The world is moving back to nuclear. As much as 100 are being planned in EU state, not all will be constructed.
The French are aggressively pushing the return of nuclear. And Germans have dropped their objections to nuclear power.
Furthermore, neighbouring states like Slovenia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria have them and Croatia and Albania are planning such plants.
Also, Serbia posses uranium deposits in the east of the country (http://www.photius.com/countries/serbia_and_montenegro/economy/yugoslavia_former_economy_energy_and_mineral_r~11882.html) enough to supply the many reactors communist plans once envision building.
The communist plans called for some 23 nuclear reactors for the entire country (http://www.csees.net/?page=news&news_id=30309&country_id=8).
The notion that new Russian nuclear technology is banned in Russia is absurd. Derelict technologies from late 60s and early 70s.
Anyways. The only problem Russia could cause problems during Serbia's EU bid since Areva is a French firm with government connections. And French wouldn't like a country taking Russian, Canadian, American or Japanese companies.
We must have this plant and all following "scientific practice". We must have "source".., or/and "legalization method" and excuse for the future tasks. "Deus ex machina" at this stage for our homeland and the most important thing to be solved. Serbia to Tokyo, all the way - over Kamchatka!
Who wants to live next door to a nuclear plant?
Where would the waste be disposed?
Why has nobody from the Serbian government informed its people of this plan?
Its easy to say let go nuclear but how that affect our agricultural image - 'Come to Serbia, land of fresh produce and nuclear plants.'
By the way it would be extremely foolish to use Vinci just outside Belgrade as a site. That is not the kind of risk taken in other countries with its proximity to a huge population.
In fact it was very foolish of Tito and his lot to create Vinci in the first place.
can't we just skip the plant and go straight to the missles? hahahaha kidding! but seriously though...
(stari, 30 November 2009 19:37)
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I wonder where they'll hide the uranium enrichment plants? :)
I don't see what the problem is (apart from the point that no-one was actually asked). From a techincal point of view:
1: Nuclear is the only way to meet CO2 goals and even Germany has dropped its plans to close all its reactors and others are also dropping such policies;
2: Russian reactors dangerous? Chernobyl was not a mechanical failure but caused by human intervention. The scientists carried out an experiment where they had to turn off both the automatic (computer controlled) and the manual safety systems to do the test.
3: It has just been announced that the last two bidders for UK's new nuclear power project have been ruled out, both designs Areva (France) and Westinghouse (now owned by Toshiba of Japan) had significant design faults, the latter supposedly advanced 3g design being built in Finland still delayed due to serious problems, so no new nuclear plants in the UK before 2018;
4: Now that the IAEA has voted to set up the LEU nuclear fuel bank (in Russia), transparent access to fuel is basically guaranteed and accessible to all who are signed up to the NPTP.
Don´t worry about the nuclear waste Zoran, Russia will take care of that, they have the territory and required places for it.
Of course serbia will benefit from this, we will build a "research center" as well, require capacity and know-how in order to quickly produce warheads if western cowards threathens to bomb us again. Western cowards never bomb a country that can defend itself and absolutely never a nuclear power...
The PM of Albania wanted to build one too. A small accident in windy day and nations like Albania and Serbia vanish. Maybe Russia needs people to populate Siberia so they want to chase Balkanites out ?
Hope the Russians leave us enough Uranium U-235.
A few kg of this substance would do us Serbs more favor than all UN resolutions combined.
There doesn`t exist so called humanism or "international law".Might is always right.
Unless Serbia is intending to build nuclear warheads, I'm totally against such a project.
Look, we are getting South Stream so why not build natural gas powered generators? It is much cleaner than coal and should do the job. Also, nuclear waste is expensive to process.
Thumbs up for both comentators; dean and Ataman.
(Kosova-USA, 30 November 2009 15:22)
That's just a question of "hell" versus "heaven".
Hell:
- your cook is British
- your car is Italian
- your police is German
- your home is Japanese
- your salary is Chinese
- your g/f is American
Heaven:
- your cook is Chinese
- your car is German
- your police is British
- your home is Italian
- your salary is American
- your g/f is Japanese
Anyway, strictly following the engineering spec is great for nuclear plants and car manufacturing. Not necessarily good for law enforcement.
(and of course American salaries are better than American g/f)
(And to tell the truth: German homes are usually better engineered than Italian ones. IMO, Japanese food is less greasy than Chinese and German girls are not bad either. But the above combination is roughly OK)
This is great news! Hope they build it close to the administrative line with Kosovo.
