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Slovakia supports Serbia on Kosovo, EU

Slovak President Ivan Gašparovič started his official two-day visit to Serbia on Thursday.

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ben

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)


Sure and Albanias and other Balkan nations were having late beach party.

Sure it makes sense: in Serbia of course.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mirub Jager said:

"If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation"

Please stop using Milosevic as your excuse for this and everything else that is wrong in your life.

Albanians had plans to get rid of Serbs and secede way before Milosevic was even born. How many times have I read your comments saying openly that you have waited for a hundred years for this?

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)

Will you be enlisting too or would you like your brothers to risk their lives in order to satisfy your lust for war?

Mister

pre 14 godina

"This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.
(pss, 3 December 2009 22:56)"

In line with your comment I think it is fair to say one is a "space cadet" my friend.

pss

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)
This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

Regarding the Kosovo debate before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague, Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.

Simple, clear, precise, to the point!
Good to see that not all are having a twisted mind when it comes to intl laws interpretation!

Mister

pre 14 godina

"Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.
(Berkeley, 3 December 2009 18:26)"

ICJ aside, do you think the Albanian position will compound or allay concerns about precedent? Maybe that is an own goal. There is very little being made of this "special case". I'm really surprised by that.

In some ways, if Kosovo get's a verdict in it's favour then it will reinforce opposition from certain countries. A bit of a damned if you damned if you don't.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)

Really? Do you know how Europe will look like in 500 years?
I read somewhere last year that hundreds of languages spoken today by only 15 millions people or less will desappear in the next 100-150 years. Only few world languages like English, Chinese, Arabic, etc will survive in the modern world.
Europe we know today will be completely different.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation. Albanians should commemorate (celebrate is to strong of the word) the day Djindjic and Stambolic were liquidated, for they would have Kosovo as integral part of Serbia, be that as a Federation or confederation, or union of entities with Montenegro, Bosnia, Serbia as part of EU before some by-default-state-members of today.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws."
Momcilo

So if a country's constitution is not garantying minority rights or those garanties are only on paper than to hell with those minorities...they can be discriminated, their rights violated because you consider all that as "internal affair". Try to sell this idea to Brussels, where Serbia tries to become desperately an EU member.

"Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals."

Whatever it is those 2 million K-Albanians do not want to "reintegrate".

EA

pre 14 godina

Slovakia? Well I don't think this small country will be in a position to undo Kosova's independence. Albanians are not surprised with Slovakia's stance. It tells me how the Hungarians living in Slovakia ended up within Slovakian borders.

Berkeley

pre 14 godina

"He said that Bratislava will not recognize Kosovo even if the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in the case currently before it turns out to be negative for Belgrade."

Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.

Momcilo

pre 14 godina

Kosovo can't survive, with all the aid so far, it still hasn't. Of course Slovakia has a Hungarian minority, many countries have large minorities, but how they treat them should be within their rules. Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws. Kosovo will remain part of Serbia, and big part of that is due that a horse can't stand on one leg. Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals. You have to be the most senseless person in the world to see that. Those crooks will be out (Thaci, Hardanaj) and it will get only worse in the next 5 years. You think the EU Doesn't see this??

oh yeah, and you forgot something, Serbia and Serbian people are the most hard headed on the earth, you really think that if these conservative democrats are putting up this big of a fight, that it will change in the near future? Just wait until another party claims presidency.

Serbia getting stronger..if you ever get time, look up the GDP, crime rate, etc in Kosovo. And then look at Albania. You think without the US that the EU would be pumping all this support? Be logical. Serbia will prevail, i guarantee you.

Pepsi

pre 14 godina

“It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that. 

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia. 

