Tadić meets with Diaspora reps in Cleveland

"I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).
(Kosova-USA, 21 September 2009 11:06) "

Probably not - members probably have their own areas unlike the riff-raff.

I was invited to come to this meeting since I do live in Cleveland but I declined to go see this puppet of the west. Maybe I'll see a true leader when he is finally elected. Tadic is pathetic.

One thing that struck me is that Kosovo-usa always write that the internationals in Kosovo makes a lot of money for doing nothing. Kosovo-usa himself claims to be working for the international comunity in Kosovo and still he finds the time to visit this forum 24/7 and comment pretty much every news story that is published at any time of the day. Does your boss know what you are doing all day long? Since you are here all day long I don't know how you find time to do what the international hired you for: being the great janitor that you are.

Miria, if you are ignorant as to who Senator George Voinovich and Ohio Governor Ted Strickland are, that does not mean that no one heard of them. Please read up on current events before making your usual sarcastic and antagonistic comments. Look at the character of your Albanian leaders before belittling others.

I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).
(Kosova-USA, 21 September 2009 11:06)

Strongly doubt - Albanians are rather for tea. The way they prepare it does 100% matches the Russian, Iranian and Turkish way.

Serbs on the other hand drink coffee. This is the only conflict which never will be solved and you can count on Russian, Indian, British, Iranian and Chinese support with that, not just Turkish.

On the other hand, Serbs have such strong allies like USA, Brazil, Argentina, most of Africa and of course the entire ex-Austro-Hungary.

In any case I am with you 100% on that issue, I drink coffee probably no more than 5 times a year. Tea is at least 5 cups a day, sometimes more.

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

Who was lynched? If you are referring to a victim of bashing by soccer hooligans then say so. Don't turn it into a lynching which is very insulting to the African Americans who went through it all.

You see, US knows all about lynchings. You are talking to people who invented it.

Perhaps you would could mention Kosovo when talking about race hatred. Serbs are getting killed there.

miri,

The behavior of the ex. gov. of Il. is certainly no reflection on Pres. Tadic.

The ex. gov. is responsible for his behavior and no one else.

A collective guilt mentality has no place in a civilized and educated society.

Tadic should try to meet up with mr. Rahm Emanuel while staying in Washington.
mr. Emanuel not only the most influential member of Obama administration but also one of the presidents of "Serbian Council" at the Congress.
I am sure these two gentlemen would make a good match and Tadic would go home with a bunch of very smart advices from mr.Emanuel.

Obilic: Your comments are so typical of the diaspora that lives in the US. More radical than the radicals..huh. But the irony is that YOU live in the States living the high life. How easy is to judge those who are trying to make it in Serbia. I wonder how much help has come lately from the Diaspora. Since you call yourselves "patriots" why don't start walking the walk instead of talking the talk. Go out and do something and help instead of always being such a negative force.

So Obilic, when you are so nationalistic and find Tadic a puppet of the West why do you live yourself in Cleveland? We don't need such people like you in the USA! Better get back and join the 1389 mission or be just nationalistic and fight for all your idiot, old fashioned traditions.

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

Do Israeli politicians visiting US tell their host about continous israeli attrocities against palestiniens?

"We are pursuing peaceful policies and defending Kosovo through diplomatic and political avenues,” he said."

Here again Tadic like any other Serbian polititian trying to use Kosova/o to score propaganda points.

Anyone with a bit of brain knows that there is nothing to defend in Kosova other than accepting the new REALITY.

I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).

One thing that struck me is that Kosovo-usa always write that the internationals in Kosovo makes a lot of money for doing nothing. Kosovo-usa himself claims to be working for the international comunity in Kosovo and still he finds the time to visit this forum 24/7 and comment pretty much every news story that is published at any time of the day. Does your boss know what you are doing all day long? Since you are here all day long I don't know how you find time to do what the international hired you for: being the great janitor that you are.
(MikeC, 21 September 2009 15:04)

Ops MikeC,
Sorry that I forgat to include myself that I am getting paid for doing nothing.
At least with UNMIK we were very active, despite the fact that every national owrked for the interest of its own country rather then UN. But, EULEX is a holiday mission, even though for Americans the pay is not like it used to be with UNMIK. We are the poorest paid Internationals with EULEX. US State Department changed the policy for us if we are employed with eulex.

