"Serbia ready for new intiatives on Kosovo"

This is a very good move. This is Tadic basically saying that even if the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour, then Serbia will still be in favour of finding a longterm compromise.

Very good diplomacy and shows that the will to create a lasting solution really exists.

Brilliant. He is absolutely right to be focusing on peace, CNN, The BBC and other western media are going to find it really hard to draw horns on the Serbs in the future, I'm not saying they wont try, but Tadic is making it harder for them.

Here in England there are no positive news stories about Serbs. In fact there are no stories about Serbia. That is until the last few days when the BBC's bogeyman Radovan failed to appear at The Hague. They jumped all over it. A lot of coverage has been given to this. Lots of pictures of widows crying and bad man Radovan. This continues to have the effect of stereotyping all Serbs as evil by association, as there are no positive Serbian stories. I guess the BBC will keep beating this drum while ignoring the plight of Serbs in Kosovo or Krajina. In this way dumbed down public approval of British foreign policy that is anti Serbian and pro anybody in the region that isn't Serbian will continue. Not very clever but it works.

The alignment with Russia and China will really help too. In the future The Brits and the Yanks will even become big Serb fans again because there is nothing they love more than money and the Russians and Chinese will have most of that.

Keep pushing Tadic
but it's good that the Serbian govt realized that ICJ will rule for Kosova. To Serb posters: why did Kosova had a rotating president of Yugoslavia after 1974?

That, combined with 1999 = pro Kosova ICJ.

Tadic wants talking to Kosovo institutions "regardless ICJ". OF COURSE, you know that your case is already too weak and no power on earth can challenge the will of the progressive world which is committed to enforce that ONLY the will of people who lived there for over 4000 years is to decide for their own fate.

Steps towards recognising the reality of independence is starting, earlier than I predicted.

I thought it will be 2021 before you recocnize Kosovo, but these moves made my prediction wrong for a decade.

Remember Mr Tadic, recognition as such will not be sufficient, you need to appologise and pay reparations to the victims before we consider to normalise relations.

Long live the civilised world pressure on rogue states

Ok Tadic,

But why are you saying that further Negotiations should happen either way hmmmm. Why would Kosovo do that?

I believe RS should separate become a country or join SERBIA, there is not way anyone here likes each other and trust each other.

Let each entity live together, but as an abserver I cant see how Kosovo will go under Serbia....

This, the president told state broadcaster RTS late on Wednesday, regardless of the International Court of Justice's (ICJ) stand on the issue of the legality of the unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo's ethnic Albanians.


wow, Mr. Tadic must have seen a dream last night. I think he can just smell the bad odor of defeat at ICJ.
Funny when I rea dthe words "regardles of ICJ decision". So, why bother bringing the case and not accepting the advisory opinion???
I am getting tired of reading jokes every single day from Serb politicians.

"A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."





Is Tadic feeling okej? Hallucinations are not something to take lightly.

Bi-lateral talks are the only way to resolve disputes between nations - and they must not be predetermined talks. The US way of forced solutions obviously does not work. Pristina must be encouraged to return to the bargaining table, or it will levitate in limbo for decades to come. I don't believe that it's initial supporters have an appetite for that. Good luck, wisdom, and look with open eyes, to all.

"Mladic not in Serbia"

Right. And Karadzic, they found him hiding in the moon.

The president was also quoted on the RTS website as saying, "A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."
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Funniest comment ever. maybe Biden's advisor told Jeremic when Jeremic said he met him (when he didn't actually meet him)

Will Kosova be handed to you without the 2 million Albanians, Tadic? Funny how the "International community" is helping Kosova setup elections, settle the borders with its neighbors, start the visa and SAA applications. Doris Pack (speaks at least for Germany) was clear yesterday: No EU without "solving" Kosova issue, we know how Germans, French and 20 other EU members want it solved. Sweden even said no visas for Serbs unless Serbia sets up the customs. EU and US will decide this, not China or Russia because Serbia dreams of joining EU not the Russian federation.


--- “Serbia has already given to EU something concrete: stability in the Balkans, despite all the suffering that we were exposed to. I do not believe that any other country would respond in such democratic and peaceful way to a unilateral declaration of independence by its province[Kosovo]. Serbia has thus given an example that may be followed in all conflicts in the world,”

Wow! Despite all the suffering you caused, NATO brought stability. You don;t dare to start another war, that's why you didn't Tadic and everyone knows it.

"According to him, "there is no doubt that things regarding Kosovo and Metohija may change, either as a consequence of the economic crisis or as a result of the changes in relations on the international political scene".

"In that sense, it is of major importance that Serbia has two influential states, China and Russia, on its side," said he. "

READ: as soon as we judged with our sponsors Russians that invading Kosova militarly is possible- we will do it.

Thanks US/EU for allowing us 2,500 lightly armed supermans that will defend us- when the things regarding Kosova "may change, either as a consequence of the economic crisis or as a result of the changes in relations on the international political scene" to use the Tadic's honest words.

And whom might be this mysterious 'world class politician'?

For the rest of the Serb audience: it should be clear to you by now that the UDI has nothing to do economics. You should not expect Albanians to be bribed with passports or a big candy jar.

The Albanian UDI is almost like fulfilling a prophecy. If you think of Kosovo as some kind of Jerusalem, then the Albanians would be the Jews.

It's nice to see great interest coming from our ethnic Albanian citizens regarding comments from their president.

Tadic, its nothing wrong with having dreams, just dont try to force it with reality.

It would be nice if Tadic takes initiative in telling where 1000s of missing K-Albanian bodies are buried.

Zoran, are yuo takling of somekind of cold war between Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War? What is the price that Serbian people are preapred to pay for Milosevic ideas?

The heat is on with ICJ and EU member states are feeling it as they try to lick their old wounds.

There is an old saying "get your own home in order before you start preaching to others how they should run theirs".

I spoke to some K-Albanians regarding moving back under Serbia or be in limbo for decades to come.