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)”

Serbia is committed to peace. Serbia regrets some things that happened in the past (as do many countries). Serbia is not threatening anyone. It is rather twister that you would love to see force used against you, strange indeed.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.
--
There you go PRN, you're wrong again and very consistently.

nik

pre 14 godina

The tragedy of Slovakia comes from the fact that in 1919 Benes, future president of Czechoslovakia (notorious with his decrees evicting three million German men, women and children) was a head of the Czechoslovak delegarion during the Peace conference in Paris. He lied about the ethnicity of the region that is now southern Slovakia. So the border between Czechoslovakia and Hungary cut across a compact Hungarian majority area. The Hungarian nation was thus mutilated, while all the Slovak got was trouble. Now after many Slovaks have moved into those regions and the border has virtually disapeared, the tension is rising. The Slovaks no longer can afford to lose their gains, while the Hungarians feel nobody could ever again prevent them from gravitating (for education, medical assistence, shopping, fun) towards Budapest that is actually closer to some of them than Bratislava. Happily, unlike in the case of Kosovo it is unlikely that there will ever again be violence.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country"
highduke

A "model" country should treat its large Hungarian minority (10% of the population) in a "model way".
The recently inacted Language Law however is very discrimitory and in contradiction with all Europeans models. There are on-going discussions in the EU about it.

UNE

pre 14 godina

It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that.

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.

highduke

pre 14 godina

Despite the fact that Gasparovic's ancestors are Croats, Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country unlike Poland & Czech Rep, who allow themselves to be used against Slavic interests. Even 2 Slovaks of Croat descent I've met abroad are decent people who love Orthodox Slavdom! Slovaks are closer to Serbs & Russians in terms of mentality.

aRTa

pre 14 godina

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?
--
No one is trying to secede. Plus the civil rights of everyone are equally respected or not respected. Serbia tried one to many times

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

PRN,
Kosovo is owned by the 8 million Serbs living in Serbia and not the minority of 1.5 million Albanians living in Kosovo; a province of Serbia.

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?

Right now, Serbia, Greece and Montenegro are waiting to grab some of Albania's territory. Remember, that history will repeat itself.

Why do you support dismemberment of Kosovo from Serbia, when clearly Serbs are not prepared to let the Albanians have it?

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Hehe...real genuine pan-Slavic friendly handshake.

Haven't seen such a positive and spontaneous political photo in the long time.
Nice.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD."
PRN

Is that why Kosovo and Albania are left out of white Schengen list?
How free are you really when others run your institutions?

Jason

pre 14 godina

PRN is a person with a wonderful imagination. How many times here do we see comments from PRN, Arta, or Kosovo-USA (the Aztec warrior) which are grounded in fantasy and without any factual basis? It seems to increasingly frequent...

raso

pre 14 godina

slovakia is preparing ALL serbians with albanian background, especially our internet-talibs, that kosovo never will be a state...

that´s why they visit the capital of kosovo, belgrade ...

but what happend to the arabian and muslim recognition-wave ???

i mean, we are leaving 2009 and still nothing.

Princip, Gracanica, Kosovo & Metohija, Serbia

pre 14 godina

PRN - seems wishful thinking if you think this to be the case!

Slovakia has consistantly supported Serbia and fully understands the implications of such illegality to all soverign UN recognised states. Slovakia has and always maintains its support for Serbia is principled and based on international law. Its implied that if there is not the strictly legal outcome in the ICJ i.e. a western backed fudge they will disregard the ICJ and still maintain their principled stance supporting Serbia.

Your clutching at straws PRN !

Zoran

pre 14 godina

PRN, I must admit that you have a highly developed imagination.

Tell me something, why would the Slovak president come to visit Serbia and discuss business deals if he had the intention to recognise Kosovo? Normally they go and hide behind a rock before making such announcements and not visit the place they intend to disrespect.

During his departure, a press conference will be called and all will support Serbia's position on Kosovo. It's standard procedure my fellow citizen.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Slovakia is preparing Serbia that Kosovo recognition by Slovakia is imminent now.

BTW, challenging the international law and the will of the people to live in peace, free, and in democratic environment CANNOT last forever.

About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD.

Jason

pre 14 godina

PRN is a person with a wonderful imagination. How many times here do we see comments from PRN, Arta, or Kosovo-USA (the Aztec warrior) which are grounded in fantasy and without any factual basis? It seems to increasingly frequent...

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD."
PRN

Is that why Kosovo and Albania are left out of white Schengen list?
How free are you really when others run your institutions?

Princip, Gracanica, Kosovo & Metohija, Serbia

pre 14 godina

PRN - seems wishful thinking if you think this to be the case!

