Gnjilane Group defendants deny charges

These are the people who america and their "western" buddies supported, and still do to this day. They covered up all their gruesome crimes as well as their own. They continue to lobby for theft of Serbian land to give to these terrorist fantatics on a plate. What a disgrace!!!

After reading what these cowards stand accused of I must say I'm shocked. How can anyone do something like this and still live with himself? Animals don't do this to other animals. This is horrific. It would even make albanias allies during WW2, Adolf Hitler, sick to his stomach! I heard about these events during the war but this time they are more detailed. I hope the convicted ones will rot in prison. They deserve nothing less!

Thank you Serbia for bringing these men to justice!

Albanians have been getting away from their warcrimes for far to long. Albanians are convinced that not a single crime was commited against Serbs, even though there is overwhelming evidence of the oposit. Therefore every attempt to convict suspected Albanians are rejected by them.

EA

Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.

Sounds like the work of a typical albanian terrorists.

Comments by albanians is to be expected, innocent as the wind driven snow...but we know better. These guys are on an express elevator to hell...going down.

"The incitement further states that the defendants broke the fingers of captured civilians using a square pipe, extracted their teeth and nails with pliers, stabbed their tongues with knives, drove lighters through holes made in the victims' skulls, strangled them with wires and bags, cut off their genitalia with machetes, cut their throats with knives and raped a large number of women.

In order to cover up their crimes, the prosecution says, those accused butchered the bodies of their victims with axes and chainsaws, put them in bags, which were then thrown into dumpsters next to the boarding facility (Dom Internata)."

B92! You forgot the following:

They also peeled off the skin from the bodies (like an orange) and drank their victims' blood with plastic straws.
They ate the victims hearts while the organs were still pumping.
They made night lamps with victims sculls.
They took out victims eyeballs and used them to play marbles.
They also killed and baked 3 bavies and ate them after having a "voo doo" dance.
A necklace made of victims bones and teeth was found in the neck of one of the accuser.

MikeC,

I can see your enthusiasm in stomaching everything what Serbian propaganda put it on market.

I haven't got any faith in Serbia's judicial system but saying that the court hasn't given its verdict yet!!! When are you going to learn the basic of democracy and human rights?

miri, you must be a part of that trial: you know much more details.

It is so sad that these sadistic scumbags will get away with their barbaric crimes.

Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.
(MikeC, 30 September 2009 22:52)

Exactly. Serbia has something called credibility precisely because it has charged, tried, and convicted its own people. This is something ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have not done. Why is this?

Let the justice system work - if guilty, may they burn for it. If not guilty, then so be it and set them free. Despite some Albanian claims to the contrary, Serbia today is not Serbia in 1999. They are under a microscope by the international community, and to some Albanians' disappointment, they are moving forward, not backward.

Absolutely outlandish accusations. Headline grabbing, low blow, third world class, tabliod accusations. There is something to learn here however. I bet the prosecution found many of the torture techniques they accuses the defendants of from the war manuals of serb wolves, scorpions eagles and red-berets. Finally someone is going to trial for these horrific crimes, except I think Serbia may have arrested the wrong side, because the real culprits are amongst their own ranks.

having a "voo doo" dance.
A necklace made of victims bones and teeth was found in the neck of one of the accuser.
(miri, 30 September 2009 21:07)

How low one can go...., it must be difficult for you to sleep peacefully..

miri,
the problem is, that ordinary people can not even imagine (I'm not talking about performing) such things.
Again, ordinary people.

If I had faith in the serbian justice system, I would say wait till the jury makes the verdict, but as we all know, a fair trail cannot be expected.

But believe me, if it were true that they committed the crimes that they are accused of, then I would join MikeC in calling for death penalty
(nikshala, 1 October 2009 01:00)

Who is "we all"? I have faith in the Serbian system so you are obviously not representing me here and I am quite sure many, many more. So who is "we all"?

How do you know that it is not true? Were you with these people at those times they are accused of committing these crimes so you can vouch for their whereabouts?

You don't know anything. You are just stabbing in the dark here hoping someone will take you seriously.

