Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo

It is kind of funny to see all these Albanian commentators stating that Nigeria doesn't matter, blah blah blah. The truth is that Vuk has again has gotten under their skin. If it really did not matter they would not be posting comments about it:)

All I can say is: Poore Jeremic, and god help Serbian people for beleiving in his fairy tail.
(Kosova-USA, 22 November 2009 16:21)

Since when does Vuk have a tail?

"This is the main reason why 63 powerful UN members have recognized us."

Does one of thoes 63 include the Dominican Republic?... what a funny comment that made me laugh really hard. Kosovo will never be part of the UN, China Russia India Israel along with other 130 UN power countries all agree Kosovo is Serbia.

Yes my dear Albanian citizens, Nigeria won't change a thing when it comes to the reality on the ground. However, if Nigeria recognised Kosovo tomorrow it would suddenly be one of the greatest countries in the free democratic world according to the very same ethnic Albanians here.

More significantly though, Nigeria shares the same opinion as most of the African continent, South America, Asia and the Middle East. The overwhelming majority of states in those regions, equating to a significant majority in the world, share Nigeria's opinion but even that isn't going to change the reality on the ground.

The only thing that will change reality and start the process towards peace and prosperity is when our ethnic Albanian citizens realise the occupiers (the US and most of EU) cannot deliver anything more than what is being offered.

More than autonomy, less than independence is self fulfilling and let me be clear, I doubt any Serbian here wants our ethnic Albanians under our control. I thank God the EU and US have the great "privilege" of looking after you lot. Serbia does not want that so we offer and provide self-rule but the facts remain, Kosovo is legally a province of Serbia and that will never change.

Wisen up, face reality and start talking my fellow citizens. You can rule yourselves and even those in Presevo but you will never become independent.

I can only thank Nigeria and the overwhelming majority of the world for standing firm and protecting what is right!

If Vuk is Doing a bad job on lobbying against then my dear Kosovar compatriots can you name me one just one single unique recognition because our foreign delegation influence. C’mon if you don’t like the game don’t hate the player. Vuk is doing a great job for Serbia giving the fact that he is going against the will of the most influential countries in the world. Just stop and compare Skender Hyseni with Vuk Jeremic, you get the picture – then compare their resumes – it is even worst. If we want to progress we need to do a better job and while we are at it, Hyseni should take some lessons from Jeremic..

reading "Demi´s" comment made me smile.

not only that he(or she? - I don´t know what Demi stands for, sorry ) believes that this cripple puppet-entity is "independent", he even dreams of being it " for ever"...

:)

many "friends" ( Mossadegh, the Shah Reza Pahlevi, Saddam Hussein, Noriega and several others...) of the US made that mistake before, and you won´t be the last, I guess.

Antekosova
"I don't think nobody from Nigeria will visit Serbia." If you'd like to write in my native language, please don't use double negatives. It should be "I don't think anybody..."
Besides, poor use of my language, your thinking is quite egocentric, as it's filled with schemas of analogy, to use Piaget's terms. How do you know what people in Nigeria know? You don't.

Did Jeremic again played the I-am-Muslim game towards Muslim countries and we-are-christians towards christian contries???

Jeremic's hypocracy never fails to amaze me?
(PRN, 23 November 2009 10:04)

Whatever he is doing seems to be working well.
Only 63 recognitions in all this time. No more on the horizon either.

BTW, why do you Albanians care so much if Vuk is wasting his time. It takes nothing away from you now, or does it?

"... Nigeria will never recognize Kosovo independence, Maduekwe said"

That would be a "tragedy" for Kosova and its residents for not being able to travel in that totally corrupt country with very dodgy individuals.
Whoever pays them more will get them on their side. Serbia is doing well so far...in Africa with love)))

Obviously this shows a fundamental lack of understanding from the Nigerian side concerning the declaration of independence by Kosova. To even compare Biafra with Kosova is frankly rude and offensive to Albanians and to suggest that Serbia negotiates with its 'brothers' in Kosova is beyond comprehension. What a joke!
Please read "Nigeria frowns at Kosovo's declaration of independence" African Press Agency

It is kind of funny to see all these Albanian commentators stating that Nigeria doesn't matter, blah blah blah. The truth is that Vuk has again has gotten under their skin. If it really did not matter they would not be posting comments about it:)
(Jason, 22 November 2009 15:22)

Well Vuk we albanians are happy that he is Serbias foreign minister because he does a bad job. And we are not worried about Nigeria at all and we just want you Serbs to know that. It is you Serbs who should worry because if you rely on Nigeria then you are in a bad spot.

