Serbia to get "first pro-Russian party"

Look, in a weakened moment of too much rakija at the local kafana, even I could appreciate the Serbo-Russian "brotherhood", but let's not get carried away here.

With such ideas the Illyrian land inhabitants will have days numbered, and leaving the land to the orignial owner, The Albanians.

Time is on our side.
(PRN, 13 October 2009 15:18)

I had impression, the original owners were Brown Balkan Bears of Medvedja. So you need to argue with them, not Serbs. Ask them to come, they will be glad to, any time you want (or don't want).

All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything.

We should be part of Russia. That country knows how to deal with secession movements. Totally squashed chechnyan rebels. It's a good example for what will come to the KLA and its remnants soon.

In a word - Madness. As much as Serbia appreciates Russia's help in denying independence to Kosovo, that is not a justifiable excuse to become part of the Russian federation. Serbia should, and needs, good relations with Russia, the EU USA and Chiona predominantly as these are the worlds major powers. Taking sides to the exclusion of all others is nuts. Serbia must develop better relations with everyone whilst also fighting to ensure Kosovo stays within Serbia.

Listen, if, under the current and most certainly forthcoming western puppet regime in belgrade, "our" goal is to be anschlussed into the €USSR, than we are nothing more than a "sector" or at best a under developed "region" of cheap labour and outsourced assets for Brussels. If we on the other hand are permitted to a fair choise in the election, than becoming a russian oblast or autonomous region with our best friends would be the best for all of us, security, nukes for protection against IMF & western terror bombing and part of russias enormous wealth in terms of money.

I assume very soon we are going to hear other parties have just been established called " My Egypt, My Venezuela, My Cuba, My Romania, etc..."

Hey ho another political party wants its place in a patriotic government!

Somehow I don't think that SRS, SNS and DSS will be very happy as this party can only lessen its support.

Another reason why Serbia must balance between the East and West. If it leans to much to the West then the demands to join the East get stronger (and vice versa). Serbia must keep the balance right and stay militarily neutral to prosper enormously.

bganon, I don't think SNS or DSS will fear this. DSS isn't as Russophile as it's critics like to claim. SNS has nothing to fear from such a small formation, I mean it has made pro-EU statements its support never fell.

This is more of a threat to the SRS. They consist of the most radical russophiles, called for union with Russia many times in the last 15 years. Honestly, their support consists of Obraz and most extreme Russophiles.

If this "party" can participate in elections the Radicals could fall below the 5% threshold.

The idea of Serbia being in between the west and the east is a cold war idea, and it is DEAD. It no longer exists. You are either in the global system (globalization, capitalism, etc.)...or you are not.
Its as simple as that.
And Russia is one of those states, along with Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, etc...which all seem to be fighting this global system, and are trying to bring back the good old days where national governments ruled the world, as opposed to today's corporations, and economies ruling the world.
Serbia has a choice, join the rest of the world, and properly plug itself into this global system, and begin functioning like a normal state, or join 'mother Russia' in a useless struggle against this global system, and end up as a dysfunctional state that is isolated from the rest of the world.
Serbia cannot afford to be idealistic. Only realistic.

I have a feeling these guys won't be going very far. They might provide free entertainment during electoral campaigns though.
(Ment, 13 October 2009 16:19)

The local mood in Southern Serbia can be actually more pro-Russian than in bigger cities. But at least it's more genuine than the opportunist "pro-American" mood around Bill Clinton Blvd. I have my doubts about the later one. They know about USA much less, than Serbs about Russia.

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Look, in a weakened moment of too much rakija at the local kafana, even I could appreciate the Serbo-Russian "brotherhood", but let's not get carried away here.
(Mike, 13 October 2009 16:12)

On popular level it is actually much bigger than in the politics. There (in the politics) it always smells as politics.

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I assume very soon we are going to hear other parties have just been established called " My Egypt, My Venezuela, My Cuba, My Romania, etc..."
(Kosova-USA, 13 October 2009 15:00)

Probably not after "My Greece", "My New Zealand", "My Spain", "My Argentina", "My Singapore" etc

Sign me up!