Serbia should also develope neuclear warheads in case of continued aggression and occupation of our country.
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
(dean van der serbia, 30 November 2009 13:55)
As far as I know, the technology did improve since Chernobyl significantly.
The problem is rather the human factor and the mentality, not the technology per se. Chernobyl was 99.99% sloppiness. The "Russian" sloppiness is unfortunately not alien to Balkan and to USA. From engineering point of view the entire world should be Japanese or German.
Don´nt be ridiculous Dean! Russian UPPGRADED know-how in this area is not forbidden in €USSR. But maybe the move will anger the western powers and cause sanctions (again) since they consider Serbs & Serbia a "axis of evil".
If this is true, then it is genuine nonsense of Serbian Government:
- first of all, did they consider to consult the Serbian public opinion on the nuclear power issue? In the case of such a fundamental question, it is not the "free will" of any Government to do what they want, but they should be calling the Referendum on the subject, as it was done all around Europe.
- second of all, they should know that if Serbia's main strategic goal is to join the EU, they will not be allowed to do so and join EU with Russian nuclear power stations and technology which is banned in EU!
All ex-communist countries from ex-Warsaw pact had to (or they are in the process of doing so) close this kind of power stations and Russian made nuclear reactors!
So this news by Russian Ambassador directly in garbage bin!
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
That is a bright future for Serbia and Serbians indeed just slightly over-radioactive.
Thanks on that, but very much better NO.
This is great news! Hope they build it close to the administrative line with Kosovo.
Serbia should also develope neuclear warheads in case of continued aggression and occupation of our country.
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
(dean van der serbia, 30 November 2009 13:55)
As far as I know, the technology did improve since Chernobyl significantly.
The problem is rather the human factor and the mentality, not the technology per se. Chernobyl was 99.99% sloppiness. The "Russian" sloppiness is unfortunately not alien to Balkan and to USA. From engineering point of view the entire world should be Japanese or German.
Hope the Russians leave us enough Uranium U-235.
A few kg of this substance would do us Serbs more favor than all UN resolutions combined.
There doesn`t exist so called humanism or "international law".Might is always right.
If this is true, then it is genuine nonsense of Serbian Government:
- first of all, did they consider to consult the Serbian public opinion on the nuclear power issue? In the case of such a fundamental question, it is not the "free will" of any Government to do what they want, but they should be calling the Referendum on the subject, as it was done all around Europe.
- second of all, they should know that if Serbia's main strategic goal is to join the EU, they will not be allowed to do so and join EU with Russian nuclear power stations and technology which is banned in EU!
All ex-communist countries from ex-Warsaw pact had to (or they are in the process of doing so) close this kind of power stations and Russian made nuclear reactors!
So this news by Russian Ambassador directly in garbage bin!
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
That is a bright future for Serbia and Serbians indeed just slightly over-radioactive.
Thanks on that, but very much better NO.
Don´t worry about the nuclear waste Zoran, Russia will take care of that, they have the territory and required places for it.
Of course serbia will benefit from this, we will build a "research center" as well, require capacity and know-how in order to quickly produce warheads if western cowards threathens to bomb us again. Western cowards never bomb a country that can defend itself and absolutely never a nuclear power...
Don´nt be ridiculous Dean! Russian UPPGRADED know-how in this area is not forbidden in €USSR. But maybe the move will anger the western powers and cause sanctions (again) since they consider Serbs & Serbia a "axis of evil".
Unless Serbia is intending to build nuclear warheads, I'm totally against such a project.
Look, we are getting South Stream so why not build natural gas powered generators? It is much cleaner than coal and should do the job. Also, nuclear waste is expensive to process.
Thumbs up for both comentators; dean and Ataman.
(Kosova-USA, 30 November 2009 15:22)
That's just a question of "hell" versus "heaven".
Hell:
- your cook is British
- your car is Italian
- your police is German
- your home is Japanese
- your salary is Chinese
- your g/f is American
Heaven:
- your cook is Chinese
- your car is German
- your police is British
- your home is Italian
- your salary is American
- your g/f is Japanese
Anyway, strictly following the engineering spec is great for nuclear plants and car manufacturing. Not necessarily good for law enforcement.
(and of course American salaries are better than American g/f)
(And to tell the truth: German homes are usually better engineered than Italian ones. IMO, Japanese food is less greasy than Chinese and German girls are not bad either. But the above combination is roughly OK)
We must have this plant and all following "scientific practice". We must have "source".., or/and "legalization method" and excuse for the future tasks. "Deus ex machina" at this stage for our homeland and the most important thing to be solved. Serbia to Tokyo, all the way - over Kamchatka!