And I got a interesting answer, rather starve and not be recognised then go under brutal Serbian regime.

I think many people here know this just like to repeat same coments over and over. Why dont you ask people what they want.

As for north ks let them go they will be like a thorn under your foot let them go.

"Why dont you ask people what they want."
ATM

Why ask the people what they want? What do they have to do with it? The territory of Kosovo is Serbia. That should be returned to Serbia. If the people living there want to accept that its ok, if not you can always move back to Albania.

President Boris Tadić says Belgrade will continue to insist on a resumption of talks on Kosovo. My Serb friends 20+ years to late when you had a good chance to negotiate. The Albanian side would of listened but since their was a lot of turbulent water past that bridge. The Albanians will not be using that bridge anymore they don't trust it.

“I hope and I am confident that the decision will be very positive for Serbia. After that, we will be always ready to discuss the future of Kosovo with Priština [Kosovo Albanians].”

To discuss what? I am trying to figure out...) Well Serbia is not trying to talk to Kosovo/a Albanians? What is Serbia doing undermine Kosova and its institutions with every mean. Does Tadic think the Kosovar are stupid? I do not see any single reason for Kosova to talk to Serbia unless Serbia recognises Kosova's independence. Let's wait and see...)

"We are ready to undertake new initiatives, that have not been undertaken from the very beginning. I'm an optimist and hope for a positive response of the ICJ." aka Tadic.

What other ways are left to fight with exept war mr,Tadic?you're trying to demonize Albanians in every way and aspect possible,made up stories like organ traficing,bribing people for false testimonies,outrageus acousations for war crimes to ordinary people,intimidating and using the Kosovo Serbs to undermine the institutions in Kosovo etc...I don't really know what else beside war you can do?
P.S, Zoran,we ( Alb camp ) don't really care what goes on in Serbia,we're just concerned for ourself,remember what happened in the Balcan last time your president was halucinating? that's basically it.

The president was also quoted on the RTS website as saying, "A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."
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My friends and fellow citizens. The writing is on the wall. It's time to negotiate a future for our province and ethnic Albanian self-rule is on the table.

Independence is irreversibly blocked and maintaining that position costs nothing to both Serbia and Russia while maintaining an occupation by countries in serious financial debt is simply not sustainable. NATO is exiting while Russia is building its forces in the region.

We have major investment initiatives coming from both China and Russia so it's time to face reality. Our ethnic Albanian citizens bought into the US at its peak - a time when it looked strong but was in serious trouble - much like the NAZIs during WWII. Yes, you are well known for choosing the wrong horse but there is always a chance to make things right. Get over your nationalism and start working towards peace and prosperity. The criminals in Pristina will be gone soon enough so lets work and negotiate a better future for ourselves.

You can either believe PRN or believe in the truth. What will it be?

I'm happy to see that Mr Tadic has taken the leading role in this issue. His opinion that bilateral talks are needed regardless of what the rest of the world, or the ICJ has to say is rather refreshing. He has finally opened his eyes, and hopefully the eyes of many more people in power to the reality of coexistance. The only possible long term solution is to require both parties to settle thier differences privately and politically. Ideally, both parties would be willing to acknowledges their troubled pasts with each other, accept that what was done in the past was wrong (and this past is littered with wrongs from both sides) and agree to move forward collectively and prosperously.
I do however find the nostalgic nationalism ripe with venom from the pro-Albanian posters to be neither helpful, open-minded, nor correct in thier interpration. I wonder would they have it that in case ICJ rules in favour of Serbia that Kosovo's establishment completely abondons their goals? Would they have it that if Kosovo win that Serbia abandon it's goals? What if ICJ says nothing of consequence? Then what? Continued limbo? This attitude does not help your brothers and sisters as much as it helps to stroke your own ego and nationalistic pride. Utimately what needs to happen is that both sides talk, discuss and forge a cooperative future together.

Serbia never talks of Kosova as an entity but only as an area that should be separated into a serb part and an Albanian part with the Albanian part demilitarized and under UN control. But what really surprises me by the serbs in this site is that it seems only Serbia,Russia, China have resolve and Kosova doesn't.

To: All

Both sides do have to talk on technical issues. Both sides do have to apologize. Both sides have to start fresh and on equal terms.

If both ppl are interested in finding a lastful peace then both ppl have to man up and admit their wrongs and make a pact to never repeat what has happened in the past.

If you truly want to be European (EU/WEST) then forgive and forget and do it for the future generations where each person can grow in peace and under the rule of law where all are treated equally under the law.

Hope the old will die quick and the young generations forget the past and look forward to a bright future together and as equals.

Peace to all....

if tadic or any serb really think that we albanians will talk with them than you can wait for minimum another 500 years

"We have nothing to negotiate with you, whom first choice was war and murder."

Ummmm....actually it was the KLA who began the war by murding Serb policemen. To this day I am astounded that we supported the KLA, who was known to have ties with Al Qaeda, and who was on the US State Department's terrorist list as late as 1998!

Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War? What is the price that Serbian people are preapred to pay for Milosevic ideas?
(Olf, 29 October 2009 18:18)

As an impartial international in Kosovo, I suggest you to convince your bosses to send a letter to Tadic to ask him the same question you have.

People that went missing during the war are not only in serbia but in the all balkan and you shouldn't be sarcastic with this.
At the end you are worst than the nationalists of either side and the way you play with the truth is simply disgusting!!
With "friends" like you kosovo doesn't need ennemies.

It is obviously interesting to see that as soon as someone talk about, dialogue, peace, long term solutions, the k-a nationalist come out in force pooring their boring every anti-serb hatred song...

And then some are wondering why they are far from being trusted and appreciated in Europe.
If you believe in your piece of land, then start building something positive and eventually people will start respecting you!

We are not Turks ore Greek.

We are DARDANIANS.
We fought for more then 6000 years, and we will fight fore thousands of year to com.

