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Sunday, 01.11.2009.

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SNS: Serbia needs serious actions, not marketing tricks

The Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) said that Serbia needs a serious fight against organized crime, not a marketing trick used by the government for promotion.

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bganon

pre 14 godina

Yaroslav I think you are too kind in saying that 'for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies' (although I agree with the rest of what you are saying).

It was quite simply the dictatorial nature of Vojislav Seselj that prevented the SRS party from moving forward. Nikolic was well liked and well respected by SRS functionaries and members alike. There was support for reform of party policy, but a small circle of Seseljites came down hard against. Seselj ordered for the 'black files' to be used against any SRS members who did not toe the line. Nikolic was not willing to fight and make a bloody ending (actually I think if he choose to fight his chances to 'win' would have been 50/50).

I know that come next election many SRS supporters will not only be angry but will bitterly regret not supporting Nikolic more vocally, rather than tying their mast to the skinking Seselj ship.? And more SRS supporters will decamp to SNS.

High Duke you parrot party propoganda without thinking to check the facts. I hope you are paid to do this, it would upset me to think you are being misled through lack of knowledge.

Besides, one can easily say that SRS stole Kosovo policy from SPS so does that make SRS the same party? - laying aside the fact that some say that SRS was in fact created by SPS controlled secret police to masqarade as an opposition party and to ride to the rescue by supporting the continued catasrophic government of Milosevic when necessary. BTW the same was true for New Democracy, which jumped ship to join DOS and controlled the police portfolios in government.

No, SRS has no firm ground to stand on when making accusations of this type.

For example you could easily say (and keep saying) that SNS will support a future DS government, which in your view is bad enough, but no, you have to claim they are exactly the same. Clearly they are not.

This is the problem with the radical mindset - everything is black and white. Well, the real world isn't quite like that.

highduke

pre 14 godina

The 06 constitution's KosMet clauses were pushed by SRS according to Nikolic himself, you obviously dont read the papers & watch skupstina &/or are a novice &/or arent observant, plus placing weight on Djindjic's interview proves you're naive to ignore DSS & DS pre-07 pro-independence statements which Nikolic always pointed out. Lastly I didnt say SRS had a 'bridge between east & west' policy'. If you're confused about something that OBVIOUS, then you lose all credibility.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

If DS was anti-Kosmet prior to 2007, why did it in 2006 vote for the current constiution, why did Djindjic state constantly he opposed Kosovo independence (see the last interview he ever gave) and why did the LDPs founder quit DS years before your claim of their sudden turn.

NATO is a different question and DS has never adopted SRS policies with regard to NATO. DS has been consistent in regard to NATO.

How exactly is the bridge between east and west something SNS took from SRS. I've heard political science talk of it almost immediately after 2001, and the first time I heard Nikolic talk of it was in 2003 [5 whole years before I heard Boziar Djelic, the first official to mention it, mention it].

highduke

pre 14 godina

WRONG. DS statements before early-2007 were that KosMet was lost & NATO was our destiny, then they switched to anti-NATO pro-KosMet SRS policies after Russia got involved, while SNS ex-Radicals took up pro-EU, 'bridge between East & West' policies of post 2007 DS. It's not my fault you either only recently started following events OR have a short memory. DS & SNS are the same now, Nikolic knows it & hence the crude, baseless populist SNS rhetoric even YOU can't miss.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Highduke, SNS adopted no DS policies and DS adopted no SRS policies.

DS adopted the stance any liberal pro-EU party would adopt to keep in line with the constitution that Kosovo is Serbia.

The SNS adopted policies Nikolic had and stated constantly for the last 7 years, but for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies.

