Serbia "respects Macedonia's name"

No Djelic, you are lying. Serbia does not respect FYROM's name, because Serbs know that real Macedonians are Greeks, not Slavs. Tadic's yellow government respects this fake name (which was invented by Tito to further weaken Serbia's influence), and that is all.

This is the second time in as many weeks this has been brought up. I wonder what these people are up to?

My excuses to brotherhood Greek nation.
We will be getting rid of this kind of political clown-ish figures who are insulting our relation with our crucial and best friends.
Nothing less then resignation is expected from Djelic for this type of insulting statements and statements which are going against fundamental Serbian interests.

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas

Well, Djelic speaks exactly the opposite from his fellow Governments Officials just few days ago.
It would be much better if he keeps his mouth closed.

Certainly our interest goes with friendly nation Greece and not with so called "Macedonia" which stabbed us in the back with their "day after" so called Kosovo recognition.

Don't worry so called "Macedonians"...average Serbians do have much better memory then that Djelic and will not forget.

I just don't understand Serbian officials trying so hard to upset Greece!?
Mark my word that Greece will pay you back in short future by recognizing Kosova.

It is understandable. Serbs and Slavo Macedonians are both invaders in the Balkans. Serbs claim land that it isn't theirs,Macedonians claim a name that isn't theirs.Nothing strange there.

VUK Jeremic didnt even say the name Fyrom!He said the neighbouring country....People from FYROM or VARDARSKA as it was its name before Tito change it ,have no history at all.Where are the monuments of FYROM people in the region? The same is for YOU albanians from kosovo where is your history?where are your monuments in kosovo?Even turks left monuments proving theire existance in kosovo.Check in Google your history!!!

I wonder why should Serbia irritate the Greeks so persistantly ? Why not avoid the discussion or call the two friendly states to come to a compromise ? Why not offer Serbia as an intermediator in the negotiations ? This would automatically mean neutrality in the sensitive matter. Serbia has too little real friends to spoil it's relations with one of them. The one with veto in NATO and a voice in EU. Besides all three have the same rival nation. We in Russia has managed not to back any side while we depend little on any of the wranglers. So why should Serbia behave different ? I wonder if they gave you any explanation of why having two friends is worse than having one ? The weakest one ...

There is obviously disagreement within the ruling coalition and DS on Macedonia.

Like I suspect the majority of Serbs, I would leave this issue alone but I find it hard to act like a saint when Macedonia interfered by recognising Kosovo. Likewise I believe the majority of Macedonians would rather leave the Kosovo issue alone (don't upset Albanians or Serbs - the Macedonian interest). I don't particularly want to punish people that wish me no ill.

The problem from the Serbian perspective is that this is shutting the door after the horse has bolted. If we are now to reverse course by revoking recognition of Macedonia this should have been stated clearly to the Macedonians as a matter of fact, if they recognised Kosovo. A timeframe should have been presented to the Macedonian government how this would be carried out and how quickly the government and then parliament would confirm this.

But this did not happen. Although I am angry with the Macedonian decision on balance I would keep a neutral policy on Macedonia. They and other Balkan countries that recognised Kosovo owe Serbia big time and in international diplomacy they will have to pay a price.

As for Greece their friendship is welcome but Greece has a position on Kosovo, not through friendship but through their self interest.

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas
(Vasilis, 27 November 2009 17:38)

Real Serbian borthers are Macedonians and Montenigrins.

The Macedonia-Serbia brotherhood is strong and solid the difficulties will be overcome. Good willing.

Serbia has good relation with you Greeks but you are not related to the Serbs in any way or shape.

You are not Serbias brothers.

Real Serbian borthers are Macedonians and Montenigrins.

The Macedonia-Serbia brotherhood is strong and solid the difficulties will be overcome. Good willing.

Serbia has good relation with you Greeks but you are not related to the Serbs in any way or shape.

You are not Serbias brothers.
(MacAlexander, 27 November 2009 22:25)

MacAlexander, I would suggest you don't speak for Serbian people.
What sort of brothers are you when you stabbed Serbs in the back by recognising Kosovo? This was no an act of brotherhood.

So your attempt to cause a rift between Serbs and Greeks is not going to work.

Just speak on your behalf and let the Serbs decide who they wish to be brothers with.

