"Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election." (Joe)
-- Well we have to take NJ as somewhat of a special case. I feel this had less to do with Obama than with what many here (myself included) saw as a miserable administration under Corzine, most importantly property taxes that local municipalities are raising to offset their own rampant spending. People are moving out of NJ simply because it's too expensive to live in. Not to mention the corruption that has become almost expected (and I expect Christie to do no less). You may recall a few months ago a series of NJ mayors and state legislators arrested by the FBI in a sting? NJ is a great place to live if you can afford it, and look the other way.
Now as far as Obama is concerned, I think whatever criticism of him exists also has to be taken with a grain of salt. Are we talking about honest criticism by respected conservatives, or are we talking about the Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity race bating? If it's the former, then yes, I have to agree with The Swiss who says that much of the problems are leftovers of the Bush administration that he, or anyone, would be left with. If it's the latter, than it's little more than angry white racism that holds no substance on its own. If there's any justified criticsm of this current administration, I'd say the blame lies more with Pelosi and Reid than with Obama.
I'm actually of the opinion that even though Obama was handed 'hell in a hand basket' when he took over the office, he has shown some of his true colors. He seems to have gone against his primary motivating points during the campaigning season. The time for change has not occurred. He's surrounded himself with the people that were part of the group that created the messes that he's inherited. He quickly backed off of the single payer model for health insurance. He's done everything to keep the wrong doing industries afloat all the while ignoring the people that he once claimed to be running for president for. He's said that the banks and auto industries were too big to fail, yet he's left California, a state which is ranked among the largest markets in the world, in limbo; apparently it isn't too big to fail.
To be fair, I understand that he's been severely hamstringed by what he inherited and the spinelessness of his party and his backers.
So far I haven't seen him as a bringer of change, but rather as an agent of continuation.
I still hope for the better future that he dreamed and talked about, but I know better than to hold my breath. I suppose it could be worse, but we all know that it could certainly be better
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
(The Swiss, 4 November 2009 20:27)
I fully agree with your comments.However, Obama has to be very careful not to go the Jimmy Carter route.
Next year will be very crusial for Obama and unless he comes with some convincing answers on the economic,social and foreign affairs issues facing US he could face a serious backlash from voters in mid-term elections.If the democrats loose those elections Obama will be in the history books.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
(Joe, 4 November 2009 18:08)
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
A few things about this election. First, politics in NJ is so corrupt and nepotistic that even Milo Djukanovic would be astounded at what goes on, both in the Democrat-controlled cities and the Republican-controlled suburbs. Electing Christie had less to do with voters changing preferences as they wanted the usual bums out of office. For me, both canidates were idiots and represented that 2004 South Park episode of electing between a Turd Sandwich and a Giant Douche for school mascot. I'm not sure whether we elected the Turd Sandwich or just voted the Giant Douche out of office. Whatever the Glen Becks and Sean Hannitys will say today about this being a referendum against the policies of that "Negro Muslim" in the White House who hates White people, I have no doubt NJ will continue to be one of the most corrupt states with some of the highest taxes in the country.
I spent too much time in the voting booth yesterday coming up with names of people I could write in, rather than vote for an opposition candidate I never heard about.
I believe I voted for Darth Vader for my town's mayor and Mickey Mouse for one of my Borough Freeholders.
A few things about this election. First, politics in NJ is so corrupt and nepotistic that even Milo Djukanovic would be astounded at what goes on, both in the Democrat-controlled cities and the Republican-controlled suburbs. Electing Christie had less to do with voters changing preferences as they wanted the usual bums out of office. For me, both canidates were idiots and represented that 2004 South Park episode of electing between a Turd Sandwich and a Giant Douche for school mascot. I'm not sure whether we elected the Turd Sandwich or just voted the Giant Douche out of office. Whatever the Glen Becks and Sean Hannitys will say today about this being a referendum against the policies of that "Negro Muslim" in the White House who hates White people, I have no doubt NJ will continue to be one of the most corrupt states with some of the highest taxes in the country.
I spent too much time in the voting booth yesterday coming up with names of people I could write in, rather than vote for an opposition candidate I never heard about.
I believe I voted for Darth Vader for my town's mayor and Mickey Mouse for one of my Borough Freeholders.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
(Joe, 4 November 2009 18:08)
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
(The Swiss, 4 November 2009 20:27)
I fully agree with your comments.However, Obama has to be very careful not to go the Jimmy Carter route.
Next year will be very crusial for Obama and unless he comes with some convincing answers on the economic,social and foreign affairs issues facing US he could face a serious backlash from voters in mid-term elections.If the democrats loose those elections Obama will be in the history books.
"Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election." (Joe)
-- Well we have to take NJ as somewhat of a special case. I feel this had less to do with Obama than with what many here (myself included) saw as a miserable administration under Corzine, most importantly property taxes that local municipalities are raising to offset their own rampant spending. People are moving out of NJ simply because it's too expensive to live in. Not to mention the corruption that has become almost expected (and I expect Christie to do no less). You may recall a few months ago a series of NJ mayors and state legislators arrested by the FBI in a sting? NJ is a great place to live if you can afford it, and look the other way.
Now as far as Obama is concerned, I think whatever criticism of him exists also has to be taken with a grain of salt. Are we talking about honest criticism by respected conservatives, or are we talking about the Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity race bating? If it's the former, then yes, I have to agree with The Swiss who says that much of the problems are leftovers of the Bush administration that he, or anyone, would be left with. If it's the latter, than it's little more than angry white racism that holds no substance on its own. If there's any justified criticsm of this current administration, I'd say the blame lies more with Pelosi and Reid than with Obama.
I'm actually of the opinion that even though Obama was handed 'hell in a hand basket' when he took over the office, he has shown some of his true colors. He seems to have gone against his primary motivating points during the campaigning season. The time for change has not occurred. He's surrounded himself with the people that were part of the group that created the messes that he's inherited. He quickly backed off of the single payer model for health insurance. He's done everything to keep the wrong doing industries afloat all the while ignoring the people that he once claimed to be running for president for. He's said that the banks and auto industries were too big to fail, yet he's left California, a state which is ranked among the largest markets in the world, in limbo; apparently it isn't too big to fail.
To be fair, I understand that he's been severely hamstringed by what he inherited and the spinelessness of his party and his backers.
So far I haven't seen him as a bringer of change, but rather as an agent of continuation.
I still hope for the better future that he dreamed and talked about, but I know better than to hold my breath. I suppose it could be worse, but we all know that it could certainly be better
Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
A few things about this election. First, politics in NJ is so corrupt and nepotistic that even Milo Djukanovic would be astounded at what goes on, both in the Democrat-controlled cities and the Republican-controlled suburbs. Electing Christie had less to do with voters changing preferences as they wanted the usual bums out of office. For me, both canidates were idiots and represented that 2004 South Park episode of electing between a Turd Sandwich and a Giant Douche for school mascot. I'm not sure whether we elected the Turd Sandwich or just voted the Giant Douche out of office. Whatever the Glen Becks and Sean Hannitys will say today about this being a referendum against the policies of that "Negro Muslim" in the White House who hates White people, I have no doubt NJ will continue to be one of the most corrupt states with some of the highest taxes in the country.
I spent too much time in the voting booth yesterday coming up with names of people I could write in, rather than vote for an opposition candidate I never heard about.
I believe I voted for Darth Vader for my town's mayor and Mickey Mouse for one of my Borough Freeholders.
This is only one year after the election. What will be the picture next year? Obama's biggest priority is to promote himself. Despite all his efforts his popularity is on the decline. How low will it be next year?
(Joe, 4 November 2009 18:08)
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
It isn't about "our Obama" "their Obama", what matters is what he inherited from the bush criminal and co., a world in limbo, an ever low US rating in the world, 12% US approval rate in EU a financial catastrophe, violation of international laws all around the globe, lies upto the end......, the list is just too long.
Am so glad that a more human president came to power, he has certaily the most difficult task a US President ever had, good luck to him and the hell for the one that left the US in such an abyss!
(The Swiss, 4 November 2009 20:27)
I fully agree with your comments.However, Obama has to be very careful not to go the Jimmy Carter route.
Next year will be very crusial for Obama and unless he comes with some convincing answers on the economic,social and foreign affairs issues facing US he could face a serious backlash from voters in mid-term elections.If the democrats loose those elections Obama will be in the history books.
"Maybe New Jersey is a little bit special. I see however a lot of articles lately describing the desillusion of people all over the country, who voted for your dear Obama.
This is only one year after the election." (Joe)
-- Well we have to take NJ as somewhat of a special case. I feel this had less to do with Obama than with what many here (myself included) saw as a miserable administration under Corzine, most importantly property taxes that local municipalities are raising to offset their own rampant spending. People are moving out of NJ simply because it's too expensive to live in. Not to mention the corruption that has become almost expected (and I expect Christie to do no less). You may recall a few months ago a series of NJ mayors and state legislators arrested by the FBI in a sting? NJ is a great place to live if you can afford it, and look the other way.
Now as far as Obama is concerned, I think whatever criticism of him exists also has to be taken with a grain of salt. Are we talking about honest criticism by respected conservatives, or are we talking about the Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity race bating? If it's the former, then yes, I have to agree with The Swiss who says that much of the problems are leftovers of the Bush administration that he, or anyone, would be left with. If it's the latter, than it's little more than angry white racism that holds no substance on its own. If there's any justified criticsm of this current administration, I'd say the blame lies more with Pelosi and Reid than with Obama.
I'm actually of the opinion that even though Obama was handed 'hell in a hand basket' when he took over the office, he has shown some of his true colors. He seems to have gone against his primary motivating points during the campaigning season. The time for change has not occurred. He's surrounded himself with the people that were part of the group that created the messes that he's inherited. He quickly backed off of the single payer model for health insurance. He's done everything to keep the wrong doing industries afloat all the while ignoring the people that he once claimed to be running for president for. He's said that the banks and auto industries were too big to fail, yet he's left California, a state which is ranked among the largest markets in the world, in limbo; apparently it isn't too big to fail.
To be fair, I understand that he's been severely hamstringed by what he inherited and the spinelessness of his party and his backers.
So far I haven't seen him as a bringer of change, but rather as an agent of continuation.
I still hope for the better future that he dreamed and talked about, but I know better than to hold my breath. I suppose it could be worse, but we all know that it could certainly be better
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