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Sunday, 27.09.2009.

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Berisha calls for more Kosovo recognitions

At this weekend’s UN General Assembly session, Albanian Prime Minister Sali Berisha called on UN member-states to recognize Kosovo.

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midwest_bo

pre 14 godina

It's good to see that the recognition train has ground to a halt. Recognitions have largely been limited to states that must remain pliant to the U.S., such as its NATO allies, or micro-states who can't imagine the harm in atomizing the map of Europe, and couldn't care less.

An interesting question for the enlightened observers here is what other states might possibly recognize Kosovo as independent? Let's assume that the ICJ equivocates. If the ICJ comes down firmly in Serbia's favor, expect withdrawal of recognitions by a few red-faced diplomats.

I don't see many new recognitions. The vast majority of the nations in the world realize that they are scuttling international law if they do so. Some countries are big enough, or isolated enough, not to care. But for most of the planet, recognizing Kosovo is the diplomatic equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

PRO-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Keep dreaming Mr. Berisha! As long as the Russians and the Chinese and other big states like India, Argentina, Brazil, Libya and many others opposed your ”Kosova” it will never be a state and will REMAINED as a Serbian Province.

Alexandros

pre 14 godina

Berisha?????
Is this the same man who stole Albanian's money with pyramids trick and led his country to a civil war in 1996???
Albanians have the goverment they deserve....

stariVujadin

pre 14 godina

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.
(KOSOVARi, 28 September 2009 17:17)

- is this on planet earth or among albanian speaking nations???

Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

- do you think the % of serbs would go UP or DOWN if we 'include' kosovo?? i love how some albanian posters totally kill their 'point' by commenting...

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.”

I am really shocked by such kind of comments coming from this commenter. She posts frequently such extremely negative comments. According to you logic you suggest Serbia to close down its embassies in Albania, Croatia, BiH and probably Slovenia and some important EU countries. I am afraid it would be wise choice from Serbian side since the isolation doesn’t serve for anything good even to Serbian peoples at all. As for Albania of course you wouldn’t expect nothing else than support for Kosovo people the same you gave to Serbs from Kraina and BiH. Watch you self in the mirror first and then criticize the others. The point nowadays is to work together for the better future. If you Serbs think you are still first class citizen of Balkan then I wish you good luck in your own way. Albanian will find for sure better ways even when they are not invited in such regional conferences organized by Serbs.

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

SJ,

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.

I know for a fact that the serbian dinar has been depreciating. This year alone it hit 19-23 percent (?). Lets see what the future brings.

Ron

pre 14 godina

So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

My dear Rovena,

Kosovo is a province located in Serbia. Kosovo is not a state!

Ace

pre 14 godina

Step by step:
1. kicked serbian state from Kosova,
2. declaire Independence, and
3.Join with Albania.
(Behari, 28 September 2009 09:57)

You forgot...

4. wake up from dreamland and realize you are still in Serbia.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

I don't think any more serious recognitions will come form Kosovo (except for US Pacific Islands that have not done so yet).

Definitely not Russia or China.

sj

pre 14 godina

KOSOVARi

Albania emerging as what? freemaket reforms, are you kidding. What exactly does Albania have to privatise? sheppard’s? mountains or better yet its level of criminality.

Perhaps you might ask yourselves why are its inhabitants leaving in large numbers to other parts of Europe. Kosovars to integrate with Albania and what will the 2 million new citizens do for work. – don’t expect the US to help you out because they are only interested in Camp Bondsteel or better still some can try and get a job on the base if they can – the US does not trust you.

Marinel

pre 14 godina

Dear Sir or Madam:
I will keep this comment brief.
To all interested parties on this site I ask one and only one question...
Is there some point in all the hypocracy I read in the comments... particulary from the K-Albanians?
I mean just yesterday all I kept reading about was how poor Tadic this and that has to beg the world not to recognize Kosovo at the UN meeting. Now that Berisha asks the UN memeber nations for the opposite, suddenly it is the perfect forum and he is the bravest, most wonderful man alive for doing so.
Whenever something in the news deals with Serbia, the K-Albanians, and the resident Frisco troll, are all over it. They systematically devour it to nit pick the worst of all possible scenarios and systematically apply it to the basest of Serb behavior.
However, change the scenario to one involving Kosovo or Albanians and sudennly they are the meekest of souls, the champions of truth, justice, and the American way.
I think the K-Albanians should stop with all of their Milosevic propaganda... The world aint buying it anymore. Don't you know that it is "like soooo 99?"
Cheers!!