Kosovo is independent and will stay so forever. Not even Russia cant do nothing about it.

"He promised that Nigeria would open an embassy in Belgrade soon. "

How many Nigerian people know where Serbia is. I don't think nobody from Nigeria will visit Serbia. Who cares about Nigeria, there is more Nigerian people working in Kosovo than people that have visited Serbia..

As if the people of Palau know where Kosovo is. All these albos say there is no going back. There is no going forward either, chum. And who says you get to keep all of the province. Face it, you had your chance and you blew it in 2004 when you tried to ethnic cleanse the Serbs out. Now, you pay for that.

i think he hasnt got any thing better to do. we all know there is no way going back
(ben kosova, 22 November 2009 22:11)

Speaking of people with nothing better to do, "Ben"...

Ah, if you can't get sympathy for your "self-determination" cause out of Africans, where can you get sympathy? The point is that dozens of African nations that fought off colonial oppressors (namely the very countries that support Kosovo: the Brits, the French, the Dutch, and so on) can't manage to find a common cause with the Kosovo Albanians UDI. That should tell you something.

O no! What does this mean for Kosovo? Will Kosovo become part of Serbia again? Will Nigeria invade Kosovo and give it back to Serbia?
Can someone explain this catastrophic move on the part of Nigeria?
Ahhh will we ever get recoginzed by third world underdeveloped dictatorships?

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić thanked Nigeria,"

Only another 120+ trips mr Vuk, ;)

Wow should we get worried now then ? Is Nigeria wrelly that important when we got Germany,France,Sweden,Italy on our side ? Not to mention the worldleader US.

Jeremic is a big fat joke. I wonder how the serbian people can handle this joker.

I am going to use the logic from the average Serb comment when a country recognises Kosovo to comment on this particular article.

Another Russian Puppet State!

If Vuk is Doing a bad job on lobbying against then my dear Kosovar compatriots can you name me one just one single unique recognition because our foreign delegation influence.
(frukyy, 22 November 2009 18:00)

It is a fact that we have a very bad diplomatic team in Kosovo, however we are lucky to have a just case. The independence of Kosovo was inevitable and it has brought peace and prosperity to the region. This is the main reason why 63 powerful UN members have recognized us.

He promised that Nigeria would open an embassy in Belgrade soon.


Is this some type of joke? Some on this site claim that if you don't have an embassy you are not recognized by the said country. And, I said many time that very few countries can aford to have an embassy in every country. The bottom line is I was right.

Second: Since when Serbia and Nigeria werethe founding of NAM?
That was founded by Tito and Naser of Egypt.

All I can say is: Poore Jeremic, and god help Serbian people for beleiving in his fairy tail.

@JASON
"Since when Vuk has a tail?"
Vuk had it always, but Vuk doesn't!

Listen everyone no one can really believe that Nigeria will recognize Kosovo independence. And Kosovo doesnt need recognition from Nigeria at this point. Havent people noticed that when leaders,ministers and delegations go to countries the country they are visiting always acts like they back them up and that same case with Vuk in Nigeria you sell if a Kosovar or Albanian delegation or any world delegation went to Nigeria to ask for Kosovo recognition this is what they would say " We will be reviewing the situation and put foward a recognition want" or similair bnecause they arent gonna make them self look bad when they r being visited so no one can really say countries wont and will recognize because no ones for sure what they r hiding or planning

'that every country in the world will have to recognize Kosovo, because it will join UN.'

Umm, not exactly - there are other countries that belong to the UN (Israel, for example) that some other countries do not recognize. Serbia and Cyprus can refuse to recognize Kosovo forever, but that won't prevent Kosovo from joining the UN.

Mauduekwe should simply say that Biafra would have become a high profile regional power that non-consequential people like him could not have become ministers in the best republic the world never had. Nigeria is for now a sore.

"Belgrade is impressed by the fact that Nigeria has become a pillar of stability, not only in Africa, but the entire world, and the fact that this should be confirmed in international institutions as well."-Nigeria a pillar of stability?!!! The CIA World Factbook says; "Nigeria continues to experience longstanding ethnic and religious tensions."

