratunac....
I say this to Silajdzic with the utmost sincerity, as a Serb with whom the overwhelming majority of Serbs that I know agree with: Never. We will never, ever apologize, and we will never ever live with you again. Never again. We are done with you, you are on your own now, so please go make friends with your beloved Croats. Republika Srpska is already independent.

Terry

pre 14 godina

Did the muslims say "sorry"? It takes two to tango. As far as I know there were atrocities committed on both sides of the 'fence'. It's time to bury the hatchet. Let's apologise to each other and move on.

michael

pre 14 godina

Bosnia Federation is a joke, and with comedians like this guy, no wonder why your still stuck, jobless, hopeless, and soon, helpless. Instead of doing his utmost to get his old mule pulling again, he once again looks to "outside" influences such as Serbia to blame for HIS shortcoming and that of his nation.

vladimir gagic

pre 14 godina

No, Mr. Salidjic, you are dead wrong. The citizens of Bosnia did NOT choose independence in 1992, only the Muslim and Croatian citizens did. That was an illegal act in direct violation of the Yugolsav constitution in effect at the time. That constitution was crystal clear in that Bosnia could declare independence only with the consent all three ethnic groups, not just two. The only reason the West recognized Bosnia's independence was because Germany bullied the Americans, and then Western neoliberal's saw the economic advantage of an emasculated socialist Yugoslavia. And funny how Salidjic doesn't bother to mention the Lisbon Treaty and how Izetbegovic and Zimmerman could have avoided the whole war if they had only been honest and peace loving.

MikeToronto

pre 14 godina

No need for apologies. When I was a kid in school there was this other kid that kept making problems with everyone. He kept bothering people and starting fights that he couldn't back up because he knew a few older kids. One day he took things too far so we all kicked him but his older friends didn't help out like he thought they would. We felt bad but knew that if we apologized he'd just go back to being the same way he always was.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Tadic already did several times, our enemies never did. Croatia denies or tries to decrease the numbers of Ustasha crimes. Also, Bosniaks deny their enthusiasm for the Ustasha, that Alija was a Nazi and Ustasha collaborator or their enthusiasm for Iranian style Islamism circa 1990\91/92, their crimes during the war and unsavioury aspects of Ottoman and Austrian rule. Tadic apologized, now it's the turn of Sijaldzic -- plus this seems him trying to get votes after he failed in his election promises to abolish RS.

GSP

pre 14 godina

As soon as we get an apology for the Bosnian muslims siding with the Nazis, we will apologize.

I believe hades hasn't frozen over yet......

CCCC

Maxim

pre 14 godina

Hmmmmmm..........what about the Serbs in Kosovo, the Armenians in Turkey, the Copts in Egypt, Christians in all of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries, etc? It's just like the ban on minarets. Muslims expect from everyone else what they refuse to do themselves. Sheer and utter hypocrisy.

Chris

pre 14 godina

After Serbia enter EU, that we can hope to stability of all region. Bosnia and Herzegovina is by International Law recognizing as a country with a Sovereignty and territory Integrity, so we do not need to worry too much about that part. What we need to focus on is to address issue to president of Serbia that is time to apologize for mascara and genocide that happened for time of war. Which that apology would not have any meaning, dead victims no one can revive so it is just formality, for Serbia to accept the responsibility and no trying to think about MILSEVIC dream about “GREAT SERBIA” that dream is over long time ago.
Second Bosnia and Herzegovina is known long time and has a long history behind it, and were strived as a strong country for centauries ad well known with it army and power.
So does who are waiting for Bosnia to be vanished, their dreams are only illusion. Bosnia now has a big strong Army.
Those who hate Bosnia and Herzegovina, I would recommended them to look at map and see very well history about Bosnia.
Respect to those who respect others.

ida

pre 14 godina

Haris Silajdžić is a war criminal who oversaw and knew of concentration camps of Serbs and Croats.

Bosnian Muslims should apologize for initiating the war with attacks on Sarajevo Serbian civilians at a wedding party, then having their paramilitary kill scores of Sarajevo Serb civilians in the first several days of the war.

They should apologize for being involved in Croatia's war and killing and cleansing the ethnic Serb there.

They should also finally do a census - which they have been avoiding for over a dozen years.

Cro

pre 14 godina

Silajdžić is starting to sound like a broken record, politicians such as he will only bring further nationalism to the Balkan region.Shame!

Matthew

pre 14 godina

As many stated, Tadic already made his apology.

That being said, I don't recall Croatia apologizing? I've seen Mostar with my own eyes, totally wrecked, worse than ANY other city I saw in Bosnia, and yes, I've been to Sarajevo of course. Mostar was basically a pile of rubble.

When is Croatia going to acknowledge openly that they fought the Bosniaks for nearly half the war too and did horrible things as well. No one seems to remember that and they certainly haven't apologized and the Croats of Mostar still behave badly. At least in RS there's a new Mosque in every town.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

It was a WAR CRIME not GENOCIDE! Genocide is a government sponsored policy where a particular ethnic group is targetted for extermination.

This happened in 1915 when the Young Turk government oversaw the expulsion, forced starvation and massacres of millions of Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Christians.

This happened during WWII when German, Romanian and Croatian facists oversaw the internment, massacres and gassing of millions of jews, gypsies, communists and "anti-socials".

What is currently happening in Sudan (in fact, since the first civil war there), is also genocide by the arabic government on the Christian populations in the south (and also in Darfur).

Not even Cambodia can be classed as genocide as the Khmer Rouge did not target any particular group of people for extermination, they were just total idiots who caused the deaths of millions of people through neglect, abuse and unrealistic policies.

So please can someone explain to me how the once off massacre of several thousand Bosniaks can possibly constitute a genocide? Albanians of Kosovo also like to harp on throwing terms like this around when even less Albanians died in the entire war than at the one massacre in Srebrenica? Learn the definition of genocide before throwing it around!

Serbia should apologize for crimes against the Bosniaks and Bosniaks should apologize for crimes against the Serbs.