"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)
Your pure 100% Albanian region of Dardania - before Serbs coming was... pure latin region, with latin speaking peoples mixed with barbarian germanic tribes who invaded this region during Imperium Romanum collapse ;)
And before Romans (Romans conquested region in 6 AD) - was mixed thraco-illyrian region with some Celts (310 BC - Celts conquered region).
So - my friend - in the past Kosovo was NEVER albanian region. Maybe in Your albanian books - You have more similar jokes - but surprisingly - rest of European scientists have very different point of view.
A visit that stressed upon Serbia attitude towards the kosovo elections.
Serbia has realised that kosovo is lost. those that gave kosovo to serbia, those took it away, because serbia didnt succeed in managing it. they failed.
Now its kosovo albanians turn to administer themselves and other minorities.
Let them have their chance.
Modestly i have to say that better leave the majority govern themselves rather than a minority to govern all.
all history about Kosovo is past the reality is what is happening now.
Kosovo had their local elections and a small portion of Serbs took part in them. the northern Serbs didn't take part at all.
i suppose as the time passes by more Serbs will understand that the dream of a Serbian Kosovo has faded away long time ago. They will have to choose either to integrate in a new Albanian state or migrate Serbia or elsewhere.
There would no war in Kosovo and the status of Kosovo rather than independent is not likely to change in the future.
the real challenge is how will EU cope with Serbian nationalism very deep rooted in higher ranks of Serbian politics
"Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))"
And in banana republics, a corrupt political scene, usually headed by the president with family and friends, is taking the state money for themselves instead of spending it for public projects. Whereas in Kosovo.... oops :)
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))
i find it even more interesting that the pot is calling the kettle black kosovari...
serbia is taking loans, money to be paid back. serbia and croatia and bosnia and slovenia had spent 40+ years giving kosovo gifts, and now kosovo is given gifts from its western allies (masters)... serbia takes money with the intent to pay it back. kosovo takes money with no further intent...
who is the big boy really?
him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
(Kosova-USA, 18 November 2009 16:49)
And why should he loose his time in meeting the pristina thugs, they anyway have the 1244 tag on their back!!
You see, one can intreprete it in so many different ways....
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Please explain what is happening in Kosovo to make you say that they are doing well.
Also, borrowing money is normal for all countries. They borrow, they pay back, but Kosovo is looking for donations.
KOSOVARi, you missed the point.
Serbia is taking loans, which means those money are going to be returned to a loaner, what is quite different from donor, who does not expect the money back.
New donor's conference?
What'up?
The old donors do not give money anymore?
(passing by, 18 November 2009 18:53)
They are too busy giving money to the basket case Serbia. Just today EU gave another 200mn EUR to Serbia. Go to top left of this page, click "All News", you will find it.
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
It's about time to meet with the rightful owners of Kosova! FYROM also can agree to give Albanians 20% of the territory and create USA-United States of Albania.
The West has a problem with Greater Serbia, and a united Albania and Croatia can serve as a check. I like what I see...
"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)"
Thank you for confirming your real thoughts and feelings once again. And the EU and UN keep sleeping. "Kosova": one of the biggest historical jokes, scams, and failures ever.
Beni,
it was the serbs that defened against the invading turks. it is the serbian churches and other buildings that are littered across the countryside. dardanian, or illyria (at one point some needs to make up their mind what history they choose to use) certainly predated the migrations of peoples into the balkans, but one cannot ignore the nearly 1400 years of serbian presence in the balkans, just as one cannot argue the historical presences of the dardanians, or illyirans (who would now be the macedonians and/or albanians).
once cannot also ignore the plethora of modern buildings that are spread all over Kosovo, and where the funding came for many of these buildings. Many of the larger constructions projects that existed in Kosovo since the Turks were removed from the region were financed by Serbian or Croatian efforts. Many of the structures build prior to this period were financed by the Turk or Serbians. It is hard to listen to someone claim that they have always and been the stewards of the land, while there has been 1400 or so years where they have not participated or added to the maintenance of this land. Continual claims of historical reference are nonvalid if the reference dates back as far as you seem to have to go. remember, the dardanians, or illyrians were not the first people on the planet. they were not the first peoples in Europe. they were predated by someone else. this type of endless historical referencing until finding a satisfactory one is mindbogglingly inconsistent...
maybe after greece and before rome took over illyria took care of themselves. since then it has been under the care of serbian, then turk, then jugoslavian now kosovar/albianian/dardanian.illyiran care. in the past 3000 years much of that time was spent taking the handouts of others...
again, no one is arguing who was there first. yes, the slavs migrated. however the historical linagage of the modern albanian peoples do not have soul claim and ownership, based upon current geopolicitcs, and any form of historical reference. Yes at one point they did, but at one point this was all part of Mongolia, at one point it was all rome, or greece...
selective history, and revistionist history is the tool of the one in the wrong, not the one who knows the truth.