Anyways, I couldn't leave behind the article with the title jeremic not in Africa about Kosovo. But what is this about then?

The argument that the non-alignment made the world a better place is a little fuzzy and hard to believe. The world was not safe, the Cold War was just that because of AMD-assured mutual destruction by nuclear weapons.

Anyways, God bless, but words and deeds are not reflecting parallel on each other.

Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...
(ben, 23 November 2009 20:34)

and a very poor one, ben, as always :)

i am not surprised by the way things are developing at all. i fully expected this would be a stand-off between former colonies and their former masters. it is an aspect of this conflict that gets neglected by too many people.

No need to worry if Nigeria is going to recognize Kosovo independence or not. ICJ will rule on the independence in less than a month from now, and after that every country in the world will have to recognize Kosovo, because it will joing UN.

i think he hasnt got any thing better to do. we all know there is no way going back

That is why it is my great pleasure to greet my friend and brother Vuk Jeremić,” Maduekwe said.

brother Vuk Jeremić???

Did Jeremic again played the I-am-Muslim game towards Muslim countries and we-are-christians towards christian contries???

Jeremic's hypocracy never fails to amaze me?

dozens of African nations that fought off colonial oppressors (namely the very countries that support Kosovo: the Brits, the French, the Dutch, and so on) can't manage to find a common cause with the Kosovo Albanians UDI. That should tell you something.
(midwest_bo, 23 November 2009 18:37)
Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...

Do you have a clue about the inter-ethnic complexity of Nigeria???

The guy spends too much in vane; it could have been spent in more responsible manner. The lobbying he’s been doing for a very long time is nothing but a detriment to the taxpayers.

In reality, I think Vuk went there to pay the ransom for this guy:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=11&dd=22&nav_id=63225

How convenient that he escaped in the same time Vuk was there.
These statements about Kosovo are just a cover-up.

God bless Nigeria for not recognizing Kosovo.

what a shame, an Igbo man happy to have lost the Biafran war, because you given common ministerial post. I am so ashame of you Maduekwe

This Serbian Minister really cracks me up. Of course, we should be grateful to Serbia for its peaceful and diplomatic struggle to defend international peace and stability. For sure, world peace would be shaken up without Serbia, as if Serbia is the center of universe and any changes should get Serbia’s approval.
Kosovo is a done deal. The reality on the ground is a undeniable factor that goes against Serbia’s desire to keep Kosovo within its past internationally-recognized borders.
More time goes by more countries will recognize Kosovo as an independent state, fully represented in the United Nations, E.U. and other international organizations.
I am not sure how this Nigerian Minister can be a high official of Nigeria as he participated in splitting Nigeria when he participated as a youth in the war for the succession of Biafra. I hope he has misspoken on this matter. If that’s the case he should not be the Nigerian Foreign Minister, the country he fought against.
I wish Nigerian Foreign Minister good luck in his 2011 Belgrade summit to mark the 50th anniversary of the Non-aligned Movement. By 2011 a dozen of African states/nations would have recognized Kosovo’s independence, Nigeria included. I hope by then, Nigerian Minister would have resigned and joined the Biafra liberation forces. It will be a great example of Nigerian Minister’s commitment to set Biafra free from Nigeria.

At the moment Kosovo is a car with no engine. You can sit in it, turn the wheel, even make the noise of an engine, pretend you are changing gear, but its going nowhere.

Still lets polish it and make it look shiney and new. At least it can look like its going somewhere. After all you cant tell it hasn't got an engine from the outside.

Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...
(ben, 23 November 2009 20:34)

Ah ben, once again you have shown that you simply haven't a clue of the geo-political complexities of the post colonial African continent. To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries.

You see almost all African states were cobbled together by the colonial powers for their own benefit. The natives were not consulted of course and many tribes who were adversarties with each other found themselves sharing the one entity. Imperial powers like Belgium and the Brits also adopted a divide and rule strategy which set one tribe off against another. Because of this boneheaded policy enacted in particular by the Brits, post colonial Africa has been left in a shambolic and unstable state. The Congolese and Biafran wars were a legacy of colonial misrule and that is why many African states are extremely nervous of the Pandora's Box that the K-Albanians are threathening to unleash on the globe. That was the purpose of the Helsinki Agreement in 1976, to not only uphold the territorial integrity of the sovereign states but also to promote stability. The Agreement provided a legal mechanism for states to uphold the law and to prevent an ethnic minority(ies) within a state's jurisdiction from seceeding, thereby provoking conflict and instability. It has nothing to do ben with countries acting all colonial, its about self preservation and a state acting within its legal remit. What's so hard to understand that?

