Dodik “obstinate,” says EP rapporteur

Thank God Dodik is standing up for Serb rights and not Pack's wishes,the Americans,the EU etc We need men like him.I suspect Tadic is the opposite.He is a nice man.The West likes him.They can do business with him on their terms.What law or initiative has the West ever created which has benefited the Serbs since 1991? Butimir will be the usual claptrap about Euro Atlantic Integration creating a centralised Bosnia which benefits the Bosniaks etc..
They've got English Bildt and Incko we have Dodik who tells it as it is!!

Dodik rules!!!
Freedom for Republica Srpska!

Serbia needs someone like Milorad who tells it how it is instead of Mr Western Tadic.
RS is lucky to have him!

Referendum now. Independent Republika Srpska.... CCCC

You mean Dodik won't listen to the unelected imperialist overlords?? You mean he does what the people who elected him want him to do? You mean he wants to remain free and independent and run his own affairs without outsiders and strangers telling him how to run his country??
Keep up the good work Milorad!! You and your people will be free from these shackles very soon, sooner than they realize.
Cheers!!

Germans mind your own business.

I didn't realise Doris Pack was European Parliament's Rapporteur for Bosnia-Herzegovina. May God help that country!

Doris should know that Serbians are the troublemakers of Europe simply because we want to be free and independent. We do not bow to nor have a master.

Republika Srpska is a success, completely functional and prospering. Just like that "Kosova" project, BiH will not succeed without Serbia and Serbians. We are not going to integrate into your failures but they must integrate into our success. Now it's time to swallow your pride and to do something constructive for a change.

Doris Pack's arrogance is quite breathtaking. I think she is genuinely surprised that an (emphatically) elected prime minister of a de facto state would not jump to the instructions of a member of a glorified talking shop created as a fig leaf to cover the essentially undemocratic nature of the EU. I mean, how dare he?

The attitudes towards the Balkans of the "great powers" (and I'd include the Russians in that) stink. It's time that everyone stopped acting like it was 1913.

It is very clear that it is not possibale to live with the Bosnians in peace. The Croats have learned this already. It is time to stop and let Serbs Join with Serbia and the small Croat population to merge with Croatia. Enough...BTW the football violence was caused by Islamic hooligans.

The famously partial and serbophobe D. Pack (De)* went to Bosnia to give Dodik an earful. Dodik laughed in this 'special rapporteur's' face because she was behaving way, way above her station.

She can only give recommendations and make reports back to Brussels and NO powers of 'negotiation'. Her arrogance has got her absolutely nothing.

*Resume here: http://www.eaea.org/index.php?k=15088

- Order of Zvonimir (Croatia) (1995).

- Order of the Republic of Albania (2002).

- Honorary doctorate from the University of Zadar, Croatia (2007).

From her webpage: http://www.dorispack.de/persoenliches.html

- 1997 Orden der Republik Kroatiens (HR)

- 2006 Kroatischer Kulturclub, Silberne Taube von Vucedol, Symbol für Frieden und Freiheit des kroatischen Volkes

- 2008 Toleranzpreis des Parlamentes der Vojvodina (Serbien) [WTF is this?]

- 2009 Preis der Stadt Pogradec (Albanien)

'Nuff said.

Roberto,

You can blame the EU for giving such unlimted power to Milorad Dodik. They did this in trying to keep Bosnia together when Kosovo was being recognised by members of EU and the US.

They promised the world if Srpska Republika remains with Bosnia i.e. western recognition and full financial assistance. Prior to that time the west was trying to break the Dayton agreement and was attempting enforced integration.

All Dodik has to do is threaten to hold a referendum on whether to stay or leave Bosnia and the EU/US buckles and falls into line. They are terrified of Bosnia falling apart and having the Bosniaks and Croats at each others throats, as if they are not doing that now. So when Milorad says jump, the EU/US answer how high?

All Dodik has to do is threaten to hold a referendum on whether to stay or leave Bosnia and the EU/US buckles and falls into line. They are terrified of Bosnia falling apart and having the Bosniaks and Croats at each others throats, as if they are not doing that now. So when Milorad says jump, the EU/US answer how high?
(sj, 7 October 2009 23:31)

The Croats and Bosniaks are already at each other's throats yet Roberto carefully ignores this little fact and conveniently makes the Serbs his scapegoat. Anything bad happens and its the Serbs fault.

May God's love shine on all of us and a just and fair society to prosper.

Milorad Dodik is “obstinate”… for Russian and Serbian money, political power and the Greater Serbia nightmare… as the same way that happened to other “obstinates” like Slobodan Milosevic and Arkan Raznatovic.