DARDAN

Geeze ruben, Don't blame Serbia for Karadzic...Austria let him into their country an dput him on tv as an expert in alternative medicine several times. He was allowed entry into several EU countries, not because Serbia allowed him to, but because he fooled Austria, Serbia and other EU countries.

Funny when I rea dthe words "regardles of ICJ decision". So, why bother bringing the case and not accepting the advisory opinion???
I am getting tired of reading jokes every single day from Serb politicians.
(Kosova-USA, 29 October 2009 15:25)

Like the K-Albs will conform to ICJs decison!

if tadic or any serb really think that we albanians will talk with them than you can wait for minimum another 500 years
(dan-ch, 29 October 2009 23:57)

Nobody expected in 90's, that Turks from Northern Cyprus will voted for back to Republic of Cyprus. But look... From the time of Cyprus integration with EU - Turks from North can leave their pseudoindependence and back to Republic of Cyprus ;)

In some years - Kosovo Albanians will be in similar situation like Cypriot Turks.

"Brilliant. He is absolutely right to be focusing on peace, CNN, The BBC and other western media are going to find it really hard to draw horns on the Serbs in the future, I'm not saying they wont try, but Tadic is making it harder for them.

Here in England there are no positive news stories about Serbs. In fact there are no stories about Serbia. That is until the last few days when the BBC's bogeyman Radovan failed to appear at The Hague. They jumped all over it. A lot of coverage has been given to this. Lots of pictures of widows crying and bad man Radovan. This continues to have the effect of stereotyping all Serbs as evil by association, as there are no positive Serbian stories. I guess the BBC will keep beating this drum while ignoring the plight of Serbs in Kosovo or Krajina. In this way dumbed down public approval of British foreign policy that is anti Serbian and pro anybody in the region that isn't Serbian will continue. Not very clever but it works." Miles

How good it is to read a good honest account of what is happening in the UK press here. Hopefully many will read this and start to question the inherently anti Serb press in the UK. Maybe then some will start to look more closely at some of the alleged events over the past 15 yaers and begin to realise that there are always two sides to every story. I live in hope that the UK press will begin to publish some positive stories regarding Serbia. I have visited Serbia on several occasions now and it has completely changed my UK press influenced opinion of the country and of the people. I now take a much more open minded view of Serbia and of the Balkans as a whole and would suggest that more did the same. Tadic appears to me to be a very accomplished and even minded politician. I am embarrased by my country's governments actions in recent years towards Serbia which had no public mandate and on most occasions were carried out against a background of huge political propoganda that bore little or no relation to the truth. I hope that the combination of Serbia's pragmantic and peaceful stance and a more informed opinion of the public at large here in Uk will result in a more balanced stance towards Serbia in the future.

We are not Turks ore Greek.

We are DARDANIANS.
We fought for more then 6000 years, and we will fight fore thousands of year to com.

DARDAN
(Dardan, 30 October 2009 08:20)

Are You Albanian or Aromanian?? Because Dardanians was destroyed by Romans and their remains were ROMANIZED. Roman province of Dardania was fully romanized. There born some of roman emperors - like Justinian. All of them spoke latin language and roman culture was their culture. Descents of romanized Illyrians are Aromanians.

You Albanians are descents of unromanized tribes from albanian mountains.

Is Tadic feeling okej? Hallucinations are not something to take lightly.
(KOSOVARi, 29 October 2009 15:53)

ya it must be that kosovo kush he's been hittin'!

Like the K-Albs will conform to ICJs decison!
(AdamSRB, 29 October 2009 23:31)
I don't believe the K-Albanians requested an opinion from the ICJ.
It would be one thing to have them render an opinion and then say "I don't agree with it" but to request one and even before they have a chance to hear the arguments, to make statements that they will not place any value on the opinion is beyond ludicrous.

Well the Swiss, ror any sane people serching for their missing loved ones is not Anti-Serb it is just priority and should be your responsibility too. This is incase yuo want to start changing the image of Serbia in the world. Otherwise, I must say that you are doing a good job at it as it is.

You should start thinking of leaving the box, and advise the Serbian governments to give asnwers to all questions that people of Balkans direct to them. I know that there are to many but hey you have to start somewhere if you want me and others to think different about the Serbia. I know that you cannot change the history, sorry, but you can do what Germans have done after the WWII.

Same old useless comments on here except for one by Miles.

Boy was that comment ever the truth. The only time I've ever seen "World News" out of the Balkans here in AUS include pictures of those same crying widows, elderly people etc (of course which which is not too far fetched that they could be pictures of Serbian people) with the big finger pointing towards the Serbs for "genocide" and "war crimes".

It's all getting rather tedious to the point that nobody takes notice of such propaganda anymore. It must really hurt the Western media that in the real world Serbia is such a peaceful and democratic nation.

Olf, why don't you go and dig up Thaci's back yard? I'm sure you'll find many missing persons there. Didn't you realise Albanians were killing their own? You are the one that needs to come out of the box and you may finally find those missing.

THe will to negotiate with Albanians requires the will from both parties, don't you agree?

From my understanding, the KLA has been killing and doing it's best to destroy Serbia's Kosovo since 1960s, perhaps even earlier. So dont give us this garbage if Serbs negotiated....THEY ARE and CONTINUE TO BE TERRORISTS. Who negotiates with terroists as an example from which to base these discussions? US, ISREAL, RUSSIA, CHINA, SPAIN? NO one, and neither should SERBIA!

and others to think different about the Serbia. I know that you cannot change the history, sorry, but you can do what Germans have done after the WWII.
(Olf, 30 October 2009 09:24)

Sorry mate, need a translation for the first part of your post... unreadable, as to the second, I don't know what
I should do like the germans did after WWII, if you didn't get it yet, am Swiss as long as Switzerland exists i.e. the 13th century...so, put this in your square head once for all.

I'm for neither side but certainly am part of those who wants the justice done not only in Serbia but in the all Balkans, like you should also be as an international active in kosovo.
However it looks like you are more a sort of ashamed coward not being able to say who exactly you are.

