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Friday, 06.11.2009.

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U.S. soldier kills 12 in rampage on Texas base

A U.S. Army officer opened fire on a large military base in Texas Thursday, killing at least 12 people and wounding more than 30.

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sj

pre 14 godina

The killing of 12 military personnel by an officer, who is well educated and obviously intelligent, has sent tremors to the very foundations of the US. If the conspiracy theory is right that it was organised to ‘toughen up the security laws, it is a mistake of monumental propositions – it is now starting to cause a major rift between people in the US.

This is a man who was born, bred and I guess educated in the land of the free and he then turned around committed this act. It would certainly shake my confidence in the soldier next to me in the ‘trenches’. The question now is how many others are there in the military?

“The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend Muslims" as late as 6 mont” – I believe this statement is right. Logically, it would be detrimental to admit to such an act because it would undermine the morale in the military. However, in the coming weeks we will see just how well the authorities handle this issue. A wrong move will create even more problems and the US has plenty now.

Amer

pre 14 godina

"But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or ...."

... or to some weird role-playing game. As for ethnic origins, the two previous major shootings were by a South Korean kid (at Virginia Tech) and a German-origin neo-Nazi type (at the Holocaust Museum). Yesterday it was a Jamaican (Orlando).

BTW, if you go searching on "cleric," guess what religion is going to pop up most frequently.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.
(Amer, 6 November 2009 19:45)

But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or .... well, some other hillbillies.

I did google on phrases like "crazy pravoslav" and "crazy buddhist" but the material was pretty thin to choose from. "Crazy pravoslav" was clearly a leader with zero hits. Tried "crazy muslim" - and got 54200 results. Go figure.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.
(pss, 6 November 2009 18:30)


Very much true , but also he will be subject to Texas state law since he killed a police officer. State of Texas will hand him the death penalty for the murder of police officer.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I heard somewhere he was a convert to Islam, not a born and raised Muslim. Religious converts are always the worst to look out for. Still, I'm uneasy with once again people equating this to larger acts of Islamic terror. We have numerous inbred redneck Christian groups in our country espousing all sorts of hatred, yet we don't castigate all of Christianity.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim. '

America is an equal-opportunity country: people of all religions and ethnic origins go crazy and shoot up innocent strangers here. It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.

stari

pre 14 godina

i wouldn't be surprised if this guy was actually ordered to do this... first they say he's dead, now he's in stable condition? something is not right... 4000+ people were killed on 9/11 so the USA could 'enhance security' - the recent un bombing in afghanistan and this will be the catalyst they need to 'improve security measures' on un/nato/us bases/installations... i wonder if bondsteel will be getting some upgrades...

pss

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.
(Patrik, 6 November 2009 14:26)
Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.

michael

pre 14 godina

Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim.

Sooner or later, the Judeo/Christian world will have to recognize the threat we face...ISLAM. It's not just Palestinian Statehood for example, but the Islamification of the entire European, Russian, and North American continents. It has started with Bosnia, now Kosovo, soon France and Germany will fall to the Half Moon and Star simply by the breeding policies of ISLAM.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" ...'

Why would the Army "never admit it"? It's simply not known yet whether the writer was the shooter or just someone with the same name. Be a little more patient - it's less than 24 hours since the guy started shooting.

Patrik

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Though this is tragic I must laugh again.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan is an military psychiatrist?
Well, it proves again that the shrinks are the biggest psychos themselves.

And he, as a military officer, was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan following the last news?
Well, I guess then he definitely majorly missed in his profession choice?
Or maybe he just supports bombing of Serbia and similar US "Muslims-friendly" actions?

It's all fishy.
US Military just does not want to admit, at this stage, that something just switched in his (extreme-Muslim radical)mind and he committed classical terrorist act.

Whatever you say

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.

Jason

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.
(Whatever you say, 6 November 2009 10:02)

I am against the war in Iraq but I don't go around committing acts of terrorism and jihad. Execute him, I say.

Hidden Truth

pre 14 godina

The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" as late as 6 months ago: "In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims. "

Jason

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.
(Whatever you say, 6 November 2009 10:02)

I am against the war in Iraq but I don't go around committing acts of terrorism and jihad. Execute him, I say.

michael

pre 14 godina

Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim.