That is not what Jeremic said during Greek FM visting Srbia.

Once and for all there is no Albanian Government in Kosovo there is a Kosovo Government as it intails Serb, Turkish, Bosniak, Roma Ministers and MP's.

Haha "Brother Serbs". Greece is not your brother it would sell out Serbia at the drop of a hat. Macedonia will always be close to Serbs no matter what the gov't in Macedonia is pressured to do by the EU and US. Everybody knows that as a fact.

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas
(Vasilis, 27 November 2009 17:38)

Vasilis - i like Greece, but I don't understand what problem have Greece with Macedonia name. State of Macedonia lies in the historic region of Macedonia - so what other name can have this state??

There is state of Moldova and historic region of Moldova in Romania. There is state of Luxemburg and historic province of Luxemburg in Belgium. There is state of Azerbaijan and iranian region of Azerbaijan. There is state of Mongolia and chinese region of Inner Mongolia. These states have any problems with name.

Do You really think, that small Macedonia will start claims for Greek lands??

This is because Serbia wants to eventually expand its military precesce in Macedonia. They opened a military base in Presevo, and being nice to Macedonia will make it easier for Serbia to step in a Macedonia's "protector" when the name dispute boils over after the Macedonian-Albanians say "Give into Greece or else!" This will enable Serbia to threatned Kosovo from the south and project its influence over Kosovo's southern Serb minorities.

@Peggy,

you dont get to pick who you're brothers are...just an FYI.
(@Peggy, 29 November 2009 04:42)

Tell that to the FYROMs who have picked their side already and now want the very person they stabbed in the back to back them up.

BTW, since when are Bulgarians and Serbs brothers?

To Mark,What do you mean we came to the Balkans after Greeks?Are you a dreamer or what!Macedonians came to this area centuries before you Greeks,dont you ever forget that.Secondly,you are not even Greek,just take a look at your ancestry my friend,than take a look at our four thousand years in pre-1913 Macedonia.Why dont you call the Serbians as Slavo-Serbians or Slavo-Bulgarians etc?We all speak slavic language my friend.

@Peggy,

you dont get to pick who you're brothers are...just an FYI.

I just don't understand Serbian officials trying so hard to upset Greece!?
Mark my word that Greece will pay you back in short future by recognizing Kosova.

That is not what Jeremic said during Greek FM visting Srbia.

Once and for all there is no Albanian Government in Kosovo there is a Kosovo Government as it intails Serb, Turkish, Bosniak, Roma Ministers and MP's.

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas
(Vasilis, 27 November 2009 17:38)

Real Serbian borthers are Macedonians and Montenigrins.

The Macedonia-Serbia brotherhood is strong and solid the difficulties will be overcome. Good willing.

Serbia has good relation with you Greeks but you are not related to the Serbs in any way or shape.

You are not Serbias brothers.

VUK Jeremic didnt even say the name Fyrom!He said the neighbouring country....People from FYROM or VARDARSKA as it was its name before Tito change it ,have no history at all.Where are the monuments of FYROM people in the region? The same is for YOU albanians from kosovo where is your history?where are your monuments in kosovo?Even turks left monuments proving theire existance in kosovo.Check in Google your history!!!

My excuses to brotherhood Greek nation.
We will be getting rid of this kind of political clown-ish figures who are insulting our relation with our crucial and best friends.
Nothing less then resignation is expected from Djelic for this type of insulting statements and statements which are going against fundamental Serbian interests.

Haha "Brother Serbs". Greece is not your brother it would sell out Serbia at the drop of a hat. Macedonia will always be close to Serbs no matter what the gov't in Macedonia is pressured to do by the EU and US. Everybody knows that as a fact.

This is the second time in as many weeks this has been brought up. I wonder what these people are up to?

No Djelic, you are lying. Serbia does not respect FYROM's name, because Serbs know that real Macedonians are Greeks, not Slavs. Tadic's yellow government respects this fake name (which was invented by Tito to further weaken Serbia's influence), and that is all.

It is understandable. Serbs and Slavo Macedonians are both invaders in the Balkans. Serbs claim land that it isn't theirs,Macedonians claim a name that isn't theirs.Nothing strange there.

There is obviously disagreement within the ruling coalition and DS on Macedonia.

