Croatia to testify for Kosovo at ICJ

And Mesic is wondering why realtions with Serbia are not good! Go figure!

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.

What do ya know, one former Nazi State defending the terrorist actions of another...now that's a surprise, NOT!

Perhaps Thompson needs to schedule a stop over in Tirana?

"Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks."

Do you really think Croatia carries that much weight with the rest of the world? You are grasping at straws.

Croatia a former republic of ex-Yugoslavia will weight more then the US and Russia combined at the hearings. Your voice is one of the most important, thank you Croatia!!

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2009 13:31)

Hey buddy,

you forgot about the 300,000 Serbs who were ethnically cleansed from Krajina and who are to this day, discouraged by Croatia in returning to their homes.

If Croatia starts that argument it will be them checkmated by Belgrade not the other way around. You didnt think that one out kid, huh!

Why are some Albanians on this site so bloody minded and subjective?

You are gonna get the biggest disapppointment in history when the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour. No matter what the US, EU, Japan, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Albania etc, etc, say, there is no getting away from the simple facts that the secession was illegal. What'll be interesting is that when the ICJ rules unambiguously in Serbia's favour, what'll happen next. Will Serbia sue recognising countries, will some countries revoke recognition, how much longer will the UN stay in Kosovo? There'll be a lot of questions that'll need answering. And to all the Albo's who claim that they'll win and no questions need answering - don't bother wasting your time replying. We ALL know you've lost the case (assuming that the ICJ remains totally impartial) and that your terrorist actions won't be rewarded because the question submitted to the ICJ is so simple. It requires a yes or no answer, nothing in between and under the Yugoslav constitution, Kosovo was (legally)a province not a republic so had no right to secession, whatever else happened (like the 1 million Albo's killed, the 5 million displaced, etc,etc).

President Stjepan Mesic, has in the past not only agreed with the Independence of Kosovo, but whilst he was president of Yugoslavia he tried explored avenues to make Kosova a republic. He knows that Kosova does not belong to the Serbs/Slavs!! in an interview given to the Times in 1998 Mesic stated 'The Albanians are the closest kin to the ancient civilisation of the Illyrian people and Dardania the current Kosovo. When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees.

Thus it comes as no surprise to me that President Mesic will send his envoys to support the Independence of Dardania.

What is Croatia going to say? Are they going to say that, yes kosovo was not a federal entity in sfry, yes kosovo albanians were not recognised as a national grouping in sfry and that yes croatia was there at the formation of the badinter report which specifically limited secession from sfry to republics only? I fail to see how this will help Kosovo achieve a victory at ICJ.

Croatia has been on a self destructive course for the past 5 years. Recognizing Kosovo Independence just accelerates their eventual self destruction. They could have used the regional excuse that they were bullied into recognizing Kosovo but no one could do the same to them to also testify for Kosovo thus showing Croatia’s true colors, even Slovenia would not do something so stupid!
Since recognizing Kosovo trade with Serbia in goods has reduced 63% and Serbians contributing to Croatia’s tourism has been reduced by almost 70% combined the Croatians have lost approximately 2 Billion dollars in the past 2 years, a huge amount from a tiny country of just 4.5 Million people.
Croatia will eventually be the first Former Yugoslavian Republic to declare bankruptcy followed by Macedonia. And in return all the Croatians got were endless promises from Germany and the USA of which none of those promises have become reality. Sooner or later the Croatian people will turn on their own Government probably as soon as the pension fund is 100% gone, tax is hiked another 2% or 3% and unemployment reaches 20%, and all of these things may very well happen in 2010!

well then krajina should get full autonomy in Croatia and all Serbs to return there is about 300,000 Serbs in that region and the other 500,000 Serbs should return to krajina ,Croatia and we all could agree thats fair also and because krajina is and was serbian land from history its in the books with proof.

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2009 13:31)

You thing that Croatia can tell anything that the international society dont already know? You thing that Croatia are objective? Wrong, Croatia will bring one of the most subjective opinions against Serbia.

Just for curiosity, which truth are you referring to?

This just goes to show how much current Croatian government values it's friendship with Serbia. It's a regretable dicission that will come to haunt them sooner or later.

"When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees. (Krasniqi't)

-- Then perhaps you would care to explain to me and a lot of other people:

1. Why Albanians have not left as big a mark on the history of the Balkans as Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Croats, and Turks?

2. Why no records were ever mentioned of either Rome of Byzantium making overt efforts at forging alliances with the Albanians, as they did with Serbs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Turks, Arabs, Georgians and Armenians?

3. That there never was a medieval Albanian state along the same context as there were medieval Serbian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and Croatian kingdoms?

4. Why, for all the boast of Albanian nationalists of being the oldest and most native of all civilizations in the Balkans, historians and laymen see no indelible mark left on the landscape of the Balkans as exemplified by Greeks, Turks, Serbs, and Bulgarians, no discernible ruin or landmark that is uncontestibly Albanian, or any efforts by other "lesser" races (Slavs, Greeks) in attempting to appropriate Albanian culture as part of their own?

Methinks your boast is little bit exaggerated.

"The Albanians are the closest kin to the ancient civilisation of the Illyrian people and Dardania the current Kosovo. When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees."
krasniqi


If albanians were on Kosovo soil long before the dinosaur how come you have no proof? How come they have found 3000 year old mummies but nothing from this fictitious illirian culture? You are making up stories you that you can justify stealing Serbian land. It's not working home boy!

I'm glad that Croatia is supporting Kosovo at the ICJ. With Croatia being a former Yugoslav country, it may bare some extra weight.

Well of course Croatia will support Kosovo at ICJ? What did you think they were going to do? Support Serbia, a country that tried to destroy them? Mesic is the only high level official of former Yugoslavia still around and he can offer valuable insights as to what really happen.

Serbs seem so certain they will win the case at ICJ that I am concerned how they will react if they actually loose ( as is assumed). I don't think they have even entertain that thought, which leads me to conclude another round of embassy burning is on books for 2010.

Why some Serbian commentors here are getting annoyed for Croatia to testify in ICJ? Croatia knows former Yugoslavia very well, I would say as good as Serbia. So don't worry from the freedom of speech especially of an independent country.

