Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was in Belgrade for a historic visit – the first by a Russian president to Serbia as a sovereign and independent country.
I'll leave the tears of anger for you raso as your dream of Russia usurping Serbian soverignty and annexing the country will never become true!
Its pretty clear Peggy I don't like autocrats and cult of personality, never have, never will. I don't like those that stifle free speech or opposing points of view in the media.
As for the future with Putin and Medvedev let us see who is right.
If you think that I should lick the boots of Putin because of Kosovo think again. I've never brownosed anybody and I'm not starting now. Having said that I won't go out of my way to criticise him either - unless somebody foolishly provokes me.
Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
- Since when criticizing Putin means "spitting at Russia"?
- IMO, it's Putin who is spitting at Russia.
- This is not about my image.
- This was about Medvedev versus Putin.
- It looks, like Medvedev is in BG, not Putin, so what your fuss?
----
Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
The time of 'Comrades' and 'Poglavnik-s' is not over tough. Some rare specimens are both.
cause belgrade is visited by the leader of the free world and not a criminal like biden, or belgrade get´s a statue of europes finest culture?
are you still waiting for a visit of the pope?
"the first (visit) by a Russian president to Serbia as a sovereign and independent country."
Indeed, I congratulated Serbia on finally becoming a sovereign and independent country both after the divorce with Montenegro and after Kosova declared independence (ie, the second time, in 2008), but unfortunately not many posters here appreciated it. But B92 appears to understand, judging by this wording.
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
Without Russian help Kosovo would have a seat in the UN by now so I don't understand where all this is coming from.
I think you should be a little more grateful to both Putin and Medvedev.
BTW, Medvedev has Putin's blessing because without it he would not be the president today. They are in total agreement and I really can't see where you get your idea that there is any competition between the two.
One is only keeping the seat warm for the other.
Messages and signals from today's meetings are pretty straightforward.
Ordinary people of Serbia feel like this friendship is ought to be especially as now a time has come to put aside all ideological disputes that were clouding Russian and Serbian minds during the communist era.
We are getting along very well, it doesn't have to be perfect yet. let's not now put some extreme expectations and get ulcer because Tadic mentioned Kosovo more times than Medvedev, or because they spoke more about business than Kosovo.
I hope though that they tackled the issue of the RS.
... we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting. And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
(szemi, 20 October 2009 18:20)
i thought friscos sonatas were meant to reach people's hearts, not give heart attacks... ;)
”And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good. Plus countless Russians I know”
Who cares what you want ? What Russians d’you know ? Come here and see what we think of Putin-era. There are things we want to change or replace here but in general we don’t want liberals or other West sponsored people come here again to tell us how to destroy our industry our army and our spirit. You have moral right to talk only on behalf of Gordievsky , Kasparov , Kalugin and other traitor Russians but in no case on behalf of those who stayed here to improve our beloved Fatherland.
Didn’t you find another day for your poisoned comments ? Look how happy the two peoples are with the visit ! Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ? Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
"I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians...?"
Brazilskifarmer
Actually the Illyrians and Dacians came to the Balkans 1056 gazillian years before the dinosaurs. A couple of weeks ago archaeologist found dried up heroin from Illyrians/Dacians era. This is proof that albanians, in deed, were here before anyone else.
still waiting for a putin/dodik meeting...
(stariVujadin, 20 October 2009 17:26)
Well a matter of not too long time I guess.However we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting.And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
Thanks for the link, I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians,or they arrived together with the Serbs,Huns,Bulgars and Magyarok?
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
YES.
And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good.
Plus countless Russians I know. But unfortunately it is not a "fancy" thing here from Russians to admit it.
We should not forget to "thank" Eltsin, too - he deserves the biggest "credit" for Putin: Putin was APPOINTED (again: APPOINTED) by Eltsin because Putin promised (and kept the promise!) not to touch Eltsin's family for the illegally accumulated wealth.
As far as his popularity: indeed, Russia did grow stronger and better in his time. I dare to say, not BECAUSE of Putin - but DESPITE of Putin.
Many factors contributed to the positive developments lately - but these would be even better without him.
helicopters are flying over my house!
(ron, 20 October 2009 14:26)
That's OK, nothing unusual. If, however, the original folks who once lived all over Medvedja would freely roam the streets, than I would be more worried.
