Latvia to stage "retaliatory" military exercises

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

This is 100% correct.

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My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

This is 100% impossible for them because once they admit the reality, they cease to exist as such.

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Ultimately, I think, military exercise is not the proper answer. What Latvians should do is just straight declare war on Russians and invade the country. They do have both the manpower and the might to execute that in Blitzkrieg-manner. The best timing for that would be April 1, 2010.

Ataman,
I appreciate your thoughtful comments and great sense of humor.

It's incredible a small and virtually bankrupt country with a dark past-remember all those latvian volunteers on the SS units- attempting to show some muscle to its neighbours (Saakshvili like).

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.

My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.

It's incredible a small and virtually bankrupt country with a dark past-remember all those latvian volunteers on the SS units- attempting to show some muscle to its neighbours (Saakshvili like).

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.

My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

Yes, and there is a good amount of discrimination against the Russian population... many of whome were born in Latvia.

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

Yes I strongly agree. NATO should hold a huge military exercise on Russia’s doorstep and then Russia closes its borders to NATO resupplying their troops in Afghanistan. Good thinking. You should be in MI6.

"exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

You can't be serious, don't you think that they already have enough in cleaning the mess they created all around the world..., but of course if you are such a fan of war games, then as a UK citizen you might always apply to go to Afganistan and feed your adrenaline!!

Amazing how a bankrupted country still spend so much money for nothing..., all this at the end at the expense of the EU tax payers!

Kosova-USA:
> I think a military drill for counterattack is just and a must.

Counterattack? Baltic states?

You really are clueless aren't you ;)

The Russians should be quaking in their boots. Can you imagine, Latvia holding military exercises to counteract the recent Russian/Belarus exercises. Talk about having tickets on themselves or delusions of grandeur, but that is what happens to these tin pot states they actually believe that their own propaganda.

But maybe if the Kosovars and Albanians send over their donkey regiments the Russians will back off.

I hate for China to get an larger or to be neighbors to US, but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia.
(aRTa, 2 November 2009 15:52)

make up your mind albanians! are serbs from siberia or is it the chinese? ;)

Next time try to get a little more creative...so we can all laugh.
(Ment, 2 November 2009 16:58)

Unfortunately, your Kosovars/Albanians don’t understand anything else so I suggest that they stop threatening everyone with NATO all the time.

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.

aRTA, The Chinese are very smart and sooner or later they will get back Siberia.
(Joe, 2 November 2009 20:46)

Get back? Joe could you inform us when actually siberia belonged to China ?
However funny it may sound on historic basis even hungarians have more right to siberia than chinaise.Anyway they are really very smart and have never been a type of agressive axpansionists.But do not underestimate ruskies either.It si not an accident that even compared to their high population they have always been overrepresented among chess world champions ,mathematicians ,strategists and so on .Hungary will much earlier be a country belonging to settlers coming from certain middle eastern country than siberia chinaise.Some parts of russian far east may become chinese but rather only economicly.By no means expect a China streching up to Ural.They have by far much better positions in south east asia and oceania .Otherwise I would welcome in Hungary a chinaise community of about 200-300 000 people.They are loyal to new country do not interfere in domestic affairs give a boost to economy and are very polite.

I hate for China to get an larger or to be neighbors to US, but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia. Just to spite Russia. http://www.slate.com/id/2086157/

Sj

I'm glad you amuse yourself with the "donkey regiments" comment... except you've used this joke?? a couple of times already.

Next time try to get a little more creative...so we can all laugh.

Joe,

What you refer to is only a little part of Russian Far East (and even that article writes about it).China has never occupied more than 5 percent of total area of siberia and rfe and it was in the 13th century anyway.If you can provide me with any historic map which shows the oppsite I would highly appricate it.It would be a big surprise to me a person who has read not only some articles but several books about that region(some of my family members were there on exhile therefor my interest in the region.)

Yes, and there is a good amount of discrimination against the Russian population... many of whome were born in Latvia.
(Jason, 2 November 2009 13:11)

And most of them are not loyal to Latvia. What else could small Latvia do to defend herself?

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

You are absolutely right. That "exercise" was nothing else than provocation. And there will be more of that kind. Imperialistic, bellicose Russia at her best. Most Europeans will see that the existence of NATO is justified just like during the cold war.