Zoran, I have listened to your likes and doug many gardens and found nothing. Gardens in Serbia are next and I am in no rush, i am sure that there will be results

Swiss, sorry to upset you but you really sound just like any Serbian radical.
I know you dont like my post and you call then anti-serb. The similar post are foud on B92 Serbins language.
If you take this into consideration than for sure you'll brand them something too.

THe will to negotiate with Albanians requires the will from both parties, don't you agree? Yes but when Serbia had the upper hand they did not negotiate. Serbia took the gun and used it on their neighbors. Any one who didn't see it the Serb way deadly cowardly force was used to further the Serb expansionist nationalist agenda.

From my understanding, the KLA has been killing and doing it's best to destroy Serbia's Kosovo since 1960s, perhaps even earlier. So dont give us this garbage if Serbs negotiated....THEY ARE and CONTINUE TO BE TERRORISTS. Who negotiates with terroists as an example from which to base these discussions? US, ISREAL, RUSSIA, CHINA, SPAIN? NO one, and neither should SERBIA!
(Lenard, 29 October 2009 20:23) I don't know who wrote that comet it must be a fake Serbian Lenard.

Olf, so why are you only hunting missing K-Albanians? What about missing Serbians? How many of them exist?

Are you sure you're not hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

You realise your comments come across as extreme as some of the ethnic Albanian posters here? Ever thought about balance?

Kosovo, will never go under Serbian rule again, never, as soon as u realise that,the better will be for Serbs. now the only thing the Serbian goverment can negotiate is? turn around Recognize Kosovo, or? face hard times for the rest of your generations,, simple as that,, there is nothing to negotiate there,

Zoran, are yuo takling of somekind of cold war between Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War?
(Olf, 29 October 2009 18:18)
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You mean do I support a multi-polar world? And the answer is I sure do. As has happened in the past, we benefit from such a scenario as it seems both the East and West are interested in being our friends, just like now.

In fact the whole world will benefit when there is a balance of power. Look at the mess the West has created in the last decade. I'm glad those days are numbered.

No negotiations, self-determination.

We have nothing to negotiate with you, whom first choice was war and murder. Sorry but no thanks. Go talk to yourself. When K-Alb wanted to talk you ignored us, and than you killed us, and now all of the sudden you want to talk. Too little, too late. We will take our chances on our own, since Serbia has always been a danger to our lives and existence.

We have nothing in common anymore. Our heros are your terrorists and vice versa, everything in Kosovo revolves around an anti-Serbian theme. Serbia was never our motherland, it never acted like it, it never try to be it, it never welcomed us in any way shape or form and it will never be.

You Albanians are descents of unromanized tribes from albanian mountains.
(Milan, 30 October 2009 14:40)

no they're not! they were brough over by the sicilians during the 14th century... albanians are not indigenous to the balkan penninsula...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIIbO5K_Xs

somewhere around 4 minutes, it's all explained...

The final status of Kosovo has solved on 17th February 2008.Serbia is looking to integrate in the EU not in China or Russia.You have to respect the values of the EU, not Russia and China.One of this values is to respect neighbors. Serbia will accept first Kosovo as a state before it get in the EU.Be of that sure!

Why ask the people what they want? What do they have to do with it? The territory of Kosovo is Serbia. That should be returned to Serbia. If the people living there want to accept that its ok, if not you can always move back to Albania.
(MikeC, 29 October 2009 18:23) ,

Dear MikeC,
You really are not in earth! This was the policy of Millosevic, but I think it did not worked at all!!!!
And you should know my dear that people are important and not the land. Tell me, did you born with on m2 land in your hand? Or can you just imagine that after 100 years all this people who is alive 99.99% will not live, so new generations will come and I am sure that due to other factors they may live in some other part of the world that was never land of their parents.
BTW what the politicians in Serbia are doing, is just a game to go through, they know that what Millosevic did with albanians in Kosovo, made them to lose Kosovo for ever. You serbs if you wanted to keep Kosovo, you should have not cancelled the constituion of 1974, but to give to albanians and hungarians (Vojvodina) the same rights as serbians. But you should have counted then that one day the parlament could have been 50% albanians... take it or leave it?
Happen what happened and today we have Kosovo as independent, good or not good is standing in it's foot, will be grown litle by litle and anyway is not worse than sorrounding countries at all.
Peace to all!

kiko says
'If both ppl are interested in finding a lastful peace then both ppl have to man up and admit their wrongs and make a pact to never repeat'

here let me start. Lustful piece? I'm down for that :)
I admit that's my wrong.

but i cant promise not to repeat it :))

The north, churches and graveyards ( to prevent more desecrations) stays in Serbia, the rest we will discuss.

The final status of Kosovo has solved on 17th February 2008.Serbia is looking to integrate in the EU not in China or Russia.You have to respect the values of the EU, not Russia and China.One of this values is to respect neighbors. Serbia will accept first Kosovo as a state before it get in the EU.Be of that sure!
(luis, 31 October 2009 15:47)

False reasons. Remember Cyprus. Republic of Cyprus never accepted illegal turkish pseudostate in Northern Cyprus - but today Republic of Cyprus is an EU member. And today - Turks from North are without any perspective ;)

So - probably in some years pseudoindependent Northern Cyprus will reintegrate with Republic of Cyprus.

Mr. Tadic, Game's over! Get over it once and for all. Kosovo can NOT go back with Serbia!
Try to understand that and maybe you will have a better night's sleep.
This goes to all Serbs too.

Kosovo will never be recognized as a county they can't even participate at the world cup. Problem is majority of Albanians live in a fairy tale that is composed of propagnda.1244!!!kosovo is serbs land.

Russians have recognized abhazia and s. osetia so they could probably recognize kosovo too and i think serbia should recognize kosovo if we loose ate ICJ but also republik of serpska.

And serbia should also recognize n.mitrovica.

Keep pushing Tadic
but it's good that the Serbian govt realized that ICJ will rule for Kosova. To Serb posters: why did Kosova had a rotating president of Yugoslavia after 1974?