Kreshnik

pre 14 godina

My fellow Balkanians, Albania is all about making money now and dances to the tune of both Brussels and Washington DC and simply wants there not to be any trouble. That can only be the case if Kosovo gets full UN recognition. That's all. Otherwise....

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!
(Walter, 27 September 2009 19:50) "

Sorry - my slip up on the location - was answering a call from Watford when I wrote my post.

Mark

pre 14 godina

On the world stage, Kosovo or rather the KS Albanian cause, LEBENSRAUM FUR ALBANIEN, is of no importance. The countries that recognized had no internal problems, and the countries that have not recognized yet don't give a damn or have problems of their own.

Kosovo is insignificant realize that, the only reason why the EU and US recognized you is because they see KS Albanians as a threat to security because they have a history of getting their way by resistance and force.

Recognition means controlling movement and enforcing EU rules and regulations, controlling a 'potential problem' aka crime and potential conflict in Europe.

GSP

pre 14 godina

Showing support to an illegal nation that has no financial backbone is a green light to admittal for financial support & all the problems that come along with it.

There are enough problems in the world without recoginition of an illegal country - let alone Albania having their two cents in the mix.

I thought there wasn't a connection....HA!

CCCC

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The Albanian Prime Minister called on governments of UN member-states to “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

In other words, recognise or else. According to Berisha there will never be peace unless Albanians get what they want. Good incentive for the world.

Marinels

pre 14 godina

"Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'... "

You are pretty misinformed as always RON - 1244. He is not the president of Albania but the prime minister.

roberto

pre 14 godina

I agree with Berisha, of course, and would like to see the world moving forward, not backwards. it will happen, but it will take time.

also i would like to take this opportunity to wish my fellow jews, and our frnds around the world, all the best as we prepare to begin our Yom Kippur, our day of atonement. which is considered the holiest day of our calendar. even for very secularized types like myself, there is typically a return to our congregations, our temples or synagogues, for prayer and meditation.

i think that on a global site it is appropriate to acknowledge such matters, but since it is not, i shall.

thank you and shalom.

roberto

Walter

pre 14 godina

lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Ron the great Philosopher!

'Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...'

Geez Ron I dont know, could it be Albania borders Kosovo or majority of Kosovo's population are Albanians, what do you make of it Great Ron?

'Very strange...'

Indeed strange, just as the sun goes up in east.

'So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...'

Maybe it is, how many 90% ethnic majority states do you see calling themself multi-ethnic?

'DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!'

It sure aint Serbian either, you quote me one paragraph in Resolution 1244 where it states Kosovo being a part of Serbia and not Yugoslavia, can you? Or do you call Yugoslavia Serbian, propably why it could not any longer exist, but no need going there.

Rovena

pre 14 godina

To Ron,
Kosovo is a country inhabitet by a large majority of albanians (92 % -source Wiki).
Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??

ida

pre 14 godina

Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.

Mike

pre 14 godina

That it's not happening on the wide scale many predicted has already indicated such recognitions, even if a few trickle in, will have no bearing on Kosovo's limited and contested sovereignty.

berat

pre 14 godina

To Uli

you propaganda sound the same as milosevicis did during his regime, nobody will ever buy your story( apart from our friends here Peggy Mikec Milan and co)

Regrads

Berat

uli

pre 14 godina

Sali Berisha act like a patriot but in 90,s he was giving oil to Milosevic when Serbia had an Embargo. Sali Berisha either has changed or want to look better towards Kosovo Albanians. I think that no matter who the prime minister is in Albania- foreign policy for Kosovo is the same. Albanian media was taking about a meeting he had with Tadic last week. Anyone has news on this?

Ron

pre 14 godina

Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...

Very strange...

So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...

DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

There are hardly any Serbs left that cannot protect themselves which is why the exodus has slowed down. I'm sure that if they all came back, and trouble started again the Albo's would make sure that they would kick them out again.

I wonder if Berisha can give an exact figure as to how many Serbs have returned, and what percentage of the pre war Serb population that is. I'll bet it's a tiny number.

I love this phrase often quoted by Albo's and the US, and EU " “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

The reality - what exactly the "reality"? The reality is that the US has decided that Kosovo is strategically important to it and has in effect offered it's protection and put it's puppets in charge. If there was a true reconciliation between Serbs and Albo's then that would be something worth talking about but while the US imposes it's will upon Serbia that isn't going to happen.

As for the IMF and World Bank it'll be interesting to see how that pans out for Kosovo in the future after the G20 meeting. The devloping nations aregoing to get more votes so in theory Kosovo could be kicked out of the IMF and World Bank when the voting struture changes. It'll be interesting to see whether Serbia pursues this or not.

Hank the tank

pre 14 godina

Oh no! Albania, being one of the richest countries in the world, is going to start paying huge amounts of money to nations to recognize Kosovo. Serbia is in big big trouble.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"After the proclamation of Kosovo independence, “the inter-ethnic tensions have decreased significantly, the departure of Serbs from Kosovo has stopped, and a process of the return of many Serb families has begun," Berisha said in New York."

Can Berisha provide concrete data as to how many K-Serbs have really "begun" to return to Kosovo? I thought not.


"Berisha said that 63 UN member-states recognized Kosovo, which has become a member of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, but added that Kosovo “has yet to take the place it deserves among sovereign states in this prestigious organization.”

UN membership for Kosovo? This will remain Berisha's pipe dream. No way to get past the Chinese and Russian vetoes.

As for IMF and WB, these are not institutions based on the democratic one-state-one-vote system. The West currently holds a disproportionate percentage of the voting shares based on their past economic contribution. Hopefully this undemocratic system will be somewhat alleviated in the near future when growing economies like China and Brazil start to gain greater shares of the voting allocations -- the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues. The West is naturally reluctant and apprehensive of course. But they know this is inevitable as the relative global economic strenghts shift from West to East and South. And Obama and Geithner are growing more desperate than ever to prolong the arrival of the day when the world finally dumps the greenback as the world's main reserve currency.

EA

pre 14 godina

That is the way forward. How about Serbia looking for blocking tactics. Jeremic even did make a protest because he did not want to see Sejdiu in the UN)))

Hank the tank

pre 14 godina

Oh no! Albania, being one of the richest countries in the world, is going to start paying huge amounts of money to nations to recognize Kosovo. Serbia is in big big trouble.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...

Very strange...

So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...

DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

There are hardly any Serbs left that cannot protect themselves which is why the exodus has slowed down. I'm sure that if they all came back, and trouble started again the Albo's would make sure that they would kick them out again.

I wonder if Berisha can give an exact figure as to how many Serbs have returned, and what percentage of the pre war Serb population that is. I'll bet it's a tiny number.

I love this phrase often quoted by Albo's and the US, and EU " “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

The reality - what exactly the "reality"? The reality is that the US has decided that Kosovo is strategically important to it and has in effect offered it's protection and put it's puppets in charge. If there was a true reconciliation between Serbs and Albo's then that would be something worth talking about but while the US imposes it's will upon Serbia that isn't going to happen.

As for the IMF and World Bank it'll be interesting to see how that pans out for Kosovo in the future after the G20 meeting. The devloping nations aregoing to get more votes so in theory Kosovo could be kicked out of the IMF and World Bank when the voting struture changes. It'll be interesting to see whether Serbia pursues this or not.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"After the proclamation of Kosovo independence, “the inter-ethnic tensions have decreased significantly, the departure of Serbs from Kosovo has stopped, and a process of the return of many Serb families has begun," Berisha said in New York."

Can Berisha provide concrete data as to how many K-Serbs have really "begun" to return to Kosovo? I thought not.


"Berisha said that 63 UN member-states recognized Kosovo, which has become a member of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, but added that Kosovo “has yet to take the place it deserves among sovereign states in this prestigious organization.”