Like I suspect the majority of Serbs, I would leave this issue alone but I find it hard to act like a saint when Macedonia interfered by recognising Kosovo. Likewise I believe the majority of Macedonians would rather leave the Kosovo issue alone (don't upset Albanians or Serbs - the Macedonian interest). I don't particularly want to punish people that wish me no ill.

The problem from the Serbian perspective is that this is shutting the door after the horse has bolted. If we are now to reverse course by revoking recognition of Macedonia this should have been stated clearly to the Macedonians as a matter of fact, if they recognised Kosovo. A timeframe should have been presented to the Macedonian government how this would be carried out and how quickly the government and then parliament would confirm this.

But this did not happen. Although I am angry with the Macedonian decision on balance I would keep a neutral policy on Macedonia. They and other Balkan countries that recognised Kosovo owe Serbia big time and in international diplomacy they will have to pay a price.

As for Greece their friendship is welcome but Greece has a position on Kosovo, not through friendship but through their self interest.

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas
(Vasilis, 27 November 2009 17:38)

Vasilis - i like Greece, but I don't understand what problem have Greece with Macedonia name. State of Macedonia lies in the historic region of Macedonia - so what other name can have this state??

There is state of Moldova and historic region of Moldova in Romania. There is state of Luxemburg and historic province of Luxemburg in Belgium. There is state of Azerbaijan and iranian region of Azerbaijan. There is state of Mongolia and chinese region of Inner Mongolia. These states have any problems with name.

Do You really think, that small Macedonia will start claims for Greek lands??

Probably is the only thing that i dont understand to my brothers Serbians. Many people cant combine history with name.

Vasilis Hellas

Well, Djelic speaks exactly the opposite from his fellow Governments Officials just few days ago.
It would be much better if he keeps his mouth closed.

Certainly our interest goes with friendly nation Greece and not with so called "Macedonia" which stabbed us in the back with their "day after" so called Kosovo recognition.

Don't worry so called "Macedonians"...average Serbians do have much better memory then that Djelic and will not forget.

This is because Serbia wants to eventually expand its military precesce in Macedonia. They opened a military base in Presevo, and being nice to Macedonia will make it easier for Serbia to step in a Macedonia's "protector" when the name dispute boils over after the Macedonian-Albanians say "Give into Greece or else!" This will enable Serbia to threatned Kosovo from the south and project its influence over Kosovo's southern Serb minorities.

Real Serbian borthers are Macedonians and Montenigrins.

The Macedonia-Serbia brotherhood is strong and solid the difficulties will be overcome. Good willing.

Serbia has good relation with you Greeks but you are not related to the Serbs in any way or shape.

You are not Serbias brothers.
(MacAlexander, 27 November 2009 22:25)

MacAlexander, I would suggest you don't speak for Serbian people.
What sort of brothers are you when you stabbed Serbs in the back by recognising Kosovo? This was no an act of brotherhood.

So your attempt to cause a rift between Serbs and Greeks is not going to work.

Just speak on your behalf and let the Serbs decide who they wish to be brothers with.

To Mark,What do you mean we came to the Balkans after Greeks?Are you a dreamer or what!Macedonians came to this area centuries before you Greeks,dont you ever forget that.Secondly,you are not even Greek,just take a look at your ancestry my friend,than take a look at our four thousand years in pre-1913 Macedonia.Why dont you call the Serbians as Slavo-Serbians or Slavo-Bulgarians etc?We all speak slavic language my friend.

I wonder why should Serbia irritate the Greeks so persistantly ? Why not avoid the discussion or call the two friendly states to come to a compromise ? Why not offer Serbia as an intermediator in the negotiations ? This would automatically mean neutrality in the sensitive matter. Serbia has too little real friends to spoil it's relations with one of them. The one with veto in NATO and a voice in EU. Besides all three have the same rival nation. We in Russia has managed not to back any side while we depend little on any of the wranglers. So why should Serbia behave different ? I wonder if they gave you any explanation of why having two friends is worse than having one ? The weakest one ...

@Peggy,

you dont get to pick who you're brothers are...just an FYI.

@Peggy,

you dont get to pick who you're brothers are...just an FYI.
(@Peggy, 29 November 2009 04:42)

Tell that to the FYROMs who have picked their side already and now want the very person they stabbed in the back to back them up.

BTW, since when are Bulgarians and Serbs brothers?