That, combined with 1999 = pro Kosova ICJ.

This, the president told state broadcaster RTS late on Wednesday, regardless of the International Court of Justice's (ICJ) stand on the issue of the legality of the unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo's ethnic Albanians.


wow, Mr. Tadic must have seen a dream last night. I think he can just smell the bad odor of defeat at ICJ.
Funny when I rea dthe words "regardles of ICJ decision". So, why bother bringing the case and not accepting the advisory opinion???
I am getting tired of reading jokes every single day from Serb politicians.

"A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."





Is Tadic feeling okej? Hallucinations are not something to take lightly.

"Why dont you ask people what they want."
ATM

Why ask the people what they want? What do they have to do with it? The territory of Kosovo is Serbia. That should be returned to Serbia. If the people living there want to accept that its ok, if not you can always move back to Albania.

This is a very good move. This is Tadic basically saying that even if the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour, then Serbia will still be in favour of finding a longterm compromise.

Very good diplomacy and shows that the will to create a lasting solution really exists.

Tadic wants talking to Kosovo institutions "regardless ICJ". OF COURSE, you know that your case is already too weak and no power on earth can challenge the will of the progressive world which is committed to enforce that ONLY the will of people who lived there for over 4000 years is to decide for their own fate.

Steps towards recognising the reality of independence is starting, earlier than I predicted.

I thought it will be 2021 before you recocnize Kosovo, but these moves made my prediction wrong for a decade.

Remember Mr Tadic, recognition as such will not be sufficient, you need to appologise and pay reparations to the victims before we consider to normalise relations.

Long live the civilised world pressure on rogue states

It's nice to see great interest coming from our ethnic Albanian citizens regarding comments from their president.

The president was also quoted on the RTS website as saying, "A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."
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Funniest comment ever. maybe Biden's advisor told Jeremic when Jeremic said he met him (when he didn't actually meet him)

Will Kosova be handed to you without the 2 million Albanians, Tadic? Funny how the "International community" is helping Kosova setup elections, settle the borders with its neighbors, start the visa and SAA applications. Doris Pack (speaks at least for Germany) was clear yesterday: No EU without "solving" Kosova issue, we know how Germans, French and 20 other EU members want it solved. Sweden even said no visas for Serbs unless Serbia sets up the customs. EU and US will decide this, not China or Russia because Serbia dreams of joining EU not the Russian federation.


--- “Serbia has already given to EU something concrete: stability in the Balkans, despite all the suffering that we were exposed to. I do not believe that any other country would respond in such democratic and peaceful way to a unilateral declaration of independence by its province[Kosovo]. Serbia has thus given an example that may be followed in all conflicts in the world,”

Wow! Despite all the suffering you caused, NATO brought stability. You don;t dare to start another war, that's why you didn't Tadic and everyone knows it.

THe will to negotiate with Albanians requires the will from both parties, don't you agree?

From my understanding, the KLA has been killing and doing it's best to destroy Serbia's Kosovo since 1960s, perhaps even earlier. So dont give us this garbage if Serbs negotiated....THEY ARE and CONTINUE TO BE TERRORISTS. Who negotiates with terroists as an example from which to base these discussions? US, ISREAL, RUSSIA, CHINA, SPAIN? NO one, and neither should SERBIA!

"Mladic not in Serbia"

Right. And Karadzic, they found him hiding in the moon.

Bi-lateral talks are the only way to resolve disputes between nations - and they must not be predetermined talks. The US way of forced solutions obviously does not work. Pristina must be encouraged to return to the bargaining table, or it will levitate in limbo for decades to come. I don't believe that it's initial supporters have an appetite for that. Good luck, wisdom, and look with open eyes, to all.

Tadic, its nothing wrong with having dreams, just dont try to force it with reality.

President Boris Tadić says Belgrade will continue to insist on a resumption of talks on Kosovo. My Serb friends 20+ years to late when you had a good chance to negotiate. The Albanian side would of listened but since their was a lot of turbulent water past that bridge. The Albanians will not be using that bridge anymore they don't trust it.

It would be nice if Tadic takes initiative in telling where 1000s of missing K-Albanian bodies are buried.

Zoran, are yuo takling of somekind of cold war between Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War? What is the price that Serbian people are preapred to pay for Milosevic ideas?

The president was also quoted on the RTS website as saying, "A few years ago a world politician told me, 'You will have to recognize Kosovo's independence sooner or later'. Last year, the same politician spoke to me in this way: 'Soon the international community will address you to give you back something that's yours'."
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My friends and fellow citizens. The writing is on the wall. It's time to negotiate a future for our province and ethnic Albanian self-rule is on the table.

Independence is irreversibly blocked and maintaining that position costs nothing to both Serbia and Russia while maintaining an occupation by countries in serious financial debt is simply not sustainable. NATO is exiting while Russia is building its forces in the region.

We have major investment initiatives coming from both China and Russia so it's time to face reality. Our ethnic Albanian citizens bought into the US at its peak - a time when it looked strong but was in serious trouble - much like the NAZIs during WWII. Yes, you are well known for choosing the wrong horse but there is always a chance to make things right. Get over your nationalism and start working towards peace and prosperity. The criminals in Pristina will be gone soon enough so lets work and negotiate a better future for ourselves.

You can either believe PRN or believe in the truth. What will it be?

"According to him, "there is no doubt that things regarding Kosovo and Metohija may change, either as a consequence of the economic crisis or as a result of the changes in relations on the international political scene".

"In that sense, it is of major importance that Serbia has two influential states, China and Russia, on its side," said he. "

READ: as soon as we judged with our sponsors Russians that invading Kosova militarly is possible- we will do it.

Thanks US/EU for allowing us 2,500 lightly armed supermans that will defend us- when the things regarding Kosova "may change, either as a consequence of the economic crisis or as a result of the changes in relations on the international political scene" to use the Tadic's honest words.

Serbia never talks of Kosova as an entity but only as an area that should be separated into a serb part and an Albanian part with the Albanian part demilitarized and under UN control. But what really surprises me by the serbs in this site is that it seems only Serbia,Russia, China have resolve and Kosova doesn't.

Geeze ruben, Don't blame Serbia for Karadzic...Austria let him into their country an dput him on tv as an expert in alternative medicine several times. He was allowed entry into several EU countries, not because Serbia allowed him to, but because he fooled Austria, Serbia and other EU countries.

I spoke to some K-Albanians regarding moving back under Serbia or be in limbo for decades to come.

And I got a interesting answer, rather starve and not be recognised then go under brutal Serbian regime.

I think many people here know this just like to repeat same coments over and over. Why dont you ask people what they want.

As for north ks let them go they will be like a thorn under your foot let them go.

Ok Tadic,

But why are you saying that further Negotiations should happen either way hmmmm. Why would Kosovo do that?

I believe RS should separate become a country or join SERBIA, there is not way anyone here likes each other and trust each other.

Let each entity live together, but as an abserver I cant see how Kosovo will go under Serbia....

if tadic or any serb really think that we albanians will talk with them than you can wait for minimum another 500 years
(dan-ch, 29 October 2009 23:57)

Nobody expected in 90's, that Turks from Northern Cyprus will voted for back to Republic of Cyprus. But look... From the time of Cyprus integration with EU - Turks from North can leave their pseudoindependence and back to Republic of Cyprus ;)

In some years - Kosovo Albanians will be in similar situation like Cypriot Turks.

Brilliant. He is absolutely right to be focusing on peace, CNN, The BBC and other western media are going to find it really hard to draw horns on the Serbs in the future, I'm not saying they wont try, but Tadic is making it harder for them.

Here in England there are no positive news stories about Serbs. In fact there are no stories about Serbia. That is until the last few days when the BBC's bogeyman Radovan failed to appear at The Hague. They jumped all over it. A lot of coverage has been given to this. Lots of pictures of widows crying and bad man Radovan. This continues to have the effect of stereotyping all Serbs as evil by association, as there are no positive Serbian stories. I guess the BBC will keep beating this drum while ignoring the plight of Serbs in Kosovo or Krajina. In this way dumbed down public approval of British foreign policy that is anti Serbian and pro anybody in the region that isn't Serbian will continue. Not very clever but it works.

The alignment with Russia and China will really help too. In the future The Brits and the Yanks will even become big Serb fans again because there is nothing they love more than money and the Russians and Chinese will have most of that.

“I hope and I am confident that the decision will be very positive for Serbia. After that, we will be always ready to discuss the future of Kosovo with Priština [Kosovo Albanians].”

To discuss what? I am trying to figure out...) Well Serbia is not trying to talk to Kosovo/a Albanians? What is Serbia doing undermine Kosova and its institutions with every mean. Does Tadic think the Kosovar are stupid? I do not see any single reason for Kosova to talk to Serbia unless Serbia recognises Kosova's independence. Let's wait and see...)

We are not Turks ore Greek.

We are DARDANIANS.
We fought for more then 6000 years, and we will fight fore thousands of year to com.

DARDAN

Is Tadic feeling okej? Hallucinations are not something to take lightly.
(KOSOVARi, 29 October 2009 15:53)

ya it must be that kosovo kush he's been hittin'!

"We are ready to undertake new initiatives, that have not been undertaken from the very beginning. I'm an optimist and hope for a positive response of the ICJ." aka Tadic.

What other ways are left to fight with exept war mr,Tadic?you're trying to demonize Albanians in every way and aspect possible,made up stories like organ traficing,bribing people for false testimonies,outrageus acousations for war crimes to ordinary people,intimidating and using the Kosovo Serbs to undermine the institutions in Kosovo etc...I don't really know what else beside war you can do?
P.S, Zoran,we ( Alb camp ) don't really care what goes on in Serbia,we're just concerned for ourself,remember what happened in the Balcan last time your president was halucinating? that's basically it.

Zoran, are yuo takling of somekind of cold war between Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War?
(Olf, 29 October 2009 18:18)
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You mean do I support a multi-polar world? And the answer is I sure do. As has happened in the past, we benefit from such a scenario as it seems both the East and West are interested in being our friends, just like now.

In fact the whole world will benefit when there is a balance of power. Look at the mess the West has created in the last decade. I'm glad those days are numbered.

Funny when I rea dthe words "regardles of ICJ decision". So, why bother bringing the case and not accepting the advisory opinion???
I am getting tired of reading jokes every single day from Serb politicians.
(Kosova-USA, 29 October 2009 15:25)

Like the K-Albs will conform to ICJs decison!

Like the K-Albs will conform to ICJs decison!
(AdamSRB, 29 October 2009 23:31)
I don't believe the K-Albanians requested an opinion from the ICJ.
It would be one thing to have them render an opinion and then say "I don't agree with it" but to request one and even before they have a chance to hear the arguments, to make statements that they will not place any value on the opinion is beyond ludicrous.

I'm happy to see that Mr Tadic has taken the leading role in this issue. His opinion that bilateral talks are needed regardless of what the rest of the world, or the ICJ has to say is rather refreshing. He has finally opened his eyes, and hopefully the eyes of many more people in power to the reality of coexistance. The only possible long term solution is to require both parties to settle thier differences privately and politically. Ideally, both parties would be willing to acknowledges their troubled pasts with each other, accept that what was done in the past was wrong (and this past is littered with wrongs from both sides) and agree to move forward collectively and prosperously.
I do however find the nostalgic nationalism ripe with venom from the pro-Albanian posters to be neither helpful, open-minded, nor correct in thier interpration. I wonder would they have it that in case ICJ rules in favour of Serbia that Kosovo's establishment completely abondons their goals? Would they have it that if Kosovo win that Serbia abandon it's goals? What if ICJ says nothing of consequence? Then what? Continued limbo? This attitude does not help your brothers and sisters as much as it helps to stroke your own ego and nationalistic pride. Utimately what needs to happen is that both sides talk, discuss and forge a cooperative future together.