We are Russian descendants, it's unbelievable how close the Ukranian language (Old Russian) is to Serbian.
Just realised this thanks to my Ukranian Co-worker.
The bombing of Serbia, the theft of Kosovo would of never happened if we had a Pro Russian party at the helm. Not only that but we wouldnt of lost Kraina and the whole of Bosnia would be under Serb control. USA/EU would of had to negotiate.
We would also have made heaps of $$ thanks to EU's need for energy resources.
Putin all the way!
Don't mess with mother Russia or you'll end up like Georgia :)

I have a feeling these guys won't be going very far. They might provide free entertainment during electoral campaigns though.

My Russia party? Sounds strange it would be as strange as my EU or my U.S. party. Then again maybe not so many Serbs are infatuated and are love sick with Russia they would give anything to be in a relationship with Russia.

This is a dumb title. Like saying "Kosovars get their pro-Albanian party."

Serbia and Russia have the same roots and eventually will unify.

This is anticipated and a good news for the Balkans because the WEST will keep an even closer watch on Slavic invadors, until eventually they disappear from the invaded lands held for over 13 centuries.

With such ideas the Illyrian land inhabitants will have days numbered, and leaving the land to the orignial owner, The Albanians.

Time is on our side.

The idea that Serbs and Russians are brothers is only true with some culture. The Serbs as well as the Croats are what we call a Dinaric People. There are no Dinarics is Russia. We are a group among ourselves.

oh, boy.
go ahead please, join with Russia ;-)

Another reason why Serbia must balance between the East and West. If it leans too much to the West then the demands to join the East get stronger (and vice versa). Serbia must keep the balance right and stay militarily neutral to prosper enormously.
(Zoran, 13 October 2009 17:31)

Right on Zoran. Serbia must carefully balance between both sides, i.e. No EU and no Russia. In saying that, Mr Isakovic's proposal sounds like a right laugh.

Maybe I can set up a 'My Slovenia' party here in Serbia to unite us Serb -Slovenes to Slovenia. Ah to hell with it. While we are at it why not a 'My Hungary', 'My Slovakia', 'My Czechia', 'My Romania', 'My Bosnia', 'My Makedonija', 'My Albania', 'My Croatia', 'My Roma' - for the Gypsies. Have I left anyone out? ah yes the Montenegrins.

This will be fun :)

You spend much time commenting this: it's easy, just a word: "pathetic"

This is a joke, right?

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.
(albi, 14 October 2009 14:23)


Would that be lakewood Ohio??
Also please explain what the meaning of "Kosova" is. It's a stolen word that has zero meaning in the nomadic language of albanians.

There is nothing wrong about it,in the end is ,,Sense of Place'' and if they feel that they belong to Russia then thats fair enough,them people feel that that where their roots are. My grandfather left balkans 80years ago but he still feels that thats his home and where he belongs.

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.

It used to be a nice country, but will Serbia become the new Ukraine ? Sad !!!

This is exactly what the world knows Balkan people for, being an underdog to the others.

This is kind of joke, a party whose platform is going to be to unite with Russia in the 21 century, while Serbia and Europe are getting closer and closer signing treaties and agreements.

It will be interesting to see whether they even get enough signatures to get registered as a party or even get representation in the Parliament.

I don't understand how Serbians can be so naive and stubborn. It's like "I'm pro-Russia = I'm anti-EU and anti-USA". As far as I know, Russia has economical agreements with both EU and USA, and an intense bilateral commerce.

You are just too emotive...

gubernija yes, us-satelite/eu-member no ...

boy that was about time to found a party that doesn´t wish to unite with russian federation, but is actively working on it ...

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.
(albi, 14 October 2009 14:23)

Americans toponyms are full of old native Indians names. E.g. "Ohio" from the Seneca word "ohi:yo’", "Mississippi"from the Ojibwe word "misi-ziibi" etc. In Kosovo - is very small number of albanian names.

Places like "Lakewood" are names of NEW seetlemments created by the Americans on the territories where were ANY Indians (becouse they were expelled, killed etc.). Settlements created on places where were old Indian villages have mostly old indian names e.g. Miami - from indian tribe Mayaimi, Manhattan from Lenape "Manna-hata" etc.