Innocent serbs were killed during the war.

KLA probably commited some crimes.

But the extent of these accusations is a complete joke. They should have at least tone them down a little bit to at least make them sound more believable.

"Forced a father to have intercourse with his daughter."

I am not sure how Mr.Prosecutor does it, but other men have to be sexually aroused to be able to have intercourse!! Having a gun pointed at you and being forced to have sex with your own daughter, is not exactly a turn on is it!

If I had faith in the serbian justice system, I would say wait till the jury makes the verdict, but as we all know, a fair trail cannot be expected.

But believe me, if it were true that they committed the crimes that they are accused of, then I would join MikeC in calling for death penalty

"Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.
(MikeC, 30 September 2009 22:52)

Exactly. Serbia has something called credibility precisely because it has charged, tried, and convicted its own people. This is something ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have not done. Why is this?

Let the justice system work - if guilty, may they burn for it. If not guilty, then so be it and set them free. Despite some Albanian claims to the contrary, Serbia today is not Serbia in 1999. They are under a microscope by the international community, and to some Albanians' disappointment, they are moving forward, not backward. (Jason)"

Both of you,

Try to learn the facts before you make comments.

A number of albanians have been convicted in Kosovo for crimes commited during the war. I'll name a few: (Rustem Dema, Enver Axhami, Ejup Runjeva, Latif Gashi, Nazif Mehmeti, Naim Kadriu and others)

In the last few days the trial of 'Llapi Group' is coming to an end.

It is true that these convictions and procesuctions are being organised in collaboration with UN due to Kosovo's judicary system still being new and inexperienced, but the bottom line is that more albanians have been convicted in Kosovo for crimes during the war than serbs in Serbia, despite the fact that the majority and worst crimes were commited in a organised manner by Serbian state and paramilitary / military forces.

There has only been one or two convictions in Serbia regarding crimes commited in Kosovo....WOW, big deal! These were serbs 'soldiers' / criminals at the bottom of the command. There are tens of thousands like them who are living free in Serbia AND in Kosovo, who have commited many more atrocious crimes.

While the recent conviction of the war criminals regading the massacre of Berisha family in Suhareka is welcomed, Serbia has a long long long way to go before you two can take the moral high ground.

And do not reply back saying Serbia handed over Milosevic and others to Hague, because as we all know that did not happen because of guilt due to crimes against albanians or justice, but you simply sold them to EU/US for money (aid) and visa-free travel.

Hence after reading B92's colorful description of accusations I just thought: What the heck, I just throw some more. As you can see from the comments the audience is thrilled with such "facts".
(miri, 1 October 2009 01:47)

Given the recent "harsh" sentences for similar things (Tuzla, Bytyqi) probably the most serious crime on your list is the voo-doo dance. Even if all the rest is true, the defense should focus on that. If I calculate the ratio of (victims * crime gravity)/(number of perpetrators) and adjust it with the recent judgements, all the accused can fear is "jedan crveni" (10000 RSD) fine + one week of house arrest + community work. But voo-doo dance is unusual, here the judge can add an other "crveni".

In any case, Serbia is probably now the world's second in the fight for the abolishment of unusual and cruel penalties for any kind of crime. Hungary is the champion. You can steal money from your company (a public employer like BKV) each month and don't even get charged or arrested if the case is discovered.

miri, you must be a part of that trial: you know much more details.
(passing by, 30 September 2009 23:40)

No I am not, I work for B92. Hence after reading B92's colorful description of accusations I just thought: What the heck, I just throw some more. As you can see from the comments the audience is thrilled with such "facts".

miri,
the problem is, that ordinary people can not even imagine (I'm not talking about performing) such things.
Again, ordinary people.
(passing by, 1 October 2009 23:05)

Are you referring to B92's description of these accusations? Or are you saying that I am not an ordinary "people" but an "extra-ordinary"? Thanks, I have nothing to show on that remark though, but you made me blush.

MikeC,

I can see your enthusiasm in stomaching everything what Serbian propaganda put it on market.