Slovakia has consistantly supported Serbia and fully understands the implications of such illegality to all soverign UN recognised states. Slovakia has and always maintains its support for Serbia is principled and based on international law. Its implied that if there is not the strictly legal outcome in the ICJ i.e. a western backed fudge they will disregard the ICJ and still maintain their principled stance supporting Serbia.

Your clutching at straws PRN !

highduke

pre 14 godina

Despite the fact that Gasparovic's ancestors are Croats, Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country unlike Poland & Czech Rep, who allow themselves to be used against Slavic interests. Even 2 Slovaks of Croat descent I've met abroad are decent people who love Orthodox Slavdom! Slovaks are closer to Serbs & Russians in terms of mentality.

raso

pre 14 godina

slovakia is preparing ALL serbians with albanian background, especially our internet-talibs, that kosovo never will be a state...

that´s why they visit the capital of kosovo, belgrade ...

but what happend to the arabian and muslim recognition-wave ???

i mean, we are leaving 2009 and still nothing.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

PRN, I must admit that you have a highly developed imagination.

Tell me something, why would the Slovak president come to visit Serbia and discuss business deals if he had the intention to recognise Kosovo? Normally they go and hide behind a rock before making such announcements and not visit the place they intend to disrespect.

During his departure, a press conference will be called and all will support Serbia's position on Kosovo. It's standard procedure my fellow citizen.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

PRN,
Kosovo is owned by the 8 million Serbs living in Serbia and not the minority of 1.5 million Albanians living in Kosovo; a province of Serbia.

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?

Right now, Serbia, Greece and Montenegro are waiting to grab some of Albania's territory. Remember, that history will repeat itself.

Why do you support dismemberment of Kosovo from Serbia, when clearly Serbs are not prepared to let the Albanians have it?

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Hehe...real genuine pan-Slavic friendly handshake.

Haven't seen such a positive and spontaneous political photo in the long time.
Nice.

Momcilo

pre 14 godina

Kosovo can't survive, with all the aid so far, it still hasn't. Of course Slovakia has a Hungarian minority, many countries have large minorities, but how they treat them should be within their rules. Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws. Kosovo will remain part of Serbia, and big part of that is due that a horse can't stand on one leg. Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals. You have to be the most senseless person in the world to see that. Those crooks will be out (Thaci, Hardanaj) and it will get only worse in the next 5 years. You think the EU Doesn't see this??

oh yeah, and you forgot something, Serbia and Serbian people are the most hard headed on the earth, you really think that if these conservative democrats are putting up this big of a fight, that it will change in the near future? Just wait until another party claims presidency.

Serbia getting stronger..if you ever get time, look up the GDP, crime rate, etc in Kosovo. And then look at Albania. You think without the US that the EU would be pumping all this support? Be logical. Serbia will prevail, i guarantee you.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.
--
There you go PRN, you're wrong again and very consistently.

Pepsi

pre 14 godina

“It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that. 

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia. 

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)”

Serbia is committed to peace. Serbia regrets some things that happened in the past (as do many countries). Serbia is not threatening anyone. It is rather twister that you would love to see force used against you, strange indeed.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Slovakia is preparing Serbia that Kosovo recognition by Slovakia is imminent now.

BTW, challenging the international law and the will of the people to live in peace, free, and in democratic environment CANNOT last forever.

About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD.

UNE

pre 14 godina

It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that.

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.

EA

pre 14 godina

Slovakia? Well I don't think this small country will be in a position to undo Kosova's independence. Albanians are not surprised with Slovakia's stance. It tells me how the Hungarians living in Slovakia ended up within Slovakian borders.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)

Will you be enlisting too or would you like your brothers to risk their lives in order to satisfy your lust for war?

pss

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)
This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

Regarding the Kosovo debate before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague, Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.

Simple, clear, precise, to the point!
Good to see that not all are having a twisted mind when it comes to intl laws interpretation!

aRTa

pre 14 godina

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?
--
No one is trying to secede. Plus the civil rights of everyone are equally respected or not respected. Serbia tried one to many times

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws."
Momcilo

So if a country's constitution is not garantying minority rights or those garanties are only on paper than to hell with those minorities...they can be discriminated, their rights violated because you consider all that as "internal affair". Try to sell this idea to Brussels, where Serbia tries to become desperately an EU member.

"Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals."