Sooner or later, the Judeo/Christian world will have to recognize the threat we face...ISLAM. It's not just Palestinian Statehood for example, but the Islamification of the entire European, Russian, and North American continents. It has started with Bosnia, now Kosovo, soon France and Germany will fall to the Half Moon and Star simply by the breeding policies of ISLAM.

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Though this is tragic I must laugh again.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan is an military psychiatrist?
Well, it proves again that the shrinks are the biggest psychos themselves.

And he, as a military officer, was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan following the last news?
Well, I guess then he definitely majorly missed in his profession choice?
Or maybe he just supports bombing of Serbia and similar US "Muslims-friendly" actions?

It's all fishy.
US Military just does not want to admit, at this stage, that something just switched in his (extreme-Muslim radical)mind and he committed classical terrorist act.

Hidden Truth

pre 14 godina

The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" as late as 6 months ago: "In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims. "

Whatever you say

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.

Patrik

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I heard somewhere he was a convert to Islam, not a born and raised Muslim. Religious converts are always the worst to look out for. Still, I'm uneasy with once again people equating this to larger acts of Islamic terror. We have numerous inbred redneck Christian groups in our country espousing all sorts of hatred, yet we don't castigate all of Christianity.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.
(Amer, 6 November 2009 19:45)

But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or .... well, some other hillbillies.

I did google on phrases like "crazy pravoslav" and "crazy buddhist" but the material was pretty thin to choose from. "Crazy pravoslav" was clearly a leader with zero hits. Tried "crazy muslim" - and got 54200 results. Go figure.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" ...'

Why would the Army "never admit it"? It's simply not known yet whether the writer was the shooter or just someone with the same name. Be a little more patient - it's less than 24 hours since the guy started shooting.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.
(pss, 6 November 2009 18:30)


Very much true , but also he will be subject to Texas state law since he killed a police officer. State of Texas will hand him the death penalty for the murder of police officer.

stari

pre 14 godina

i wouldn't be surprised if this guy was actually ordered to do this... first they say he's dead, now he's in stable condition? something is not right... 4000+ people were killed on 9/11 so the USA could 'enhance security' - the recent un bombing in afghanistan and this will be the catalyst they need to 'improve security measures' on un/nato/us bases/installations... i wonder if bondsteel will be getting some upgrades...

pss

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.
(Patrik, 6 November 2009 14:26)
Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim. '

America is an equal-opportunity country: people of all religions and ethnic origins go crazy and shoot up innocent strangers here. It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.

Amer

pre 14 godina

"But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or ...."

... or to some weird role-playing game. As for ethnic origins, the two previous major shootings were by a South Korean kid (at Virginia Tech) and a German-origin neo-Nazi type (at the Holocaust Museum). Yesterday it was a Jamaican (Orlando).

BTW, if you go searching on "cleric," guess what religion is going to pop up most frequently.

sj

pre 14 godina

The killing of 12 military personnel by an officer, who is well educated and obviously intelligent, has sent tremors to the very foundations of the US. If the conspiracy theory is right that it was organised to ‘toughen up the security laws, it is a mistake of monumental propositions – it is now starting to cause a major rift between people in the US.

This is a man who was born, bred and I guess educated in the land of the free and he then turned around committed this act. It would certainly shake my confidence in the soldier next to me in the ‘trenches’. The question now is how many others are there in the military?

“The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend Muslims" as late as 6 mont” – I believe this statement is right. Logically, it would be detrimental to admit to such an act because it would undermine the morale in the military. However, in the coming weeks we will see just how well the authorities handle this issue. A wrong move will create even more problems and the US has plenty now.

Whatever you say

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" ...'

Why would the Army "never admit it"? It's simply not known yet whether the writer was the shooter or just someone with the same name. Be a little more patient - it's less than 24 hours since the guy started shooting.

michael

pre 14 godina

Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim.