Roberto, please tell us, how could a removal of Dodik help the bosnian muslims getting a better economy?

They are refusing to follow IMF orders and lowering pensions for war veterans (wich they won the elections on)

Even if abandoning the entity of Republika Srpska would come true, the federations finances wouldn't be any better. Or do you think they would?

We all know that a abandoning of RS as an entity and following the federations example of how to run their economy would only ruin the wellrun finances of the serbian half of the country. And the only purpose would be to help the muslim politicians save their faces regarding their incapabilities to run a countrys economy.

If republika Srpska would be dragn down into the financial black hole that the federation now sits in, would that help to create a stable Bosnia Hercegovina you think?

Try to see the inabilities of other politicans than just Dodik, actually he is doing quite good in running RS. If the federation followed his examples concerning economics it would be better for the citizens of the federation.

roberto, BiH had peace and tolerence before Germany and the west decided to interfere. Besides, you need to visit Republika Srpska and you'll see plenty of progress there. And you want us to integrate with failed entities? Keep dreaming!

The Bosnians and others need to get over the lies and propaganda, not us. We have already stated that all sides committed crimes. Time to own up and move on.

Is Pack done kavetching, or do we need to call the Waaambulance?

Thanks Aleks for the insightful information on "Doris Day", she does belong to Hollywood. Impressive resume, there is no surprise she has links to the Croatians/Albanians, which side were they fighting with during WW2?

how foolish, lazy, and un-ethical is the intl community, for allowing this sham to continue, and then refusing to take responsibility for it.

talk about ancient animosities... i have some more recent and pressing animosity, which is really quite well founded.

get rid of dodik and his pals, and re-build peace and tolerance in bosnia. period.

robert-0
(roberto, 7 October 2009 21:47)

1. I totally agree, yes. The international community, those who assisted or were complicit in the violent destruction of Yugoslavia should come clean. Will they? No.

2. I agree again. The more recent animosity with the Albanians is really quite well founded.

3. there was peace and tolerance in bosnia for a long time before your friends from berlin decided to show up again.

there is an article about a middle eastern man being jailed for inciting violence in israel. i think we need your help there with something.

As long as dodik is allowed to remain in office, there will be no progress in bosnia. this will continue to be one ugly sinkhole, politically speaking. that is fine for the (extreme) nationalists, who worked hard for the destruction of bosnia (you can call the accompanying genocide either a sideline or the main event, depending on your POV and how much you value human life.)

dodik should have been removed a long time ago, as well as a number of other crooked bosnian politicians. instead the (intl) political will to do so is lacking, resulting in utter quagmire. and then people ask: what is wrong with those "primitive" Bosnians?? they can never live in peace, and apartheid is the only answer.

of course the truth is that as long as the demagogues are supported and facilitated, there can never be peace -- their own and only objective is to raise tensions and obstruct.

how foolish, lazy, and un-ethical is the intl community, for allowing this sham to continue, and then refusing to take responsibility for it.

talk about ancient animosities... i have some more recent and pressing animosity, which is really quite well founded.

get rid of dodik and his pals, and re-build peace and tolerance in bosnia. period.

robert-0

Peace & Tolerance?

Haris Siljadzic is Izetbegovic's spiritual child, spitting the same poison and making disastrous decisions and statements 'on behalf' of his people (I won't even mention the wannabe Izetbegovic son)..

Fikret Abdic would have done a deal with the Serbs & Croats, but he resigned the Presidency of the SDA to Izetbegovic on the promise that there would be NO WAR.

Izetbegovic knew better of course. So did Zimmerman and the Great US of A who decided it was good to truly finger the EC plan of Carrington-Cutileiro too.

Everyone was ready to negotiate, but 'begovic who plunged his dagger into the heart of peace because he had a 'higher calling', beyond that of mere mortals...

If he were still alive and before the ICTY (as he was under 'secret' indictment), I'd have liked to ask him if it was all worth it?

We know who is smoking the Islamska Deklaracija these days. Maybe the ever so tolerant and left-wing Dutch political classes will unilaterally adopt it*?

All that is needed, we are told, is to fold the RS into the deeply corrupt and bankrupt Bosnian-Croat Federation and peace will reign. EU accession will be rapid. Those who advocate this have long been detached from any kind of resemblance of reality.

The BCF needs to get itself in to political and economic shape first rather than 1: blaming the RS for their own mess; 2: blaming the OHR for not dancing the right tango with them. After that standard accords between it the RS in all relevant areas can be signed.

There is absolutely NO need to change the status of the RS. The EU has already enough instruments to fix acquis communautaire compliance for adhesion to the EU without all this noise. It is just ridiculous.

*That was sarcasm if you didn't get it.

As long as dodik is allowed to remain in office, there will be no progress in bosnia. this will continue to be one ugly sinkhole, politically speaking. that is fine for the (extreme) nationalists, who worked hard for the destruction of bosnia (you can call the accompanying genocide either a sideline or the main event, depending on your POV and how much you value human life.)

dodik should have been removed a long time ago, as well as a number of other crooked bosnian politicians. instead the (intl) political will to do so is lacking, resulting in utter quagmire. and then people ask: what is wrong with those "primitive" Bosnians?? they can never live in peace, and apartheid is the only answer.

of course the truth is that as long as the demagogues are supported and facilitated, there can never be peace -- their own and only objective is to raise tensions and obstruct.

how foolish, lazy, and un-ethical is the intl community, for allowing this sham to continue, and then refusing to take responsibility for it.

talk about ancient animosities... i have some more recent and pressing animosity, which is really quite well founded.

get rid of dodik and his pals, and re-build peace and tolerance in bosnia. period.

robert-0

I didn't realise Doris Pack was European Parliament's Rapporteur for Bosnia-Herzegovina. May God help that country!

Doris should know that Serbians are the troublemakers of Europe simply because we want to be free and independent. We do not bow to nor have a master.

Republika Srpska is a success, completely functional and prospering. Just like that "Kosova" project, BiH will not succeed without Serbia and Serbians. We are not going to integrate into your failures but they must integrate into our success. Now it's time to swallow your pride and to do something constructive for a change.

Referendum now. Independent Republika Srpska.... CCCC

It is very clear that it is not possibale to live with the Bosnians in peace. The Croats have learned this already. It is time to stop and let Serbs Join with Serbia and the small Croat population to merge with Croatia. Enough...BTW the football violence was caused by Islamic hooligans.

All Dodik has to do is threaten to hold a referendum on whether to stay or leave Bosnia and the EU/US buckles and falls into line. They are terrified of Bosnia falling apart and having the Bosniaks and Croats at each others throats, as if they are not doing that now. So when Milorad says jump, the EU/US answer how high?
(sj, 7 October 2009 23:31)

The Croats and Bosniaks are already at each other's throats yet Roberto carefully ignores this little fact and conveniently makes the Serbs his scapegoat. Anything bad happens and its the Serbs fault.

Thank God Dodik is standing up for Serb rights and not Pack's wishes,the Americans,the EU etc We need men like him.I suspect Tadic is the opposite.He is a nice man.The West likes him.They can do business with him on their terms.What law or initiative has the West ever created which has benefited the Serbs since 1991? Butimir will be the usual claptrap about Euro Atlantic Integration creating a centralised Bosnia which benefits the Bosniaks etc..
They've got English Bildt and Incko we have Dodik who tells it as it is!!

Germans mind your own business.

You mean Dodik won't listen to the unelected imperialist overlords?? You mean he does what the people who elected him want him to do? You mean he wants to remain free and independent and run his own affairs without outsiders and strangers telling him how to run his country??
Keep up the good work Milorad!! You and your people will be free from these shackles very soon, sooner than they realize.
Cheers!!

Dodik rules!!!
Freedom for Republica Srpska!

roberto, BiH had peace and tolerence before Germany and the west decided to interfere. Besides, you need to visit Republika Srpska and you'll see plenty of progress there. And you want us to integrate with failed entities? Keep dreaming!

The Bosnians and others need to get over the lies and propaganda, not us. We have already stated that all sides committed crimes. Time to own up and move on.

Serbia needs someone like Milorad who tells it how it is instead of Mr Western Tadic.
RS is lucky to have him!

Doris Pack's arrogance is quite breathtaking. I think she is genuinely surprised that an (emphatically) elected prime minister of a de facto state would not jump to the instructions of a member of a glorified talking shop created as a fig leaf to cover the essentially undemocratic nature of the EU. I mean, how dare he?

The attitudes towards the Balkans of the "great powers" (and I'd include the Russians in that) stink. It's time that everyone stopped acting like it was 1913.

Thanks Aleks for the insightful information on "Doris Day", she does belong to Hollywood. Impressive resume, there is no surprise she has links to the Croatians/Albanians, which side were they fighting with during WW2?

The famously partial and serbophobe D. Pack (De)* went to Bosnia to give Dodik an earful. Dodik laughed in this 'special rapporteur's' face because she was behaving way, way above her station.

She can only give recommendations and make reports back to Brussels and NO powers of 'negotiation'. Her arrogance has got her absolutely nothing.

*Resume here: http://www.eaea.org/index.php?k=15088

- Order of Zvonimir (Croatia) (1995).

