Yushchenko pledges to force Russian navy out

There are three forces in the Ukraine: Yushenko represents nationalists, Timoshenko is a populist (closer to the left wing), and Yanukovich is a businessman but they have one thing in common which is corruption.Timishenko is reputed to have amass a fortune of $11 billion.

Yushenko is absolutely destructive for his country just like Saakashvili has been for his.

They call themselves democrats in order justify their aggressive russophobic nationalism.

The good news,though, for the Ukranians is that Yushenko represents now a very small fraction of them.

Since the new world order project has gone bust -there are no more funds to finance the resurrection- i can see puppets like Yushenko and Saak falling everywhere.
The neocons empire is at the ebb now.

but they have one thing in common which is corruption.
(Leonidas, 23 November 2009 15:54)

Ukraina is the most corrupt out of the tree "Russian" post-USSR countries. The least corrupt is said to be the Belarus, even that Lukashenko human rights record is not pretty.

On the other hand I don't understand that hoopla around Lukashenko: he is much better than the late Saparmurat Niyazov "Turkmenbashi" and to a much lesser degree a stalinist. Turkmenbashi made Kim Jong Il look like liberal democrat - but still barely anyone in the Western media did dare to criticize him. Maybe because so much hope about Nabucco is tied to Turkmenistan? Betting on Turkmenistan, even on Azerbaijan is pure insanity - these countries "feature" highest corruption combined with worst stalinist attitudes.

Don't worry, the lease for the russian naval base will be prolonged for maybe 99 years or something when Julia or Janukovic comes into power.
Just wait a few years when southstream is finished and Ukraine will be freezing with no money from NATO or EU.. Then the lease will be extended.

Leonidas

I think you are a bit mistaken thsi time as to Timoshenko's porn past.To my best knowlage a russian porn director made a short porn movie titled "Julia" where the main character resembled Timoshenko.The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.

Wow!. I didn't know that about pretty Yulia. What a surprise.
(Joe, 23 November 2009 16:55)

I see it rather positive: finally a politician who got the money clean way, promoting love and family values. ;-)

Much better than from sources like NRA, KGB/Gazprom, cigarette smuggling, selling parts of Serbs who were slaughtered for that purpose, having venal vodka infusion permanently, poisoning people with Aspartame, chewing neckties or calling for Iranian Revolutionary Guards stroll on streets of Budapest

The zoo is big - and only Yulia is the one whom I would not give 10 year minimum sentence for what she did. And you can even try that at home on your own. Very healthy thing. The only side-effect is, you can make babies, don't tell me you weren't warned. ;-)

Ataman,

A bit off topic I have read this recently http://www.hirado.hu/Hirek/2009/11/20/16/A_fovarosi_Fazekas_a_legjobb_gimnazium.aspx
For those who do not read hungarian .Ataman's former secondary school Fazekas Accedemic Grammar School based on accademic contest results and admission rate for higher education is indicated stastisticly to be the best in the country.With such excelent graduates as Fussy Fazék(Ataman's self given nickname) no wonder at least not for me.As to Macas(chicks).There were a lot near your school.Just think about Mátyás square.AS to mental prostitutes I fully agree and already have encountered big protest among entelectuals surrounding me stating my theories regarding this question.They are not to happy hearing my views especially when happen to tell it face to face (and here I mean by mental prostituts not only those in parlament).

think you are a bit mistaken thsi time as to Timoshenko's porn past.To my best knowlage a russian porn director made a short porn movie titled "Julia" where the main character resembled Timoshenko.The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.
(szemi, 23 November 2009 17:35

It's also my understanding that she made the bulk of her fortune in the energy business by striking some clever deals with former Russian oligarhs.

The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.
(szemi, 23 November 2009 17:35)

True, and the male character was Saak.

The hope dies last, so I still hope, it was her who was involved in that honest, family-friendly business (as the only politician in the area). If you would prove, she got the money as a true businesswoman and not as a "dugós maca" I will be devastated. I value any "maca" who is working her butt off (literally) much higher than any politician. For sure, she:

- works 100% to satisfy the customer
- promotes love and understanding
- gives all her soul and body (we can say: "teljes mellbedobással dolgozik")
- makes anyone she has to work with exited

What else? How many politicians can do that?