When are you guys going to understand that since Croatia is supporting us, it should be all Serbia's fault for what they have done? Come on...are you telling us that Serbia deserved to get Kosovo back? Just think what Milosevic did to Kosovo. Don't think in present terms!

"Serbs seem so certain they will win the case at ICJ that I am concerned how they will react if they actually loose ( as is assumed). I don't think they have even entertain that thought, which leads me to conclude another round of embassy burning is on books for 2010.
(BalkanUpdate)

-- And what will you do if the Albanian side "loses"? Tip over more EULEX jeeps in Pristina? Burn another batch of Serbian churches, desecrate another group of Serbian headstones? Use KEK and turn the power off in Gracanica again? Blame it on Milosevic's ghost? I think your own side is far more intoxicated with overexaggerated claims of historical and cultural greatness than the side you deride in your silly comment.

"Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA)

-- I somehow doubt that Croatia has the clout to singlehandedly achieve something that your comrades in Pristina cannot do on their own. But if it makes you sleep better at night thinking what you think, far be from me to ruin your day.

"This will further sour relations between Belgrade and Zagreb. (bganon)

-- It's funny how Croatia's foreign policy is a walking paradox. One group of ministers are desperately attempting to show off Croatia's "European" side, while another group of minsters are struggling to rehabilitate the NDH and everything that comes with it as a part of Croatia's national struggle for survival. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing.

"Croatia, which will be the only country of the former Yugoslavia to take part in the debate, will not say anything new, says the daily. Rather, it will simply repeat its reasons for choosing to recognize Kosovo’s unilateral independence declaration in March 2008, as outlined at the time by President Stjepan Mesić and then Prime Minister Ivo Sanader."

There you have it. Croatia will not say anything new but will regurgitate same old propaganda most of which has already been dismissed.
Why are Croatians willing to look like fools at that hearing is beyond me.

I have never heard such ridiculous comments as from Pejroni and Kosova USA before.
Croatia will carry more weight that US and Russia combined?????
What does it matter if Croatia was part of Yugoslavia once? Why would thier opinion carry any more weight than anyone else's? They were first to break the law themselves when they tried to smuggle arms through Hungarian border just before war broke out.
One crook cannot vouch for another one. Besides, they will be discussing the law not reasons why Crotiaa recognised Kosovo. Solidarity with your former allies during WW2 does not give you points when it comes to matter of law.

This is the price to pay to have the right to lick the EU doors!

This will further sour relations between Belgrade and Zagreb.

Have to say that Zagreb is very amateurish when it comes to diplomacy and international relations - in stark contrast to their success in that field during Jugoslav break up.

And yes it will hurt Zagreb but it will also hurt Belgrade and as somebody that supports peace, it frustrates and angers me.

Go Croatia Go we love you, you're our best friend.

This doesn't surprise me, that another knife in the back is jabbed by our once kin, now predator-like neighbours. Sadly neighbours like this, will gladly and willingly, go on their knees for anyone who will offer them thirty pieces of silver or less.

Croatia?
What do they know about international law? I guess they will talk about their expert abilities to expel 300,000 Serbs, and have a true democratic state that respects it's minorities.

I'm glad that Croatia is supporting Kosovo at the ICJ. With Croatia being a former Yugoslav country, it may bare some extra weight.
(Ian, UK, 14 October 2009 19:58)

No it wont Ian. It will simply show up how pathetic Croatia is by regurgitating the same old arguments and being continually spitefull to Serbia for the sake of it.

If Zagreb starts that game, Belgrade will simply turn around and point to Croatia faliure to resettle and rehabilitate 300,000 Croatian Serbs.

What in the World is going on here?@ Some Serbs here,did u forgot that Croatia was part of "YU",why u guys hate everyone who disagree with you?You started the War with Slovenia (thought minor war,10 days only),then with Croatia 2 years +),with Bosnia (almost 5 years),Kosovo (2 + years war & over 10 years Apartheid)!Do you think that everybody else is wrong...only Serbia is right?I really like to believe that you (some of extremist comments) are minority in Serbia.And yes,i certainly believe that Croatia's opinion at the UN weigh heavier then US or Russian opinion!PS. Croatia was a member of the "so called family" ex-YU,of course their voice will have attention from everyone at the UN...! Lets look forward and leave the past to History Books,we should be able to forgive for the sake of our children's future,as for us here in this virtual war,our past & present was/is poisoned,our future will be affected by our past,so,let's think for our children's future making them their life's better.

there is no need for a UN court or testifies based on lies from fascist countries about serbian territory.
the position of the serbian province kosovo is already written in UN resolution 1244 and UN countries which don't respect that, they can better leave the UN.

The whole world knows the value of the opinion of a country that still has its bridges and streets named after Tudjman and welcomes its guests with billboards of their 'hero' Gotovina.

The whole world knows too that Croatia has a long tradition of choosing the wrong side. The principals of Croatia change overnight when it smells a quick benefit for itself. And did Croatia ever apologize as Tadic did for Serbia, on national television?

In a few more years, there might be an equal situation, in wich the name 'Kosovo' will be changed for 'Istra'. I wonder wich face Croatia shows us then....

Sour grapes from Croatia because the Serbs will not trade with them, that all. Anyway, do you really think that the Serbs would have shared anything with the Croats about Kosovo or anything else – they will only regurgitate the same material that I have read in newspapers or seen on TV.

Also, its brownie points if they want to join the EU.

Hahaha, amazing how ignorant the supposed "intelligent" Croats are: Stefan - I'm sorry to hear you've been living in a cave for the last 20 years so I'll explain the laws of the EU for you in relation to the Serbs. They can and will claim all their lands back, legally, from Croats whether you like it or not. They'll be able to live anywhere in Croatia that they wish and be able to buy as much of Croatia as they wish.

"And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...we're already too busy with...Germans, French, Austrians, English....etc... " I'm sure you remember how to read a Croatian newspaper? Go buy one and then you'll see how the Croat economy is crippled by NO tourists from western Europe. It's called the "credit crunch". I'm sure you'll be able to find some information about it on the internet (assuming you can borrow the money to get a connection).

GE - a good examople would be sport, i.e. tennis, football, basketball, water polo,.....,etc,etc. do I need to carry on?

Croatia's only real world class expertise is fascism. You're right up there with Germany vying for top spot.

THOSE SLOVENJA wanna beez..croation leadership = ljubomorni djavoli or jealous devils ...stop hating ..serbia will always be bigger and beter then croatia ..PERIOD!!

Ex-croatian serbs have nothing to claim....they belong to history....you shouldn't have behave yourself as you did in Vukovar.
And the worst for you is that you even don't have a single pressure tool...within 2011 we're in EU and we're already Nato member...but don't worry, as EU member we'll lobby to have ex-croatian serbs awarded a few dinars to make themselves comfortable in some mobile-homes in the sad serbian cities....

And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...we're already too busy with...Germans, French, Austrians, English....etc...

bye bye

Ex-croatian serbs have nothing to claim....they belong to history....you shouldn't have behave yourself as you did in Vukovar.
And the worst for you is that you even don't have a single pressure tool...within 2011 we're in EU and we're already Nato member...but don't worry, as EU member we'll lobby to have ex-croatian serbs awarded a few dinars to make themselves comfortable in some mobile-homes in the sad serbian cities....

And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...

bye bye
(Stefan, 15 October 2009 12:35)

Did you wear your black shirt and raise your right arm after you wrote that?

I dont see how Serbia talks about Croatia where Croatia has Stronger GDP and almost in EU.

So in any way economical, Political is in Better than Serbia and that with 50% less population.

As per Serbs Not coming to Holidays in Croatia no worry its good think since it shows our standard is Raising and u cant afford it.

TELL me in what way you are better.

Clearly Croatia has no intentions of patching up relations with Serbia. That's fine with us Serbs, but then don't cry to us about your tourism industry suffering because Serbians are holding a grudge against the Croatians. The grudge is there for a reason and acts like this will only further flame those grudges.

From ATM:

"I never read a good comment by you here. In each blog you cant wait to attack anything any Albanian has to say."

-- Really? That's a new one because in almost every post, I attempt to find a compromise between the two sides. Check my other posts about Kosovo being internally divided and needing to reflect those divisions by political institutions. I've never called for the expulsion of Albanians from Kosovo, only a fair deal for both sides. I have no patience for knee-jerk nationalistic statements, if that's what you're getting at.

"Mike I would like to know this from you how do u think u will get Kosovo back only by killing this people..."

-- Huh? What in the world are you talking about? I don't recall saying anything about "killing this people" either in the comment below or in any post I've made. If you're going to critique my opinions, feel free to do so, but please don't put words in my mouth.

From Arti

"Same happened with Greece,are you disputing their heritage too?"

-- No, because there is far more evidence to suggest the historical heritage of the Greeks today is directly linked to those of the Medieval and Classical periods, and no one, scholar or layman, disputes this. In fact, there's only a handful of nations today that can boast of measuring their history in millenia, not centuries: Greeks, Armenians, Chinese, Japanese, Egyptians, Arabs, Ethiopians, to name a few. While the geography and the "name" changed over time, there's direct evidence found in language, artwork, landmarks, intellectualism, and lineage to identify a link between today and the distant past. This is something Albanians have a very difficult time trying to prove, and the main point of my comment is that if this claim of ancient ancestry is supposedly true, one would think this group of people would have made a more pronounced statement in Balkan history, rather than simply being respondants to other nations and civilizations.

So is Croatia going to support an Independent Krajina at the ICJ too? Same exact situation, except Serbs from Krajina spent time in actual death camps and hundreds of thousands were killed, not to mention Krajina was an autonomous province for hundreds and hundreds of years.

Absurd for Croatia to support Kosovo but not Krajina. They better hope the ICJ doesn't rule in favor of Kosovo, as same rules would clearly apply to Krajina.

Whooopppsss, there goes RS too...

RE: Historical Untruths

Slovenia borders were seized by the JNA at the orders of then Vice President Markovic, a Croat in conjunction with General Kadijevic, a Croat.

The JNA barracks in Croatia were surrounded and seized by Croat rebel forces.

Let's be clear on who started the war , Serbia wished to remain within a Yugoslav federation, Croatia, Slovenia and eventually Bosnia did not.

The weight of Croatia within the ICJ hearings have little bearing and in fact is a conflict of interest as Agim Ceku was involved with the attack on Krajina Serbs and then shipped to Kosovo to again incite the Albanians against the Serbs.

Some leaders in Croatia today continue to deny the past including Stipe Mesic who as part of the Yugoslav federation worked to destroy it.

(Mike, 14 October 2009 20:25)
Same happened with Greece,are you disputing their heritage too?
after the fall of the Roman empire the barbarians got the upper hand all over Europe, after that we mostly dealt with Venedik and Napples than with anybody else,and yes there are many historic sites all over Albania from all periods,it confuses people like you because Albania wasn't called Albania as today in the whole Albanian speaking people but different names like Greece.

"There'll be a lot of questions that'll need answering. And to all the Albo's who claim that they'll win and no questions need answering - don't bother wasting your time replying. We ALL know you've lost the case (assuming that the ICJ remains totally impartial)
(Radoslav'


HAHAHAHA all the other pro Serb comments are topled with this one. So you are 1000% sure you will have a great vedict, but you have to use the back up plan on blaming the west for "pressure"??

Truly gold. Just like mini VUK.

If you start with his mentality you have already lost, but there is no alternative hence your extra point on the court ;)

And to the guy that compares eulex 4wheel drives with embassys wich are foreing soil and the rest. Are you intentionaly being wrong or are you due for some educational update?

Bravo Croatia! Go ahead and speak out against a country, which even nowdays does not have egual justice for its minorities. And I have examples to prouve it (unless I get censured for it).

This is the price to pay to have the right to lick the EU doors!
(The Swiss, 14 October 2009 23:36)
Can you imagine what Serbia has to do when the time comes :-)

MIKE

I never read a good comment by you here. In each blog you cant wait to attack anything any Albanian has to say.

I am not Albanian but man the way you speak about them is not nice and it shows why they want their own country.

I am not saying they should or not just saying tone it down a bit.


Mike I would like to know this from you how do u think u will get Kosovo back only by killing this people otherwise i see no one wanting to be in Union or what could be done between Serbia and Kosovo Autonomy less Independence how. I never seen how.


Same for Albanians here do not through inflammatory arguments and not because its Serbian Forum since in world of Free speech and if as they say Serbia is they should welcome your coments here as you theirs,


This is how u can coexist but in the end just my opinion.