""Berisha and Zannier talked about the importance of organizing a new donors’ conference for Kosovo, but also about the unconstructive position of Belgrade toward Kosovo," said a statement from the cabinet of the Kosovo Albanian prime minister"
Unconstructive role of Belgrade? What about the unconstructive role of Albania and US? They recognize illegal Kosovo independence!
Breaching international law, is that constructive?
This Kosovo soaps becomes sadder and sadder each day...
So much for so called SRSG Zanier.No one will meet with him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
i) 1998 the US forces itself into Kosovo with 2000 personnel who place target markers for NATO and are led by a spy
ii) 1999 they bomb Serbia mercilessly for almost 80 days, so as to allow the Rambouillet accord through and allow NATO in.
iii) 1999 they seize KiM under UN SC 1244.
iv) For 10 years they make a mess and allow for the ruin, plunder and murder of Serb and non-Albanian citizens under their noses.
v) 208 - They allow the Pristina self-proclaimed government to proclaim illegal independence against all norms and all international conventions and force/coerce nations into recognizing.
vi) Then they meet in Albania and say Belgrade is unconstructive?
Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova.Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania.There is no such thing Kosovar Nation.This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova.Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania.There is no such thing Kosovar Nation.This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
""Berisha and Zannier talked about the importance of organizing a new donors’ conference for Kosovo, but also about the unconstructive position of Belgrade toward Kosovo," said a statement from the cabinet of the Kosovo Albanian prime minister"
Unconstructive role of Belgrade? What about the unconstructive role of Albania and US? They recognize illegal Kosovo independence!
Breaching international law, is that constructive?
This Kosovo soaps becomes sadder and sadder each day...
So much for so called SRSG Zanier.No one will meet with him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
i) 1998 the US forces itself into Kosovo with 2000 personnel who place target markers for NATO and are led by a spy
ii) 1999 they bomb Serbia mercilessly for almost 80 days, so as to allow the Rambouillet accord through and allow NATO in.
iii) 1999 they seize KiM under UN SC 1244.
iv) For 10 years they make a mess and allow for the ruin, plunder and murder of Serb and non-Albanian citizens under their noses.
v) 208 - They allow the Pristina self-proclaimed government to proclaim illegal independence against all norms and all international conventions and force/coerce nations into recognizing.
vi) Then they meet in Albania and say Belgrade is unconstructive?
"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)"
Thank you for confirming your real thoughts and feelings once again. And the EU and UN keep sleeping. "Kosova": one of the biggest historical jokes, scams, and failures ever.
Beni,
it was the serbs that defened against the invading turks. it is the serbian churches and other buildings that are littered across the countryside. dardanian, or illyria (at one point some needs to make up their mind what history they choose to use) certainly predated the migrations of peoples into the balkans, but one cannot ignore the nearly 1400 years of serbian presence in the balkans, just as one cannot argue the historical presences of the dardanians, or illyirans (who would now be the macedonians and/or albanians).
once cannot also ignore the plethora of modern buildings that are spread all over Kosovo, and where the funding came for many of these buildings. Many of the larger constructions projects that existed in Kosovo since the Turks were removed from the region were financed by Serbian or Croatian efforts. Many of the structures build prior to this period were financed by the Turk or Serbians. It is hard to listen to someone claim that they have always and been the stewards of the land, while there has been 1400 or so years where they have not participated or added to the maintenance of this land. Continual claims of historical reference are nonvalid if the reference dates back as far as you seem to have to go. remember, the dardanians, or illyrians were not the first people on the planet. they were not the first peoples in Europe. they were predated by someone else. this type of endless historical referencing until finding a satisfactory one is mindbogglingly inconsistent...
maybe after greece and before rome took over illyria took care of themselves. since then it has been under the care of serbian, then turk, then jugoslavian now kosovar/albianian/dardanian.illyiran care. in the past 3000 years much of that time was spent taking the handouts of others...
again, no one is arguing who was there first. yes, the slavs migrated. however the historical linagage of the modern albanian peoples do not have soul claim and ownership, based upon current geopolicitcs, and any form of historical reference. Yes at one point they did, but at one point this was all part of Mongolia, at one point it was all rome, or greece...
selective history, and revistionist history is the tool of the one in the wrong, not the one who knows the truth.
New donor's conference?
What'up?
The old donors do not give money anymore?
(passing by, 18 November 2009 18:53)
They are too busy giving money to the basket case Serbia. Just today EU gave another 200mn EUR to Serbia. Go to top left of this page, click "All News", you will find it.