Whatever it is those 2 million K-Albanians do not want to "reintegrate".

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation. Albanians should commemorate (celebrate is to strong of the word) the day Djindjic and Stambolic were liquidated, for they would have Kosovo as integral part of Serbia, be that as a Federation or confederation, or union of entities with Montenegro, Bosnia, Serbia as part of EU before some by-default-state-members of today.

Mister

pre 14 godina

"Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.
(Berkeley, 3 December 2009 18:26)"

ICJ aside, do you think the Albanian position will compound or allay concerns about precedent? Maybe that is an own goal. There is very little being made of this "special case". I'm really surprised by that.

In some ways, if Kosovo get's a verdict in it's favour then it will reinforce opposition from certain countries. A bit of a damned if you damned if you don't.

Berkeley

pre 14 godina

"He said that Bratislava will not recognize Kosovo even if the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in the case currently before it turns out to be negative for Belgrade."

Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mirub Jager said:

"If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation"

Please stop using Milosevic as your excuse for this and everything else that is wrong in your life.

Albanians had plans to get rid of Serbs and secede way before Milosevic was even born. How many times have I read your comments saying openly that you have waited for a hundred years for this?

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country"
highduke

A "model" country should treat its large Hungarian minority (10% of the population) in a "model way".
The recently inacted Language Law however is very discrimitory and in contradiction with all Europeans models. There are on-going discussions in the EU about it.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)

Really? Do you know how Europe will look like in 500 years?
I read somewhere last year that hundreds of languages spoken today by only 15 millions people or less will desappear in the next 100-150 years. Only few world languages like English, Chinese, Arabic, etc will survive in the modern world.
Europe we know today will be completely different.

nik

pre 14 godina

The tragedy of Slovakia comes from the fact that in 1919 Benes, future president of Czechoslovakia (notorious with his decrees evicting three million German men, women and children) was a head of the Czechoslovak delegarion during the Peace conference in Paris. He lied about the ethnicity of the region that is now southern Slovakia. So the border between Czechoslovakia and Hungary cut across a compact Hungarian majority area. The Hungarian nation was thus mutilated, while all the Slovak got was trouble. Now after many Slovaks have moved into those regions and the border has virtually disapeared, the tension is rising. The Slovaks no longer can afford to lose their gains, while the Hungarians feel nobody could ever again prevent them from gravitating (for education, medical assistence, shopping, fun) towards Budapest that is actually closer to some of them than Bratislava. Happily, unlike in the case of Kosovo it is unlikely that there will ever again be violence.

Mister

pre 14 godina

"This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.
(pss, 3 December 2009 22:56)"

In line with your comment I think it is fair to say one is a "space cadet" my friend.

ben

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)


Sure and Albanias and other Balkan nations were having late beach party.

Sure it makes sense: in Serbia of course.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Slovakia is preparing Serbia that Kosovo recognition by Slovakia is imminent now.

BTW, challenging the international law and the will of the people to live in peace, free, and in democratic environment CANNOT last forever.

About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD.

UNE

pre 14 godina

It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that.

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country"
highduke

A "model" country should treat its large Hungarian minority (10% of the population) in a "model way".
The recently inacted Language Law however is very discrimitory and in contradiction with all Europeans models. There are on-going discussions in the EU about it.

aRTa

pre 14 godina

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?
--
No one is trying to secede. Plus the civil rights of everyone are equally respected or not respected. Serbia tried one to many times

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws."
Momcilo

So if a country's constitution is not garantying minority rights or those garanties are only on paper than to hell with those minorities...they can be discriminated, their rights violated because you consider all that as "internal affair". Try to sell this idea to Brussels, where Serbia tries to become desperately an EU member.

"Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals."

Whatever it is those 2 million K-Albanians do not want to "reintegrate".

EA

pre 14 godina

Slovakia? Well I don't think this small country will be in a position to undo Kosova's independence. Albanians are not surprised with Slovakia's stance. It tells me how the Hungarians living in Slovakia ended up within Slovakian borders.

Berkeley

pre 14 godina

"He said that Bratislava will not recognize Kosovo even if the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in the case currently before it turns out to be negative for Belgrade."

Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)

Really? Do you know how Europe will look like in 500 years?
I read somewhere last year that hundreds of languages spoken today by only 15 millions people or less will desappear in the next 100-150 years. Only few world languages like English, Chinese, Arabic, etc will survive in the modern world.
Europe we know today will be completely different.

Mirub Jager

pre 14 godina

If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation. Albanians should commemorate (celebrate is to strong of the word) the day Djindjic and Stambolic were liquidated, for they would have Kosovo as integral part of Serbia, be that as a Federation or confederation, or union of entities with Montenegro, Bosnia, Serbia as part of EU before some by-default-state-members of today.

Momcilo

pre 14 godina

Kosovo can't survive, with all the aid so far, it still hasn't. Of course Slovakia has a Hungarian minority, many countries have large minorities, but how they treat them should be within their rules. Minority rights can't begin to impede on a country's constitutional laws. Kosovo will remain part of Serbia, and big part of that is due that a horse can't stand on one leg. Kosovo is impoverished, and full of criminals. You have to be the most senseless person in the world to see that. Those crooks will be out (Thaci, Hardanaj) and it will get only worse in the next 5 years. You think the EU Doesn't see this??

oh yeah, and you forgot something, Serbia and Serbian people are the most hard headed on the earth, you really think that if these conservative democrats are putting up this big of a fight, that it will change in the near future? Just wait until another party claims presidency.

Serbia getting stronger..if you ever get time, look up the GDP, crime rate, etc in Kosovo. And then look at Albania. You think without the US that the EU would be pumping all this support? Be logical. Serbia will prevail, i guarantee you.

raso

pre 14 godina

slovakia is preparing ALL serbians with albanian background, especially our internet-talibs, that kosovo never will be a state...

that´s why they visit the capital of kosovo, belgrade ...

but what happend to the arabian and muslim recognition-wave ???

i mean, we are leaving 2009 and still nothing.

Jason

pre 14 godina

PRN is a person with a wonderful imagination. How many times here do we see comments from PRN, Arta, or Kosovo-USA (the Aztec warrior) which are grounded in fantasy and without any factual basis? It seems to increasingly frequent...

Zoran

pre 14 godina

PRN, I must admit that you have a highly developed imagination.

Tell me something, why would the Slovak president come to visit Serbia and discuss business deals if he had the intention to recognise Kosovo? Normally they go and hide behind a rock before making such announcements and not visit the place they intend to disrespect.

During his departure, a press conference will be called and all will support Serbia's position on Kosovo. It's standard procedure my fellow citizen.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"About time now to turn to the FREE WORLD."
PRN

Is that why Kosovo and Albania are left out of white Schengen list?
How free are you really when others run your institutions?

Another Canadian Serb

pre 14 godina

PRN,
Kosovo is owned by the 8 million Serbs living in Serbia and not the minority of 1.5 million Albanians living in Kosovo; a province of Serbia.

Why don't you propose dismemberment of Albania?

Right now, Serbia, Greece and Montenegro are waiting to grab some of Albania's territory. Remember, that history will repeat itself.

Why do you support dismemberment of Kosovo from Serbia, when clearly Serbs are not prepared to let the Albanians have it?

Pepsi

pre 14 godina

“It is so funny. Montenegro said the same thing. Now they will open embassy. Macedonia same now they have embassy in Kosovo. Sllovakia is a nothing, does not matter equally serbia and Cyprus. They will bend to the will of the people of kosovo. Go and get Kosovo and try to make it Serbian again. I would love to see that. 

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia. 

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)”

Serbia is committed to peace. Serbia regrets some things that happened in the past (as do many countries). Serbia is not threatening anyone. It is rather twister that you would love to see force used against you, strange indeed.

pss

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)
This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.

highduke

pre 14 godina

Despite the fact that Gasparovic's ancestors are Croats, Slovakia & her people a MODEL for an honest Slavic Catholic country unlike Poland & Czech Rep, who allow themselves to be used against Slavic interests. Even 2 Slovaks of Croat descent I've met abroad are decent people who love Orthodox Slavdom! Slovaks are closer to Serbs & Russians in terms of mentality.

Princip, Gracanica, Kosovo & Metohija, Serbia

pre 14 godina

PRN - seems wishful thinking if you think this to be the case!

