Boris Tadić says Serbia has "no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
LJUBLJANA -- Boris Tadić says Serbia has "no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
lol, you have just approvingly quoted arta, one of the biggest trolls around, and you expect to be taken seriously? anyway, what you are saying makes no sense. contrary to what you say, nationalism is not dominating the policy of the current serbian government. nationalists say "kosovo is serbia" and "we were here first" (a claim both sides make). serbian government simply opposes losing a part of its territory, something that every country in the world opposes and they are using legal arguments and diplomacy. they are not tormenting anyone and have been quite constructive in their approach, which was acknowledged by europeans and americans.
of course, everyone can question the usefulness of the serbian struggle to preserve kosovo, but nationalism is not the way serbian government is framing it and that's a good thing.
Dardania? Don't go back to far or you will find that the area was coverd in ice and no one lived there.
History is neither friend nor foe. It is manipulated by those who write it and those who try to rewrite it.
People need to look at what is present, what is International Law, and if the law does not agree with your point of view then try to lobby to get it changed, but work within the current law.
it´s really entertaining, how "Roberto" is giving more and more reason to see him as a simple Albanian who wants to still believes have a successful alter ego...
now he´s even phantasizing about "eastern kosova"...
how about lecturing about the bars and cafe´s , all the places to be, since you are such a connaisseur in regard to san-fran?
as for the B92-censors: they also show a lack of credibility, if letting such an obvious fake exist for such a long time...
Dardania? Is that something like Narnia? There is not one single piece of evidence on the entire planet that Albanians are descendents of the fabled Illyrians. There is however, hundreds of churches and monasteries throughout Kosovo that quite simply say "this is Serbia".
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
(ivan, 3 October 2009 19:57)
Are You sure?? According to most of world and international law (supported by UN resolution 1244) - Kosovo is still province of Serbia.
since when do Serb rights and EU integration conflict. This should never be a conflicting issue. Any politician that is elected in office should be extremly sincere for ALL citizen rights. EU integration has nothing to do with human rights!
"no one has a right to critise him"
Really! That is a pretty silly statement. Lets not critise a country's president. Do you want Tito back or do you want to move to Cuba? Critising your president is what creates change and brings up questions. Asking questions and more critism is exactly what Serbia needs to excel.
If you want the same stance as Armenia towards Turkey, then I suggest that you get new politicians in Serbia - elect the ones that will stand up for Serb rights and not worry about joining the EU.
However, people voted for the likes of Tadic and his party, so no one has a right to critise him because he got a mandate at the last election.
By the way, people get the policians they deserve.
>>Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.>>
(artA, 3 October 2009 17:43)
i really don't know what tadic believes, versus what he states for public consumption, and i've often commented so. now jeremic, as we all know and as they correctly describe him on the helsinki site, is overtly "radical" (serbian usage, not ours)but tadic bills himself as pro-western democrat, then leads the battle against ALBANIANS. not for kosovo/a, but ag. albanians. that means tormenting the people of kosovo/a on a daily basis in every way possible and allowable, and it means working against the civil and human rights of albanians inside serbia proper, what my frnd refers to as "eastern Kosova".
every albanian (at least 99%) know this to be the case, so tadic continuing to claim rights over the "province" is both offensive and embarrassingly naive, at best.
what we really need is to improve the social/political/economic situation in both serbia and in Kosovo/a, and throughout the rest of the former YU. THAT is what makes sense discussing in the forum -- how we can best do that, what forms it will take, how we can cooperate, brainstorm, experiment (in positive ways.) instead it is this never ending call to nationalism, which of course is so much simpler than those rougher issues. but then look at the consequences of unrepentant nationalism, as for example in these past weeks.
clearly, new and progressive leadership is required.
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
Serbs do not want to control Albanians, Albanians cannot even control themselves. Keep the land you live on, live their and don't cause anymore trouble. That's all the Serbs want. But Kosovo is Serbian land, that is why it's called Kosovo.
"Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia."
As in crumbling to Slovenian blackmail against Croatia by blocking its accession to the EU?
I do hope that this is just diplomatic wind blowing on Tadic's side as we all well know that slovene elite has always looked out for itself, whether during the SFRY where it profited very well from its geographic location, to supporting 'kosovo albanian' rights and others because it was a cost free and good PR exercise.
Rupel is not the only poisonous character who have consistently made and taken unfriendly actions towards Serbia and the Serbs.
If the slovenes try the same tactics on Belgrade, then their business interests should be given a lower 'status' than other states who wish to invest in Serbia.
"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
That statement is as useful as a castrated rooster Mr president.
some 50% of them have the "legitimate right" to go right back to Albania where they came from illegaly and give the stolen property of houses and land bac to their rightful owners.
>>>"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights"
You can't anymore, Tadic. You tried for 100 years--several times.
>>"I believe that we should look at the problems created in the territory of the former Yugoslavia through fairness, which is something [Slovenian] President Danilo Turk and I have agreed on,"
Problems...created by you!
>> Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia.
Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.
>>>"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights"
You can't anymore, Tadic. You tried for 100 years--several times.