UN membership for Kosovo? This will remain Berisha's pipe dream. No way to get past the Chinese and Russian vetoes.

As for IMF and WB, these are not institutions based on the democratic one-state-one-vote system. The West currently holds a disproportionate percentage of the voting shares based on their past economic contribution. Hopefully this undemocratic system will be somewhat alleviated in the near future when growing economies like China and Brazil start to gain greater shares of the voting allocations -- the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues. The West is naturally reluctant and apprehensive of course. But they know this is inevitable as the relative global economic strenghts shift from West to East and South. And Obama and Geithner are growing more desperate than ever to prolong the arrival of the day when the world finally dumps the greenback as the world's main reserve currency.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The Albanian Prime Minister called on governments of UN member-states to “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

In other words, recognise or else. According to Berisha there will never be peace unless Albanians get what they want. Good incentive for the world.

EA

pre 14 godina

That is the way forward. How about Serbia looking for blocking tactics. Jeremic even did make a protest because he did not want to see Sejdiu in the UN)))

ida

pre 14 godina

Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.

GSP

pre 14 godina

Showing support to an illegal nation that has no financial backbone is a green light to admittal for financial support & all the problems that come along with it.

There are enough problems in the world without recoginition of an illegal country - let alone Albania having their two cents in the mix.

I thought there wasn't a connection....HA!

CCCC

Rovena

pre 14 godina

To Ron,
Kosovo is a country inhabitet by a large majority of albanians (92 % -source Wiki).
Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??

Mike

pre 14 godina

That it's not happening on the wide scale many predicted has already indicated such recognitions, even if a few trickle in, will have no bearing on Kosovo's limited and contested sovereignty.

Marinel

pre 14 godina

Dear Sir or Madam:
I will keep this comment brief.
To all interested parties on this site I ask one and only one question...
Is there some point in all the hypocracy I read in the comments... particulary from the K-Albanians?
I mean just yesterday all I kept reading about was how poor Tadic this and that has to beg the world not to recognize Kosovo at the UN meeting. Now that Berisha asks the UN memeber nations for the opposite, suddenly it is the perfect forum and he is the bravest, most wonderful man alive for doing so.
Whenever something in the news deals with Serbia, the K-Albanians, and the resident Frisco troll, are all over it. They systematically devour it to nit pick the worst of all possible scenarios and systematically apply it to the basest of Serb behavior.
However, change the scenario to one involving Kosovo or Albanians and sudennly they are the meekest of souls, the champions of truth, justice, and the American way.
I think the K-Albanians should stop with all of their Milosevic propaganda... The world aint buying it anymore. Don't you know that it is "like soooo 99?"
Cheers!!

uli

pre 14 godina

Sali Berisha act like a patriot but in 90,s he was giving oil to Milosevic when Serbia had an Embargo. Sali Berisha either has changed or want to look better towards Kosovo Albanians. I think that no matter who the prime minister is in Albania- foreign policy for Kosovo is the same. Albanian media was taking about a meeting he had with Tadic last week. Anyone has news on this?

sj

pre 14 godina

KOSOVARi

Albania emerging as what? freemaket reforms, are you kidding. What exactly does Albania have to privatise? sheppard’s? mountains or better yet its level of criminality.

Perhaps you might ask yourselves why are its inhabitants leaving in large numbers to other parts of Europe. Kosovars to integrate with Albania and what will the 2 million new citizens do for work. – don’t expect the US to help you out because they are only interested in Camp Bondsteel or better still some can try and get a job on the base if they can – the US does not trust you.

berat

pre 14 godina

To Uli

you propaganda sound the same as milosevicis did during his regime, nobody will ever buy your story( apart from our friends here Peggy Mikec Milan and co)

Regrads

Berat

Ron

pre 14 godina

So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

My dear Rovena,

Kosovo is a province located in Serbia. Kosovo is not a state!

Ace

pre 14 godina

Step by step:
1. kicked serbian state from Kosova,
2. declaire Independence, and
3.Join with Albania.
(Behari, 28 September 2009 09:57)

You forgot...