Russia now will be very,very scared...
I hope Latvia will not default though,a manouvre costs money,maybe their "ambassadors" from London Soho will send some money...

However, the Baltic States expressed their concern over the drill. The Latvian defense minister claimed the exercise scenario concentrated on attacking the Baltic countries.

I think a military drill for counterattack is just and a must.

but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia. Just to spite Russia. [link]/
(aRTa, 2 November 2009 15:52)

aRTA, The Chinese are very smart and sooner or later they will get back Siberia.

"no means expect a China streching up to Ural.They have by far much better positions in south east asia and oceania .Otherwise I would *welcome in Hungary a chinaise community of about 200-300 000 people.*They are loyal to new country do not interfere in domestic affairs give a boost to economy and are very polite.
(szemi,

How would you grow the fastest population on sunsets and tsunamis? Great oil and ore to the heart of the capital from the north is far better temting,

Plus all that talk about people being different personas in here, a hungarian? :
You were not in the right borders when the melbourne olympics were on ;)
Of course you would welcome "them".

szemi,

It is not a joke. Before the mid-19th century most Siberia belonged to China. Most pleople know it.
Also read the link provided by aRTa.

NATO carries out such exercises all the time, particularly simulated nuclear attacks on Russia and China, along with 'interventions' in fictitious states that bear no resemblance in any way to Bosnia. At all.

As for this Russian exercise, they could have just taken the NATO route and called the countries Bellonia & Pellonia, much like the thinly disguised NATO exercises. I won't mention NATO planes flying up and down the Baltics either.

The Russians and Belorussians do have a valid reason for this exercise, even if it is out dated. Back in 2005 Poland started bleating loudly (in July/August of course) over the 'Union of Poles in Belarus'.

They tried to drag in the rest of the EU, but the Germans told them to STFU and the whole sorry story died down.

Here's the full thing via outdated US propaganda outfit
RFE/RL: http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060619.html

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.

However, the Baltic States expressed their concern over the drill. The Latvian defense minister claimed the exercise scenario concentrated on attacking the Baltic countries.

I think a military drill for counterattack is just and a must.

I hate for China to get an larger or to be neighbors to US, but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia. Just to spite Russia. http://www.slate.com/id/2086157/

Sj

I'm glad you amuse yourself with the "donkey regiments" comment... except you've used this joke?? a couple of times already.

Next time try to get a little more creative...so we can all laugh.

It's incredible a small and virtually bankrupt country with a dark past-remember all those latvian volunteers on the SS units- attempting to show some muscle to its neighbours (Saakshvili like).

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.

My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.

It's incredible a small and virtually bankrupt country with a dark past-remember all those latvian volunteers on the SS units- attempting to show some muscle to its neighbours (Saakshvili like).

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.

My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

Yes, and there is a good amount of discrimination against the Russian population... many of whome were born in Latvia.

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

You are absolutely right. That "exercise" was nothing else than provocation. And there will be more of that kind. Imperialistic, bellicose Russia at her best. Most Europeans will see that the existence of NATO is justified just like during the cold war.

Yes, and there is a good amount of discrimination against the Russian population... many of whome were born in Latvia.
(Jason, 2 November 2009 13:11)

And most of them are not loyal to Latvia. What else could small Latvia do to defend herself?

but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia. Just to spite Russia. [link]/
(aRTa, 2 November 2009 15:52)

aRTA, The Chinese are very smart and sooner or later they will get back Siberia.

The Russians should be quaking in their boots. Can you imagine, Latvia holding military exercises to counteract the recent Russian/Belarus exercises. Talk about having tickets on themselves or delusions of grandeur, but that is what happens to these tin pot states they actually believe that their own propaganda.

But maybe if the Kosovars and Albanians send over their donkey regiments the Russians will back off.

Good for Latvia I say. The Latvian Government obviously feels threatened by this Russian military exercise on Latvia's doorstep. Poland also felt threatened by the is "exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

Yes I strongly agree. NATO should hold a huge military exercise on Russia’s doorstep and then Russia closes its borders to NATO resupplying their troops in Afghanistan. Good thinking. You should be in MI6.

Next time try to get a little more creative...so we can all laugh.
(Ment, 2 November 2009 16:58)

Unfortunately, your Kosovars/Albanians don’t understand anything else so I suggest that they stop threatening everyone with NATO all the time.

Kosova-USA:
> I think a military drill for counterattack is just and a must.