I haven't got any faith in Serbia's judicial system but saying that the court hasn't given its verdict yet!!! When are you going to learn the basic of democracy and human rights?

"The incitement further states that the defendants broke the fingers of captured civilians using a square pipe, extracted their teeth and nails with pliers, stabbed their tongues with knives, drove lighters through holes made in the victims' skulls, strangled them with wires and bags, cut off their genitalia with machetes, cut their throats with knives and raped a large number of women.

In order to cover up their crimes, the prosecution says, those accused butchered the bodies of their victims with axes and chainsaws, put them in bags, which were then thrown into dumpsters next to the boarding facility (Dom Internata)."

B92! You forgot the following:

They also peeled off the skin from the bodies (like an orange) and drank their victims' blood with plastic straws.
They ate the victims hearts while the organs were still pumping.
They made night lamps with victims sculls.
They took out victims eyeballs and used them to play marbles.
They also killed and baked 3 bavies and ate them after having a "voo doo" dance.
A necklace made of victims bones and teeth was found in the neck of one of the accuser.

Absolutely outlandish accusations. Headline grabbing, low blow, third world class, tabliod accusations. There is something to learn here however. I bet the prosecution found many of the torture techniques they accuses the defendants of from the war manuals of serb wolves, scorpions eagles and red-berets. Finally someone is going to trial for these horrific crimes, except I think Serbia may have arrested the wrong side, because the real culprits are amongst their own ranks.

After reading what these cowards stand accused of I must say I'm shocked. How can anyone do something like this and still live with himself? Animals don't do this to other animals. This is horrific. It would even make albanias allies during WW2, Adolf Hitler, sick to his stomach! I heard about these events during the war but this time they are more detailed. I hope the convicted ones will rot in prison. They deserve nothing less!

Thank you Serbia for bringing these men to justice!

These are the people who america and their "western" buddies supported, and still do to this day. They covered up all their gruesome crimes as well as their own. They continue to lobby for theft of Serbian land to give to these terrorist fantatics on a plate. What a disgrace!!!

miri, you must be a part of that trial: you know much more details.
(passing by, 30 September 2009 23:40)

No I am not, I work for B92. Hence after reading B92's colorful description of accusations I just thought: What the heck, I just throw some more. As you can see from the comments the audience is thrilled with such "facts".

"Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.
(MikeC, 30 September 2009 22:52)

Exactly. Serbia has something called credibility precisely because it has charged, tried, and convicted its own people. This is something ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have not done. Why is this?

Let the justice system work - if guilty, may they burn for it. If not guilty, then so be it and set them free. Despite some Albanian claims to the contrary, Serbia today is not Serbia in 1999. They are under a microscope by the international community, and to some Albanians' disappointment, they are moving forward, not backward. (Jason)"

Both of you,

Try to learn the facts before you make comments.

A number of albanians have been convicted in Kosovo for crimes commited during the war. I'll name a few: (Rustem Dema, Enver Axhami, Ejup Runjeva, Latif Gashi, Nazif Mehmeti, Naim Kadriu and others)

In the last few days the trial of 'Llapi Group' is coming to an end.

It is true that these convictions and procesuctions are being organised in collaboration with UN due to Kosovo's judicary system still being new and inexperienced, but the bottom line is that more albanians have been convicted in Kosovo for crimes during the war than serbs in Serbia, despite the fact that the majority and worst crimes were commited in a organised manner by Serbian state and paramilitary / military forces.

There has only been one or two convictions in Serbia regarding crimes commited in Kosovo....WOW, big deal! These were serbs 'soldiers' / criminals at the bottom of the command. There are tens of thousands like them who are living free in Serbia AND in Kosovo, who have commited many more atrocious crimes.

While the recent conviction of the war criminals regading the massacre of Berisha family in Suhareka is welcomed, Serbia has a long long long way to go before you two can take the moral high ground.

And do not reply back saying Serbia handed over Milosevic and others to Hague, because as we all know that did not happen because of guilt due to crimes against albanians or justice, but you simply sold them to EU/US for money (aid) and visa-free travel.