4. wake up from dreamland and realize you are still in Serbia.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Ron the great Philosopher!

'Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...'

Geez Ron I dont know, could it be Albania borders Kosovo or majority of Kosovo's population are Albanians, what do you make of it Great Ron?

'Very strange...'

Indeed strange, just as the sun goes up in east.

'So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...'

Maybe it is, how many 90% ethnic majority states do you see calling themself multi-ethnic?

'DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!'

It sure aint Serbian either, you quote me one paragraph in Resolution 1244 where it states Kosovo being a part of Serbia and not Yugoslavia, can you? Or do you call Yugoslavia Serbian, propably why it could not any longer exist, but no need going there.

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.”

I am really shocked by such kind of comments coming from this commenter. She posts frequently such extremely negative comments. According to you logic you suggest Serbia to close down its embassies in Albania, Croatia, BiH and probably Slovenia and some important EU countries. I am afraid it would be wise choice from Serbian side since the isolation doesn’t serve for anything good even to Serbian peoples at all. As for Albania of course you wouldn’t expect nothing else than support for Kosovo people the same you gave to Serbs from Kraina and BiH. Watch you self in the mirror first and then criticize the others. The point nowadays is to work together for the better future. If you Serbs think you are still first class citizen of Balkan then I wish you good luck in your own way. Albanian will find for sure better ways even when they are not invited in such regional conferences organized by Serbs.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

I don't think any more serious recognitions will come form Kosovo (except for US Pacific Islands that have not done so yet).

Definitely not Russia or China.

Marinels

pre 14 godina

"Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'... "

You are pretty misinformed as always RON - 1244. He is not the president of Albania but the prime minister.

roberto

pre 14 godina

I agree with Berisha, of course, and would like to see the world moving forward, not backwards. it will happen, but it will take time.

also i would like to take this opportunity to wish my fellow jews, and our frnds around the world, all the best as we prepare to begin our Yom Kippur, our day of atonement. which is considered the holiest day of our calendar. even for very secularized types like myself, there is typically a return to our congregations, our temples or synagogues, for prayer and meditation.

i think that on a global site it is appropriate to acknowledge such matters, but since it is not, i shall.

thank you and shalom.

roberto

Mark

pre 14 godina

On the world stage, Kosovo or rather the KS Albanian cause, LEBENSRAUM FUR ALBANIEN, is of no importance. The countries that recognized had no internal problems, and the countries that have not recognized yet don't give a damn or have problems of their own.

Kosovo is insignificant realize that, the only reason why the EU and US recognized you is because they see KS Albanians as a threat to security because they have a history of getting their way by resistance and force.

Recognition means controlling movement and enforcing EU rules and regulations, controlling a 'potential problem' aka crime and potential conflict in Europe.

Walter

pre 14 godina

lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

SJ,

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.

I know for a fact that the serbian dinar has been depreciating. This year alone it hit 19-23 percent (?). Lets see what the future brings.

stariVujadin

pre 14 godina

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.
(KOSOVARi, 28 September 2009 17:17)

- is this on planet earth or among albanian speaking nations???

Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

- do you think the % of serbs would go UP or DOWN if we 'include' kosovo?? i love how some albanian posters totally kill their 'point' by commenting...

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!
(Walter, 27 September 2009 19:50) "

Sorry - my slip up on the location - was answering a call from Watford when I wrote my post.

PRO-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Keep dreaming Mr. Berisha! As long as the Russians and the Chinese and other big states like India, Argentina, Brazil, Libya and many others opposed your ”Kosova” it will never be a state and will REMAINED as a Serbian Province.

Kreshnik

pre 14 godina

My fellow Balkanians, Albania is all about making money now and dances to the tune of both Brussels and Washington DC and simply wants there not to be any trouble. That can only be the case if Kosovo gets full UN recognition. That's all. Otherwise....

Alexandros

pre 14 godina

Berisha?????
Is this the same man who stole Albanian's money with pyramids trick and led his country to a civil war in 1996???
Albanians have the goverment they deserve....

midwest_bo

pre 14 godina

It's good to see that the recognition train has ground to a halt. Recognitions have largely been limited to states that must remain pliant to the U.S., such as its NATO allies, or micro-states who can't imagine the harm in atomizing the map of Europe, and couldn't care less.