If you drive from Pomáz to Üröm I suggest you to look on the side of the road. Even during the bad weather there are many barely clad young girls belonging to a certain minority stay on the roadside and promote their services.

I would just collect all and put them in the parliament. And who is in parliament - I would collect them and put them in jail.

I am sure, the country will improve overnight. At least, there will be less MENTAL prostitutes at the steering wheel ;-)

"Timishenko is reputed to have amass a fortune of $11 billion."
Leonidas

Yes, I heard that from my Russian colluege Irina (originally from Ogessa) too.

"Not bad for a woman which started her career in the porn industry."

Wow!. I didn't know that about pretty Yulia. What a surprise.

Szemi,

To be more straight: I would rather see Vlora Citaku in parliament and Albanian being the official language of the country - than SZDSZ. Unfortunately I can tell the same about MSZP, FIDESZ and probably MDF. "Jobbik" + Magyar Gárda guys is a very special case. While their opponents are mental prostitutes, these are just neo-nazi scum pure.

Feel free to name me any other political force in Hungary. I have no idea where Serbs got all their fears regarding Vojvodina from. Given how small the political dwarfs of Hungary are there is nothing to fear in coming decades.

I may vote coming April for MSZP or MDF tough - just to make sure, our friend Orbán won't get 2/3 majority and change the constitution. SZDSZ is out of question, I hope they go down the tube and never emerge.

It's also my understanding that she made the bulk of her fortune in the energy business by striking some clever deals with former Russian oligarhs.
(Leonidas, 23 November 2009 22:36)

Well, sleeping with an oligarh is still better than killing an oligarh. Even if oligarh should not be around to begin with.

Unfortunately it looks like you were wrong and me, too. :-(
Darn, Yulia was just a businesswoman not a hooker / porn star. What a disappointment. For a short period of time I did believe, she made money the honest way.

There are three forces in the Ukraine: Yushenko represents nationalists, Timoshenko is a populist (closer to the left wing), and Yanukovich is a businessman but they have one thing in common which is corruption.Timishenko is reputed to have amass a fortune of $11 billion.

Yushenko is absolutely destructive for his country just like Saakashvili has been for his.

They call themselves democrats in order justify their aggressive russophobic nationalism.

The good news,though, for the Ukranians is that Yushenko represents now a very small fraction of them.

Since the new world order project has gone bust -there are no more funds to finance the resurrection- i can see puppets like Yushenko and Saak falling everywhere.
The neocons empire is at the ebb now.

"Timishenko is reputed to have amass a fortune of $11 billion."
Leonidas

Yes, I heard that from my Russian colluege Irina (originally from Ogessa) too.

"Not bad for a woman which started her career in the porn industry."

Wow!. I didn't know that about pretty Yulia. What a surprise.

Don't worry, the lease for the russian naval base will be prolonged for maybe 99 years or something when Julia or Janukovic comes into power.
Just wait a few years when southstream is finished and Ukraine will be freezing with no money from NATO or EU.. Then the lease will be extended.

Wow!. I didn't know that about pretty Yulia. What a surprise.
(Joe, 23 November 2009 16:55)

I see it rather positive: finally a politician who got the money clean way, promoting love and family values. ;-)

Much better than from sources like NRA, KGB/Gazprom, cigarette smuggling, selling parts of Serbs who were slaughtered for that purpose, having venal vodka infusion permanently, poisoning people with Aspartame, chewing neckties or calling for Iranian Revolutionary Guards stroll on streets of Budapest

The zoo is big - and only Yulia is the one whom I would not give 10 year minimum sentence for what she did. And you can even try that at home on your own. Very healthy thing. The only side-effect is, you can make babies, don't tell me you weren't warned. ;-)

Leonidas

I think you are a bit mistaken thsi time as to Timoshenko's porn past.To my best knowlage a russian porn director made a short porn movie titled "Julia" where the main character resembled Timoshenko.The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.

but they have one thing in common which is corruption.
(Leonidas, 23 November 2009 15:54)

Ukraina is the most corrupt out of the tree "Russian" post-USSR countries. The least corrupt is said to be the Belarus, even that Lukashenko human rights record is not pretty.