PS. In Poland we have some villages with name "Kosowo" and in polish "Kosovo Polje" mean "Kosowe Pole" - very similar to serbian.

Mike: Kosova means nothing in ALbanian. They only put the 'a' on the end to differentiate it from the correct Kosovo. It has only been in use since about the 1950's by Albanian separatists. The problem is that it means nothing and they got it mixed up with a tribe called 'Kosova' in West kenya.

You know ,I love this story's keep remind me that tells ...HEY YOUR BACK HOME IS RUSSIA FROM THERE SERBIANS COME FROM in 7 century in to balkan nothing excited here..

Probably another Russian ploy to get Serbian assets at a bargain price!! Just like they did with Serbia's gas & oil companies... Anyway, the crooks in RS wouldn't give up their positions of power to have their so-called state unify with Serbia, why would Sebia sacrifice its own sovereignty to be swalled up by Russia? It won't get them Kosovo back.. Russia has practically accepted its independance recognising South Ossetia.

Ante
Probably another Russian ploy to get Serbian assets at a bargain price!! Just like they did with Serbia's gas & oil companies... Anyway, the crooks in RS wouldn't give up their positions of power to have their so-called state unify with Serbia, why would Sebia sacrifice its own sovereignty to be swalled up by Russia? It won't get them Kosovo back.. Russia has practically accepted its independance recognising South Ossetia.

Y u care what this man doing? It's not like he's forcing u to support his party so don't bad mouth him. So what if they sold NIS at a bargain price, Russia's Serbia only ally pretty much. I would have given it to them for free to just have their support. Besides Serbia privatized many more companies to EU nations for bargain too and thats ok? Crooks in RS? What about Kosovo, what do u call that? A entity that runs on Drug trafficing and prostitution is based on real democrats. Grow up man. Serbia is finally not doing everything the West tells them which u should be grateful for if ur Serbian and if ur not, i dono y ur commenting. So what ur saying is America has practically recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia because they recognized Kosovo? Your not making any sense man.

Serbia and Russia have the same roots and eventually will unify.

This is anticipated and a good news for the Balkans because the WEST will keep an even closer watch on Slavic invadors, until eventually they disappear from the invaded lands held for over 13 centuries.

With such ideas the Illyrian land inhabitants will have days numbered, and leaving the land to the orignial owner, The Albanians.

Time is on our side.

I assume very soon we are going to hear other parties have just been established called " My Egypt, My Venezuela, My Cuba, My Romania, etc..."

We should be part of Russia. That country knows how to deal with secession movements. Totally squashed chechnyan rebels. It's a good example for what will come to the KLA and its remnants soon.

This is a dumb title. Like saying "Kosovars get their pro-Albanian party."

My Russia party? Sounds strange it would be as strange as my EU or my U.S. party. Then again maybe not so many Serbs are infatuated and are love sick with Russia they would give anything to be in a relationship with Russia.

In a word - Madness. As much as Serbia appreciates Russia's help in denying independence to Kosovo, that is not a justifiable excuse to become part of the Russian federation. Serbia should, and needs, good relations with Russia, the EU USA and Chiona predominantly as these are the worlds major powers. Taking sides to the exclusion of all others is nuts. Serbia must develop better relations with everyone whilst also fighting to ensure Kosovo stays within Serbia.

I have a feeling these guys won't be going very far. They might provide free entertainment during electoral campaigns though.

Sign me up!

We are Russian descendants, it's unbelievable how close the Ukranian language (Old Russian) is to Serbian.
Just realised this thanks to my Ukranian Co-worker.
The bombing of Serbia, the theft of Kosovo would of never happened if we had a Pro Russian party at the helm. Not only that but we wouldnt of lost Kraina and the whole of Bosnia would be under Serb control. USA/EU would of had to negotiate.
We would also have made heaps of $$ thanks to EU's need for energy resources.
Putin all the way!
Don't mess with mother Russia or you'll end up like Georgia :)

The idea of Serbia being in between the west and the east is a cold war idea, and it is DEAD. It no longer exists. You are either in the global system (globalization, capitalism, etc.)...or you are not.
Its as simple as that.
And Russia is one of those states, along with Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, etc...which all seem to be fighting this global system, and are trying to bring back the good old days where national governments ruled the world, as opposed to today's corporations, and economies ruling the world.
Serbia has a choice, join the rest of the world, and properly plug itself into this global system, and begin functioning like a normal state, or join 'mother Russia' in a useless struggle against this global system, and end up as a dysfunctional state that is isolated from the rest of the world.
Serbia cannot afford to be idealistic. Only realistic.