An interesting question for the enlightened observers here is what other states might possibly recognize Kosovo as independent? Let's assume that the ICJ equivocates. If the ICJ comes down firmly in Serbia's favor, expect withdrawal of recognitions by a few red-faced diplomats.

I don't see many new recognitions. The vast majority of the nations in the world realize that they are scuttling international law if they do so. Some countries are big enough, or isolated enough, not to care. But for most of the planet, recognizing Kosovo is the diplomatic equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

Ron

pre 14 godina

Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...

Very strange...

So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...

DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!

EA

pre 14 godina

That is the way forward. How about Serbia looking for blocking tactics. Jeremic even did make a protest because he did not want to see Sejdiu in the UN)))

Hank the tank

pre 14 godina

Oh no! Albania, being one of the richest countries in the world, is going to start paying huge amounts of money to nations to recognize Kosovo. Serbia is in big big trouble.

roberto

pre 14 godina

I agree with Berisha, of course, and would like to see the world moving forward, not backwards. it will happen, but it will take time.

also i would like to take this opportunity to wish my fellow jews, and our frnds around the world, all the best as we prepare to begin our Yom Kippur, our day of atonement. which is considered the holiest day of our calendar. even for very secularized types like myself, there is typically a return to our congregations, our temples or synagogues, for prayer and meditation.

i think that on a global site it is appropriate to acknowledge such matters, but since it is not, i shall.

thank you and shalom.

roberto

berat

pre 14 godina

To Uli

you propaganda sound the same as milosevicis did during his regime, nobody will ever buy your story( apart from our friends here Peggy Mikec Milan and co)

Regrads

Berat

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

Ron the great Philosopher!

'Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'...'

Geez Ron I dont know, could it be Albania borders Kosovo or majority of Kosovo's population are Albanians, what do you make of it Great Ron?

'Very strange...'

Indeed strange, just as the sun goes up in east.

'So maybe Kosovo is an second Albanian state. Maybe this talk about being multi-ethnic is just... talk...'

Maybe it is, how many 90% ethnic majority states do you see calling themself multi-ethnic?

'DISCLAIMER: Kosovo is not a state. Check 1244!'

It sure aint Serbian either, you quote me one paragraph in Resolution 1244 where it states Kosovo being a part of Serbia and not Yugoslavia, can you? Or do you call Yugoslavia Serbian, propably why it could not any longer exist, but no need going there.

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

There are hardly any Serbs left that cannot protect themselves which is why the exodus has slowed down. I'm sure that if they all came back, and trouble started again the Albo's would make sure that they would kick them out again.

I wonder if Berisha can give an exact figure as to how many Serbs have returned, and what percentage of the pre war Serb population that is. I'll bet it's a tiny number.

I love this phrase often quoted by Albo's and the US, and EU " “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

The reality - what exactly the "reality"? The reality is that the US has decided that Kosovo is strategically important to it and has in effect offered it's protection and put it's puppets in charge. If there was a true reconciliation between Serbs and Albo's then that would be something worth talking about but while the US imposes it's will upon Serbia that isn't going to happen.

As for the IMF and World Bank it'll be interesting to see how that pans out for Kosovo in the future after the G20 meeting. The devloping nations aregoing to get more votes so in theory Kosovo could be kicked out of the IMF and World Bank when the voting struture changes. It'll be interesting to see whether Serbia pursues this or not.

GSP

pre 14 godina

Showing support to an illegal nation that has no financial backbone is a green light to admittal for financial support & all the problems that come along with it.

There are enough problems in the world without recoginition of an illegal country - let alone Albania having their two cents in the mix.

I thought there wasn't a connection....HA!

CCCC

lowe

pre 14 godina

"After the proclamation of Kosovo independence, “the inter-ethnic tensions have decreased significantly, the departure of Serbs from Kosovo has stopped, and a process of the return of many Serb families has begun," Berisha said in New York."

Can Berisha provide concrete data as to how many K-Serbs have really "begun" to return to Kosovo? I thought not.