- Order of the Republic of Albania (2002).

- Honorary doctorate from the University of Zadar, Croatia (2007).

From her webpage: http://www.dorispack.de/persoenliches.html

- 1997 Orden der Republik Kroatiens (HR)

- 2006 Kroatischer Kulturclub, Silberne Taube von Vucedol, Symbol für Frieden und Freiheit des kroatischen Volkes

- 2008 Toleranzpreis des Parlamentes der Vojvodina (Serbien) [WTF is this?]

- 2009 Preis der Stadt Pogradec (Albanien)

'Nuff said.

Is Pack done kavetching, or do we need to call the Waaambulance?

Roberto, please tell us, how could a removal of Dodik help the bosnian muslims getting a better economy?

They are refusing to follow IMF orders and lowering pensions for war veterans (wich they won the elections on)

Even if abandoning the entity of Republika Srpska would come true, the federations finances wouldn't be any better. Or do you think they would?

We all know that a abandoning of RS as an entity and following the federations example of how to run their economy would only ruin the wellrun finances of the serbian half of the country. And the only purpose would be to help the muslim politicians save their faces regarding their incapabilities to run a countrys economy.

If republika Srpska would be dragn down into the financial black hole that the federation now sits in, would that help to create a stable Bosnia Hercegovina you think?

Try to see the inabilities of other politicans than just Dodik, actually he is doing quite good in running RS. If the federation followed his examples concerning economics it would be better for the citizens of the federation.

Milorad Dodik is “obstinate”… for Russian and Serbian money, political power and the Greater Serbia nightmare… as the same way that happened to other “obstinates” like Slobodan Milosevic and Arkan Raznatovic.

Roberto,

You can blame the EU for giving such unlimted power to Milorad Dodik. They did this in trying to keep Bosnia together when Kosovo was being recognised by members of EU and the US.

They promised the world if Srpska Republika remains with Bosnia i.e. western recognition and full financial assistance. Prior to that time the west was trying to break the Dayton agreement and was attempting enforced integration.

All Dodik has to do is threaten to hold a referendum on whether to stay or leave Bosnia and the EU/US buckles and falls into line. They are terrified of Bosnia falling apart and having the Bosniaks and Croats at each others throats, as if they are not doing that now. So when Milorad says jump, the EU/US answer how high?

how foolish, lazy, and un-ethical is the intl community, for allowing this sham to continue, and then refusing to take responsibility for it.

talk about ancient animosities... i have some more recent and pressing animosity, which is really quite well founded.

get rid of dodik and his pals, and re-build peace and tolerance in bosnia. period.

robert-0
(roberto, 7 October 2009 21:47)

1. I totally agree, yes. The international community, those who assisted or were complicit in the violent destruction of Yugoslavia should come clean. Will they? No.

2. I agree again. The more recent animosity with the Albanians is really quite well founded.

3. there was peace and tolerance in bosnia for a long time before your friends from berlin decided to show up again.

there is an article about a middle eastern man being jailed for inciting violence in israel. i think we need your help there with something.

May God's love shine on all of us and a just and fair society to prosper.

Peace & Tolerance?

Haris Siljadzic is Izetbegovic's spiritual child, spitting the same poison and making disastrous decisions and statements 'on behalf' of his people (I won't even mention the wannabe Izetbegovic son)..

Fikret Abdic would have done a deal with the Serbs & Croats, but he resigned the Presidency of the SDA to Izetbegovic on the promise that there would be NO WAR.

Izetbegovic knew better of course. So did Zimmerman and the Great US of A who decided it was good to truly finger the EC plan of Carrington-Cutileiro too.

Everyone was ready to negotiate, but 'begovic who plunged his dagger into the heart of peace because he had a 'higher calling', beyond that of mere mortals...

If he were still alive and before the ICTY (as he was under 'secret' indictment), I'd have liked to ask him if it was all worth it?

We know who is smoking the Islamska Deklaracija these days. Maybe the ever so tolerant and left-wing Dutch political classes will unilaterally adopt it*?

All that is needed, we are told, is to fold the RS into the deeply corrupt and bankrupt Bosnian-Croat Federation and peace will reign. EU accession will be rapid. Those who advocate this have long been detached from any kind of resemblance of reality.

The BCF needs to get itself in to political and economic shape first rather than 1: blaming the RS for their own mess; 2: blaming the OHR for not dancing the right tango with them. After that standard accords between it the RS in all relevant areas can be signed.

There is absolutely NO need to change the status of the RS. The EU has already enough instruments to fix acquis communautaire compliance for adhesion to the EU without all this noise. It is just ridiculous.

*That was sarcasm if you didn't get it.