It is admirable to have a President who can take a whole week off to fly across the world "fihgting" for Kosovo...

After he visits Blagojevic, he should visit the jailed albanians in Jersey that tried to bomb the army barracks. He can do what the Americans did in gitmo and use the koran as a doormat.

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?

As a reminder to miri!

Perhaps he should meet with the K-albanians that were planing a terrorist attack on american soil. I guess that's how albanians thank the US for all the money they pumped into Kosovo?
http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/newsbriefs/2009/07/29/nb-07

At least Mr. Blagojevich didn't plan to kill innocent people unlike your countrymen.

What did Serbia win so far by pursuing Milosevic's ambitions for the past two decades? Don’t the Serbian people ever stop and think where they could have been if they hadn’t tried to get things by force. If they hadn’t taken Kosova’s autonomy away twenty years ago, YU could have still been intact and in EU, Serbia’s economy would have been way ahead of many of it’s (out of YU) neighbours. What did Serbia win in Croatia? They lost thousands of lives, economy, reputation…. Where would they have been now if they’d realised this earlier and opted for a peaceful divorce? Same thing goes for Bosnia and Kosova. Even if they claim this to be injustice, who’s fault is it that the Serbian politicians’ predictions have been so catastrophic. Haven’t this people learned anything from their mistakes? And, what kind of mentality is that where people go into wars knowing the outcome, just out of ‘inat’. Because it’s quite clear that most of the people here hold the same opinion when it comes to wars. For some reason for them it’s good to fight regardless of what happens because you are a Serb and Serbs don’t give up, because it’s against their pride to end things peacefully. Does the EU need this type of mentality?!

As a reminder to Tadic!
Don't forget to meet also with Mr. Blagojevich, the ex-governor of Illinois. He is the star of Serb diaspora in US. None of the others mentioned in here are heard of but Mr. Blagojevich made news all around the country. Mr. Tadic should be proud of this man.

"Alec Westlandsaid: "..It is admirable to have a President who can take a whole week off to fly across the world "fighting" for Kosovo..."

This comment shows the level of yourself and is the average of all respondents here. Please ask better your mother next time if it is good to comment before writing such a stupidity. It makes any discussion here to a zero level. (oh, yes, maybe you don't understand why? Your Presient Clinton went over the world for months to ask support for the attack on Serbia and your current President is running around week after wek for support in Afghanistan, Irak and now tries to resolves the Palestinian question)

Roberto you wrote this,

at any rate, they were torturing human beings in europa europa long, long before america was ever "discovered" by the euro-peans, or colonized, depending on your point of view. pls get your torturing history correct.


Who was doing the torture? Are you talking about the Spanish inquisition, burning witches and just general uncivilised treatment of prisoners?

You see Roberto, it was not the Serbs who did any of that. Now if you are so clever to make this statement, kindly provide us with some evidence of how Serbs fit into this. You are so busy bashing Serbs here at every opportunity that you actually forget that you cannot back your claims up and open yourself to exposure of just how racist YOU are. Either back up your claim or stop spewing obvious lies.

Now like I said, please provide of evidence of torture in Serbia during those the dark "europa" times as you say.

# Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

laura -- you have every right to say what you did, it is unfortunately spot-on for what has been going on in belgrade lately (not speaking of the "ancient animosities.") ignore the hateful comments intended to shut you (us) up, to marginalize dissidents, and non and anti-nationalists. we have as much right to speak out as they do, if not more so. never allow yourself to be bullied or intimidated...

in fact it IS exactly a lynching mentality that "forced" the blgd regime to cancel the pride parade. graffiti across the city, threats in media, certain comments from national institutions of which we are all too aware. it is in respect of the african- american struggle that we bring this up, not the reverse.