"Berisha said that 63 UN member-states recognized Kosovo, which has become a member of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, but added that Kosovo “has yet to take the place it deserves among sovereign states in this prestigious organization.”

UN membership for Kosovo? This will remain Berisha's pipe dream. No way to get past the Chinese and Russian vetoes.

As for IMF and WB, these are not institutions based on the democratic one-state-one-vote system. The West currently holds a disproportionate percentage of the voting shares based on their past economic contribution. Hopefully this undemocratic system will be somewhat alleviated in the near future when growing economies like China and Brazil start to gain greater shares of the voting allocations -- the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues. The West is naturally reluctant and apprehensive of course. But they know this is inevitable as the relative global economic strenghts shift from West to East and South. And Obama and Geithner are growing more desperate than ever to prolong the arrival of the day when the world finally dumps the greenback as the world's main reserve currency.

Marinels

pre 14 godina

"Why the Albanian president is talking about Kosovo? I thought Kosovo was a unique multi-ethnic 'state'... "

You are pretty misinformed as always RON - 1244. He is not the president of Albania but the prime minister.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

The Albanian Prime Minister called on governments of UN member-states to “recognize the reality which exists in the Balkan region, and the possibility of recognizing Kosovo independence, because it would be a valuable contribution to peace and security in the region.”

In other words, recognise or else. According to Berisha there will never be peace unless Albanians get what they want. Good incentive for the world.

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

I don't think any more serious recognitions will come form Kosovo (except for US Pacific Islands that have not done so yet).

Definitely not Russia or China.

Marinel

pre 14 godina

Dear Sir or Madam:
I will keep this comment brief.
To all interested parties on this site I ask one and only one question...
Is there some point in all the hypocracy I read in the comments... particulary from the K-Albanians?
I mean just yesterday all I kept reading about was how poor Tadic this and that has to beg the world not to recognize Kosovo at the UN meeting. Now that Berisha asks the UN memeber nations for the opposite, suddenly it is the perfect forum and he is the bravest, most wonderful man alive for doing so.
Whenever something in the news deals with Serbia, the K-Albanians, and the resident Frisco troll, are all over it. They systematically devour it to nit pick the worst of all possible scenarios and systematically apply it to the basest of Serb behavior.
However, change the scenario to one involving Kosovo or Albanians and sudennly they are the meekest of souls, the champions of truth, justice, and the American way.
I think the K-Albanians should stop with all of their Milosevic propaganda... The world aint buying it anymore. Don't you know that it is "like soooo 99?"
Cheers!!

sj

pre 14 godina

KOSOVARi

Albania emerging as what? freemaket reforms, are you kidding. What exactly does Albania have to privatise? sheppard’s? mountains or better yet its level of criminality.

Perhaps you might ask yourselves why are its inhabitants leaving in large numbers to other parts of Europe. Kosovars to integrate with Albania and what will the 2 million new citizens do for work. – don’t expect the US to help you out because they are only interested in Camp Bondsteel or better still some can try and get a job on the base if they can – the US does not trust you.

Ron

pre 14 godina

So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

My dear Rovena,

Kosovo is a province located in Serbia. Kosovo is not a state!

uli

pre 14 godina

Sali Berisha act like a patriot but in 90,s he was giving oil to Milosevic when Serbia had an Embargo. Sali Berisha either has changed or want to look better towards Kosovo Albanians. I think that no matter who the prime minister is in Albania- foreign policy for Kosovo is the same. Albanian media was taking about a meeting he had with Tadic last week. Anyone has news on this?

ida

pre 14 godina

Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.

Rovena

pre 14 godina

To Ron,
Kosovo is a country inhabitet by a large majority of albanians (92 % -source Wiki).
Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??

Ace

pre 14 godina

Step by step:
1. kicked serbian state from Kosova,
2. declaire Independence, and
3.Join with Albania.
(Behari, 28 September 2009 09:57)

You forgot...

4. wake up from dreamland and realize you are still in Serbia.

Kreshnik

pre 14 godina

My fellow Balkanians, Albania is all about making money now and dances to the tune of both Brussels and Washington DC and simply wants there not to be any trouble. That can only be the case if Kosovo gets full UN recognition. That's all. Otherwise....