Who wants to live next door to a nuclear plant?
Where would the waste be disposed?
Why has nobody from the Serbian government informed its people of this plan?
Its easy to say let go nuclear but how that affect our agricultural image - 'Come to Serbia, land of fresh produce and nuclear plants.'
By the way it would be extremely foolish to use Vinci just outside Belgrade as a site. That is not the kind of risk taken in other countries with its proximity to a huge population.
In fact it was very foolish of Tito and his lot to create Vinci in the first place.
can't we just skip the plant and go straight to the missles? hahahaha kidding! but seriously though...
(stari, 30 November 2009 19:37)
--
I wonder where they'll hide the uranium enrichment plants? :)
The PM of Albania wanted to build one too. A small accident in windy day and nations like Albania and Serbia vanish. Maybe Russia needs people to populate Siberia so they want to chase Balkanites out ?
I don't see what the problem is (apart from the point that no-one was actually asked). From a techincal point of view:
1: Nuclear is the only way to meet CO2 goals and even Germany has dropped its plans to close all its reactors and others are also dropping such policies;
2: Russian reactors dangerous? Chernobyl was not a mechanical failure but caused by human intervention. The scientists carried out an experiment where they had to turn off both the automatic (computer controlled) and the manual safety systems to do the test.
3: It has just been announced that the last two bidders for UK's new nuclear power project have been ruled out, both designs Areva (France) and Westinghouse (now owned by Toshiba of Japan) had significant design faults, the latter supposedly advanced 3g design being built in Finland still delayed due to serious problems, so no new nuclear plants in the UK before 2018;
4: Now that the IAEA has voted to set up the LEU nuclear fuel bank (in Russia), transparent access to fuel is basically guaranteed and accessible to all who are signed up to the NPTP.
The world is moving back to nuclear. As much as 100 are being planned in EU state, not all will be constructed.
The French are aggressively pushing the return of nuclear. And Germans have dropped their objections to nuclear power.
Furthermore, neighbouring states like Slovenia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria have them and Croatia and Albania are planning such plants.
Also, Serbia posses uranium deposits in the east of the country (http://www.photius.com/countries/serbia_and_montenegro/economy/yugoslavia_former_economy_energy_and_mineral_r~11882.html) enough to supply the many reactors communist plans once envision building.
The communist plans called for some 23 nuclear reactors for the entire country (http://www.csees.net/?page=news&news_id=30309&country_id=8).
The notion that new Russian nuclear technology is banned in Russia is absurd. Derelict technologies from late 60s and early 70s.
Anyways. The only problem Russia could cause problems during Serbia's EU bid since Areva is a French firm with government connections. And French wouldn't like a country taking Russian, Canadian, American or Japanese companies.
This is great news! Hope they build it close to the administrative line with Kosovo.
Serbia should also develope neuclear warheads in case of continued aggression and occupation of our country.
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
(dean van der serbia, 30 November 2009 13:55)
As far as I know, the technology did improve since Chernobyl significantly.
The problem is rather the human factor and the mentality, not the technology per se. Chernobyl was 99.99% sloppiness. The "Russian" sloppiness is unfortunately not alien to Balkan and to USA. From engineering point of view the entire world should be Japanese or German.
Don´nt be ridiculous Dean! Russian UPPGRADED know-how in this area is not forbidden in €USSR. But maybe the move will anger the western powers and cause sanctions (again) since they consider Serbs & Serbia a "axis of evil".
If this is true, then it is genuine nonsense of Serbian Government:
- first of all, did they consider to consult the Serbian public opinion on the nuclear power issue? In the case of such a fundamental question, it is not the "free will" of any Government to do what they want, but they should be calling the Referendum on the subject, as it was done all around Europe.
- second of all, they should know that if Serbia's main strategic goal is to join the EU, they will not be allowed to do so and join EU with Russian nuclear power stations and technology which is banned in EU!
All ex-communist countries from ex-Warsaw pact had to (or they are in the process of doing so) close this kind of power stations and Russian made nuclear reactors!
So this news by Russian Ambassador directly in garbage bin!
From US we got depleted uranium bombs and from Russia we will be having Chernobyl style and quality nuclear reactors?!
That is a bright future for Serbia and Serbians indeed just slightly over-radioactive.