at any rate, they were torturing human beings in europa europa long, long before america was ever "discovered" by the euro-peans, or colonized, depending on your point of view. pls get your torturing history correct.

and here is my POV: serbia faces some very real and pressing social problems, which this past week were clearly highlighted but did not rise from whole cloth. they are symptomatic of a lack of civic democratic identity, which is also a problem throughout parts of the former Yu (i often discuss that) but PARticularly in and from serbia. so many examples, often coming from "crazed" football fans, who unfortunately act out the very worst instincts of the country.

tadic and co. have one overriding message: we will never give up (that's how they frame it) Kosovo/a. in other words, they will continue to torment the people of kosovo/a for as long and as hard as they possibly can, playing to all of the lowest nationalistic instincts of their people, and ignoring ALL of the other problems. kosovo--kosovo--kosovo! it is their one note, and they perseverate on it. but do they really care about the people that live there? i believe the answer is NO. they just refuse to accept this last bit of yu dis-integration; or, framed another way, they continue to fight for serbo-slavia.

i do not believe that in any way you can call this "democratic," ep.ly since we are speaking about the balkans, and such behavior only leads to more war, or war-like aggressiveness.

yes, like this past week.

if people here really cared about the people IN the balkans, they would find a way to transcend their stupid and petty nationalism, and work together to find a better future.

i believe that this is also the general meaning of a couple of posters here that actually live in serbia. we need to look to the future, and stop obsessing on the (rotten) past.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

Was Tadic informed about the Jewish rabbis in America who were arrested for organ trafficking/smuggling?
http://www.slate.com/id/2223559/
The arrests of rabbis who trafficked body parts uncover more complicated issues.

PSS thank you for this comment,

"Very true, lynchings were a disgraceful part of American history, but it was followed by enactment of some of the strongest discrimination and minority rights laws in the world. One where an African American (still a minority) can be elected President and serve on the highest court of the land."

Very noble indeed.
African American president is a step in the right direction providing the is the best person for the job.

Now how do you explain the Rodney Kings of America? Those laws are in place and they should protect everyone, but it seems that some cops don't know about them.

Brutality is a reality of every country. It is not right and needs to be addressed but saying what happened in Serbia is a lynching is likening it to what was happening to the African Americans in the south and very offensive to them.

In addition majority of Americans would be quick to label the action as racist, intolerable and deserving of punishment, can you say the same of Serbia?
(pss, 23 September 2009 14:38)

Yes, I can. First, please show me which incident of lynching it was that we are talking about here and then how the guilty person was not punished.

Don't give me this vague "lynching" happening in Serbia without pointing out the incident you are referring to and then saying that lynching happens in Serbia but if it happened in America it would be punished.

If you cannot produce a single incident of lynching, and I strongly mean lynching and not just some fight then I expect you to withdraw that statement.

I wonder what lynching mens to you.

"Who was lynched? If you are referring to a victim of bashing by soccer hooligans then say so. Don't turn it into a lynching which is very insulting to the African Americans who went through it all.

You see, US knows all about lynchings. You are talking to people who invented it.
Peggy,"
Very true, lynchings were a disgraceful part of American history, but it was followed by enactment of some of the strongest discrimination and minority rights laws in the world. One where an African American (still a minority) can be elected President and serve on the highest court of the land.
Once Serbia can say that the same luxury is afforded Albanians, Roma's, etc, then it is Ok to bring up the minority rights of others.

No one can change history, the goal is not to repeat it.

"My question to you "can you say the same about Serbia?" would be Do you think that the majority of Serbians would be disgusted if the 4 police officers were Serbian and Rodney King was Albanian?"

PSS, I belive I have already answered that in my post directly under your when I said yes I do.

Yes, I think a Rodney King beating would be disgusting anywhere against anyone and I think that majority of Serbs would condemn it.
I wonder too, if it was reversed in Kosovo where Albanian cops would be seen as doing nothing wrong if they beat up a Serb.

I think majority Albanians would be OK with that because they seem OK with murders of Serbs not even being investigated.