The anti-tycoon talk might be populist. But the simpel fact is tycoons would have less power if small parties susceptible to them weren't in parlimanet.

highduke

pre 14 godina

Serbia's electricity prices are among the lowest in Europe even with the increase plus SNS is clearly upset that DS is cleaning up organized crime because it takes away from their own platform. SNS is totally redundant because it took up DS policies to appeal to voters, while DS took up old SRS policies on KosMet to stay in power. SNS knows they are no alternative to DS & that tycoons are an inevitable part of capitalism & any anti-tycoon talk is hot air populism.

highduke

pre 14 godina

Serbia's electricity prices are among the lowest in Europe even with the increase plus SNS is clearly upset that DS is cleaning up organized crime because it takes away from their own platform. SNS is totally redundant because it took up DS policies to appeal to voters, while DS took up old SRS policies on KosMet to stay in power. SNS knows they are no alternative to DS & that tycoons are an inevitable part of capitalism & any anti-tycoon talk is hot air populism.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Highduke, SNS adopted no DS policies and DS adopted no SRS policies.

DS adopted the stance any liberal pro-EU party would adopt to keep in line with the constitution that Kosovo is Serbia.

The SNS adopted policies Nikolic had and stated constantly for the last 7 years, but for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies.

The anti-tycoon talk might be populist. But the simpel fact is tycoons would have less power if small parties susceptible to them weren't in parlimanet.

bganon

pre 14 godina

Yaroslav I think you are too kind in saying that 'for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies' (although I agree with the rest of what you are saying).

It was quite simply the dictatorial nature of Vojislav Seselj that prevented the SRS party from moving forward. Nikolic was well liked and well respected by SRS functionaries and members alike. There was support for reform of party policy, but a small circle of Seseljites came down hard against. Seselj ordered for the 'black files' to be used against any SRS members who did not toe the line. Nikolic was not willing to fight and make a bloody ending (actually I think if he choose to fight his chances to 'win' would have been 50/50).

I know that come next election many SRS supporters will not only be angry but will bitterly regret not supporting Nikolic more vocally, rather than tying their mast to the skinking Seselj ship.? And more SRS supporters will decamp to SNS.

High Duke you parrot party propoganda without thinking to check the facts. I hope you are paid to do this, it would upset me to think you are being misled through lack of knowledge.

Besides, one can easily say that SRS stole Kosovo policy from SPS so does that make SRS the same party? - laying aside the fact that some say that SRS was in fact created by SPS controlled secret police to masqarade as an opposition party and to ride to the rescue by supporting the continued catasrophic government of Milosevic when necessary. BTW the same was true for New Democracy, which jumped ship to join DOS and controlled the police portfolios in government.

No, SRS has no firm ground to stand on when making accusations of this type.

For example you could easily say (and keep saying) that SNS will support a future DS government, which in your view is bad enough, but no, you have to claim they are exactly the same. Clearly they are not.

This is the problem with the radical mindset - everything is black and white. Well, the real world isn't quite like that.

highduke

pre 14 godina

WRONG. DS statements before early-2007 were that KosMet was lost & NATO was our destiny, then they switched to anti-NATO pro-KosMet SRS policies after Russia got involved, while SNS ex-Radicals took up pro-EU, 'bridge between East & West' policies of post 2007 DS. It's not my fault you either only recently started following events OR have a short memory. DS & SNS are the same now, Nikolic knows it & hence the crude, baseless populist SNS rhetoric even YOU can't miss.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

If DS was anti-Kosmet prior to 2007, why did it in 2006 vote for the current constiution, why did Djindjic state constantly he opposed Kosovo independence (see the last interview he ever gave) and why did the LDPs founder quit DS years before your claim of their sudden turn.

NATO is a different question and DS has never adopted SRS policies with regard to NATO. DS has been consistent in regard to NATO.

How exactly is the bridge between east and west something SNS took from SRS. I've heard political science talk of it almost immediately after 2001, and the first time I heard Nikolic talk of it was in 2003 [5 whole years before I heard Boziar Djelic, the first official to mention it, mention it].

highduke

pre 14 godina

The 06 constitution's KosMet clauses were pushed by SRS according to Nikolic himself, you obviously dont read the papers & watch skupstina &/or are a novice &/or arent observant, plus placing weight on Djindjic's interview proves you're naive to ignore DSS & DS pre-07 pro-independence statements which Nikolic always pointed out. Lastly I didnt say SRS had a 'bridge between east & west' policy'. If you're confused about something that OBVIOUS, then you lose all credibility.