Another point why many developing and Non Aligned states (especially Arab and Muslim) states want nothing to do with Pristina is the paralles with Palestine. Last week the EU refused to endorse Palestine from going ahead with its UDI. This smacks of blatant hypocrisy and double standards. If the West can endorse Pristina's UDI, then why not Palestine. This is what irks many states. Clearly an indpedendent Palestine does not suit Western Imperial interests whereas Kosovo's does. See the double standards at play?

Ian, another fine gem from you. Now tell me this, how does this statement from Nigeria make it a Russian puppet. Are Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets too?

hahaha Niall, when I read your fist frase I thought: OK I will learn something new today. But then you continua with "To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries."

Which COMPLETELY confirms my post: the African countries deal with their interethnic diputes JUST AS SERBIA with Kosova.

And then since love is blindness you go with Ian asking him if "Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets"

Well what about are Japan, Germany, France, Australia etc US puppets???
(ben, 24 November 2009 16:31)

Did you bother your backside reading fully my post or are you just being argumentative for the sake of being. You damn right that any state which has restive ethnic minorities, many of them like DR Congo and Nigeria will never recognise Congo. I suggest you pick up a book and read about the history of Africa, the colonial period and the post colonial problems that many governments have faced in trying to their respective states together. I suggest 'To Katanga and back' by Conor Cruise O'Brien which gives a very deep insight on the Congolese Civil war and the role of the West in fermenting violence and secession in the Congo. See the assassination of President Patrice Lumumba and UN Sec Gen. Dag Hammerskjold to know about Western hypocrisy when it comes to Africa.

Now back to our solar toupe wearing Brit friend of ours Ian. Now Ian implied that Nigeria or any other state was a Russian puppet if it refused to follow US dictat in the Balkans. You and I know that statement is not worth commenting on. In reality any states know when they smell a rat and Kosovo's UDD is a big one.

history of western treachery in africa would help people understand why african countries refuse to recognise kosovo and why they were not happy about bombing of serbia 10 years ago either. they know that talk is cheap and don't buy the "humanitarian" pretext for military interventions.

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.
(Amer, 24 November 2009 17:17)

No its not. Madrid today said that it would only recognise Pristina's UDD if Serbia did.

Oh by the way, any chance if you know the genius who posted in a previous thread that Spain was still under the grip of Franco & his Generals.

Ah ben, once again you have shown that you simply haven't a clue of the geo-political complexities of the post colonial African continent. To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries.

Ian, another fine gem from you. Now tell me this, how does this statement from Nigeria make it a Russian puppet. Are Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets too?
(Niall O'Doherty, 24 November 2009 13:15)

hahaha Niall, when I read your fist frase I thought: OK I will learn something new today. But then you continua with "To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries."

Which COMPLETELY confirms my post: the African countries deal with their interethnic diputes JUST AS SERBIA with Kosova.

And then since love is blindness you go with Ian asking him if "Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets"

Well what about are Japan, Germany, France, Australia etc US puppets???

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.
(Amer, 24 November 2009 17:17)

No its not. Madrid today said that it would only recognise Pristina's UDD if Serbia did."

The article referred to three possibilities: recognition by Serbia, recognition by the UN, and taking into consideration "the decision by the International Court of Justice on the legality of Kosovo's independence declaration." Sounds like Spain's considering the idea to me.


"Oh by the way, any chance if you know the genius who posted in a previous thread that Spain was still under the grip of Franco & his Generals.
(Niall O'Doherty, 24 November 2009 20:50) "

That's what seeing "international law = 1244!" too many times can do to a person.

spain: "spain won't recognise kosovo".
albanians: "spain is considering recognising kosovo".

icj judge: "icj ruling on kosovo will be neutral".
albanians: "icj ruling will be in favour of kosovo".

opinion polls: "albanians are the most optimistic people in the world".
probably, and you can see why.

"Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić thanked Nigeria,"

Only another 120+ trips mr Vuk, ;)

O no! What does this mean for Kosovo? Will Kosovo become part of Serbia again? Will Nigeria invade Kosovo and give it back to Serbia?
Can someone explain this catastrophic move on the part of Nigeria?
Ahhh will we ever get recoginzed by third world underdeveloped dictatorships?

"... Nigeria will never recognize Kosovo independence, Maduekwe said"

That would be a "tragedy" for Kosova and its residents for not being able to travel in that totally corrupt country with very dodgy individuals.
Whoever pays them more will get them on their side. Serbia is doing well so far...in Africa with love)))

He promised that Nigeria would open an embassy in Belgrade soon.


Is this some type of joke? Some on this site claim that if you don't have an embassy you are not recognized by the said country. And, I said many time that very few countries can aford to have an embassy in every country. The bottom line is I was right.

Second: Since when Serbia and Nigeria werethe founding of NAM?
That was founded by Tito and Naser of Egypt.

All I can say is: Poore Jeremic, and god help Serbian people for beleiving in his fairy tail.

"He promised that Nigeria would open an embassy in Belgrade soon. "

How many Nigerian people know where Serbia is. I don't think nobody from Nigeria will visit Serbia. Who cares about Nigeria, there is more Nigerian people working in Kosovo than people that have visited Serbia..

Wow should we get worried now then ? Is Nigeria wrelly that important when we got Germany,France,Sweden,Italy on our side ? Not to mention the worldleader US.

Jeremic is a big fat joke. I wonder how the serbian people can handle this joker.

Obviously this shows a fundamental lack of understanding from the Nigerian side concerning the declaration of independence by Kosova. To even compare Biafra with Kosova is frankly rude and offensive to Albanians and to suggest that Serbia negotiates with its 'brothers' in Kosova is beyond comprehension. What a joke!
Please read "Nigeria frowns at Kosovo's declaration of independence" African Press Agency

This Serbian Minister really cracks me up. Of course, we should be grateful to Serbia for its peaceful and diplomatic struggle to defend international peace and stability. For sure, world peace would be shaken up without Serbia, as if Serbia is the center of universe and any changes should get Serbia’s approval.
Kosovo is a done deal. The reality on the ground is a undeniable factor that goes against Serbia’s desire to keep Kosovo within its past internationally-recognized borders.
More time goes by more countries will recognize Kosovo as an independent state, fully represented in the United Nations, E.U. and other international organizations.
I am not sure how this Nigerian Minister can be a high official of Nigeria as he participated in splitting Nigeria when he participated as a youth in the war for the succession of Biafra. I hope he has misspoken on this matter. If that’s the case he should not be the Nigerian Foreign Minister, the country he fought against.
I wish Nigerian Foreign Minister good luck in his 2011 Belgrade summit to mark the 50th anniversary of the Non-aligned Movement. By 2011 a dozen of African states/nations would have recognized Kosovo’s independence, Nigeria included. I hope by then, Nigerian Minister would have resigned and joined the Biafra liberation forces. It will be a great example of Nigerian Minister’s commitment to set Biafra free from Nigeria.

No need to worry if Nigeria is going to recognize Kosovo independence or not. ICJ will rule on the independence in less than a month from now, and after that every country in the world will have to recognize Kosovo, because it will joing UN.

i think he hasnt got any thing better to do. we all know there is no way going back

It is kind of funny to see all these Albanian commentators stating that Nigeria doesn't matter, blah blah blah. The truth is that Vuk has again has gotten under their skin. If it really did not matter they would not be posting comments about it:)
(Jason, 22 November 2009 15:22)

Well Vuk we albanians are happy that he is Serbias foreign minister because he does a bad job. And we are not worried about Nigeria at all and we just want you Serbs to know that. It is you Serbs who should worry because if you rely on Nigeria then you are in a bad spot.

Kosovo is independent and will stay so forever. Not even Russia cant do nothing about it.

Listen everyone no one can really believe that Nigeria will recognize Kosovo independence. And Kosovo doesnt need recognition from Nigeria at this point. Havent people noticed that when leaders,ministers and delegations go to countries the country they are visiting always acts like they back them up and that same case with Vuk in Nigeria you sell if a Kosovar or Albanian delegation or any world delegation went to Nigeria to ask for Kosovo recognition this is what they would say " We will be reviewing the situation and put foward a recognition want" or similair bnecause they arent gonna make them self look bad when they r being visited so no one can really say countries wont and will recognize because no ones for sure what they r hiding or planning

That is why it is my great pleasure to greet my friend and brother Vuk Jeremić,” Maduekwe said.

brother Vuk Jeremić???