On the other hand I don't understand that hoopla around Lukashenko: he is much better than the late Saparmurat Niyazov "Turkmenbashi" and to a much lesser degree a stalinist. Turkmenbashi made Kim Jong Il look like liberal democrat - but still barely anyone in the Western media did dare to criticize him. Maybe because so much hope about Nabucco is tied to Turkmenistan? Betting on Turkmenistan, even on Azerbaijan is pure insanity - these countries "feature" highest corruption combined with worst stalinist attitudes.

The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.
(szemi, 23 November 2009 17:35)

True, and the male character was Saak.

The hope dies last, so I still hope, it was her who was involved in that honest, family-friendly business (as the only politician in the area). If you would prove, she got the money as a true businesswoman and not as a "dugós maca" I will be devastated. I value any "maca" who is working her butt off (literally) much higher than any politician. For sure, she:

- works 100% to satisfy the customer
- promotes love and understanding
- gives all her soul and body (we can say: "teljes mellbedobással dolgozik")
- makes anyone she has to work with exited

What else? How many politicians can do that?

If you drive from Pomáz to Üröm I suggest you to look on the side of the road. Even during the bad weather there are many barely clad young girls belonging to a certain minority stay on the roadside and promote their services.

I would just collect all and put them in the parliament. And who is in parliament - I would collect them and put them in jail.

I am sure, the country will improve overnight. At least, there will be less MENTAL prostitutes at the steering wheel ;-)

Ataman,

A bit off topic I have read this recently http://www.hirado.hu/Hirek/2009/11/20/16/A_fovarosi_Fazekas_a_legjobb_gimnazium.aspx
For those who do not read hungarian .Ataman's former secondary school Fazekas Accedemic Grammar School based on accademic contest results and admission rate for higher education is indicated stastisticly to be the best in the country.With such excelent graduates as Fussy Fazék(Ataman's self given nickname) no wonder at least not for me.As to Macas(chicks).There were a lot near your school.Just think about Mátyás square.AS to mental prostitutes I fully agree and already have encountered big protest among entelectuals surrounding me stating my theories regarding this question.They are not to happy hearing my views especially when happen to tell it face to face (and here I mean by mental prostituts not only those in parlament).

think you are a bit mistaken thsi time as to Timoshenko's porn past.To my best knowlage a russian porn director made a short porn movie titled "Julia" where the main character resembled Timoshenko.The role was played by a young ukrainian porn star called jelena berkova who with a good make up is very similar to Timoshenko.
(szemi, 23 November 2009 17:35

It's also my understanding that she made the bulk of her fortune in the energy business by striking some clever deals with former Russian oligarhs.

Szemi,

To be more straight: I would rather see Vlora Citaku in parliament and Albanian being the official language of the country - than SZDSZ. Unfortunately I can tell the same about MSZP, FIDESZ and probably MDF. "Jobbik" + Magyar Gárda guys is a very special case. While their opponents are mental prostitutes, these are just neo-nazi scum pure.

Feel free to name me any other political force in Hungary. I have no idea where Serbs got all their fears regarding Vojvodina from. Given how small the political dwarfs of Hungary are there is nothing to fear in coming decades.

I may vote coming April for MSZP or MDF tough - just to make sure, our friend Orbán won't get 2/3 majority and change the constitution. SZDSZ is out of question, I hope they go down the tube and never emerge.

It's also my understanding that she made the bulk of her fortune in the energy business by striking some clever deals with former Russian oligarhs.
(Leonidas, 23 November 2009 22:36)

Well, sleeping with an oligarh is still better than killing an oligarh. Even if oligarh should not be around to begin with.

Unfortunately it looks like you were wrong and me, too. :-(
Darn, Yulia was just a businesswoman not a hooker / porn star. What a disappointment. For a short period of time I did believe, she made money the honest way.