Croatia, here are three words to think about: Republic of Krajina

Every time I read the comments here I wonder why are we letting Balkan countries to join EU... You need at least 100 years of evolution to discover the benefits of civilization and education

what rediciluos comments about Croatia's opinion in ICJ, you really want to compare Krajina and Kosovo ? You forgot that Kosovo was contituive part of former Yugoslav federation?! You forgot that Kosovo was populated with a non slavic population called Illyians and later Albanians (as you serbs like to call us "Shipatri"). Wake up!!! You "Serbia" is the only former Yugoslav country "Bosnia and Herzegova" does not count on this that have not recognized Kosovo`s independence yet. Wake up, recognize, Kosovo and get EU membership/

""""Let's be clear on who started the war -> Serbia wished to remain within a Yugoslav federation, Croatia, Slovenia and eventually Bosnia did not. """"

Kostantin, u absolutely right! BUT, u forgot one little minor detail. Serbia wanted to be in charge and control everything!!! now, out of any ethnic context, anyone can explain why would Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia agree with that?
add the ethnic issue to this and u got who started the war!!!
propose slavery to others and call them warlords when they react...??? kinda hypocrisy to me

Personnally, I don't really understand the difference between the situation of Croatia (or Serbia) and Kosovo as regards independance.

In fact, as a matter of law, even Croatia didn't, in theory, have the right to secession from the federal state Yougoslavia but it happens; The Badinter agreement was....an agreement.
It has nothing to do with Internatonal Law. And that time Yugoslavia didn't sue Slovenia or Croatia...

So I think there's logically place to ambiguous statement of ICJ and then to interpretation...

good luck

"we should be able to forgive for the sake of our children's future,as for us here in this virtual war,our past & present was/is poisoned,our future will be affected by our past,so,let's think for our children's future making them their life's better."

common sense,
we are not in the 70ies. the time of hippies is over. Please dont write if u have nothing serious to add except wishful thinking. and common sense, why you are victim of NATO propaganda to think everybody else has always right except Serbia? Try to read some history book to learn its not all black and white..

Stefan,

You poor deluded man to think that all that is being swept under the carpet and all land claims are never going to be settled. There is plenty to settle and the negotiations are continuing even today.

You Croats have spent all the money the EU gave you for reconstruction and they are not giving you another cent. You now have to negotiate a settlement with nothing in the bank and the only way out is to settle with land, not to belong to Croatia but to be handed over to Serbia – it’s too long to explain it to you I doubt if you understand. But its happening and they no tell you Croatians.

I understand what tools are and I can recognise one such as yourself. No little man, you no in EU by 2011, you have to fulfil certain criteria before they even think of doing this. Refugees are one of several criteria. The only thing Croatia will be lobbing is pleading for more aid from the EU to fill ever bigger budget deficits. You no have too many Croats returning to live in that paradise they all stay overseas.

How many Croatian solders in Afghanistan, about 200. Shows world how wealthy Croatia really is. You really see NATO helping you in fighting Croatia’s battles; have a look at your precious NATO members and how many have sent their troops in Afghanistan.

I was recently at the border of Croatia/Serbia and witnessed you wealthy Croatians coming over to Serbia to buy food because there was none in your paradise. I talked to your Croatians and they said that in Croatia the unemployment is 40% and that the only people who have a high living standard are 2% of the population. They also said that they can not afford to travel from Vukovar to Sibenk because its too expensive on the roads.

Croatian radio stated that this year was bad for tourism blaming the world economy. They also said that tourist was down by 20% on last year and last year was not too good either. Croatia must be most wonderful place in world to have high living standard exporting pickled vegetables, vegata and tourism. Perhaps it’s a Vegeta lead economic recovery for Croatia!

I wonder why Montenegro is no going well but perhaps they have no Croat to show them. You enjoy your wealth and no forget to throw some dinars to starving Serbs, but remember refugees have to be compensated either in cash or territory to Serbia otherwise you no join EU.

You can keep mobile vans for your Croatians, plenty will live on street very soon just to show Serbs how wealthy you are.

Bye Bye you too!

@sj

dont tell a crazy wolf that hes walking the wrong path when that wolf is trying to kill you

Croatia should look at krajina and deportation of 500,00 Serbs first before talking about Kosovo. What a joke, instead of improvment they go backwards. Kosovo is Serbia.

Thanks so much to croatia for standing up to democracy and independence for Kosovo/a. there may be confusion in some corners of the world, but throughout the former YU there is little confusion or ambiguity -- kosovo/a has as much right or reason as any other entity, incl serbia, to its independence, and after 100 years of very nasty colonization, much much more.

as always i wish to thank all of our frnds and allies (i am honorary "albo" now) and i very much look forward to the coming "game." it wasn't our choice by any stretch but we take on the challenge, and repeat, "bring it on."

roberto

Weak Serbia, strong Yugoslavia! To that policy thath was practised by communist officials in Titos yugoslavia we have to say: Never again!

As soon as Croatia takes the floor, Krajina should stake unilateral independance from Croatia! It would be awesome, as Mesic will be making arguments for it at the same time...

Croatia has never been this big in all of its history, they stole a lions share in this war, and should keep quiet before people start looking for their pieces back!

To MikeC,
Well Albanians have no prove because was occpied by th Serbian reggime, dont u think thats not enough reason! Another we were throughn out of schools in the end of the last centry don't go any further with evidence before u know the real history cos till just a few years back you were only able to see, hear, know or say what you politicions wanted you to do so!
(Burim, 15 October 2009 01:11)

This is your answer is it?
Lame.

Serbs were under Turkish occupation for centries and were forced to convert to Islam and give up on their heritage but they still managed to leave traces of Serbian existance and culture on that land.

Please don't make a fool of yourself any further.

GE,

Here is the secret to calculating the GDP of a country. You have to take away the aid that the EU gives you every year to fill in the budget black holes and then you do the mathematically equation.

Ask yourself what does Croatia produce to give it a high GDP? Some foodstuffs and tourism - that’s not enough. It’s the EU aid that makes the books look good.

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.

And Mesic is wondering why realtions with Serbia are not good! Go figure!

Croatia a former republic of ex-Yugoslavia will weight more then the US and Russia combined at the hearings. Your voice is one of the most important, thank you Croatia!!

President Stjepan Mesic, has in the past not only agreed with the Independence of Kosovo, but whilst he was president of Yugoslavia he tried explored avenues to make Kosova a republic. He knows that Kosova does not belong to the Serbs/Slavs!! in an interview given to the Times in 1998 Mesic stated 'The Albanians are the closest kin to the ancient civilisation of the Illyrian people and Dardania the current Kosovo. When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees.

Thus it comes as no surprise to me that President Mesic will send his envoys to support the Independence of Dardania.

You are gonna get the biggest disapppointment in history when the ICJ rules in Serbia's favour. No matter what the US, EU, Japan, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Albania etc, etc, say, there is no getting away from the simple facts that the secession was illegal. What'll be interesting is that when the ICJ rules unambiguously in Serbia's favour, what'll happen next. Will Serbia sue recognising countries, will some countries revoke recognition, how much longer will the UN stay in Kosovo? There'll be a lot of questions that'll need answering. And to all the Albo's who claim that they'll win and no questions need answering - don't bother wasting your time replying. We ALL know you've lost the case (assuming that the ICJ remains totally impartial) and that your terrorist actions won't be rewarded because the question submitted to the ICJ is so simple. It requires a yes or no answer, nothing in between and under the Yugoslav constitution, Kosovo was (legally)a province not a republic so had no right to secession, whatever else happened (like the 1 million Albo's killed, the 5 million displaced, etc,etc).

When are you guys going to understand that since Croatia is supporting us, it should be all Serbia's fault for what they have done? Come on...are you telling us that Serbia deserved to get Kosovo back? Just think what Milosevic did to Kosovo. Don't think in present terms!

What do ya know, one former Nazi State defending the terrorist actions of another...now that's a surprise, NOT!

Perhaps Thompson needs to schedule a stop over in Tirana?

"The Albanians are the closest kin to the ancient civilisation of the Illyrian people and Dardania the current Kosovo. When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees."
krasniqi


If albanians were on Kosovo soil long before the dinosaur how come you have no proof? How come they have found 3000 year old mummies but nothing from this fictitious illirian culture? You are making up stories you that you can justify stealing Serbian land. It's not working home boy!

I'm glad that Croatia is supporting Kosovo at the ICJ. With Croatia being a former Yugoslav country, it may bare some extra weight.

Go Croatia Go we love you, you're our best friend.

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2009 13:31)

Hey buddy,

you forgot about the 300,000 Serbs who were ethnically cleansed from Krajina and who are to this day, discouraged by Croatia in returning to their homes.

If Croatia starts that argument it will be them checkmated by Belgrade not the other way around. You didnt think that one out kid, huh!

Why are some Albanians on this site so bloody minded and subjective?

Croatia has been on a self destructive course for the past 5 years. Recognizing Kosovo Independence just accelerates their eventual self destruction. They could have used the regional excuse that they were bullied into recognizing Kosovo but no one could do the same to them to also testify for Kosovo thus showing Croatia’s true colors, even Slovenia would not do something so stupid!
Since recognizing Kosovo trade with Serbia in goods has reduced 63% and Serbians contributing to Croatia’s tourism has been reduced by almost 70% combined the Croatians have lost approximately 2 Billion dollars in the past 2 years, a huge amount from a tiny country of just 4.5 Million people.
Croatia will eventually be the first Former Yugoslavian Republic to declare bankruptcy followed by Macedonia. And in return all the Croatians got were endless promises from Germany and the USA of which none of those promises have become reality. Sooner or later the Croatian people will turn on their own Government probably as soon as the pension fund is 100% gone, tax is hiked another 2% or 3% and unemployment reaches 20%, and all of these things may very well happen in 2010!

"When the Albanians had culture and civilisation the west and Russia where still climbing trees. (Krasniqi't)

-- Then perhaps you would care to explain to me and a lot of other people:

1. Why Albanians have not left as big a mark on the history of the Balkans as Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Croats, and Turks?

2. Why no records were ever mentioned of either Rome of Byzantium making overt efforts at forging alliances with the Albanians, as they did with Serbs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Turks, Arabs, Georgians and Armenians?

3. That there never was a medieval Albanian state along the same context as there were medieval Serbian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and Croatian kingdoms?

4. Why, for all the boast of Albanian nationalists of being the oldest and most native of all civilizations in the Balkans, historians and laymen see no indelible mark left on the landscape of the Balkans as exemplified by Greeks, Turks, Serbs, and Bulgarians, no discernible ruin or landmark that is uncontestibly Albanian, or any efforts by other "lesser" races (Slavs, Greeks) in attempting to appropriate Albanian culture as part of their own?

Methinks your boast is little bit exaggerated.

"Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks."

Do you really think Croatia carries that much weight with the rest of the world? You are grasping at straws.

This just goes to show how much current Croatian government values it's friendship with Serbia. It's a regretable dicission that will come to haunt them sooner or later.

Bravo Croatia! Go ahead and speak out against a country, which even nowdays does not have egual justice for its minorities. And I have examples to prouve it (unless I get censured for it).

well then krajina should get full autonomy in Croatia and all Serbs to return there is about 300,000 Serbs in that region and the other 500,000 Serbs should return to krajina ,Croatia and we all could agree thats fair also and because krajina is and was serbian land from history its in the books with proof.

Why some Serbian commentors here are getting annoyed for Croatia to testify in ICJ? Croatia knows former Yugoslavia very well, I would say as good as Serbia. So don't worry from the freedom of speech especially of an independent country.

"Croatia, which will be the only country of the former Yugoslavia to take part in the debate, will not say anything new, says the daily. Rather, it will simply repeat its reasons for choosing to recognize Kosovo’s unilateral independence declaration in March 2008, as outlined at the time by President Stjepan Mesić and then Prime Minister Ivo Sanader."

There you have it. Croatia will not say anything new but will regurgitate same old propaganda most of which has already been dismissed.
Why are Croatians willing to look like fools at that hearing is beyond me.

I have never heard such ridiculous comments as from Pejroni and Kosova USA before.
Croatia will carry more weight that US and Russia combined?????
What does it matter if Croatia was part of Yugoslavia once? Why would thier opinion carry any more weight than anyone else's? They were first to break the law themselves when they tried to smuggle arms through Hungarian border just before war broke out.
One crook cannot vouch for another one. Besides, they will be discussing the law not reasons why Crotiaa recognised Kosovo. Solidarity with your former allies during WW2 does not give you points when it comes to matter of law.

This will further sour relations between Belgrade and Zagreb.

Have to say that Zagreb is very amateurish when it comes to diplomacy and international relations - in stark contrast to their success in that field during Jugoslav break up.

And yes it will hurt Zagreb but it will also hurt Belgrade and as somebody that supports peace, it frustrates and angers me.

Go Croatia tell them as is at ICJ. Since Croatioa belong to federal entities of former Yugo, they know ins and outs and will speak the truth in front of ICJ Judges. Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA, 14 October 2009 13:31)

You thing that Croatia can tell anything that the international society dont already know? You thing that Croatia are objective? Wrong, Croatia will bring one of the most subjective opinions against Serbia.

Just for curiosity, which truth are you referring to?

"Serbs seem so certain they will win the case at ICJ that I am concerned how they will react if they actually loose ( as is assumed). I don't think they have even entertain that thought, which leads me to conclude another round of embassy burning is on books for 2010.
(BalkanUpdate)

-- And what will you do if the Albanian side "loses"? Tip over more EULEX jeeps in Pristina? Burn another batch of Serbian churches, desecrate another group of Serbian headstones? Use KEK and turn the power off in Gracanica again? Blame it on Milosevic's ghost? I think your own side is far more intoxicated with overexaggerated claims of historical and cultural greatness than the side you deride in your silly comment.

This doesn't surprise me, that another knife in the back is jabbed by our once kin, now predator-like neighbours. Sadly neighbours like this, will gladly and willingly, go on their knees for anyone who will offer them thirty pieces of silver or less.

What in the World is going on here?@ Some Serbs here,did u forgot that Croatia was part of "YU",why u guys hate everyone who disagree with you?You started the War with Slovenia (thought minor war,10 days only),then with Croatia 2 years +),with Bosnia (almost 5 years),Kosovo (2 + years war & over 10 years Apartheid)!Do you think that everybody else is wrong...only Serbia is right?I really like to believe that you (some of extremist comments) are minority in Serbia.And yes,i certainly believe that Croatia's opinion at the UN weigh heavier then US or Russian opinion!PS. Croatia was a member of the "so called family" ex-YU,of course their voice will have attention from everyone at the UN...! Lets look forward and leave the past to History Books,we should be able to forgive for the sake of our children's future,as for us here in this virtual war,our past & present was/is poisoned,our future will be affected by our past,so,let's think for our children's future making them their life's better.

What is Croatia going to say? Are they going to say that, yes kosovo was not a federal entity in sfry, yes kosovo albanians were not recognised as a national grouping in sfry and that yes croatia was there at the formation of the badinter report which specifically limited secession from sfry to republics only? I fail to see how this will help Kosovo achieve a victory at ICJ.

Well of course Croatia will support Kosovo at ICJ? What did you think they were going to do? Support Serbia, a country that tried to destroy them? Mesic is the only high level official of former Yugoslavia still around and he can offer valuable insights as to what really happen.

Serbs seem so certain they will win the case at ICJ that I am concerned how they will react if they actually loose ( as is assumed). I don't think they have even entertain that thought, which leads me to conclude another round of embassy burning is on books for 2010.

Ex-croatian serbs have nothing to claim....they belong to history....you shouldn't have behave yourself as you did in Vukovar.
And the worst for you is that you even don't have a single pressure tool...within 2011 we're in EU and we're already Nato member...but don't worry, as EU member we'll lobby to have ex-croatian serbs awarded a few dinars to make themselves comfortable in some mobile-homes in the sad serbian cities....

And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...we're already too busy with...Germans, French, Austrians, English....etc...

bye bye

THOSE SLOVENJA wanna beez..croation leadership = ljubomorni djavoli or jealous devils ...stop hating ..serbia will always be bigger and beter then croatia ..PERIOD!!

This is the price to pay to have the right to lick the EU doors!
(The Swiss, 14 October 2009 23:36)
Can you imagine what Serbia has to do when the time comes :-)

Every time I read the comments here I wonder why are we letting Balkan countries to join EU... You need at least 100 years of evolution to discover the benefits of civilization and education

"Serbia will get check mate when Croatia speaks.
(Kosova-USA)

-- I somehow doubt that Croatia has the clout to singlehandedly achieve something that your comrades in Pristina cannot do on their own. But if it makes you sleep better at night thinking what you think, far be from me to ruin your day.

"This will further sour relations between Belgrade and Zagreb. (bganon)

-- It's funny how Croatia's foreign policy is a walking paradox. One group of ministers are desperately attempting to show off Croatia's "European" side, while another group of minsters are struggling to rehabilitate the NDH and everything that comes with it as a part of Croatia's national struggle for survival. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing.

This is the price to pay to have the right to lick the EU doors!

"There'll be a lot of questions that'll need answering. And to all the Albo's who claim that they'll win and no questions need answering - don't bother wasting your time replying. We ALL know you've lost the case (assuming that the ICJ remains totally impartial)
(Radoslav'


HAHAHAHA all the other pro Serb comments are topled with this one. So you are 1000% sure you will have a great vedict, but you have to use the back up plan on blaming the west for "pressure"??

Truly gold. Just like mini VUK.

If you start with his mentality you have already lost, but there is no alternative hence your extra point on the court ;)

And to the guy that compares eulex 4wheel drives with embassys wich are foreing soil and the rest. Are you intentionaly being wrong or are you due for some educational update?

Croatia?
What do they know about international law? I guess they will talk about their expert abilities to expel 300,000 Serbs, and have a true democratic state that respects it's minorities.

there is no need for a UN court or testifies based on lies from fascist countries about serbian territory.
the position of the serbian province kosovo is already written in UN resolution 1244 and UN countries which don't respect that, they can better leave the UN.

MIKE

I never read a good comment by you here. In each blog you cant wait to attack anything any Albanian has to say.

I am not Albanian but man the way you speak about them is not nice and it shows why they want their own country.

I am not saying they should or not just saying tone it down a bit.


Mike I would like to know this from you how do u think u will get Kosovo back only by killing this people otherwise i see no one wanting to be in Union or what could be done between Serbia and Kosovo Autonomy less Independence how. I never seen how.