Did Jeremic again played the I-am-Muslim game towards Muslim countries and we-are-christians towards christian contries???

Jeremic's hypocracy never fails to amaze me?

I am going to use the logic from the average Serb comment when a country recognises Kosovo to comment on this particular article.

Another Russian Puppet State!

If Vuk is Doing a bad job on lobbying against then my dear Kosovar compatriots can you name me one just one single unique recognition because our foreign delegation influence.
(frukyy, 22 November 2009 18:00)

It is a fact that we have a very bad diplomatic team in Kosovo, however we are lucky to have a just case. The independence of Kosovo was inevitable and it has brought peace and prosperity to the region. This is the main reason why 63 powerful UN members have recognized us.

Antekosova
"I don't think nobody from Nigeria will visit Serbia." If you'd like to write in my native language, please don't use double negatives. It should be "I don't think anybody..."
Besides, poor use of my language, your thinking is quite egocentric, as it's filled with schemas of analogy, to use Piaget's terms. How do you know what people in Nigeria know? You don't.

'that every country in the world will have to recognize Kosovo, because it will join UN.'

Umm, not exactly - there are other countries that belong to the UN (Israel, for example) that some other countries do not recognize. Serbia and Cyprus can refuse to recognize Kosovo forever, but that won't prevent Kosovo from joining the UN.

The guy spends too much in vane; it could have been spent in more responsible manner. The lobbying he’s been doing for a very long time is nothing but a detriment to the taxpayers.

what a shame, an Igbo man happy to have lost the Biafran war, because you given common ministerial post. I am so ashame of you Maduekwe

"Belgrade is impressed by the fact that Nigeria has become a pillar of stability, not only in Africa, but the entire world, and the fact that this should be confirmed in international institutions as well."-Nigeria a pillar of stability?!!! The CIA World Factbook says; "Nigeria continues to experience longstanding ethnic and religious tensions."

Anyways, I couldn't leave behind the article with the title jeremic not in Africa about Kosovo. But what is this about then?

The argument that the non-alignment made the world a better place is a little fuzzy and hard to believe. The world was not safe, the Cold War was just that because of AMD-assured mutual destruction by nuclear weapons.

Anyways, God bless, but words and deeds are not reflecting parallel on each other.

It is kind of funny to see all these Albanian commentators stating that Nigeria doesn't matter, blah blah blah. The truth is that Vuk has again has gotten under their skin. If it really did not matter they would not be posting comments about it:)

Yes my dear Albanian citizens, Nigeria won't change a thing when it comes to the reality on the ground. However, if Nigeria recognised Kosovo tomorrow it would suddenly be one of the greatest countries in the free democratic world according to the very same ethnic Albanians here.

More significantly though, Nigeria shares the same opinion as most of the African continent, South America, Asia and the Middle East. The overwhelming majority of states in those regions, equating to a significant majority in the world, share Nigeria's opinion but even that isn't going to change the reality on the ground.

The only thing that will change reality and start the process towards peace and prosperity is when our ethnic Albanian citizens realise the occupiers (the US and most of EU) cannot deliver anything more than what is being offered.

More than autonomy, less than independence is self fulfilling and let me be clear, I doubt any Serbian here wants our ethnic Albanians under our control. I thank God the EU and US have the great "privilege" of looking after you lot. Serbia does not want that so we offer and provide self-rule but the facts remain, Kosovo is legally a province of Serbia and that will never change.

Wisen up, face reality and start talking my fellow citizens. You can rule yourselves and even those in Presevo but you will never become independent.

I can only thank Nigeria and the overwhelming majority of the world for standing firm and protecting what is right!

Mauduekwe should simply say that Biafra would have become a high profile regional power that non-consequential people like him could not have become ministers in the best republic the world never had. Nigeria is for now a sore.

All I can say is: Poore Jeremic, and god help Serbian people for beleiving in his fairy tail.
(Kosova-USA, 22 November 2009 16:21)

Since when does Vuk have a tail?

dozens of African nations that fought off colonial oppressors (namely the very countries that support Kosovo: the Brits, the French, the Dutch, and so on) can't manage to find a common cause with the Kosovo Albanians UDI. That should tell you something.
(midwest_bo, 23 November 2009 18:37)
Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...