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

SJ,

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.

I know for a fact that the serbian dinar has been depreciating. This year alone it hit 19-23 percent (?). Lets see what the future brings.

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“Why hasn't Serbia closed down its embassy in Albania and the Albanian embassy in Serbia? It was Albania which let its soldiers participate in the Kosovo war and hosted training centers there.

There is nothing good at all in the relationship between Albania and Serbia anyways. It is wasted money for Serbia to have an embassy there and no good for Serbia to have the Albanian one at all.

Serbia has to take action like this as protesting falls on deaf ears. Cut off all ties with Albania.”

I am really shocked by such kind of comments coming from this commenter. She posts frequently such extremely negative comments. According to you logic you suggest Serbia to close down its embassies in Albania, Croatia, BiH and probably Slovenia and some important EU countries. I am afraid it would be wise choice from Serbian side since the isolation doesn’t serve for anything good even to Serbian peoples at all. As for Albania of course you wouldn’t expect nothing else than support for Kosovo people the same you gave to Serbs from Kraina and BiH. Watch you self in the mirror first and then criticize the others. The point nowadays is to work together for the better future. If you Serbs think you are still first class citizen of Balkan then I wish you good luck in your own way. Albanian will find for sure better ways even when they are not invited in such regional conferences organized by Serbs.

stariVujadin

pre 14 godina

Albania had one of the highest (either first place or second) economic growths this year.
(KOSOVARi, 28 September 2009 17:17)

- is this on planet earth or among albanian speaking nations???

Serbia is a country inhabited by a large majority of serbs (82 % -source wiki). Note that the data on serbia are obviously excluding Kosovo.
So, tell me my dear, who is the multiethnic state among the two??
(Rovena, 27 September 2009 18:04)

- do you think the % of serbs would go UP or DOWN if we 'include' kosovo?? i love how some albanian posters totally kill their 'point' by commenting...

Mike

pre 14 godina

That it's not happening on the wide scale many predicted has already indicated such recognitions, even if a few trickle in, will have no bearing on Kosovo's limited and contested sovereignty.

Alexandros

pre 14 godina

Berisha?????
Is this the same man who stole Albanian's money with pyramids trick and led his country to a civil war in 1996???
Albanians have the goverment they deserve....

PRO-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Keep dreaming Mr. Berisha! As long as the Russians and the Chinese and other big states like India, Argentina, Brazil, Libya and many others opposed your ”Kosova” it will never be a state and will REMAINED as a Serbian Province.

Mark

pre 14 godina

On the world stage, Kosovo or rather the KS Albanian cause, LEBENSRAUM FUR ALBANIEN, is of no importance. The countries that recognized had no internal problems, and the countries that have not recognized yet don't give a damn or have problems of their own.

Kosovo is insignificant realize that, the only reason why the EU and US recognized you is because they see KS Albanians as a threat to security because they have a history of getting their way by resistance and force.

Recognition means controlling movement and enforcing EU rules and regulations, controlling a 'potential problem' aka crime and potential conflict in Europe.

midwest_bo

pre 14 godina

It's good to see that the recognition train has ground to a halt. Recognitions have largely been limited to states that must remain pliant to the U.S., such as its NATO allies, or micro-states who can't imagine the harm in atomizing the map of Europe, and couldn't care less.

An interesting question for the enlightened observers here is what other states might possibly recognize Kosovo as independent? Let's assume that the ICJ equivocates. If the ICJ comes down firmly in Serbia's favor, expect withdrawal of recognitions by a few red-faced diplomats.

I don't see many new recognitions. The vast majority of the nations in the world realize that they are scuttling international law if they do so. Some countries are big enough, or isolated enough, not to care. But for most of the planet, recognizing Kosovo is the diplomatic equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!
(Walter, 27 September 2009 19:50) "

Sorry - my slip up on the location - was answering a call from Watford when I wrote my post.

Walter

pre 14 godina

lowe wrote:

"the current G20 meeting in London is already looking into this among other issues."

I believe you are a bit behind in time. The current G20 Meeting was in Pittsburg!