highduke

pre 14 godina

WRONG. DS statements before early-2007 were that KosMet was lost & NATO was our destiny, then they switched to anti-NATO pro-KosMet SRS policies after Russia got involved, while SNS ex-Radicals took up pro-EU, 'bridge between East & West' policies of post 2007 DS. It's not my fault you either only recently started following events OR have a short memory. DS & SNS are the same now, Nikolic knows it & hence the crude, baseless populist SNS rhetoric even YOU can't miss.

highduke

pre 14 godina

The 06 constitution's KosMet clauses were pushed by SRS according to Nikolic himself, you obviously dont read the papers & watch skupstina &/or are a novice &/or arent observant, plus placing weight on Djindjic's interview proves you're naive to ignore DSS & DS pre-07 pro-independence statements which Nikolic always pointed out. Lastly I didnt say SRS had a 'bridge between east & west' policy'. If you're confused about something that OBVIOUS, then you lose all credibility.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

Highduke, SNS adopted no DS policies and DS adopted no SRS policies.

DS adopted the stance any liberal pro-EU party would adopt to keep in line with the constitution that Kosovo is Serbia.

The SNS adopted policies Nikolic had and stated constantly for the last 7 years, but for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies.

The anti-tycoon talk might be populist. But the simpel fact is tycoons would have less power if small parties susceptible to them weren't in parlimanet.

highduke

pre 14 godina

Serbia's electricity prices are among the lowest in Europe even with the increase plus SNS is clearly upset that DS is cleaning up organized crime because it takes away from their own platform. SNS is totally redundant because it took up DS policies to appeal to voters, while DS took up old SRS policies on KosMet to stay in power. SNS knows they are no alternative to DS & that tycoons are an inevitable part of capitalism & any anti-tycoon talk is hot air populism.

Yaroslav

pre 14 godina

If DS was anti-Kosmet prior to 2007, why did it in 2006 vote for the current constiution, why did Djindjic state constantly he opposed Kosovo independence (see the last interview he ever gave) and why did the LDPs founder quit DS years before your claim of their sudden turn.

NATO is a different question and DS has never adopted SRS policies with regard to NATO. DS has been consistent in regard to NATO.

How exactly is the bridge between east and west something SNS took from SRS. I've heard political science talk of it almost immediately after 2001, and the first time I heard Nikolic talk of it was in 2003 [5 whole years before I heard Boziar Djelic, the first official to mention it, mention it].

bganon

pre 14 godina

Yaroslav I think you are too kind in saying that 'for ideologial reasons couldn't be adopted as SRS policies' (although I agree with the rest of what you are saying).

It was quite simply the dictatorial nature of Vojislav Seselj that prevented the SRS party from moving forward. Nikolic was well liked and well respected by SRS functionaries and members alike. There was support for reform of party policy, but a small circle of Seseljites came down hard against. Seselj ordered for the 'black files' to be used against any SRS members who did not toe the line. Nikolic was not willing to fight and make a bloody ending (actually I think if he choose to fight his chances to 'win' would have been 50/50).

I know that come next election many SRS supporters will not only be angry but will bitterly regret not supporting Nikolic more vocally, rather than tying their mast to the skinking Seselj ship.? And more SRS supporters will decamp to SNS.

High Duke you parrot party propoganda without thinking to check the facts. I hope you are paid to do this, it would upset me to think you are being misled through lack of knowledge.

Besides, one can easily say that SRS stole Kosovo policy from SPS so does that make SRS the same party? - laying aside the fact that some say that SRS was in fact created by SPS controlled secret police to masqarade as an opposition party and to ride to the rescue by supporting the continued catasrophic government of Milosevic when necessary. BTW the same was true for New Democracy, which jumped ship to join DOS and controlled the police portfolios in government.

No, SRS has no firm ground to stand on when making accusations of this type.

For example you could easily say (and keep saying) that SNS will support a future DS government, which in your view is bad enough, but no, you have to claim they are exactly the same. Clearly they are not.

This is the problem with the radical mindset - everything is black and white. Well, the real world isn't quite like that.