Thanks on that, but very much better NO.
Unless Serbia is intending to build nuclear warheads, I'm totally against such a project.
Look, we are getting South Stream so why not build natural gas powered generators? It is much cleaner than coal and should do the job. Also, nuclear waste is expensive to process.
The PM of Albania wanted to build one too. A small accident in windy day and nations like Albania and Serbia vanish. Maybe Russia needs people to populate Siberia so they want to chase Balkanites out ?
Who wants to live next door to a nuclear plant?
Where would the waste be disposed?
Why has nobody from the Serbian government informed its people of this plan?
Its easy to say let go nuclear but how that affect our agricultural image - 'Come to Serbia, land of fresh produce and nuclear plants.'
By the way it would be extremely foolish to use Vinci just outside Belgrade as a site. That is not the kind of risk taken in other countries with its proximity to a huge population.
In fact it was very foolish of Tito and his lot to create Vinci in the first place.
Hope the Russians leave us enough Uranium U-235.
A few kg of this substance would do us Serbs more favor than all UN resolutions combined.
There doesn`t exist so called humanism or "international law".Might is always right.
Thumbs up for both comentators; dean and Ataman.
(Kosova-USA, 30 November 2009 15:22)
That's just a question of "hell" versus "heaven".
Hell:
- your cook is British
- your car is Italian
- your police is German
- your home is Japanese
- your salary is Chinese
- your g/f is American
Heaven:
- your cook is Chinese
- your car is German
- your police is British
- your home is Italian
- your salary is American
- your g/f is Japanese
Anyway, strictly following the engineering spec is great for nuclear plants and car manufacturing. Not necessarily good for law enforcement.
(and of course American salaries are better than American g/f)
(And to tell the truth: German homes are usually better engineered than Italian ones. IMO, Japanese food is less greasy than Chinese and German girls are not bad either. But the above combination is roughly OK)
Don´t worry about the nuclear waste Zoran, Russia will take care of that, they have the territory and required places for it.
Of course serbia will benefit from this, we will build a "research center" as well, require capacity and know-how in order to quickly produce warheads if western cowards threathens to bomb us again. Western cowards never bomb a country that can defend itself and absolutely never a nuclear power...
I don't see what the problem is (apart from the point that no-one was actually asked). From a techincal point of view:
1: Nuclear is the only way to meet CO2 goals and even Germany has dropped its plans to close all its reactors and others are also dropping such policies;
2: Russian reactors dangerous? Chernobyl was not a mechanical failure but caused by human intervention. The scientists carried out an experiment where they had to turn off both the automatic (computer controlled) and the manual safety systems to do the test.
3: It has just been announced that the last two bidders for UK's new nuclear power project have been ruled out, both designs Areva (France) and Westinghouse (now owned by Toshiba of Japan) had significant design faults, the latter supposedly advanced 3g design being built in Finland still delayed due to serious problems, so no new nuclear plants in the UK before 2018;
4: Now that the IAEA has voted to set up the LEU nuclear fuel bank (in Russia), transparent access to fuel is basically guaranteed and accessible to all who are signed up to the NPTP.
can't we just skip the plant and go straight to the missles? hahahaha kidding! but seriously though...
(stari, 30 November 2009 19:37)
--
I wonder where they'll hide the uranium enrichment plants? :)
We must have this plant and all following "scientific practice". We must have "source".., or/and "legalization method" and excuse for the future tasks. "Deus ex machina" at this stage for our homeland and the most important thing to be solved. Serbia to Tokyo, all the way - over Kamchatka!
The world is moving back to nuclear. As much as 100 are being planned in EU state, not all will be constructed.
The French are aggressively pushing the return of nuclear. And Germans have dropped their objections to nuclear power.
Furthermore, neighbouring states like Slovenia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria have them and Croatia and Albania are planning such plants.
Also, Serbia posses uranium deposits in the east of the country (http://www.photius.com/countries/serbia_and_montenegro/economy/yugoslavia_former_economy_energy_and_mineral_r~11882.html) enough to supply the many reactors communist plans once envision building.
The communist plans called for some 23 nuclear reactors for the entire country (http://www.csees.net/?page=news&news_id=30309&country_id=8).
The notion that new Russian nuclear technology is banned in Russia is absurd. Derelict technologies from late 60s and early 70s.
Anyways. The only problem Russia could cause problems during Serbia's EU bid since Areva is a French firm with government connections. And French wouldn't like a country taking Russian, Canadian, American or Japanese companies.
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