And whom might be this mysterious 'world class politician'?

For the rest of the Serb audience: it should be clear to you by now that the UDI has nothing to do economics. You should not expect Albanians to be bribed with passports or a big candy jar.

The Albanian UDI is almost like fulfilling a prophecy. If you think of Kosovo as some kind of Jerusalem, then the Albanians would be the Jews.

if tadic or any serb really think that we albanians will talk with them than you can wait for minimum another 500 years

Olf, why don't you go and dig up Thaci's back yard? I'm sure you'll find many missing persons there. Didn't you realise Albanians were killing their own? You are the one that needs to come out of the box and you may finally find those missing.

Russia and NATO. Are you sure that Serbian people would want to be in the forefront of that Cold War? What is the price that Serbian people are preapred to pay for Milosevic ideas?
(Olf, 29 October 2009 18:18)

As an impartial international in Kosovo, I suggest you to convince your bosses to send a letter to Tadic to ask him the same question you have.

People that went missing during the war are not only in serbia but in the all balkan and you shouldn't be sarcastic with this.
At the end you are worst than the nationalists of either side and the way you play with the truth is simply disgusting!!
With "friends" like you kosovo doesn't need ennemies.

It is obviously interesting to see that as soon as someone talk about, dialogue, peace, long term solutions, the k-a nationalist come out in force pooring their boring every anti-serb hatred song...

And then some are wondering why they are far from being trusted and appreciated in Europe.
If you believe in your piece of land, then start building something positive and eventually people will start respecting you!

Why ask the people what they want? What do they have to do with it? The territory of Kosovo is Serbia. That should be returned to Serbia. If the people living there want to accept that its ok, if not you can always move back to Albania.
(MikeC, 29 October 2009 18:23) ,

Dear MikeC,
You really are not in earth! This was the policy of Millosevic, but I think it did not worked at all!!!!
And you should know my dear that people are important and not the land. Tell me, did you born with on m2 land in your hand? Or can you just imagine that after 100 years all this people who is alive 99.99% will not live, so new generations will come and I am sure that due to other factors they may live in some other part of the world that was never land of their parents.
BTW what the politicians in Serbia are doing, is just a game to go through, they know that what Millosevic did with albanians in Kosovo, made them to lose Kosovo for ever. You serbs if you wanted to keep Kosovo, you should have not cancelled the constituion of 1974, but to give to albanians and hungarians (Vojvodina) the same rights as serbians. But you should have counted then that one day the parlament could have been 50% albanians... take it or leave it?
Happen what happened and today we have Kosovo as independent, good or not good is standing in it's foot, will be grown litle by litle and anyway is not worse than sorrounding countries at all.
Peace to all!

No negotiations, self-determination.

We have nothing to negotiate with you, whom first choice was war and murder. Sorry but no thanks. Go talk to yourself. When K-Alb wanted to talk you ignored us, and than you killed us, and now all of the sudden you want to talk. Too little, too late. We will take our chances on our own, since Serbia has always been a danger to our lives and existence.

We have nothing in common anymore. Our heros are your terrorists and vice versa, everything in Kosovo revolves around an anti-Serbian theme. Serbia was never our motherland, it never acted like it, it never try to be it, it never welcomed us in any way shape or form and it will never be.

Same old useless comments on here except for one by Miles.

Boy was that comment ever the truth. The only time I've ever seen "World News" out of the Balkans here in AUS include pictures of those same crying widows, elderly people etc (of course which which is not too far fetched that they could be pictures of Serbian people) with the big finger pointing towards the Serbs for "genocide" and "war crimes".

It's all getting rather tedious to the point that nobody takes notice of such propaganda anymore. It must really hurt the Western media that in the real world Serbia is such a peaceful and democratic nation.

Well the Swiss, ror any sane people serching for their missing loved ones is not Anti-Serb it is just priority and should be your responsibility too. This is incase yuo want to start changing the image of Serbia in the world. Otherwise, I must say that you are doing a good job at it as it is.

You should start thinking of leaving the box, and advise the Serbian governments to give asnwers to all questions that people of Balkans direct to them. I know that there are to many but hey you have to start somewhere if you want me and others to think different about the Serbia. I know that you cannot change the history, sorry, but you can do what Germans have done after the WWII.

Zoran, I have listened to your likes and doug many gardens and found nothing. Gardens in Serbia are next and I am in no rush, i am sure that there will be results

Swiss, sorry to upset you but you really sound just like any Serbian radical.
I know you dont like my post and you call then anti-serb. The similar post are foud on B92 Serbins language.
If you take this into consideration than for sure you'll brand them something too.

and others to think different about the Serbia. I know that you cannot change the history, sorry, but you can do what Germans have done after the WWII.
(Olf, 30 October 2009 09:24)

Sorry mate, need a translation for the first part of your post... unreadable, as to the second, I don't know what
I should do like the germans did after WWII, if you didn't get it yet, am Swiss as long as Switzerland exists i.e. the 13th century...so, put this in your square head once for all.

I'm for neither side but certainly am part of those who wants the justice done not only in Serbia but in the all Balkans, like you should also be as an international active in kosovo.
However it looks like you are more a sort of ashamed coward not being able to say who exactly you are.

Olf, so why are you only hunting missing K-Albanians? What about missing Serbians? How many of them exist?

Are you sure you're not hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

You realise your comments come across as extreme as some of the ethnic Albanian posters here? Ever thought about balance?

You Albanians are descents of unromanized tribes from albanian mountains.
(Milan, 30 October 2009 14:40)

no they're not! they were brough over by the sicilians during the 14th century... albanians are not indigenous to the balkan penninsula...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIIbO5K_Xs

somewhere around 4 minutes, it's all explained...

"We have nothing to negotiate with you, whom first choice was war and murder."