Do you have a clue about the inter-ethnic complexity of Nigeria???

If Vuk is Doing a bad job on lobbying against then my dear Kosovar compatriots can you name me one just one single unique recognition because our foreign delegation influence. C’mon if you don’t like the game don’t hate the player. Vuk is doing a great job for Serbia giving the fact that he is going against the will of the most influential countries in the world. Just stop and compare Skender Hyseni with Vuk Jeremic, you get the picture – then compare their resumes – it is even worst. If we want to progress we need to do a better job and while we are at it, Hyseni should take some lessons from Jeremic..

reading "Demi´s" comment made me smile.

not only that he(or she? - I don´t know what Demi stands for, sorry ) believes that this cripple puppet-entity is "independent", he even dreams of being it " for ever"...

:)

many "friends" ( Mossadegh, the Shah Reza Pahlevi, Saddam Hussein, Noriega and several others...) of the US made that mistake before, and you won´t be the last, I guess.

"This is the main reason why 63 powerful UN members have recognized us."

Does one of thoes 63 include the Dominican Republic?... what a funny comment that made me laugh really hard. Kosovo will never be part of the UN, China Russia India Israel along with other 130 UN power countries all agree Kosovo is Serbia.

@JASON
"Since when Vuk has a tail?"
Vuk had it always, but Vuk doesn't!

In reality, I think Vuk went there to pay the ransom for this guy:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=11&dd=22&nav_id=63225

How convenient that he escaped in the same time Vuk was there.
These statements about Kosovo are just a cover-up.

As if the people of Palau know where Kosovo is. All these albos say there is no going back. There is no going forward either, chum. And who says you get to keep all of the province. Face it, you had your chance and you blew it in 2004 when you tried to ethnic cleanse the Serbs out. Now, you pay for that.

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.

i think he hasnt got any thing better to do. we all know there is no way going back
(ben kosova, 22 November 2009 22:11)

Speaking of people with nothing better to do, "Ben"...

Did Jeremic again played the I-am-Muslim game towards Muslim countries and we-are-christians towards christian contries???

Jeremic's hypocracy never fails to amaze me?
(PRN, 23 November 2009 10:04)

Whatever he is doing seems to be working well.
Only 63 recognitions in all this time. No more on the horizon either.

BTW, why do you Albanians care so much if Vuk is wasting his time. It takes nothing away from you now, or does it?

Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...
(ben, 23 November 2009 20:34)

and a very poor one, ben, as always :)

i am not surprised by the way things are developing at all. i fully expected this would be a stand-off between former colonies and their former masters. it is an aspect of this conflict that gets neglected by too many people.

At the moment Kosovo is a car with no engine. You can sit in it, turn the wheel, even make the noise of an engine, pretend you are changing gear, but its going nowhere.

Still lets polish it and make it look shiney and new. At least it can look like its going somewhere. After all you cant tell it hasn't got an engine from the outside.

Ah, if you can't get sympathy for your "self-determination" cause out of Africans, where can you get sympathy? The point is that dozens of African nations that fought off colonial oppressors (namely the very countries that support Kosovo: the Brits, the French, the Dutch, and so on) can't manage to find a common cause with the Kosovo Albanians UDI. That should tell you something.

Ah ben, once again you have shown that you simply haven't a clue of the geo-political complexities of the post colonial African continent. To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries.

Ian, another fine gem from you. Now tell me this, how does this statement from Nigeria make it a Russian puppet. Are Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets too?
(Niall O'Doherty, 24 November 2009 13:15)

hahaha Niall, when I read your fist frase I thought: OK I will learn something new today. But then you continua with "To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries."

Which COMPLETELY confirms my post: the African countries deal with their interethnic diputes JUST AS SERBIA with Kosova.

And then since love is blindness you go with Ian asking him if "Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets"

Well what about are Japan, Germany, France, Australia etc US puppets???

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.
(Amer, 24 November 2009 17:17)

No its not. Madrid today said that it would only recognise Pristina's UDD if Serbia did."

The article referred to three possibilities: recognition by Serbia, recognition by the UN, and taking into consideration "the decision by the International Court of Justice on the legality of Kosovo's independence declaration." Sounds like Spain's considering the idea to me.