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
”And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good. Plus countless Russians I know”
Who cares what you want ? What Russians d’you know ? Come here and see what we think of Putin-era. There are things we want to change or replace here but in general we don’t want liberals or other West sponsored people come here again to tell us how to destroy our industry our army and our spirit. You have moral right to talk only on behalf of Gordievsky , Kasparov , Kalugin and other traitor Russians but in no case on behalf of those who stayed here to improve our beloved Fatherland.
Didn’t you find another day for your poisoned comments ? Look how happy the two peoples are with the visit ! Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ? Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
"I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians...?"
Brazilskifarmer
Actually the Illyrians and Dacians came to the Balkans 1056 gazillian years before the dinosaurs. A couple of weeks ago archaeologist found dried up heroin from Illyrians/Dacians era. This is proof that albanians, in deed, were here before anyone else.
still waiting for a putin/dodik meeting...
(stariVujadin, 20 October 2009 17:26)
Well a matter of not too long time I guess.However we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting.And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
... we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting. And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
(szemi, 20 October 2009 18:20)
i thought friscos sonatas were meant to reach people's hearts, not give heart attacks... ;)
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
YES.
And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good.
Plus countless Russians I know. But unfortunately it is not a "fancy" thing here from Russians to admit it.
We should not forget to "thank" Eltsin, too - he deserves the biggest "credit" for Putin: Putin was APPOINTED (again: APPOINTED) by Eltsin because Putin promised (and kept the promise!) not to touch Eltsin's family for the illegally accumulated wealth.
As far as his popularity: indeed, Russia did grow stronger and better in his time. I dare to say, not BECAUSE of Putin - but DESPITE of Putin.
Many factors contributed to the positive developments lately - but these would be even better without him.
Messages and signals from today's meetings are pretty straightforward.
Ordinary people of Serbia feel like this friendship is ought to be especially as now a time has come to put aside all ideological disputes that were clouding Russian and Serbian minds during the communist era.
We are getting along very well, it doesn't have to be perfect yet. let's not now put some extreme expectations and get ulcer because Tadic mentioned Kosovo more times than Medvedev, or because they spoke more about business than Kosovo.
I hope though that they tackled the issue of the RS.
Thanks for the link, I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians,or they arrived together with the Serbs,Huns,Bulgars and Magyarok?
cause belgrade is visited by the leader of the free world and not a criminal like biden, or belgrade get´s a statue of europes finest culture?
are you still waiting for a visit of the pope?
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
Without Russian help Kosovo would have a seat in the UN by now so I don't understand where all this is coming from.
I think you should be a little more grateful to both Putin and Medvedev.
BTW, Medvedev has Putin's blessing because without it he would not be the president today. They are in total agreement and I really can't see where you get your idea that there is any competition between the two.
One is only keeping the seat warm for the other.
I'll leave the tears of anger for you raso as your dream of Russia usurping Serbian soverignty and annexing the country will never become true!
Its pretty clear Peggy I don't like autocrats and cult of personality, never have, never will. I don't like those that stifle free speech or opposing points of view in the media.
As for the future with Putin and Medvedev let us see who is right.
If you think that I should lick the boots of Putin because of Kosovo think again. I've never brownosed anybody and I'm not starting now. Having said that I won't go out of my way to criticise him either - unless somebody foolishly provokes me.
helicopters are flying over my house!
(ron, 20 October 2009 14:26)
That's OK, nothing unusual. If, however, the original folks who once lived all over Medvedja would freely roam the streets, than I would be more worried.
"the first (visit) by a Russian president to Serbia as a sovereign and independent country."
Indeed, I congratulated Serbia on finally becoming a sovereign and independent country both after the divorce with Montenegro and after Kosova declared independence (ie, the second time, in 2008), but unfortunately not many posters here appreciated it. But B92 appears to understand, judging by this wording.
Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
- Since when criticizing Putin means "spitting at Russia"?
- IMO, it's Putin who is spitting at Russia.
- This is not about my image.
- This was about Medvedev versus Putin.
- It looks, like Medvedev is in BG, not Putin, so what your fuss?
----
Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
The time of 'Comrades' and 'Poglavnik-s' is not over tough. Some rare specimens are both.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
YES.
And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good.
Plus countless Russians I know. But unfortunately it is not a "fancy" thing here from Russians to admit it.
We should not forget to "thank" Eltsin, too - he deserves the biggest "credit" for Putin: Putin was APPOINTED (again: APPOINTED) by Eltsin because Putin promised (and kept the promise!) not to touch Eltsin's family for the illegally accumulated wealth.
