Citizens to protest against violence

Alem - and how about a protest in Pristina to round up and catch KLA war criminals? Or yet again, does it just flow in one direction?

Oh my God, we've got another one. Alem, say something sensible about the hooliganism or go away.

"Kažimo ne huliganstvu"

That's wonderful! It really is a wonderful gesture of good will and participation towards a stable and safe democracy. Let me ask you this however, what happened to "No to genocide", "No to aggression", "No to ethnic cleansing", "No to concentration camps", "No to aiding and harboring known war criminals", etc...!? Because last time I checked, Hadzic and Mladic were in Serbia and it is widely believed that they still remain in Serbia, rightly believed so. So how about a protest to catch these murderers, this scum of human society, how about that Serbia!?

Seeing the picture of Republic Square illustrating this item reminds me of a few years ago when I was there watching the Women In Black protesting against the killings in Bosnia.

There were few on-lookers who took and interest. I remember one young man (probably a thug) smirking at them.

Sadly, there were few protesting then. Hopefully there will be many more protesting now.

"Mandela": "Serbia is not a safe place for strangers. Too much xenophobia. Too much nationalism. Wars have created a lasting hatred towards others."

What nonsense! The very fact that people are responding like this shows that this is a rare occurence. 'Foreigners' are probably more at risk in Paris or London.

"Alem - and how about a protest in Pristina to round up and catch KLA war criminals? Or yet again, does it just flow in one direction?"
(kate, 1 October 2009 13:16)

Kate,

Absolutely. All war criminals need to be brought to justice. Is it Serbian guilt that makes you think my previous comment only applies to Serb war criminals? Wow. However, you may or may not find it surprising that whichever way the prosecution flows, overwhelming evidence of crimes against humanity is against the serbs, whether we are talking about crimes in Croatia, Bosnia, or Kosovo.

Serbia is not a safe place for strangers. Too much xenophobia. Too much nationalism. Wars have created a lasting hatred towards others.

>> A day after Taton passed away, several thousand people in various parts of Serbia continued to pay their respects to the 27-year-old.

In Belgrade, members of the public lit candles and left flowers well into the night in Republic Square, in front of the French embassy and in Obilićev Venac where Taton was attacked.>>

well I, for one, am still applauding this peace march, and i do wish we could have gone. of course it is not enough, huge problems exist, don't even get me started. but it is a good sign, a good move, and let's try to be positive about it.

again, i say, we need to bring the peace train over to this site. i knew when i wrote that i would be attacked, but i'm attacked anyway, so who cares? i say what i mean, and mean what i say. there is way too much hate in this world, and on this site. it would kill NONE of us to bring the tone down a few decimals, to stop the hate language, to stop the personal insults, to try to be a bit more positive, despite some of the really awful circumstances.

roberto

As the Albanians like to say here, Alem, clean your own backyard first, before criticizing others. Streets in Pristina stream with criminals that have put more mothers in black than anywhere else in Europe, yet Serb haters can't wait for an opportunity to spew their vitriol.

Here we go again; Dave will “jump up” to any reasonable comment in here. He is somewhat a Serbian “guard angel”. What is most weird in here, he requests from those disliked to his taste, to thinking in accordance to his thoughts. Simultaneously he does suggest of the matter that should prevail on the newspapers; i.e. the subject is hooliganism, which MUST be the story today. Who cares about: racism, ethnic cleansing etc…? It happened long time ago, it is not even history, would Dave say.
Kate in the other corner displays his/her dissatisfaction, because Dave is becoming more successful in anachronism. Thus, repeats Dave’s nonsenses, he/she is so imitative. I am truly sorry about these persons. If I were a Serbian like they are (with foreign nick names, though) I would embrace any initiative of the nature of fighting all negativities into my society.

No, Alem it is not "Serbian guilt" that fuels any of my comments, as I'm not Serbian. Your comments on the other hand come straight out of the populist press, and you obviously have no understanding of the very distinct differences between Bosnia and Kosovo, or the reality of the crimes against Serbians as well as other ethnicities.

"overwhelming evidence of crimes against humanity is against the serbs, whether we are talking about crimes in Croatia, Bosnia, or Kosovo."

No Serbs have the most long term refugees.

Serbs were the first attacked in the wars and the mainstream media was silent on the murder sprees of the Croats and Muslims.

Kosovo is now mostly ethnically cleansed of Serbs. You can't compare people who only run out during the most active phase of the war when NATO was bombing with ethnic cleansing.

Ethnic cleansing is when the population is still gone in so-called peacetime.

Croatia is now ethnically cleansed of Serbs as well.

As for Vukovar and Srebrenica it was Serbs who were being killed FIRST in those cities.

Naser Oric and the Muslims killed a prominent Serbian judge of Srebrenica to kick off the wars.

Naser Oric knifed him in the eyes and he told another Muslim about it who wanted to testify in the Hague about what he witnessed Naser Oric and the other Muslims of Srebrenica doing - decapitating Serbs.