>>"I believe that we should look at the problems created in the territory of the former Yugoslavia through fairness, which is something [Slovenian] President Danilo Turk and I have agreed on,"
Problems...created by you!
>> Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia.
Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.
Serbs do not want to control Albanians, Albanians cannot even control themselves. Keep the land you live on, live their and don't cause anymore trouble. That's all the Serbs want. But Kosovo is Serbian land, that is why it's called Kosovo.
"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
That statement is as useful as a castrated rooster Mr president.
some 50% of them have the "legitimate right" to go right back to Albania where they came from illegaly and give the stolen property of houses and land bac to their rightful owners.
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
>>Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.>>
(artA, 3 October 2009 17:43)
i really don't know what tadic believes, versus what he states for public consumption, and i've often commented so. now jeremic, as we all know and as they correctly describe him on the helsinki site, is overtly "radical" (serbian usage, not ours)but tadic bills himself as pro-western democrat, then leads the battle against ALBANIANS. not for kosovo/a, but ag. albanians. that means tormenting the people of kosovo/a on a daily basis in every way possible and allowable, and it means working against the civil and human rights of albanians inside serbia proper, what my frnd refers to as "eastern Kosova".
every albanian (at least 99%) know this to be the case, so tadic continuing to claim rights over the "province" is both offensive and embarrassingly naive, at best.
what we really need is to improve the social/political/economic situation in both serbia and in Kosovo/a, and throughout the rest of the former YU. THAT is what makes sense discussing in the forum -- how we can best do that, what forms it will take, how we can cooperate, brainstorm, experiment (in positive ways.) instead it is this never ending call to nationalism, which of course is so much simpler than those rougher issues. but then look at the consequences of unrepentant nationalism, as for example in these past weeks.
clearly, new and progressive leadership is required.
"Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia."
As in crumbling to Slovenian blackmail against Croatia by blocking its accession to the EU?
I do hope that this is just diplomatic wind blowing on Tadic's side as we all well know that slovene elite has always looked out for itself, whether during the SFRY where it profited very well from its geographic location, to supporting 'kosovo albanian' rights and others because it was a cost free and good PR exercise.
Rupel is not the only poisonous character who have consistently made and taken unfriendly actions towards Serbia and the Serbs.
If the slovenes try the same tactics on Belgrade, then their business interests should be given a lower 'status' than other states who wish to invest in Serbia.
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
(ivan, 3 October 2009 19:57)
Are You sure?? According to most of world and international law (supported by UN resolution 1244) - Kosovo is still province of Serbia.
Dardania? Is that something like Narnia? There is not one single piece of evidence on the entire planet that Albanians are descendents of the fabled Illyrians. There is however, hundreds of churches and monasteries throughout Kosovo that quite simply say "this is Serbia".
If you want the same stance as Armenia towards Turkey, then I suggest that you get new politicians in Serbia - elect the ones that will stand up for Serb rights and not worry about joining the EU.
However, people voted for the likes of Tadic and his party, so no one has a right to critise him because he got a mandate at the last election.
By the way, people get the policians they deserve.
since when do Serb rights and EU integration conflict. This should never be a conflicting issue. Any politician that is elected in office should be extremly sincere for ALL citizen rights. EU integration has nothing to do with human rights!
"no one has a right to critise him"
Really! That is a pretty silly statement. Lets not critise a country's president. Do you want Tito back or do you want to move to Cuba? Critising your president is what creates change and brings up questions. Asking questions and more critism is exactly what Serbia needs to excel.
lol, you have just approvingly quoted arta, one of the biggest trolls around, and you expect to be taken seriously? anyway, what you are saying makes no sense. contrary to what you say, nationalism is not dominating the policy of the current serbian government. nationalists say "kosovo is serbia" and "we were here first" (a claim both sides make). serbian government simply opposes losing a part of its territory, something that every country in the world opposes and they are using legal arguments and diplomacy. they are not tormenting anyone and have been quite constructive in their approach, which was acknowledged by europeans and americans.
of course, everyone can question the usefulness of the serbian struggle to preserve kosovo, but nationalism is not the way serbian government is framing it and that's a good thing.
Dardania? Don't go back to far or you will find that the area was coverd in ice and no one lived there.
History is neither friend nor foe. It is manipulated by those who write it and those who try to rewrite it.
People need to look at what is present, what is International Law, and if the law does not agree with your point of view then try to lobby to get it changed, but work within the current law.
it´s really entertaining, how "Roberto" is giving more and more reason to see him as a simple Albanian who wants to still believes have a successful alter ego...
now he´s even phantasizing about "eastern kosova"...
how about lecturing about the bars and cafe´s , all the places to be, since you are such a connaisseur in regard to san-fran?
as for the B92-censors: they also show a lack of credibility, if letting such an obvious fake exist for such a long time...
LJUBLJANA -- Boris Tadić says Serbia has "no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
some 50% of them have the "legitimate right" to go right back to Albania where they came from illegaly and give the stolen property of houses and land bac to their rightful owners.
Serbs do not want to control Albanians, Albanians cannot even control themselves. Keep the land you live on, live their and don't cause anymore trouble. That's all the Serbs want. But Kosovo is Serbian land, that is why it's called Kosovo.