Counterattack? Baltic states?

You really are clueless aren't you ;)

szemi,

It is not a joke. Before the mid-19th century most Siberia belonged to China. Most pleople know it.
Also read the link provided by aRTa.

Amazing how a bankrupted country still spend so much money for nothing..., all this at the end at the expense of the EU tax payers!

It's also worth mentioning that Latvia has 30% population of Russians who are still mostly kept us non-citizens and who almost completely kept out of government.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

This is 100% correct.

--------

My advice to them will be to live the ghosts of the past behind and try to form good neighbouring relations with Belaruss and the Russians instead of acting in a manner which could be interpreted as hostile.
(Leonidas, 2 November 2009 12:44)

This is 100% impossible for them because once they admit the reality, they cease to exist as such.

--------

Ultimately, I think, military exercise is not the proper answer. What Latvians should do is just straight declare war on Russians and invade the country. They do have both the manpower and the might to execute that in Blitzkrieg-manner. The best timing for that would be April 1, 2010.

"no means expect a China streching up to Ural.They have by far much better positions in south east asia and oceania .Otherwise I would *welcome in Hungary a chinaise community of about 200-300 000 people.*They are loyal to new country do not interfere in domestic affairs give a boost to economy and are very polite.
(szemi,

How would you grow the fastest population on sunsets and tsunamis? Great oil and ore to the heart of the capital from the north is far better temting,

Plus all that talk about people being different personas in here, a hungarian? :
You were not in the right borders when the melbourne olympics were on ;)
Of course you would welcome "them".

"exercise". NATO should perform a huge military exercise on Russia's and Belarus' doorstep.
(Ian, UK, 2 November 2009 12:42)

You can't be serious, don't you think that they already have enough in cleaning the mess they created all around the world..., but of course if you are such a fan of war games, then as a UK citizen you might always apply to go to Afganistan and feed your adrenaline!!

Ataman,
I appreciate your thoughtful comments and great sense of humor.

I hate for China to get an larger or to be neighbors to US, but I wouldn't mind if they got what was always theirs, Siberia.
(aRTa, 2 November 2009 15:52)

make up your mind albanians! are serbs from siberia or is it the chinese? ;)

aRTA, The Chinese are very smart and sooner or later they will get back Siberia.
(Joe, 2 November 2009 20:46)

Get back? Joe could you inform us when actually siberia belonged to China ?
However funny it may sound on historic basis even hungarians have more right to siberia than chinaise.Anyway they are really very smart and have never been a type of agressive axpansionists.But do not underestimate ruskies either.It si not an accident that even compared to their high population they have always been overrepresented among chess world champions ,mathematicians ,strategists and so on .Hungary will much earlier be a country belonging to settlers coming from certain middle eastern country than siberia chinaise.Some parts of russian far east may become chinese but rather only economicly.By no means expect a China streching up to Ural.They have by far much better positions in south east asia and oceania .Otherwise I would welcome in Hungary a chinaise community of about 200-300 000 people.They are loyal to new country do not interfere in domestic affairs give a boost to economy and are very polite.

Russia now will be very,very scared...
I hope Latvia will not default though,a manouvre costs money,maybe their "ambassadors" from London Soho will send some money...

Joe,

What you refer to is only a little part of Russian Far East (and even that article writes about it).China has never occupied more than 5 percent of total area of siberia and rfe and it was in the 13th century anyway.If you can provide me with any historic map which shows the oppsite I would highly appricate it.It would be a big surprise to me a person who has read not only some articles but several books about that region(some of my family members were there on exhile therefor my interest in the region.)

NATO carries out such exercises all the time, particularly simulated nuclear attacks on Russia and China, along with 'interventions' in fictitious states that bear no resemblance in any way to Bosnia. At all.

As for this Russian exercise, they could have just taken the NATO route and called the countries Bellonia & Pellonia, much like the thinly disguised NATO exercises. I won't mention NATO planes flying up and down the Baltics either.

The Russians and Belorussians do have a valid reason for this exercise, even if it is out dated. Back in 2005 Poland started bleating loudly (in July/August of course) over the 'Union of Poles in Belarus'.

They tried to drag in the rest of the EU, but the Germans told them to STFU and the whole sorry story died down.

Here's the full thing via outdated US propaganda outfit
RFE/RL: http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1060619.html