And the Croats started the tortures and killings in Vukovar with their death squads under Tomislav Mercep.

The most ethnically cleansed places are those controlled by the Muslims and Croats.

There have been far less Serbian returns to Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica, etc. than there have been Muslim returns to the RS.

The media EXAGGERATED GREATLY for the Muslims. They also count MUSLIM MILITARY AND PARAMILITARY DEAD as "innocent civilians".

Most of the Bosnian Muslim dead were SOLDIERS.

laki, can we have that again in English, mate? I see my name several times in what you've written so I assume there's a point I'm supposed to answer, but I'll be damned if I can understand what it is.

(hoping that b-92 will print this, in honor of the PEACE march -- roberto -- cat stevens' Peace Train:)

Now Ive been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh Ive been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one
And I believe it could be, some day its going to come

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

Now Ive been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh peace train sounding louder
Glide on the peace train
Come on now peace train
Yes, peace train holy roller

Everyone jump upon the peace train
Come on now peace train

Get your bags together, go bring your good friends too
Cause its getting nearer, it soon will be with you

Now come and join the living, its not so far from you
And its getting nearer, soon it will all be true

Now Ive been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is
Why must we go on hating, why cant we live in bliss

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again.

down a few decimals, to stop the hate language, to stop the personal insults, to try to be a bit more positive, despite some of the really awful circumstances.

roberto
(roberto, 1 October 2009 21:49)

Fully with you Roberto (for once) and am sure that most of the Serbian people would happily jump on this train as they have been trying for the last few years, but then where is the train going to go...., just look at some comments here... truly disgusting!

Dave, I don’t blame you; it is too hard (difficult) for you to understand everything. So here you are a suggestion; don’t loose your nerves, take it easy. It is quite enough that you have found your nick-name.
Regards

Dave, apparently, according to Laki, I am displaying my "dissatisfaction, because Dave is becoming more successful in anachronism."

I am so embarrassed that my envy of your 'anachronisms' has been uncovered!

Not only that but I (or 'he/she' as I am referred to) am 'repeating Dave’s nonsenses' because I am so "imitative".

I think that means that in reality I am a Serbian bloke who can't think for myself.

Laki, that's a bit near the knuckle. You should be able to tell from my comments that I'm a mouthy English female with my own nonsense and anachronisms, thank you very much!

Madam, please accept my humble assurance that your "anachronisms" are second to none! The soft lad doesn't know what he's talking about :-)

"Kažimo ne huliganstvu"

That's wonderful! It really is a wonderful gesture of good will and participation towards a stable and safe democracy. Let me ask you this however, what happened to "No to genocide", "No to aggression", "No to ethnic cleansing", "No to concentration camps", "No to aiding and harboring known war criminals", etc...!? Because last time I checked, Hadzic and Mladic were in Serbia and it is widely believed that they still remain in Serbia, rightly believed so. So how about a protest to catch these murderers, this scum of human society, how about that Serbia!?

Serbia is not a safe place for strangers. Too much xenophobia. Too much nationalism. Wars have created a lasting hatred towards others.

"Alem - and how about a protest in Pristina to round up and catch KLA war criminals? Or yet again, does it just flow in one direction?"
(kate, 1 October 2009 13:16)

Kate,

Absolutely. All war criminals need to be brought to justice. Is it Serbian guilt that makes you think my previous comment only applies to Serb war criminals? Wow. However, you may or may not find it surprising that whichever way the prosecution flows, overwhelming evidence of crimes against humanity is against the serbs, whether we are talking about crimes in Croatia, Bosnia, or Kosovo.

Oh my God, we've got another one. Alem, say something sensible about the hooliganism or go away.

Here we go again; Dave will “jump up” to any reasonable comment in here. He is somewhat a Serbian “guard angel”. What is most weird in here, he requests from those disliked to his taste, to thinking in accordance to his thoughts. Simultaneously he does suggest of the matter that should prevail on the newspapers; i.e. the subject is hooliganism, which MUST be the story today. Who cares about: racism, ethnic cleansing etc…? It happened long time ago, it is not even history, would Dave say.
Kate in the other corner displays his/her dissatisfaction, because Dave is becoming more successful in anachronism. Thus, repeats Dave’s nonsenses, he/she is so imitative. I am truly sorry about these persons. If I were a Serbian like they are (with foreign nick names, though) I would embrace any initiative of the nature of fighting all negativities into my society.

Alem - and how about a protest in Pristina to round up and catch KLA war criminals? Or yet again, does it just flow in one direction?

"Mandela": "Serbia is not a safe place for strangers. Too much xenophobia. Too much nationalism. Wars have created a lasting hatred towards others."

What nonsense! The very fact that people are responding like this shows that this is a rare occurence. 'Foreigners' are probably more at risk in Paris or London.

>> A day after Taton passed away, several thousand people in various parts of Serbia continued to pay their respects to the 27-year-old.