>>>"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights"
You can't anymore, Tadic. You tried for 100 years--several times.
>>"I believe that we should look at the problems created in the territory of the former Yugoslavia through fairness, which is something [Slovenian] President Danilo Turk and I have agreed on,"
Problems...created by you!
>> Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia.
Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.
"no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
That statement is as useful as a castrated rooster Mr president.
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
"Tadić also evaluated that the principle of fairness that Slovenia is striving for in its relations with Croatia should also apply to Serbia."
As in crumbling to Slovenian blackmail against Croatia by blocking its accession to the EU?
I do hope that this is just diplomatic wind blowing on Tadic's side as we all well know that slovene elite has always looked out for itself, whether during the SFRY where it profited very well from its geographic location, to supporting 'kosovo albanian' rights and others because it was a cost free and good PR exercise.
Rupel is not the only poisonous character who have consistently made and taken unfriendly actions towards Serbia and the Serbs.
If the slovenes try the same tactics on Belgrade, then their business interests should be given a lower 'status' than other states who wish to invest in Serbia.
>>Start apologizing first for every horrible thing the Serbian state did to Albanians, than we will see.>>
(artA, 3 October 2009 17:43)
i really don't know what tadic believes, versus what he states for public consumption, and i've often commented so. now jeremic, as we all know and as they correctly describe him on the helsinki site, is overtly "radical" (serbian usage, not ours)but tadic bills himself as pro-western democrat, then leads the battle against ALBANIANS. not for kosovo/a, but ag. albanians. that means tormenting the people of kosovo/a on a daily basis in every way possible and allowable, and it means working against the civil and human rights of albanians inside serbia proper, what my frnd refers to as "eastern Kosova".
every albanian (at least 99%) know this to be the case, so tadic continuing to claim rights over the "province" is both offensive and embarrassingly naive, at best.
what we really need is to improve the social/political/economic situation in both serbia and in Kosovo/a, and throughout the rest of the former YU. THAT is what makes sense discussing in the forum -- how we can best do that, what forms it will take, how we can cooperate, brainstorm, experiment (in positive ways.) instead it is this never ending call to nationalism, which of course is so much simpler than those rougher issues. but then look at the consequences of unrepentant nationalism, as for example in these past weeks.
clearly, new and progressive leadership is required.
since when do Serb rights and EU integration conflict. This should never be a conflicting issue. Any politician that is elected in office should be extremly sincere for ALL citizen rights. EU integration has nothing to do with human rights!
"no one has a right to critise him"
Really! That is a pretty silly statement. Lets not critise a country's president. Do you want Tito back or do you want to move to Cuba? Critising your president is what creates change and brings up questions. Asking questions and more critism is exactly what Serbia needs to excel.
Mr. Tadic,what are you talking about?This is 2009,Kosova became independent in 2008.
Tadic might have as well talked about the creation of 4th Yugoslavia.
(ivan, 3 October 2009 19:57)
Are You sure?? According to most of world and international law (supported by UN resolution 1244) - Kosovo is still province of Serbia.
If you want the same stance as Armenia towards Turkey, then I suggest that you get new politicians in Serbia - elect the ones that will stand up for Serb rights and not worry about joining the EU.
However, people voted for the likes of Tadic and his party, so no one has a right to critise him because he got a mandate at the last election.
By the way, people get the policians they deserve.
Dardania? Is that something like Narnia? There is not one single piece of evidence on the entire planet that Albanians are descendents of the fabled Illyrians. There is however, hundreds of churches and monasteries throughout Kosovo that quite simply say "this is Serbia".
lol, you have just approvingly quoted arta, one of the biggest trolls around, and you expect to be taken seriously? anyway, what you are saying makes no sense. contrary to what you say, nationalism is not dominating the policy of the current serbian government. nationalists say "kosovo is serbia" and "we were here first" (a claim both sides make). serbian government simply opposes losing a part of its territory, something that every country in the world opposes and they are using legal arguments and diplomacy. they are not tormenting anyone and have been quite constructive in their approach, which was acknowledged by europeans and americans.
of course, everyone can question the usefulness of the serbian struggle to preserve kosovo, but nationalism is not the way serbian government is framing it and that's a good thing.
Dardania? Don't go back to far or you will find that the area was coverd in ice and no one lived there.
History is neither friend nor foe. It is manipulated by those who write it and those who try to rewrite it.
People need to look at what is present, what is International Law, and if the law does not agree with your point of view then try to lobby to get it changed, but work within the current law.
it´s really entertaining, how "Roberto" is giving more and more reason to see him as a simple Albanian who wants to still believes have a successful alter ego...
now he´s even phantasizing about "eastern kosova"...
how about lecturing about the bars and cafe´s , all the places to be, since you are such a connaisseur in regard to san-fran?
as for the B92-censors: they also show a lack of credibility, if letting such an obvious fake exist for such a long time...
LJUBLJANA -- Boris Tadić says Serbia has "no ambition to resolve the issue of Kosovo in a way that would deprive the Albanians in the province of their legitimate rights".
IMAGE SOURCE
17 Komentari
Sortiraj po: