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Thursday, 24.09.2009.

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One Serb freed in case of mistaken identity

One of the five Kosovo Serbs arrested yesterday has been released after it was established that he had been mistaken for another person.

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Peggy

pre 14 godina

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 25 September 2009 06:05)

OMG!! YOU"RE wick of someone racist trash. You should talk. Not only are you racist but you are also a hypocrite.
Some people have even said on this site that they cannot stomach reading any more racist and hypocritical comments from you any more.
Take a look at yourself before you judge others.
You, a judge of what is fair???
Nothing more to say.

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa... take you car, use google maps to get you there...
Canadian Consulate General - Chicago
Two Prudential Plaza
180 North Stetson Avenue, Suite 2400
Chicago, Illinois
USA
60601
Tel: 1 (312) 616-1860
Fax: 1 (312) 616-1878
walk in...

Milan

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.
(PRN, 24 September 2009 16:09)

I more belive international investigitators than You. If You remember - these investigitators were not pro-serbian, but rather they need to find more and more marks of "serbian brutality" etc. They need to find 100 thousands boodies or more, like western propaganda claim. But they don't find these bodies, and they were very confused with this fact. They find mayby 3 mayby 4 thousand bodies - of ALL NATIONALITIES, including UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers and peoples killed by NATO bombs and of course Serbs, Roma, Gorani and Albanians killed by UCK. And according to internationals - there is 2100 missing persons - includindg hundreds of Serbs and Roma.

So - according international investigitators - is impossible, that in Kosovo war were killed nearly 15 thousand Albanians. International investigitators are INDEPENDENT, so any propaganda (both serbian or albanian) is outside them.

Ace

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

Yes, the number keeps growing. Kosovo is the only place on the planet where "genocide" occurred yet the population INCREASED. I think the liars are beginning to believe their own lies.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...
(bob, 24 September 2009 21:14)

Apparently you can't tell the difference between the embassy and consulate.
All foreign embassies are located in Washington, and ech country has one embassy only. Consulates is different sory. You can open as many as you own to provide services to your own people that live in the said country.
You have been to Candain Consulate in Chicago, my friend. Now we see who is making up garbage.

roberto

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco

Mary Walsh

pre 14 godina

This ideed a shameful act, to arrest 5 Serbs on some pretext, it would appear that Eulex is just facilitating the local mafia to get the Serbs out of Novo Brdo and take their property.

Who is conducting a criminal investigation into war crimes committed against the civilian population in Kosovo since June 1999 when NATO arrived with the UCK hot on their heels.

Every town and nearly every village has been cleansed of Serbs and Roma since 1999 and they are arresting the Serbs, nothing has changed at all since EULEX and took over power. In actual fact things have got worse for the Serb population.

This is complete persecution.

Rocky

pre 14 godina

Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 20:04 --
----
Well MikeC, in EUROPE we have only one Black Hole for the last 20 years, and that is SERBIA.
Please MikeC, Try not to blame others.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?
(Demi, 24 September 2009 12:32)

Yes it is with some ill feeling thrown into the mix.

How was one of them arrested because of mistaken identity. Was his name mis spelled and so they got the wrong man or did some Albanian point him out because of personal scores to settle and they realised they will have a hard time pinning anything on him?

Like I said before, if they can find evidence against Serbs for "crimes" committed 10 years ago how come they cannot find even one suspect for all the murders of Serbs now and all the burning or churches only five years ago?
The arsonists are all on film. Easily recognisable.

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...

aRta

pre 14 godina

“The first thing the ministry did was to send a strongly-worded letter asking for an explanation,”

Wow! Watch every tremble now, way to go Ivanovic! This is how you earn your salary at the "Ministry of Kosovo."

MikeC

pre 14 godina

SHall717

How convenient to remember the ill doings of what others did to your people but not what your people have done to others. You seem to forget the brutalization of Serbs by Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians during WW2. This is what I can't stand with our "neighbours". They are all "poor victims" of Serb agression. Well, you didn't think that Serbs would let you murder and torture us once again? Croats, alone, butchered 700.000 Serbs during WW2! You think we would allow for you to once again put us in concentration camps? You think Serbs would just agree to live in a strikt islamic republic? Never! There was no purcecution of Albanians in Kosovo during WW2 despite their siding with the nazis? If there would be, not a single Albanian would be left. And still we are the bad guys. Besides, you said it your self, all Serbs, even those that haven't even been born yet, are guilty. Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

arta,

Why should a state have an embassy in one of its own provinces?

Does the US have an embassy in Texas?
(Ron, 24 September 2009 17:44)

Why would USA amongst many other countries have two embassies in one country??? At least that is what you and others think that Kosova and Serbia are one country!!!

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Serbs shouldn't worry about these arrests as everything is transparent and they should rest assured that no Serb will be shot point-blank on the head while kneeling and handcuffed. This isn't Serbia.

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

Public FYI @ (PJD, 24 September 2009 16:43)

Ivanovic is a rep of Beograd hence embassy for Serbia in Kosova. Way to twist words there buddy.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Even though B92 tries to suppress my info I try it again: Joe...using my name is a different Joe."

For God's sake Joe, B92 neither has the time, nor the interest to "suppress" your information. You do realize the moderators wait a while in order to post a batch of files? You also realize you sound like a conspiracy nut everytime B92 posts your complaints about how B92 never posts your comments?

MikeC

pre 14 godina

These men were quickly judged by albanians as war criminals. Without knowing anything about them albanians at this forum judged them. To albs there are no innocent Serbs. Wonder what you have to say now when at least one of these poor men have been set free? The others should be released as well since this charge is a bunch of bull.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Just to avoid any confusion: The "Joe" who writes under my name is an other...apparently Serbian Joe.
(Joe, 24 September 2009 17:15)

Damn it all! I am sorry to hear that Joe because I was agreeing with you:)

SHall717

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 13:39)

Mike you never fail in your attempts to make everything look like some kind of big conspiracy to rid Kosovo of it's Serb population. The fact is that many Serb villagers aided and abbetted in committing war crimes in Kosovo just like in Bosnia. However, unlike in poor Bosnia, Kosovo citizens do not have to look into the monstous face of the people who murdered their families.
There is a constitution (which is world class by the way) in place and Serb war crime perpretrating villagers will be brought to justice one way or another. At least these Serbs won't get shot in the back by a bunch of cowardly Serb paramilitary wolves, eagles, scorpions etc. We must never forget the Serb massacred their Balkan neigbors and the scars are still fresh, so expect more arrests of this type in Kosove, the war criminals are still out there.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to see EULEX spearheading this. Otherwise this Serb would have been stuck in a KPS jail for far longer. And yes, I do agree with Ivanovic that K Albanians seem quick to arrest any Jovanovic, but seem conveniently perplexed at rooting out the criminals in their own ranks. I can only hope that with the addition of EULEX taking a more active role in overseeing security in the protectorate, a lot more Albanians on the run will be brought to justice.

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.

ida

pre 14 godina

"It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires"

You lie - put up the links. They haven't found that many bodies and even adding the "missing" doesn't equate to that.

Futhermore, they have names of KLA fallen on a memorial wall and it numbers more like 3,000.

Also, the Roma have charged that their people - who had ethnic-Albanian names - who were killed by the KLA and Albanians show up on ethnic Albanian lists as being killed by Serbs.

It is known the Albanians are including Roma deaths as their hands as their own.

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

The NATO has the most blood on its hands, Demi. They indiscriminately bomb the hell out of Kosovo killing more Albanians than the Serb army running after KLA terrorists. But some reason, Pristina keeps kissing their behinds.

PJD

pre 14 godina

PRN - What is the name of the NGO?

aRta - Oliver Ivanović is a Serb from Kosovo so surely you think him to be a citizen of Kosovo. If so then why would he need an embassy? I guess you thinking is that the Serbs of Kosovo are still citizens of Serbia and not Kosovo.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.

aRta

pre 14 godina

Мeanwhile, Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has asked EULEX for an explanation for yesterday’s arrests."

It sucks not having an embassy therey, doesn't it? You are reduced to "asking" on TV. This is just the beginning, anyone that committed an atrocities during the war will be caught and prosecuted, enclave or not. After that EULEX will move to post war crimes.

Innocent till proven guilty

pre 14 godina

I am surprised the names of accused have been released. These people could be innocent and scarred for life just because they were accused of a crime in the first place.

The article is full of if's. These people need justice and in a place like Kosovo am not convinced will get it!

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?"


Show me where is this 12 thousands killed???? UN investigitators finds:
1999 - 2108 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
2000 - 608 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
in next years next few hundreds bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK e.g. bodies of 22 Serbs finds in Mališevo in 2005).

According to Herardo Patrandolfi, the head of the ICRC - over 2100 people of all ethnicities are still registered as missing since the end of the conflict in Kosovo(incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK)

Don't forget, that in this number is peoples killed during NATO bombardment (so - killed by NATO soldiers)

So - show me where is Your 12 thousand peoples killed by Serbs????

Ps. After NATO/UCK gained control over Kosovo territory - there were over 1000 killed Serbs and Albanians (not by serb forces - they withdrawal).

Please - tell me where are UCK terrorists and murders arrested by KPS or EULEX?? I know only one - Gani Gashi sentenced by EULEX for killing ALBANIANS. No one UCK member was sentenced for killing Serbs.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.

Joe

pre 14 godina

There is no doubts that this arrest as grounds of political motivation. I'm off the opoinion that EULEX should extende their Radius of action maybe starting from Skenderaj, Pristina, Vustrin etc. Just to show neutrality. We are talking of allegations and the course of justice should be followed, however “targeting” the Serbian communities, it is to show to the Kosovo Albanians that the protocol with Serbia is in place. Based on the Serbian Kosovo Methodja Minister statement it seems that the cross/exchange of information was not done. Why?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?

A

pre 14 godina

The gold digger that once worked for the Kosovo government says: ” We wouldn’t like that to be seen as interfering in the investigation”. That’ exactly what are you doing but you are not as extreme as Kostunica who would have made ultimatums for their release. The number speaks for themselves during 1997-2000 there were killed 12 000 Albanians and 500 Serbs. Now who has most blood on their hands?

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?"


Show me where is this 12 thousands killed???? UN investigitators finds:
1999 - 2108 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
2000 - 608 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
in next years next few hundreds bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK e.g. bodies of 22 Serbs finds in Mališevo in 2005).

According to Herardo Patrandolfi, the head of the ICRC - over 2100 people of all ethnicities are still registered as missing since the end of the conflict in Kosovo(incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK)

Don't forget, that in this number is peoples killed during NATO bombardment (so - killed by NATO soldiers)

So - show me where is Your 12 thousand peoples killed by Serbs????

Ps. After NATO/UCK gained control over Kosovo territory - there were over 1000 killed Serbs and Albanians (not by serb forces - they withdrawal).

Please - tell me where are UCK terrorists and murders arrested by KPS or EULEX?? I know only one - Gani Gashi sentenced by EULEX for killing ALBANIANS. No one UCK member was sentenced for killing Serbs.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.

Innocent till proven guilty

pre 14 godina

I am surprised the names of accused have been released. These people could be innocent and scarred for life just because they were accused of a crime in the first place.

The article is full of if's. These people need justice and in a place like Kosovo am not convinced will get it!

Joe

pre 14 godina

There is no doubts that this arrest as grounds of political motivation. I'm off the opoinion that EULEX should extende their Radius of action maybe starting from Skenderaj, Pristina, Vustrin etc. Just to show neutrality. We are talking of allegations and the course of justice should be followed, however “targeting” the Serbian communities, it is to show to the Kosovo Albanians that the protocol with Serbia is in place. Based on the Serbian Kosovo Methodja Minister statement it seems that the cross/exchange of information was not done. Why?

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.

A

pre 14 godina

The gold digger that once worked for the Kosovo government says: ” We wouldn’t like that to be seen as interfering in the investigation”. That’ exactly what are you doing but you are not as extreme as Kostunica who would have made ultimatums for their release. The number speaks for themselves during 1997-2000 there were killed 12 000 Albanians and 500 Serbs. Now who has most blood on their hands?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.

aRta

pre 14 godina

Мeanwhile, Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has asked EULEX for an explanation for yesterday’s arrests."

It sucks not having an embassy therey, doesn't it? You are reduced to "asking" on TV. This is just the beginning, anyone that committed an atrocities during the war will be caught and prosecuted, enclave or not. After that EULEX will move to post war crimes.

PJD

pre 14 godina

PRN - What is the name of the NGO?

aRta - Oliver Ivanović is a Serb from Kosovo so surely you think him to be a citizen of Kosovo. If so then why would he need an embassy? I guess you thinking is that the Serbs of Kosovo are still citizens of Serbia and not Kosovo.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

These men were quickly judged by albanians as war criminals. Without knowing anything about them albanians at this forum judged them. To albs there are no innocent Serbs. Wonder what you have to say now when at least one of these poor men have been set free? The others should be released as well since this charge is a bunch of bull.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

SHall717

How convenient to remember the ill doings of what others did to your people but not what your people have done to others. You seem to forget the brutalization of Serbs by Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians during WW2. This is what I can't stand with our "neighbours". They are all "poor victims" of Serb agression. Well, you didn't think that Serbs would let you murder and torture us once again? Croats, alone, butchered 700.000 Serbs during WW2! You think we would allow for you to once again put us in concentration camps? You think Serbs would just agree to live in a strikt islamic republic? Never! There was no purcecution of Albanians in Kosovo during WW2 despite their siding with the nazis? If there would be, not a single Albanian would be left. And still we are the bad guys. Besides, you said it your self, all Serbs, even those that haven't even been born yet, are guilty. Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.

Ace

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

Yes, the number keeps growing. Kosovo is the only place on the planet where "genocide" occurred yet the population INCREASED. I think the liars are beginning to believe their own lies.

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

The NATO has the most blood on its hands, Demi. They indiscriminately bomb the hell out of Kosovo killing more Albanians than the Serb army running after KLA terrorists. But some reason, Pristina keeps kissing their behinds.

ida

pre 14 godina

"It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires"

You lie - put up the links. They haven't found that many bodies and even adding the "missing" doesn't equate to that.

Futhermore, they have names of KLA fallen on a memorial wall and it numbers more like 3,000.

Also, the Roma have charged that their people - who had ethnic-Albanian names - who were killed by the KLA and Albanians show up on ethnic Albanian lists as being killed by Serbs.

It is known the Albanians are including Roma deaths as their hands as their own.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to see EULEX spearheading this. Otherwise this Serb would have been stuck in a KPS jail for far longer. And yes, I do agree with Ivanovic that K Albanians seem quick to arrest any Jovanovic, but seem conveniently perplexed at rooting out the criminals in their own ranks. I can only hope that with the addition of EULEX taking a more active role in overseeing security in the protectorate, a lot more Albanians on the run will be brought to justice.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Just to avoid any confusion: The "Joe" who writes under my name is an other...apparently Serbian Joe.
(Joe, 24 September 2009 17:15)

Damn it all! I am sorry to hear that Joe because I was agreeing with you:)

Mary Walsh

pre 14 godina

This ideed a shameful act, to arrest 5 Serbs on some pretext, it would appear that Eulex is just facilitating the local mafia to get the Serbs out of Novo Brdo and take their property.

Who is conducting a criminal investigation into war crimes committed against the civilian population in Kosovo since June 1999 when NATO arrived with the UCK hot on their heels.

Every town and nearly every village has been cleansed of Serbs and Roma since 1999 and they are arresting the Serbs, nothing has changed at all since EULEX and took over power. In actual fact things have got worse for the Serb population.

This is complete persecution.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Even though B92 tries to suppress my info I try it again: Joe...using my name is a different Joe."

For God's sake Joe, B92 neither has the time, nor the interest to "suppress" your information. You do realize the moderators wait a while in order to post a batch of files? You also realize you sound like a conspiracy nut everytime B92 posts your complaints about how B92 never posts your comments?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

arta,

Why should a state have an embassy in one of its own provinces?

Does the US have an embassy in Texas?
(Ron, 24 September 2009 17:44)

Why would USA amongst many other countries have two embassies in one country??? At least that is what you and others think that Kosova and Serbia are one country!!!

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...

Peggy

pre 14 godina

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 25 September 2009 06:05)

OMG!! YOU"RE wick of someone racist trash. You should talk. Not only are you racist but you are also a hypocrite.
Some people have even said on this site that they cannot stomach reading any more racist and hypocritical comments from you any more.
Take a look at yourself before you judge others.
You, a judge of what is fair???
Nothing more to say.

SHall717

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 13:39)

Mike you never fail in your attempts to make everything look like some kind of big conspiracy to rid Kosovo of it's Serb population. The fact is that many Serb villagers aided and abbetted in committing war crimes in Kosovo just like in Bosnia. However, unlike in poor Bosnia, Kosovo citizens do not have to look into the monstous face of the people who murdered their families.
There is a constitution (which is world class by the way) in place and Serb war crime perpretrating villagers will be brought to justice one way or another. At least these Serbs won't get shot in the back by a bunch of cowardly Serb paramilitary wolves, eagles, scorpions etc. We must never forget the Serb massacred their Balkan neigbors and the scars are still fresh, so expect more arrests of this type in Kosove, the war criminals are still out there.

roberto

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?
(Demi, 24 September 2009 12:32)

Yes it is with some ill feeling thrown into the mix.

How was one of them arrested because of mistaken identity. Was his name mis spelled and so they got the wrong man or did some Albanian point him out because of personal scores to settle and they realised they will have a hard time pinning anything on him?

Like I said before, if they can find evidence against Serbs for "crimes" committed 10 years ago how come they cannot find even one suspect for all the murders of Serbs now and all the burning or churches only five years ago?
The arsonists are all on film. Easily recognisable.

aRta

pre 14 godina

“The first thing the ministry did was to send a strongly-worded letter asking for an explanation,”

Wow! Watch every tremble now, way to go Ivanovic! This is how you earn your salary at the "Ministry of Kosovo."

Rocky

pre 14 godina

Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 20:04 --
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Well MikeC, in EUROPE we have only one Black Hole for the last 20 years, and that is SERBIA.
Please MikeC, Try not to blame others.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...
(bob, 24 September 2009 21:14)

Apparently you can't tell the difference between the embassy and consulate.
All foreign embassies are located in Washington, and ech country has one embassy only. Consulates is different sory. You can open as many as you own to provide services to your own people that live in the said country.
You have been to Candain Consulate in Chicago, my friend. Now we see who is making up garbage.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.
(PRN, 24 September 2009 16:09)

I more belive international investigitators than You. If You remember - these investigitators were not pro-serbian, but rather they need to find more and more marks of "serbian brutality" etc. They need to find 100 thousands boodies or more, like western propaganda claim. But they don't find these bodies, and they were very confused with this fact. They find mayby 3 mayby 4 thousand bodies - of ALL NATIONALITIES, including UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers and peoples killed by NATO bombs and of course Serbs, Roma, Gorani and Albanians killed by UCK. And according to internationals - there is 2100 missing persons - includindg hundreds of Serbs and Roma.

So - according international investigitators - is impossible, that in Kosovo war were killed nearly 15 thousand Albanians. International investigitators are INDEPENDENT, so any propaganda (both serbian or albanian) is outside them.

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

Public FYI @ (PJD, 24 September 2009 16:43)

Ivanovic is a rep of Beograd hence embassy for Serbia in Kosova. Way to twist words there buddy.

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Serbs shouldn't worry about these arrests as everything is transparent and they should rest assured that no Serb will be shot point-blank on the head while kneeling and handcuffed. This isn't Serbia.

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa... take you car, use google maps to get you there...
Canadian Consulate General - Chicago
Two Prudential Plaza
180 North Stetson Avenue, Suite 2400
Chicago, Illinois
USA
60601
Tel: 1 (312) 616-1860
Fax: 1 (312) 616-1878
walk in...

aRta

pre 14 godina

Мeanwhile, Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has asked EULEX for an explanation for yesterday’s arrests."

It sucks not having an embassy therey, doesn't it? You are reduced to "asking" on TV. This is just the beginning, anyone that committed an atrocities during the war will be caught and prosecuted, enclave or not. After that EULEX will move to post war crimes.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.

A

pre 14 godina

The gold digger that once worked for the Kosovo government says: ” We wouldn’t like that to be seen as interfering in the investigation”. That’ exactly what are you doing but you are not as extreme as Kostunica who would have made ultimatums for their release. The number speaks for themselves during 1997-2000 there were killed 12 000 Albanians and 500 Serbs. Now who has most blood on their hands?

Demi

pre 14 godina

Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?

SHall717

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 13:39)

Mike you never fail in your attempts to make everything look like some kind of big conspiracy to rid Kosovo of it's Serb population. The fact is that many Serb villagers aided and abbetted in committing war crimes in Kosovo just like in Bosnia. However, unlike in poor Bosnia, Kosovo citizens do not have to look into the monstous face of the people who murdered their families.
There is a constitution (which is world class by the way) in place and Serb war crime perpretrating villagers will be brought to justice one way or another. At least these Serbs won't get shot in the back by a bunch of cowardly Serb paramilitary wolves, eagles, scorpions etc. We must never forget the Serb massacred their Balkan neigbors and the scars are still fresh, so expect more arrests of this type in Kosove, the war criminals are still out there.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Well Mr.Ivanovic, were is the criminal serbs who murded 12 000 albanian´civilians during the war in Kosovo ?"


Show me where is this 12 thousands killed???? UN investigitators finds:
1999 - 2108 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
2000 - 608 bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK, UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers etc.)
in next years next few hundreds bodies (incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK e.g. bodies of 22 Serbs finds in Mališevo in 2005).

According to Herardo Patrandolfi, the head of the ICRC - over 2100 people of all ethnicities are still registered as missing since the end of the conflict in Kosovo(incl. Serbs and Albanians killed by UCK)

Don't forget, that in this number is peoples killed during NATO bombardment (so - killed by NATO soldiers)

So - show me where is Your 12 thousand peoples killed by Serbs????

Ps. After NATO/UCK gained control over Kosovo territory - there were over 1000 killed Serbs and Albanians (not by serb forces - they withdrawal).

Please - tell me where are UCK terrorists and murders arrested by KPS or EULEX?? I know only one - Gani Gashi sentenced by EULEX for killing ALBANIANS. No one UCK member was sentenced for killing Serbs.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

If these men were truly suspected of war crimes they would be in the Hague long time ago. This is a bogus charge to put fear into regular Kosovo Serbs. It's ultimately a message to all Serbs to leave the province. EU and America has been embarassed by Serbias recistance to Kosovo statehood and seem to believe that if they can rid Kosovo of its Serb population Serbia will finally give up its resistance.

roberto

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco

aRta

pre 14 godina

“The first thing the ministry did was to send a strongly-worded letter asking for an explanation,”

Wow! Watch every tremble now, way to go Ivanovic! This is how you earn your salary at the "Ministry of Kosovo."

Innocent till proven guilty

pre 14 godina

I am surprised the names of accused have been released. These people could be innocent and scarred for life just because they were accused of a crime in the first place.

The article is full of if's. These people need justice and in a place like Kosovo am not convinced will get it!

Rocky

pre 14 godina

Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.
(MikeC, 24 September 2009 20:04 --
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Well MikeC, in EUROPE we have only one Black Hole for the last 20 years, and that is SERBIA.
Please MikeC, Try not to blame others.

Joe

pre 14 godina

There is no doubts that this arrest as grounds of political motivation. I'm off the opoinion that EULEX should extende their Radius of action maybe starting from Skenderaj, Pristina, Vustrin etc. Just to show neutrality. We are talking of allegations and the course of justice should be followed, however “targeting” the Serbian communities, it is to show to the Kosovo Albanians that the protocol with Serbia is in place. Based on the Serbian Kosovo Methodja Minister statement it seems that the cross/exchange of information was not done. Why?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

arta,

Why should a state have an embassy in one of its own provinces?

Does the US have an embassy in Texas?
(Ron, 24 September 2009 17:44)

Why would USA amongst many other countries have two embassies in one country??? At least that is what you and others think that Kosova and Serbia are one country!!!

Ptoleme

pre 14 godina

Serbs shouldn't worry about these arrests as everything is transparent and they should rest assured that no Serb will be shot point-blank on the head while kneeling and handcuffed. This isn't Serbia.

KOSOVARi

pre 14 godina

Public FYI @ (PJD, 24 September 2009 16:43)

Ivanovic is a rep of Beograd hence embassy for Serbia in Kosova. Way to twist words there buddy.

PJD

pre 14 godina

PRN - What is the name of the NGO?

aRta - Oliver Ivanović is a Serb from Kosovo so surely you think him to be a citizen of Kosovo. If so then why would he need an embassy? I guess you thinking is that the Serbs of Kosovo are still citizens of Serbia and not Kosovo.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...
(bob, 24 September 2009 21:14)

Apparently you can't tell the difference between the embassy and consulate.
All foreign embassies are located in Washington, and ech country has one embassy only. Consulates is different sory. You can open as many as you own to provide services to your own people that live in the said country.
You have been to Candain Consulate in Chicago, my friend. Now we see who is making up garbage.

svojgazda

pre 14 godina

The NATO has the most blood on its hands, Demi. They indiscriminately bomb the hell out of Kosovo killing more Albanians than the Serb army running after KLA terrorists. But some reason, Pristina keeps kissing their behinds.

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa...
wtf?? really... so you're telling me that us doesn't have multiple embassies in canada and visa versa? i've been to the canadian embassy in chicago, and i'm sure one exists in washington...
i've been to the croatia embassy(consulate office) in toronto as well as one exists in ottawa...
odd that there'd be more than one croatian embassy in canada...
comeon man... if you're gonna make up garbage, please try a little harder to make it look prettier...

Peggy

pre 14 godina

radoslav -- i'm so sick of your racist trash. you need to practice the silent treatment, big-time. i can't force this site to stop publishing racist hate-slurs, but it should not continue without condemnation.

a shame on you, and yr pals!

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 25 September 2009 06:05)

OMG!! YOU"RE wick of someone racist trash. You should talk. Not only are you racist but you are also a hypocrite.
Some people have even said on this site that they cannot stomach reading any more racist and hypocritical comments from you any more.
Take a look at yourself before you judge others.
You, a judge of what is fair???
Nothing more to say.

ida

pre 14 godina

"It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires"

You lie - put up the links. They haven't found that many bodies and even adding the "missing" doesn't equate to that.

Futhermore, they have names of KLA fallen on a memorial wall and it numbers more like 3,000.

Also, the Roma have charged that their people - who had ethnic-Albanian names - who were killed by the KLA and Albanians show up on ethnic Albanian lists as being killed by Serbs.

It is known the Albanians are including Roma deaths as their hands as their own.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

SHall717

How convenient to remember the ill doings of what others did to your people but not what your people have done to others. You seem to forget the brutalization of Serbs by Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians during WW2. This is what I can't stand with our "neighbours". They are all "poor victims" of Serb agression. Well, you didn't think that Serbs would let you murder and torture us once again? Croats, alone, butchered 700.000 Serbs during WW2! You think we would allow for you to once again put us in concentration camps? You think Serbs would just agree to live in a strikt islamic republic? Never! There was no purcecution of Albanians in Kosovo during WW2 despite their siding with the nazis? If there would be, not a single Albanian would be left. And still we are the bad guys. Besides, you said it your self, all Serbs, even those that haven't even been born yet, are guilty. Perhaps Serbia will never again rule parts of Kosovo but I hope, by God, that we make it as difficult for you as humanly possible to ever become a real country. You should forever be the black hole of the Balkans.

Ace

pre 14 godina

# In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.
(Radoslav, 24 September 2009 18:59)

Yes, the number keeps growing. Kosovo is the only place on the planet where "genocide" occurred yet the population INCREASED. I think the liars are beginning to believe their own lies.

Milan

pre 14 godina

Dear Milan,

It is not 12,000 Albanians BUT more than 14,800 Albanians. Out of this less than 1,700 KLA soldires the rest guess what...women, children aged 2 days old, 3 weeks..etc...then, women of every age, old people and men...

Why dont you ask to give you their names too...but B92 server might crash than....

This is remind me of a guy who, in a debate with Jewish historian, asked how many jew were killed in WWII, the Jew replied 6m,...

Oh I dont believe you, give their names....!

Serbian NGO in Belgrade came with 12,700 Albanians dead several months ago, which again is inaccurate vs 6-700 Serbs.
(PRN, 24 September 2009 16:09)

I more belive international investigitators than You. If You remember - these investigitators were not pro-serbian, but rather they need to find more and more marks of "serbian brutality" etc. They need to find 100 thousands boodies or more, like western propaganda claim. But they don't find these bodies, and they were very confused with this fact. They find mayby 3 mayby 4 thousand bodies - of ALL NATIONALITIES, including UCK fighters, Yugoslav soldiers and peoples killed by NATO bombs and of course Serbs, Roma, Gorani and Albanians killed by UCK. And according to internationals - there is 2100 missing persons - includindg hundreds of Serbs and Roma.

So - according international investigitators - is impossible, that in Kosovo war were killed nearly 15 thousand Albanians. International investigitators are INDEPENDENT, so any propaganda (both serbian or albanian) is outside them.

Mike

pre 14 godina

I'm happy to see EULEX spearheading this. Otherwise this Serb would have been stuck in a KPS jail for far longer. And yes, I do agree with Ivanovic that K Albanians seem quick to arrest any Jovanovic, but seem conveniently perplexed at rooting out the criminals in their own ranks. I can only hope that with the addition of EULEX taking a more active role in overseeing security in the protectorate, a lot more Albanians on the run will be brought to justice.

Radoslav

pre 14 godina

In 10 years Albo's will be claiming that 50,000 Albo's died, in 20years it'll be 100,000. Fantasists. Give us the UN figure and cite the source instead of babbling on about 10000, 20000 or however many supposed thousands of Albo's are supposed to have died. Until then you have ZERO credibility.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Even though B92 tries to suppress my info I try it again: Joe...using my name is a different Joe."

For God's sake Joe, B92 neither has the time, nor the interest to "suppress" your information. You do realize the moderators wait a while in order to post a batch of files? You also realize you sound like a conspiracy nut everytime B92 posts your complaints about how B92 never posts your comments?

MikeC

pre 14 godina

These men were quickly judged by albanians as war criminals. Without knowing anything about them albanians at this forum judged them. To albs there are no innocent Serbs. Wonder what you have to say now when at least one of these poor men have been set free? The others should be released as well since this charge is a bunch of bull.

Jason

pre 14 godina

Just to avoid any confusion: The "Joe" who writes under my name is an other...apparently Serbian Joe.
(Joe, 24 September 2009 17:15)

Damn it all! I am sorry to hear that Joe because I was agreeing with you:)

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Now we catch five of them and you jump up calling it politically ? So everything that happends against serbs is politically ?
(Demi, 24 September 2009 12:32)

Yes it is with some ill feeling thrown into the mix.

How was one of them arrested because of mistaken identity. Was his name mis spelled and so they got the wrong man or did some Albanian point him out because of personal scores to settle and they realised they will have a hard time pinning anything on him?

Like I said before, if they can find evidence against Serbs for "crimes" committed 10 years ago how come they cannot find even one suspect for all the murders of Serbs now and all the burning or churches only five years ago?
The arsonists are all on film. Easily recognisable.

Mary Walsh

pre 14 godina

This ideed a shameful act, to arrest 5 Serbs on some pretext, it would appear that Eulex is just facilitating the local mafia to get the Serbs out of Novo Brdo and take their property.

Who is conducting a criminal investigation into war crimes committed against the civilian population in Kosovo since June 1999 when NATO arrived with the UCK hot on their heels.

Every town and nearly every village has been cleansed of Serbs and Roma since 1999 and they are arresting the Serbs, nothing has changed at all since EULEX and took over power. In actual fact things have got worse for the Serb population.

This is complete persecution.

bob

pre 14 godina

kosovo-usa... take you car, use google maps to get you there...
Canadian Consulate General - Chicago
Two Prudential Plaza
180 North Stetson Avenue, Suite 2400
Chicago, Illinois
USA
60601
Tel: 1 (312) 616-1860
Fax: 1 (312) 616-1878
walk in...