In Belgrade, members of the public lit candles and left flowers well into the night in Republic Square, in front of the French embassy and in Obilićev Venac where Taton was attacked.>>

well I, for one, am still applauding this peace march, and i do wish we could have gone. of course it is not enough, huge problems exist, don't even get me started. but it is a good sign, a good move, and let's try to be positive about it.

again, i say, we need to bring the peace train over to this site. i knew when i wrote that i would be attacked, but i'm attacked anyway, so who cares? i say what i mean, and mean what i say. there is way too much hate in this world, and on this site. it would kill NONE of us to bring the tone down a few decimals, to stop the hate language, to stop the personal insults, to try to be a bit more positive, despite some of the really awful circumstances.

roberto

As the Albanians like to say here, Alem, clean your own backyard first, before criticizing others. Streets in Pristina stream with criminals that have put more mothers in black than anywhere else in Europe, yet Serb haters can't wait for an opportunity to spew their vitriol.

"overwhelming evidence of crimes against humanity is against the serbs, whether we are talking about crimes in Croatia, Bosnia, or Kosovo."

No Serbs have the most long term refugees.

Serbs were the first attacked in the wars and the mainstream media was silent on the murder sprees of the Croats and Muslims.

Kosovo is now mostly ethnically cleansed of Serbs. You can't compare people who only run out during the most active phase of the war when NATO was bombing with ethnic cleansing.

Ethnic cleansing is when the population is still gone in so-called peacetime.

Croatia is now ethnically cleansed of Serbs as well.

As for Vukovar and Srebrenica it was Serbs who were being killed FIRST in those cities.

Naser Oric and the Muslims killed a prominent Serbian judge of Srebrenica to kick off the wars.

Naser Oric knifed him in the eyes and he told another Muslim about it who wanted to testify in the Hague about what he witnessed Naser Oric and the other Muslims of Srebrenica doing - decapitating Serbs.

And the Croats started the tortures and killings in Vukovar with their death squads under Tomislav Mercep.

The most ethnically cleansed places are those controlled by the Muslims and Croats.

There have been far less Serbian returns to Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica, etc. than there have been Muslim returns to the RS.

The media EXAGGERATED GREATLY for the Muslims. They also count MUSLIM MILITARY AND PARAMILITARY DEAD as "innocent civilians".

Most of the Bosnian Muslim dead were SOLDIERS.

No, Alem it is not "Serbian guilt" that fuels any of my comments, as I'm not Serbian. Your comments on the other hand come straight out of the populist press, and you obviously have no understanding of the very distinct differences between Bosnia and Kosovo, or the reality of the crimes against Serbians as well as other ethnicities.

laki, can we have that again in English, mate? I see my name several times in what you've written so I assume there's a point I'm supposed to answer, but I'll be damned if I can understand what it is.

down a few decimals, to stop the hate language, to stop the personal insults, to try to be a bit more positive, despite some of the really awful circumstances.

roberto
(roberto, 1 October 2009 21:49)

Fully with you Roberto (for once) and am sure that most of the Serbian people would happily jump on this train as they have been trying for the last few years, but then where is the train going to go...., just look at some comments here... truly disgusting!

Dave, apparently, according to Laki, I am displaying my "dissatisfaction, because Dave is becoming more successful in anachronism."

I am so embarrassed that my envy of your 'anachronisms' has been uncovered!

Not only that but I (or 'he/she' as I am referred to) am 'repeating Dave’s nonsenses' because I am so "imitative".

I think that means that in reality I am a Serbian bloke who can't think for myself.

Laki, that's a bit near the knuckle. You should be able to tell from my comments that I'm a mouthy English female with my own nonsense and anachronisms, thank you very much!

Madam, please accept my humble assurance that your "anachronisms" are second to none! The soft lad doesn't know what he's talking about :-)

(hoping that b-92 will print this, in honor of the PEACE march -- roberto -- cat stevens' Peace Train:)

Now Ive been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh Ive been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one
And I believe it could be, some day its going to come

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

Now Ive been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh peace train sounding louder
Glide on the peace train
Come on now peace train
Yes, peace train holy roller

Everyone jump upon the peace train
Come on now peace train

Get your bags together, go bring your good friends too
Cause its getting nearer, it soon will be with you

Now come and join the living, its not so far from you
And its getting nearer, soon it will all be true

Now Ive been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is
Why must we go on hating, why cant we live in bliss

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again.

Seeing the picture of Republic Square illustrating this item reminds me of a few years ago when I was there watching the Women In Black protesting against the killings in Bosnia.

There were few on-lookers who took and interest. I remember one young man (probably a thug) smirking at them.

Sadly, there were few protesting then. Hopefully there will be many more protesting now.

Dave, I don’t blame you; it is too hard (difficult) for you to understand everything. So here you are a suggestion; don’t loose your nerves, take it easy. It is quite enough that you have found your nick-name.
Regards