Hey ho another political party wants its place in a patriotic government!

Somehow I don't think that SRS, SNS and DSS will be very happy as this party can only lessen its support.

The idea that Serbs and Russians are brothers is only true with some culture. The Serbs as well as the Croats are what we call a Dinaric People. There are no Dinarics is Russia. We are a group among ourselves.

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.

Look, in a weakened moment of too much rakija at the local kafana, even I could appreciate the Serbo-Russian "brotherhood", but let's not get carried away here.

It used to be a nice country, but will Serbia become the new Ukraine ? Sad !!!

Listen, if, under the current and most certainly forthcoming western puppet regime in belgrade, "our" goal is to be anschlussed into the €USSR, than we are nothing more than a "sector" or at best a under developed "region" of cheap labour and outsourced assets for Brussels. If we on the other hand are permitted to a fair choise in the election, than becoming a russian oblast or autonomous region with our best friends would be the best for all of us, security, nukes for protection against IMF & western terror bombing and part of russias enormous wealth in terms of money.

bganon, I don't think SNS or DSS will fear this. DSS isn't as Russophile as it's critics like to claim. SNS has nothing to fear from such a small formation, I mean it has made pro-EU statements its support never fell.

This is more of a threat to the SRS. They consist of the most radical russophiles, called for union with Russia many times in the last 15 years. Honestly, their support consists of Obraz and most extreme Russophiles.

If this "party" can participate in elections the Radicals could fall below the 5% threshold.

Another reason why Serbia must balance between the East and West. If it leans to much to the West then the demands to join the East get stronger (and vice versa). Serbia must keep the balance right and stay militarily neutral to prosper enormously.

oh, boy.
go ahead please, join with Russia ;-)

gubernija yes, us-satelite/eu-member no ...

boy that was about time to found a party that doesn´t wish to unite with russian federation, but is actively working on it ...

Another reason why Serbia must balance between the East and West. If it leans too much to the West then the demands to join the East get stronger (and vice versa). Serbia must keep the balance right and stay militarily neutral to prosper enormously.
(Zoran, 13 October 2009 17:31)

Right on Zoran. Serbia must carefully balance between both sides, i.e. No EU and no Russia. In saying that, Mr Isakovic's proposal sounds like a right laugh.

Maybe I can set up a 'My Slovenia' party here in Serbia to unite us Serb -Slovenes to Slovenia. Ah to hell with it. While we are at it why not a 'My Hungary', 'My Slovakia', 'My Czechia', 'My Romania', 'My Bosnia', 'My Makedonija', 'My Albania', 'My Croatia', 'My Roma' - for the Gypsies. Have I left anyone out? ah yes the Montenegrins.

This will be fun :)

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.
(albi, 14 October 2009 14:23)


Would that be lakewood Ohio??
Also please explain what the meaning of "Kosova" is. It's a stolen word that has zero meaning in the nomadic language of albanians.

With such ideas the Illyrian land inhabitants will have days numbered, and leaving the land to the orignial owner, The Albanians.

Time is on our side.
(PRN, 13 October 2009 15:18)

I had impression, the original owners were Brown Balkan Bears of Medvedja. So you need to argue with them, not Serbs. Ask them to come, they will be glad to, any time you want (or don't want).

All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything.

There is nothing wrong about it,in the end is ,,Sense of Place'' and if they feel that they belong to Russia then thats fair enough,them people feel that that where their roots are. My grandfather left balkans 80years ago but he still feels that thats his home and where he belongs.

You spend much time commenting this: it's easy, just a word: "pathetic"

This is a joke, right?

Probably another Russian ploy to get Serbian assets at a bargain price!! Just like they did with Serbia's gas & oil companies... Anyway, the crooks in RS wouldn't give up their positions of power to have their so-called state unify with Serbia, why would Sebia sacrifice its own sovereignty to be swalled up by Russia? It won't get them Kosovo back.. Russia has practically accepted its independance recognising South Ossetia.

I have a feeling these guys won't be going very far. They might provide free entertainment during electoral campaigns though.
(Ment, 13 October 2009 16:19)

The local mood in Southern Serbia can be actually more pro-Russian than in bigger cities. But at least it's more genuine than the opportunist "pro-American" mood around Bill Clinton Blvd. I have my doubts about the later one. They know about USA much less, than Serbs about Russia.

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Look, in a weakened moment of too much rakija at the local kafana, even I could appreciate the Serbo-Russian "brotherhood", but let's not get carried away here.
(Mike, 13 October 2009 16:12)

On popular level it is actually much bigger than in the politics. There (in the politics) it always smells as politics.

-------------

I assume very soon we are going to hear other parties have just been established called " My Egypt, My Venezuela, My Cuba, My Romania, etc..."
(Kosova-USA, 13 October 2009 15:00)

Probably not after "My Greece", "My New Zealand", "My Spain", "My Argentina", "My Singapore" etc

This is exactly what the world knows Balkan people for, being an underdog to the others.

This is kind of joke, a party whose platform is going to be to unite with Russia in the 21 century, while Serbia and Europe are getting closer and closer signing treaties and agreements.

It will be interesting to see whether they even get enough signatures to get registered as a party or even get representation in the Parliament.

I don't understand how Serbians can be so naive and stubborn. It's like "I'm pro-Russia = I'm anti-EU and anti-USA". As far as I know, Russia has economical agreements with both EU and USA, and an intense bilateral commerce.

You are just too emotive...

You know ,I love this story's keep remind me that tells ...HEY YOUR BACK HOME IS RUSSIA FROM THERE SERBIANS COME FROM in 7 century in to balkan nothing excited here..

"
All you need to explain, why does "Kosovo Pole" mean in southern Russian dialects "Field of Blackbirds", but "Kosova" does not mean in Thracian or Illyrian anything."

For the same reason that "Lakewood," the town where I live, means something in English but nothing in any of the native Indian languages of the American continent.

I think it's best to leave the study of the toponyms to professionals.
(albi, 14 October 2009 14:23)

Americans toponyms are full of old native Indians names. E.g. "Ohio" from the Seneca word "ohi:yo’", "Mississippi"from the Ojibwe word "misi-ziibi" etc. In Kosovo - is very small number of albanian names.

Places like "Lakewood" are names of NEW seetlemments created by the Americans on the territories where were ANY Indians (becouse they were expelled, killed etc.). Settlements created on places where were old Indian villages have mostly old indian names e.g. Miami - from indian tribe Mayaimi, Manhattan from Lenape "Manna-hata" etc.

PS. In Poland we have some villages with name "Kosowo" and in polish "Kosovo Polje" mean "Kosowe Pole" - very similar to serbian.

Mike: Kosova means nothing in ALbanian. They only put the 'a' on the end to differentiate it from the correct Kosovo. It has only been in use since about the 1950's by Albanian separatists. The problem is that it means nothing and they got it mixed up with a tribe called 'Kosova' in West kenya.

Ante
Probably another Russian ploy to get Serbian assets at a bargain price!! Just like they did with Serbia's gas & oil companies... Anyway, the crooks in RS wouldn't give up their positions of power to have their so-called state unify with Serbia, why would Sebia sacrifice its own sovereignty to be swalled up by Russia? It won't get them Kosovo back.. Russia has practically accepted its independance recognising South Ossetia.

Y u care what this man doing? It's not like he's forcing u to support his party so don't bad mouth him. So what if they sold NIS at a bargain price, Russia's Serbia only ally pretty much. I would have given it to them for free to just have their support. Besides Serbia privatized many more companies to EU nations for bargain too and thats ok? Crooks in RS? What about Kosovo, what do u call that? A entity that runs on Drug trafficing and prostitution is based on real democrats. Grow up man. Serbia is finally not doing everything the West tells them which u should be grateful for if ur Serbian and if ur not, i dono y ur commenting. So what ur saying is America has practically recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia because they recognized Kosovo? Your not making any sense man.