Sooner or later, the Judeo/Christian world will have to recognize the threat we face...ISLAM. It's not just Palestinian Statehood for example, but the Islamification of the entire European, Russian, and North American continents. It has started with Bosnia, now Kosovo, soon France and Germany will fall to the Half Moon and Star simply by the breeding policies of ISLAM.

pss

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.
(Patrik, 6 November 2009 14:26)
Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I heard somewhere he was a convert to Islam, not a born and raised Muslim. Religious converts are always the worst to look out for. Still, I'm uneasy with once again people equating this to larger acts of Islamic terror. We have numerous inbred redneck Christian groups in our country espousing all sorts of hatred, yet we don't castigate all of Christianity.

Hidden Truth

pre 14 godina

The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend muslims" as late as 6 months ago: "In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims. "

Jason

pre 14 godina

This guy was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was due to be deployed and perhaps this is the cause of his action.
(Whatever you say, 6 November 2009 10:02)

I am against the war in Iraq but I don't go around committing acts of terrorism and jihad. Execute him, I say.

Patrik

pre 14 godina

Sadly, he was not simply killed during the siege. Now, the American taxpayers will be paying tons of money for years while the case drags on from one court to another.

stari

pre 14 godina

i wouldn't be surprised if this guy was actually ordered to do this... first they say he's dead, now he's in stable condition? something is not right... 4000+ people were killed on 9/11 so the USA could 'enhance security' - the recent un bombing in afghanistan and this will be the catalyst they need to 'improve security measures' on un/nato/us bases/installations... i wonder if bondsteel will be getting some upgrades...

Amer

pre 14 godina

'Before I even read a report, I knew it was a Muslim. '

America is an equal-opportunity country: people of all religions and ethnic origins go crazy and shoot up innocent strangers here. It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.

dean van der serbia

pre 14 godina

Though this is tragic I must laugh again.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan is an military psychiatrist?
Well, it proves again that the shrinks are the biggest psychos themselves.

And he, as a military officer, was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan following the last news?
Well, I guess then he definitely majorly missed in his profession choice?
Or maybe he just supports bombing of Serbia and similar US "Muslims-friendly" actions?

It's all fishy.
US Military just does not want to admit, at this stage, that something just switched in his (extreme-Muslim radical)mind and he committed classical terrorist act.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Normally this would be true, however this was committed by military on a military base, therefore is not subject to the civilian courts. Military courts are swift and rather inexpensive--all personnel are already being paid, no big lawyer fees--and is only subject to minimum appeals.
(pss, 6 November 2009 18:30)


Very much true , but also he will be subject to Texas state law since he killed a police officer. State of Texas will hand him the death penalty for the murder of police officer.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

It's not one of the country's more attractive attributes, I have to admit.
(Amer, 6 November 2009 19:45)

But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or .... well, some other hillbillies.

I did google on phrases like "crazy pravoslav" and "crazy buddhist" but the material was pretty thin to choose from. "Crazy pravoslav" was clearly a leader with zero hits. Tried "crazy muslim" - and got 54200 results. Go figure.

Amer

pre 14 godina

"But we also have to admit, news like "crazy cleric went more insane" does usually apply to either some Bible Belt hillbilly church or ...."

... or to some weird role-playing game. As for ethnic origins, the two previous major shootings were by a South Korean kid (at Virginia Tech) and a German-origin neo-Nazi type (at the Holocaust Museum). Yesterday it was a Jamaican (Orlando).

BTW, if you go searching on "cleric," guess what religion is going to pop up most frequently.

sj

pre 14 godina

The killing of 12 military personnel by an officer, who is well educated and obviously intelligent, has sent tremors to the very foundations of the US. If the conspiracy theory is right that it was organised to ‘toughen up the security laws, it is a mistake of monumental propositions – it is now starting to cause a major rift between people in the US.

This is a man who was born, bred and I guess educated in the land of the free and he then turned around committed this act. It would certainly shake my confidence in the soldier next to me in the ‘trenches’. The question now is how many others are there in the military?

“The US army will never admit it but Hassan even justified suicide bombers to "defend Muslims" as late as 6 mont” – I believe this statement is right. Logically, it would be detrimental to admit to such an act because it would undermine the morale in the military. However, in the coming weeks we will see just how well the authorities handle this issue. A wrong move will create even more problems and the US has plenty now.