"Oh by the way, any chance if you know the genius who posted in a previous thread that Spain was still under the grip of Franco & his Generals.
(Niall O'Doherty, 24 November 2009 20:50) "

That's what seeing "international law = 1244!" too many times can do to a person.

Maybe because many of them turned being colonialist themselves??? Juts a guess...
(ben, 23 November 2009 20:34)

Ah ben, once again you have shown that you simply haven't a clue of the geo-political complexities of the post colonial African continent. To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries.

You see almost all African states were cobbled together by the colonial powers for their own benefit. The natives were not consulted of course and many tribes who were adversarties with each other found themselves sharing the one entity. Imperial powers like Belgium and the Brits also adopted a divide and rule strategy which set one tribe off against another. Because of this boneheaded policy enacted in particular by the Brits, post colonial Africa has been left in a shambolic and unstable state. The Congolese and Biafran wars were a legacy of colonial misrule and that is why many African states are extremely nervous of the Pandora's Box that the K-Albanians are threathening to unleash on the globe. That was the purpose of the Helsinki Agreement in 1976, to not only uphold the territorial integrity of the sovereign states but also to promote stability. The Agreement provided a legal mechanism for states to uphold the law and to prevent an ethnic minority(ies) within a state's jurisdiction from seceeding, thereby provoking conflict and instability. It has nothing to do ben with countries acting all colonial, its about self preservation and a state acting within its legal remit. What's so hard to understand that?

Another point why many developing and Non Aligned states (especially Arab and Muslim) states want nothing to do with Pristina is the paralles with Palestine. Last week the EU refused to endorse Palestine from going ahead with its UDI. This smacks of blatant hypocrisy and double standards. If the West can endorse Pristina's UDI, then why not Palestine. This is what irks many states. Clearly an indpedendent Palestine does not suit Western Imperial interests whereas Kosovo's does. See the double standards at play?

Ian, another fine gem from you. Now tell me this, how does this statement from Nigeria make it a Russian puppet. Are Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets too?

"Nigeria will not recognize Kosovo" - but Spain is considering it.
(Amer, 24 November 2009 17:17)

No its not. Madrid today said that it would only recognise Pristina's UDD if Serbia did.

Oh by the way, any chance if you know the genius who posted in a previous thread that Spain was still under the grip of Franco & his Generals.

hahaha Niall, when I read your fist frase I thought: OK I will learn something new today. But then you continua with "To understand why countries like South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, DR Congo, Cote Ivoire, Sudan, Libya, Algeria and Egypt will not recognise Pristina's UDD is because of the knock effects that the K-Albanian unilaterial action will have on their own countries."

Which COMPLETELY confirms my post: the African countries deal with their interethnic diputes JUST AS SERBIA with Kosova.

And then since love is blindness you go with Ian asking him if "Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Indonesia and Mexico Russian puppets"

Well what about are Japan, Germany, France, Australia etc US puppets???
(ben, 24 November 2009 16:31)

Did you bother your backside reading fully my post or are you just being argumentative for the sake of being. You damn right that any state which has restive ethnic minorities, many of them like DR Congo and Nigeria will never recognise Congo. I suggest you pick up a book and read about the history of Africa, the colonial period and the post colonial problems that many governments have faced in trying to their respective states together. I suggest 'To Katanga and back' by Conor Cruise O'Brien which gives a very deep insight on the Congolese Civil war and the role of the West in fermenting violence and secession in the Congo. See the assassination of President Patrice Lumumba and UN Sec Gen. Dag Hammerskjold to know about Western hypocrisy when it comes to Africa.

Now back to our solar toupe wearing Brit friend of ours Ian. Now Ian implied that Nigeria or any other state was a Russian puppet if it refused to follow US dictat in the Balkans. You and I know that statement is not worth commenting on. In reality any states know when they smell a rat and Kosovo's UDD is a big one.

God bless Nigeria for not recognizing Kosovo.

spain: "spain won't recognise kosovo".
albanians: "spain is considering recognising kosovo".

icj judge: "icj ruling on kosovo will be neutral".
albanians: "icj ruling will be in favour of kosovo".

opinion polls: "albanians are the most optimistic people in the world".
probably, and you can see why.

history of western treachery in africa would help people understand why african countries refuse to recognise kosovo and why they were not happy about bombing of serbia 10 years ago either. they know that talk is cheap and don't buy the "humanitarian" pretext for military interventions.