Slovakia has consistantly supported Serbia and fully understands the implications of such illegality to all soverign UN recognised states. Slovakia has and always maintains its support for Serbia is principled and based on international law. Its implied that if there is not the strictly legal outcome in the ICJ i.e. a western backed fudge they will disregard the ICJ and still maintain their principled stance supporting Serbia.

Your clutching at straws PRN !

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Hehe...real genuine pan-Slavic friendly handshake.

Haven't seen such a positive and spontaneous political photo in the long time.
Nice.

nik

pre 14 godina

The tragedy of Slovakia comes from the fact that in 1919 Benes, future president of Czechoslovakia (notorious with his decrees evicting three million German men, women and children) was a head of the Czechoslovak delegarion during the Peace conference in Paris. He lied about the ethnicity of the region that is now southern Slovakia. So the border between Czechoslovakia and Hungary cut across a compact Hungarian majority area. The Hungarian nation was thus mutilated, while all the Slovak got was trouble. Now after many Slovaks have moved into those regions and the border has virtually disapeared, the tension is rising. The Slovaks no longer can afford to lose their gains, while the Hungarians feel nobody could ever again prevent them from gravitating (for education, medical assistence, shopping, fun) towards Budapest that is actually closer to some of them than Bratislava. Happily, unlike in the case of Kosovo it is unlikely that there will ever again be violence.

Mister

pre 14 godina

"Don't forget to mention that when standing in Den Haag.

On the other hand, it tells what relevance this ICJ case really has. The ICJ president Owada already stated that ICJ judgement will be neutral, so it goes back to billateral recognitions just as the Albanian as well as the majority of supporters at the ICJ case stated. A neutral statement will be all what the Albanians need, however, after reading the transripts a clear victory there is very likely.
(Berkeley, 3 December 2009 18:26)"

ICJ aside, do you think the Albanian position will compound or allay concerns about precedent? Maybe that is an own goal. There is very little being made of this "special case". I'm really surprised by that.

In some ways, if Kosovo get's a verdict in it's favour then it will reinforce opposition from certain countries. A bit of a damned if you damned if you don't.

ben

pre 14 godina

Serbs waited 500 years for the turks to leave we can wait 500 more. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the independence of Kosovo it has rightfull owenership of this Serbian holy land.
Time is on Serbias side!
(MikeC, 3 December 2009 16:31)


Sure and Albanias and other Balkan nations were having late beach party.

Sure it makes sense: in Serbia of course.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.
--
There you go PRN, you're wrong again and very consistently.

The Swiss

pre 14 godina

Regarding the Kosovo debate before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague, Gašparovič said that his country did not recognize the unilateral proclamation of independence given that it happened without Belgrade's consent and in violation of the principles of international law.

Simple, clear, precise, to the point!
Good to see that not all are having a twisted mind when it comes to intl laws interpretation!

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Mirub Jager said:

"If the Serb camp spent this much time and effort against Millosevic (their own worst enemy and instigator to Kosovo's Independence) as they spend on Kosovo issue, Serbia wouldn't be at this situation"

Please stop using Milosevic as your excuse for this and everything else that is wrong in your life.

Albanians had plans to get rid of Serbs and secede way before Milosevic was even born. How many times have I read your comments saying openly that you have waited for a hundred years for this?

Mister

pre 14 godina

"This has to be my favorite comment that I continually read on here.
With the changes in the world over the last 100 more to the point the last 50, it is really hard to imagine what the world will be like in 500 years, but one thing is for certain Kosovo being apart of Serbia is not going to be a hot topic.
With globalization I see the world being either under one rule or 2-3 separate powers and any individuality merely museum pieces.
Of course in the year 2510 Serbia could be the name given to one of the settlements on other planets.
(pss, 3 December 2009 22:56)"

In line with your comment I think it is fair to say one is a "space cadet" my friend.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The way it will go down it will be Serbia not likely but let say Greece too against Bosnia, Croatia, Albania, Turkey and not likely but lets say Macedonia.

Than Presevo will be gone, Sandjak will be gone and maybe than the Vojvodina will be gone and Republika Serbska.
(UNE, 3 December 2009 15:09)

Will you be enlisting too or would you like your brothers to risk their lives in order to satisfy your lust for war?