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))
It's about time to meet with the rightful owners of Kosova! FYROM also can agree to give Albanians 20% of the territory and create USA-United States of Albania.
The West has a problem with Greater Serbia, and a united Albania and Croatia can serve as a check. I like what I see...
KOSOVARi, you missed the point.
Serbia is taking loans, which means those money are going to be returned to a loaner, what is quite different from donor, who does not expect the money back.
him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
(Kosova-USA, 18 November 2009 16:49)
And why should he loose his time in meeting the pristina thugs, they anyway have the 1244 tag on their back!!
You see, one can intreprete it in so many different ways....
i find it even more interesting that the pot is calling the kettle black kosovari...
serbia is taking loans, money to be paid back. serbia and croatia and bosnia and slovenia had spent 40+ years giving kosovo gifts, and now kosovo is given gifts from its western allies (masters)... serbia takes money with the intent to pay it back. kosovo takes money with no further intent...
who is the big boy really?
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Please explain what is happening in Kosovo to make you say that they are doing well.
Also, borrowing money is normal for all countries. They borrow, they pay back, but Kosovo is looking for donations.
A visit that stressed upon Serbia attitude towards the kosovo elections.
Serbia has realised that kosovo is lost. those that gave kosovo to serbia, those took it away, because serbia didnt succeed in managing it. they failed.
Now its kosovo albanians turn to administer themselves and other minorities.
Let them have their chance.
Modestly i have to say that better leave the majority govern themselves rather than a minority to govern all.
all history about Kosovo is past the reality is what is happening now.
Kosovo had their local elections and a small portion of Serbs took part in them. the northern Serbs didn't take part at all.
i suppose as the time passes by more Serbs will understand that the dream of a Serbian Kosovo has faded away long time ago. They will have to choose either to integrate in a new Albanian state or migrate Serbia or elsewhere.
There would no war in Kosovo and the status of Kosovo rather than independent is not likely to change in the future.
the real challenge is how will EU cope with Serbian nationalism very deep rooted in higher ranks of Serbian politics
"Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))"
And in banana republics, a corrupt political scene, usually headed by the president with family and friends, is taking the state money for themselves instead of spending it for public projects. Whereas in Kosovo.... oops :)
"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)
Your pure 100% Albanian region of Dardania - before Serbs coming was... pure latin region, with latin speaking peoples mixed with barbarian germanic tribes who invaded this region during Imperium Romanum collapse ;)
And before Romans (Romans conquested region in 6 AD) - was mixed thraco-illyrian region with some Celts (310 BC - Celts conquered region).
So - my friend - in the past Kosovo was NEVER albanian region. Maybe in Your albanian books - You have more similar jokes - but surprisingly - rest of European scientists have very different point of view.
i) 1998 the US forces itself into Kosovo with 2000 personnel who place target markers for NATO and are led by a spy
ii) 1999 they bomb Serbia mercilessly for almost 80 days, so as to allow the Rambouillet accord through and allow NATO in.
iii) 1999 they seize KiM under UN SC 1244.
iv) For 10 years they make a mess and allow for the ruin, plunder and murder of Serb and non-Albanian citizens under their noses.
v) 208 - They allow the Pristina self-proclaimed government to proclaim illegal independence against all norms and all international conventions and force/coerce nations into recognizing.
vi) Then they meet in Albania and say Belgrade is unconstructive?
""Berisha and Zannier talked about the importance of organizing a new donors’ conference for Kosovo, but also about the unconstructive position of Belgrade toward Kosovo," said a statement from the cabinet of the Kosovo Albanian prime minister"
Unconstructive role of Belgrade? What about the unconstructive role of Albania and US? They recognize illegal Kosovo independence!
Breaching international law, is that constructive?
This Kosovo soaps becomes sadder and sadder each day...
It's about time to meet with the rightful owners of Kosova! FYROM also can agree to give Albanians 20% of the territory and create USA-United States of Albania.
The West has a problem with Greater Serbia, and a united Albania and Croatia can serve as a check. I like what I see...
Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova.Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania.There is no such thing Kosovar Nation.This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
New donor's conference?
What'up?
The old donors do not give money anymore?
(passing by, 18 November 2009 18:53)
They are too busy giving money to the basket case Serbia. Just today EU gave another 200mn EUR to Serbia. Go to top left of this page, click "All News", you will find it.
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
So much for so called SRSG Zanier.No one will meet with him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)"
Thank you for confirming your real thoughts and feelings once again. And the EU and UN keep sleeping. "Kosova": one of the biggest historical jokes, scams, and failures ever.
A visit that stressed upon Serbia attitude towards the kosovo elections.
Serbia has realised that kosovo is lost. those that gave kosovo to serbia, those took it away, because serbia didnt succeed in managing it. they failed.