As far as his popularity: indeed, Russia did grow stronger and better in his time. I dare to say, not BECAUSE of Putin - but DESPITE of Putin.
Many factors contributed to the positive developments lately - but these would be even better without him.
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
”And I, too, want the Putin-era to end for good. Plus countless Russians I know”
Who cares what you want ? What Russians d’you know ? Come here and see what we think of Putin-era. There are things we want to change or replace here but in general we don’t want liberals or other West sponsored people come here again to tell us how to destroy our industry our army and our spirit. You have moral right to talk only on behalf of Gordievsky , Kasparov , Kalugin and other traitor Russians but in no case on behalf of those who stayed here to improve our beloved Fatherland.
Didn’t you find another day for your poisoned comments ? Look how happy the two peoples are with the visit ! Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ? Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
"I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians...?"
Brazilskifarmer
Actually the Illyrians and Dacians came to the Balkans 1056 gazillian years before the dinosaurs. A couple of weeks ago archaeologist found dried up heroin from Illyrians/Dacians era. This is proof that albanians, in deed, were here before anyone else.
Thanks for the link, I wonder if the Balkan Brown Bear were here before the Illyrians and Dacians,or they arrived together with the Serbs,Huns,Bulgars and Magyarok?
helicopters are flying over my house!
(ron, 20 October 2009 14:26)
That's OK, nothing unusual. If, however, the original folks who once lived all over Medvedja would freely roam the streets, than I would be more worried.
cause belgrade is visited by the leader of the free world and not a criminal like biden, or belgrade get´s a statue of europes finest culture?
are you still waiting for a visit of the pope?
"the first (visit) by a Russian president to Serbia as a sovereign and independent country."
Indeed, I congratulated Serbia on finally becoming a sovereign and independent country both after the divorce with Montenegro and after Kosova declared independence (ie, the second time, in 2008), but unfortunately not many posters here appreciated it. But B92 appears to understand, judging by this wording.
I wish Medevedev well and wish him good luck in his forthcoming battle against Putin.
But I don't think he stands a chance. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall?
I bet they spend more time talking about Russian firms buying Serbian ones than they do about kosovo.
(bganon, 20 October 2009 14:56)
Without Russian help Kosovo would have a seat in the UN by now so I don't understand where all this is coming from.
I think you should be a little more grateful to both Putin and Medvedev.
BTW, Medvedev has Putin's blessing because without it he would not be the president today. They are in total agreement and I really can't see where you get your idea that there is any competition between the two.
One is only keeping the seat warm for the other.
I'll leave the tears of anger for you raso as your dream of Russia usurping Serbian soverignty and annexing the country will never become true!
Its pretty clear Peggy I don't like autocrats and cult of personality, never have, never will. I don't like those that stifle free speech or opposing points of view in the media.
As for the future with Putin and Medvedev let us see who is right.
If you think that I should lick the boots of Putin because of Kosovo think again. I've never brownosed anybody and I'm not starting now. Having said that I won't go out of my way to criticise him either - unless somebody foolishly provokes me.
still waiting for a putin/dodik meeting...
(stariVujadin, 20 October 2009 17:26)
Well a matter of not too long time I guess.However we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting.And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
Do you believe that spitting at Russia all the time will change something or will it add to your image ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
- Since when criticizing Putin means "spitting at Russia"?
- IMO, it's Putin who is spitting at Russia.
- This is not about my image.
- This was about Medvedev versus Putin.
- It looks, like Medvedev is in BG, not Putin, so what your fuss?
----
Your time is over. Saakashvili too knows languages so what ?
(Rote Kapelle, 20 October 2009 19:56)
The time of 'Comrades' and 'Poglavnik-s' is not over tough. Some rare specimens are both.
... we will have to read long moralising books sent from frisco on this forum about these two honorable guys in the case of such meeting. And the author himself will be close to a heart attack.
(szemi, 20 October 2009 18:20)
i thought friscos sonatas were meant to reach people's hearts, not give heart attacks... ;)
Messages and signals from today's meetings are pretty straightforward.
Ordinary people of Serbia feel like this friendship is ought to be especially as now a time has come to put aside all ideological disputes that were clouding Russian and Serbian minds during the communist era.
We are getting along very well, it doesn't have to be perfect yet. let's not now put some extreme expectations and get ulcer because Tadic mentioned Kosovo more times than Medvedev, or because they spoke more about business than Kosovo.
I hope though that they tackled the issue of the RS.
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