Ummmm....actually it was the KLA who began the war by murding Serb policemen. To this day I am astounded that we supported the KLA, who was known to have ties with Al Qaeda, and who was on the US State Department's terrorist list as late as 1998!

The final status of Kosovo has solved on 17th February 2008.Serbia is looking to integrate in the EU not in China or Russia.You have to respect the values of the EU, not Russia and China.One of this values is to respect neighbors. Serbia will accept first Kosovo as a state before it get in the EU.Be of that sure!

To: All

Both sides do have to talk on technical issues. Both sides do have to apologize. Both sides have to start fresh and on equal terms.

If both ppl are interested in finding a lastful peace then both ppl have to man up and admit their wrongs and make a pact to never repeat what has happened in the past.

If you truly want to be European (EU/WEST) then forgive and forget and do it for the future generations where each person can grow in peace and under the rule of law where all are treated equally under the law.

Hope the old will die quick and the young generations forget the past and look forward to a bright future together and as equals.

Peace to all....

"Brilliant. He is absolutely right to be focusing on peace, CNN, The BBC and other western media are going to find it really hard to draw horns on the Serbs in the future, I'm not saying they wont try, but Tadic is making it harder for them.

Here in England there are no positive news stories about Serbs. In fact there are no stories about Serbia. That is until the last few days when the BBC's bogeyman Radovan failed to appear at The Hague. They jumped all over it. A lot of coverage has been given to this. Lots of pictures of widows crying and bad man Radovan. This continues to have the effect of stereotyping all Serbs as evil by association, as there are no positive Serbian stories. I guess the BBC will keep beating this drum while ignoring the plight of Serbs in Kosovo or Krajina. In this way dumbed down public approval of British foreign policy that is anti Serbian and pro anybody in the region that isn't Serbian will continue. Not very clever but it works." Miles

How good it is to read a good honest account of what is happening in the UK press here. Hopefully many will read this and start to question the inherently anti Serb press in the UK. Maybe then some will start to look more closely at some of the alleged events over the past 15 yaers and begin to realise that there are always two sides to every story. I live in hope that the UK press will begin to publish some positive stories regarding Serbia. I have visited Serbia on several occasions now and it has completely changed my UK press influenced opinion of the country and of the people. I now take a much more open minded view of Serbia and of the Balkans as a whole and would suggest that more did the same. Tadic appears to me to be a very accomplished and even minded politician. I am embarrased by my country's governments actions in recent years towards Serbia which had no public mandate and on most occasions were carried out against a background of huge political propoganda that bore little or no relation to the truth. I hope that the combination of Serbia's pragmantic and peaceful stance and a more informed opinion of the public at large here in Uk will result in a more balanced stance towards Serbia in the future.

We are not Turks ore Greek.

We are DARDANIANS.
We fought for more then 6000 years, and we will fight fore thousands of year to com.

DARDAN
(Dardan, 30 October 2009 08:20)

Are You Albanian or Aromanian?? Because Dardanians was destroyed by Romans and their remains were ROMANIZED. Roman province of Dardania was fully romanized. There born some of roman emperors - like Justinian. All of them spoke latin language and roman culture was their culture. Descents of romanized Illyrians are Aromanians.

You Albanians are descents of unromanized tribes from albanian mountains.

And serbia should also recognize n.mitrovica.

THe will to negotiate with Albanians requires the will from both parties, don't you agree? Yes but when Serbia had the upper hand they did not negotiate. Serbia took the gun and used it on their neighbors. Any one who didn't see it the Serb way deadly cowardly force was used to further the Serb expansionist nationalist agenda.

From my understanding, the KLA has been killing and doing it's best to destroy Serbia's Kosovo since 1960s, perhaps even earlier. So dont give us this garbage if Serbs negotiated....THEY ARE and CONTINUE TO BE TERRORISTS. Who negotiates with terroists as an example from which to base these discussions? US, ISREAL, RUSSIA, CHINA, SPAIN? NO one, and neither should SERBIA!
(Lenard, 29 October 2009 20:23) I don't know who wrote that comet it must be a fake Serbian Lenard.

Mr. Tadic, Game's over! Get over it once and for all. Kosovo can NOT go back with Serbia!
Try to understand that and maybe you will have a better night's sleep.
This goes to all Serbs too.

Russians have recognized abhazia and s. osetia so they could probably recognize kosovo too and i think serbia should recognize kosovo if we loose ate ICJ but also republik of serpska.

Kosovo will never be recognized as a county they can't even participate at the world cup. Problem is majority of Albanians live in a fairy tale that is composed of propagnda.1244!!!kosovo is serbs land.

The heat is on with ICJ and EU member states are feeling it as they try to lick their old wounds.

There is an old saying "get your own home in order before you start preaching to others how they should run theirs".

kiko says
'If both ppl are interested in finding a lastful peace then both ppl have to man up and admit their wrongs and make a pact to never repeat'

here let me start. Lustful piece? I'm down for that :)
I admit that's my wrong.

but i cant promise not to repeat it :))

The final status of Kosovo has solved on 17th February 2008.Serbia is looking to integrate in the EU not in China or Russia.You have to respect the values of the EU, not Russia and China.One of this values is to respect neighbors. Serbia will accept first Kosovo as a state before it get in the EU.Be of that sure!
(luis, 31 October 2009 15:47)

False reasons. Remember Cyprus. Republic of Cyprus never accepted illegal turkish pseudostate in Northern Cyprus - but today Republic of Cyprus is an EU member. And today - Turks from North are without any perspective ;)

So - probably in some years pseudoindependent Northern Cyprus will reintegrate with Republic of Cyprus.

Kosovo, will never go under Serbian rule again, never, as soon as u realise that,the better will be for Serbs. now the only thing the Serbian goverment can negotiate is? turn around Recognize Kosovo, or? face hard times for the rest of your generations,, simple as that,, there is nothing to negotiate there,

The north, churches and graveyards ( to prevent more desecrations) stays in Serbia, the rest we will discuss.