Now its kosovo albanians turn to administer themselves and other minorities.
Let them have their chance.
Modestly i have to say that better leave the majority govern themselves rather than a minority to govern all.
all history about Kosovo is past the reality is what is happening now.
Kosovo had their local elections and a small portion of Serbs took part in them. the northern Serbs didn't take part at all.
i suppose as the time passes by more Serbs will understand that the dream of a Serbian Kosovo has faded away long time ago. They will have to choose either to integrate in a new Albanian state or migrate Serbia or elsewhere.
There would no war in Kosovo and the status of Kosovo rather than independent is not likely to change in the future.
the real challenge is how will EU cope with Serbian nationalism very deep rooted in higher ranks of Serbian politics
Beni,
it was the serbs that defened against the invading turks. it is the serbian churches and other buildings that are littered across the countryside. dardanian, or illyria (at one point some needs to make up their mind what history they choose to use) certainly predated the migrations of peoples into the balkans, but one cannot ignore the nearly 1400 years of serbian presence in the balkans, just as one cannot argue the historical presences of the dardanians, or illyirans (who would now be the macedonians and/or albanians).
once cannot also ignore the plethora of modern buildings that are spread all over Kosovo, and where the funding came for many of these buildings. Many of the larger constructions projects that existed in Kosovo since the Turks were removed from the region were financed by Serbian or Croatian efforts. Many of the structures build prior to this period were financed by the Turk or Serbians. It is hard to listen to someone claim that they have always and been the stewards of the land, while there has been 1400 or so years where they have not participated or added to the maintenance of this land. Continual claims of historical reference are nonvalid if the reference dates back as far as you seem to have to go. remember, the dardanians, or illyrians were not the first people on the planet. they were not the first peoples in Europe. they were predated by someone else. this type of endless historical referencing until finding a satisfactory one is mindbogglingly inconsistent...
maybe after greece and before rome took over illyria took care of themselves. since then it has been under the care of serbian, then turk, then jugoslavian now kosovar/albianian/dardanian.illyiran care. in the past 3000 years much of that time was spent taking the handouts of others...
again, no one is arguing who was there first. yes, the slavs migrated. however the historical linagage of the modern albanian peoples do not have soul claim and ownership, based upon current geopolicitcs, and any form of historical reference. Yes at one point they did, but at one point this was all part of Mongolia, at one point it was all rome, or greece...
selective history, and revistionist history is the tool of the one in the wrong, not the one who knows the truth.
"Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))"
And in banana republics, a corrupt political scene, usually headed by the president with family and friends, is taking the state money for themselves instead of spending it for public projects. Whereas in Kosovo.... oops :)
him from Kosova govermant so he goes and meets with officials from other countries. I guess he feels lonely.
(Kosova-USA, 18 November 2009 16:49)
And why should he loose his time in meeting the pristina thugs, they anyway have the 1244 tag on their back!!
You see, one can intreprete it in so many different ways....
i find it even more interesting that the pot is calling the kettle black kosovari...
serbia is taking loans, money to be paid back. serbia and croatia and bosnia and slovenia had spent 40+ years giving kosovo gifts, and now kosovo is given gifts from its western allies (masters)... serbia takes money with the intent to pay it back. kosovo takes money with no further intent...
who is the big boy really?
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Please explain what is happening in Kosovo to make you say that they are doing well.
Also, borrowing money is normal for all countries. They borrow, they pay back, but Kosovo is looking for donations.
KOSOVARi, you missed the point.
Serbia is taking loans, which means those money are going to be returned to a loaner, what is quite different from donor, who does not expect the money back.
Interesting how my "banana republic" (Kosovo) as you call it is doing so well under these economic crises whereas your glorious Serbia has borrowed this year into the BILLIONS of EUR to cover the budge deficit.
(KOSOVARi, 18 November 2009 21:00)
Well, banana republics usually do not declare what they get and how they get it, otherwise they would not be called a banana republic :))
"Zannieri went to the real owners of Kosova. Sooner or later Kosova will be Albania. There is no such thing Kosovar Nation. This people are Albanian and Kosova before the Turks came to the region was called DARDANIA ,Pure Albanian region with 0% minority Serbs.
(Beni, 18 November 2009 16:57)
Your pure 100% Albanian region of Dardania - before Serbs coming was... pure latin region, with latin speaking peoples mixed with barbarian germanic tribes who invaded this region during Imperium Romanum collapse ;)
And before Romans (Romans conquested region in 6 AD) - was mixed thraco-illyrian region with some Celts (310 BC - Celts conquered region).
So - my friend - in the past Kosovo was NEVER albanian region. Maybe in Your albanian books - You have more similar jokes - but surprisingly - rest of European scientists have very different point of view.
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