Innocent serbs were killed during the war.

KLA probably commited some crimes.

But the extent of these accusations is a complete joke. They should have at least tone them down a little bit to at least make them sound more believable.

"Forced a father to have intercourse with his daughter."

I am not sure how Mr.Prosecutor does it, but other men have to be sexually aroused to be able to have intercourse!! Having a gun pointed at you and being forced to have sex with your own daughter, is not exactly a turn on is it!

If I had faith in the serbian justice system, I would say wait till the jury makes the verdict, but as we all know, a fair trail cannot be expected.

But believe me, if it were true that they committed the crimes that they are accused of, then I would join MikeC in calling for death penalty

miri, you must be a part of that trial: you know much more details.

miri,
the problem is, that ordinary people can not even imagine (I'm not talking about performing) such things.
Again, ordinary people.
(passing by, 1 October 2009 23:05)

Are you referring to B92's description of these accusations? Or are you saying that I am not an ordinary "people" but an "extra-ordinary"? Thanks, I have nothing to show on that remark though, but you made me blush.

Sounds like the work of a typical albanian terrorists.

Comments by albanians is to be expected, innocent as the wind driven snow...but we know better. These guys are on an express elevator to hell...going down.

It is so sad that these sadistic scumbags will get away with their barbaric crimes.

Hence after reading B92's colorful description of accusations I just thought: What the heck, I just throw some more. As you can see from the comments the audience is thrilled with such "facts".
(miri, 1 October 2009 01:47)

Given the recent "harsh" sentences for similar things (Tuzla, Bytyqi) probably the most serious crime on your list is the voo-doo dance. Even if all the rest is true, the defense should focus on that. If I calculate the ratio of (victims * crime gravity)/(number of perpetrators) and adjust it with the recent judgements, all the accused can fear is "jedan crveni" (10000 RSD) fine + one week of house arrest + community work. But voo-doo dance is unusual, here the judge can add an other "crveni".

In any case, Serbia is probably now the world's second in the fight for the abolishment of unusual and cruel penalties for any kind of crime. Hungary is the champion. You can steal money from your company (a public employer like BKV) each month and don't even get charged or arrested if the case is discovered.

having a "voo doo" dance.
A necklace made of victims bones and teeth was found in the neck of one of the accuser.
(miri, 30 September 2009 21:07)

How low one can go...., it must be difficult for you to sleep peacefully..

Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.
(MikeC, 30 September 2009 22:52)

Exactly. Serbia has something called credibility precisely because it has charged, tried, and convicted its own people. This is something ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have not done. Why is this?

Let the justice system work - if guilty, may they burn for it. If not guilty, then so be it and set them free. Despite some Albanian claims to the contrary, Serbia today is not Serbia in 1999. They are under a microscope by the international community, and to some Albanians' disappointment, they are moving forward, not backward.

Albanians have been getting away from their warcrimes for far to long. Albanians are convinced that not a single crime was commited against Serbs, even though there is overwhelming evidence of the oposit. Therefore every attempt to convict suspected Albanians are rejected by them.

EA

Nobody cares if you believe in Serbias legal system. Serbia has convicted Serbs for warcrimes. How many Albanians have Albanians convicted for the same? NONE!Why is that? However, Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Serbias legal system since not even one country has complained about these arrests. Besides, Serbia certainly wouldn't get white schengen with a corrupt legal system.

If I had faith in the serbian justice system, I would say wait till the jury makes the verdict, but as we all know, a fair trail cannot be expected.

But believe me, if it were true that they committed the crimes that they are accused of, then I would join MikeC in calling for death penalty
(nikshala, 1 October 2009 01:00)

Who is "we all"? I have faith in the Serbian system so you are obviously not representing me here and I am quite sure many, many more. So who is "we all"?

How do you know that it is not true? Were you with these people at those times they are accused of committing these crimes so you can vouch for their whereabouts?

You don't know anything. You are just stabbing in the dark here hoping someone will take you seriously.

miri,
the problem is, that ordinary people can not even imagine (I'm not talking about performing) such things.
Again, ordinary people.