Same for Albanians here do not through inflammatory arguments and not because its Serbian Forum since in world of Free speech and if as they say Serbia is they should welcome your coments here as you theirs,


This is how u can coexist but in the end just my opinion.

The whole world knows the value of the opinion of a country that still has its bridges and streets named after Tudjman and welcomes its guests with billboards of their 'hero' Gotovina.

The whole world knows too that Croatia has a long tradition of choosing the wrong side. The principals of Croatia change overnight when it smells a quick benefit for itself. And did Croatia ever apologize as Tadic did for Serbia, on national television?

In a few more years, there might be an equal situation, in wich the name 'Kosovo' will be changed for 'Istra'. I wonder wich face Croatia shows us then....

I dont see how Serbia talks about Croatia where Croatia has Stronger GDP and almost in EU.

So in any way economical, Political is in Better than Serbia and that with 50% less population.

As per Serbs Not coming to Holidays in Croatia no worry its good think since it shows our standard is Raising and u cant afford it.

TELL me in what way you are better.

what rediciluos comments about Croatia's opinion in ICJ, you really want to compare Krajina and Kosovo ? You forgot that Kosovo was contituive part of former Yugoslav federation?! You forgot that Kosovo was populated with a non slavic population called Illyians and later Albanians (as you serbs like to call us "Shipatri"). Wake up!!! You "Serbia" is the only former Yugoslav country "Bosnia and Herzegova" does not count on this that have not recognized Kosovo`s independence yet. Wake up, recognize, Kosovo and get EU membership/

I'm glad that Croatia is supporting Kosovo at the ICJ. With Croatia being a former Yugoslav country, it may bare some extra weight.
(Ian, UK, 14 October 2009 19:58)

No it wont Ian. It will simply show up how pathetic Croatia is by regurgitating the same old arguments and being continually spitefull to Serbia for the sake of it.

If Zagreb starts that game, Belgrade will simply turn around and point to Croatia faliure to resettle and rehabilitate 300,000 Croatian Serbs.

Hahaha, amazing how ignorant the supposed "intelligent" Croats are: Stefan - I'm sorry to hear you've been living in a cave for the last 20 years so I'll explain the laws of the EU for you in relation to the Serbs. They can and will claim all their lands back, legally, from Croats whether you like it or not. They'll be able to live anywhere in Croatia that they wish and be able to buy as much of Croatia as they wish.

"And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...we're already too busy with...Germans, French, Austrians, English....etc... " I'm sure you remember how to read a Croatian newspaper? Go buy one and then you'll see how the Croat economy is crippled by NO tourists from western Europe. It's called the "credit crunch". I'm sure you'll be able to find some information about it on the internet (assuming you can borrow the money to get a connection).

GE - a good examople would be sport, i.e. tennis, football, basketball, water polo,.....,etc,etc. do I need to carry on?

Croatia's only real world class expertise is fascism. You're right up there with Germany vying for top spot.

Personnally, I don't really understand the difference between the situation of Croatia (or Serbia) and Kosovo as regards independance.

In fact, as a matter of law, even Croatia didn't, in theory, have the right to secession from the federal state Yougoslavia but it happens; The Badinter agreement was....an agreement.
It has nothing to do with Internatonal Law. And that time Yugoslavia didn't sue Slovenia or Croatia...

So I think there's logically place to ambiguous statement of ICJ and then to interpretation...

good luck

(Mike, 14 October 2009 20:25)
Same happened with Greece,are you disputing their heritage too?
after the fall of the Roman empire the barbarians got the upper hand all over Europe, after that we mostly dealt with Venedik and Napples than with anybody else,and yes there are many historic sites all over Albania from all periods,it confuses people like you because Albania wasn't called Albania as today in the whole Albanian speaking people but different names like Greece.

From ATM:

"I never read a good comment by you here. In each blog you cant wait to attack anything any Albanian has to say."

-- Really? That's a new one because in almost every post, I attempt to find a compromise between the two sides. Check my other posts about Kosovo being internally divided and needing to reflect those divisions by political institutions. I've never called for the expulsion of Albanians from Kosovo, only a fair deal for both sides. I have no patience for knee-jerk nationalistic statements, if that's what you're getting at.

"Mike I would like to know this from you how do u think u will get Kosovo back only by killing this people..."

-- Huh? What in the world are you talking about? I don't recall saying anything about "killing this people" either in the comment below or in any post I've made. If you're going to critique my opinions, feel free to do so, but please don't put words in my mouth.

From Arti

"Same happened with Greece,are you disputing their heritage too?"

-- No, because there is far more evidence to suggest the historical heritage of the Greeks today is directly linked to those of the Medieval and Classical periods, and no one, scholar or layman, disputes this. In fact, there's only a handful of nations today that can boast of measuring their history in millenia, not centuries: Greeks, Armenians, Chinese, Japanese, Egyptians, Arabs, Ethiopians, to name a few. While the geography and the "name" changed over time, there's direct evidence found in language, artwork, landmarks, intellectualism, and lineage to identify a link between today and the distant past. This is something Albanians have a very difficult time trying to prove, and the main point of my comment is that if this claim of ancient ancestry is supposedly true, one would think this group of people would have made a more pronounced statement in Balkan history, rather than simply being respondants to other nations and civilizations.

""""Let's be clear on who started the war -> Serbia wished to remain within a Yugoslav federation, Croatia, Slovenia and eventually Bosnia did not. """"

Kostantin, u absolutely right! BUT, u forgot one little minor detail. Serbia wanted to be in charge and control everything!!! now, out of any ethnic context, anyone can explain why would Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia agree with that?
add the ethnic issue to this and u got who started the war!!!
propose slavery to others and call them warlords when they react...??? kinda hypocrisy to me

Clearly Croatia has no intentions of patching up relations with Serbia. That's fine with us Serbs, but then don't cry to us about your tourism industry suffering because Serbians are holding a grudge against the Croatians. The grudge is there for a reason and acts like this will only further flame those grudges.

So is Croatia going to support an Independent Krajina at the ICJ too? Same exact situation, except Serbs from Krajina spent time in actual death camps and hundreds of thousands were killed, not to mention Krajina was an autonomous province for hundreds and hundreds of years.

Absurd for Croatia to support Kosovo but not Krajina. They better hope the ICJ doesn't rule in favor of Kosovo, as same rules would clearly apply to Krajina.

Whooopppsss, there goes RS too...

Croatia, here are three words to think about: Republic of Krajina

Ex-croatian serbs have nothing to claim....they belong to history....you shouldn't have behave yourself as you did in Vukovar.
And the worst for you is that you even don't have a single pressure tool...within 2011 we're in EU and we're already Nato member...but don't worry, as EU member we'll lobby to have ex-croatian serbs awarded a few dinars to make themselves comfortable in some mobile-homes in the sad serbian cities....

And as far serbian tourists are concerned...ahhahahaa keep them in Serbia...they're starving to death...

bye bye
(Stefan, 15 October 2009 12:35)

Did you wear your black shirt and raise your right arm after you wrote that?

RE: Historical Untruths

Slovenia borders were seized by the JNA at the orders of then Vice President Markovic, a Croat in conjunction with General Kadijevic, a Croat.

The JNA barracks in Croatia were surrounded and seized by Croat rebel forces.

Let's be clear on who started the war , Serbia wished to remain within a Yugoslav federation, Croatia, Slovenia and eventually Bosnia did not.

The weight of Croatia within the ICJ hearings have little bearing and in fact is a conflict of interest as Agim Ceku was involved with the attack on Krajina Serbs and then shipped to Kosovo to again incite the Albanians against the Serbs.

Some leaders in Croatia today continue to deny the past including Stipe Mesic who as part of the Yugoslav federation worked to destroy it.

Stefan,

You poor deluded man to think that all that is being swept under the carpet and all land claims are never going to be settled. There is plenty to settle and the negotiations are continuing even today.

You Croats have spent all the money the EU gave you for reconstruction and they are not giving you another cent. You now have to negotiate a settlement with nothing in the bank and the only way out is to settle with land, not to belong to Croatia but to be handed over to Serbia – it’s too long to explain it to you I doubt if you understand. But its happening and they no tell you Croatians.

I understand what tools are and I can recognise one such as yourself. No little man, you no in EU by 2011, you have to fulfil certain criteria before they even think of doing this. Refugees are one of several criteria. The only thing Croatia will be lobbing is pleading for more aid from the EU to fill ever bigger budget deficits. You no have too many Croats returning to live in that paradise they all stay overseas.

How many Croatian solders in Afghanistan, about 200. Shows world how wealthy Croatia really is. You really see NATO helping you in fighting Croatia’s battles; have a look at your precious NATO members and how many have sent their troops in Afghanistan.

I was recently at the border of Croatia/Serbia and witnessed you wealthy Croatians coming over to Serbia to buy food because there was none in your paradise. I talked to your Croatians and they said that in Croatia the unemployment is 40% and that the only people who have a high living standard are 2% of the population. They also said that they can not afford to travel from Vukovar to Sibenk because its too expensive on the roads.

Croatian radio stated that this year was bad for tourism blaming the world economy. They also said that tourist was down by 20% on last year and last year was not too good either. Croatia must be most wonderful place in world to have high living standard exporting pickled vegetables, vegata and tourism. Perhaps it’s a Vegeta lead economic recovery for Croatia!

I wonder why Montenegro is no going well but perhaps they have no Croat to show them. You enjoy your wealth and no forget to throw some dinars to starving Serbs, but remember refugees have to be compensated either in cash or territory to Serbia otherwise you no join EU.

You can keep mobile vans for your Croatians, plenty will live on street very soon just to show Serbs how wealthy you are.

Bye Bye you too!

"we should be able to forgive for the sake of our children's future,as for us here in this virtual war,our past & present was/is poisoned,our future will be affected by our past,so,let's think for our children's future making them their life's better."

common sense,
we are not in the 70ies. the time of hippies is over. Please dont write if u have nothing serious to add except wishful thinking. and common sense, why you are victim of NATO propaganda to think everybody else has always right except Serbia? Try to read some history book to learn its not all black and white..

Sour grapes from Croatia because the Serbs will not trade with them, that all. Anyway, do you really think that the Serbs would have shared anything with the Croats about Kosovo or anything else – they will only regurgitate the same material that I have read in newspapers or seen on TV.

Also, its brownie points if they want to join the EU.

Thanks so much to croatia for standing up to democracy and independence for Kosovo/a. there may be confusion in some corners of the world, but throughout the former YU there is little confusion or ambiguity -- kosovo/a has as much right or reason as any other entity, incl serbia, to its independence, and after 100 years of very nasty colonization, much much more.

as always i wish to thank all of our frnds and allies (i am honorary "albo" now) and i very much look forward to the coming "game." it wasn't our choice by any stretch but we take on the challenge, and repeat, "bring it on."

roberto

@sj

dont tell a crazy wolf that hes walking the wrong path when that wolf is trying to kill you

Weak Serbia, strong Yugoslavia! To that policy thath was practised by communist officials in Titos yugoslavia we have to say: Never again!

As soon as Croatia takes the floor, Krajina should stake unilateral independance from Croatia! It would be awesome, as Mesic will be making arguments for it at the same time...

Croatia has never been this big in all of its history, they stole a lions share in this war, and should keep quiet before people start looking for their pieces back!

To MikeC,
Well Albanians have no prove because was occpied by th Serbian reggime, dont u think thats not enough reason! Another we were throughn out of schools in the end of the last centry don't go any further with evidence before u know the real history cos till just a few years back you were only able to see, hear, know or say what you politicions wanted you to do so!
(Burim, 15 October 2009 01:11)

This is your answer is it?
Lame.

Serbs were under Turkish occupation for centries and were forced to convert to Islam and give up on their heritage but they still managed to leave traces of Serbian existance and culture on that land.

Please don't make a fool of yourself any further.

Croatia should look at krajina and deportation of 500,00 Serbs first before talking about Kosovo. What a joke, instead of improvment they go backwards. Kosovo is Serbia.

GE,

Here is the secret to calculating the GDP of a country. You have to take away the aid that the EU gives you every year to fill in the budget black holes and then you do the mathematically equation.

Ask yourself what does Croatia produce to give it a high GDP? Some foodstuffs and tourism - that’s not enough. It’s the EU aid that makes the books look good.