# After he visits Blagojevic, he should visit the jailed albanians in Jersey that tried to bomb the army barracks. He can do what the Americans did in gitmo and use the koran as a doormat.
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# As a reminder to miri!

Perhaps he should meet with the K-albanians that were planing a terrorist attack on american soil. I guess that's how albanians thank the US for all the money they pumped into Kosovo?
[link]

At least Mr. Blagojevich didn't plan to kill innocent people unlike your countrymen.
(MikeC, 22 September 2009 01:10)

Absolutely correct! Let Tadic meet with Blagojevich and Albanian Terrorists if you will. What's your point my friend, that Tadic is at the same level as the albanian terrorists?

Peggy,
As far as Obama goes, I think he was a very good choice for the position, however in a true democracy it is not necessarily the best choice chosen but the popular choice. I personally think the best person was the female candidate in the group.
The test is not whether incidents like Rodney King happen (if there were no crime we would not need a justice system) but whether it is an accepted practice. The officers were arrested and tried in California courts, following their acquitals they were retried by the federal courts with 2 convictions and 2 acquitals. In addition King was awarded monetary damages in the amount of 3.8 million and the incident prompted changes in police departments across the country, such as mounted cameras on police cars etc.
Thanks for the opportunity to show Americans commitment to equality.
In addition majority of Americans would be quick to label the action as racist, intolerable and deserving of punishment, can you say the same of Serbia?

Peggy, apparently you have my posts confused with some others. My response was to your comment that lynchings were invented by Americans. I do not know what "lynchings" you are referring to in Serbia, those references were posted by other commenters.
My question to you "can you say the same about Serbia?" would be Do you think that the majority of Serbians would be disgusted if the 4 police officers were Serbian and Rodney King was Albanian?
It is a rhetorical question not a factual one.

Peggy,
Your post is Highly inconsistent with the majority of postings you have had over the past 2 years I have been reading this site.
It is more a politically correct post than a factual one.

Peggy,
Your post is Highly inconsistent with the majority of postings you have had over the past 2 years I have been reading this site.
It is more a politically correct post than a factual one.
(pss, 25 September 2009 19:20)

Wow, I am honoured that you have been following me for so long.

Still, prove me wrong on what you just said. Show me examples of how Serbs would be OK with police being as brutal as in the case of Rodney King.
Just because you have been following my posts for so long doesn't exclude you from being asked for evidence to back up your theory.

As a reminder to Tadic!
Don't forget to meet also with Mr. Blagojevich, the ex-governor of Illinois. He is the star of Serb diaspora in US. None of the others mentioned in here are heard of but Mr. Blagojevich made news all around the country. Mr. Tadic should be proud of this man.

I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).

One thing that struck me is that Kosovo-usa always write that the internationals in Kosovo makes a lot of money for doing nothing. Kosovo-usa himself claims to be working for the international comunity in Kosovo and still he finds the time to visit this forum 24/7 and comment pretty much every news story that is published at any time of the day. Does your boss know what you are doing all day long? Since you are here all day long I don't know how you find time to do what the international hired you for: being the great janitor that you are.
(MikeC, 21 September 2009 15:04)

Ops MikeC,
Sorry that I forgat to include myself that I am getting paid for doing nothing.
At least with UNMIK we were very active, despite the fact that every national owrked for the interest of its own country rather then UN. But, EULEX is a holiday mission, even though for Americans the pay is not like it used to be with UNMIK. We are the poorest paid Internationals with EULEX. US State Department changed the policy for us if we are employed with eulex.

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?

"We are pursuing peaceful policies and defending Kosovo through diplomatic and political avenues,” he said."

Here again Tadic like any other Serbian polititian trying to use Kosova/o to score propaganda points.

Anyone with a bit of brain knows that there is nothing to defend in Kosova other than accepting the new REALITY.

Obilic: Your comments are so typical of the diaspora that lives in the US. More radical than the radicals..huh. But the irony is that YOU live in the States living the high life. How easy is to judge those who are trying to make it in Serbia. I wonder how much help has come lately from the Diaspora. Since you call yourselves "patriots" why don't start walking the walk instead of talking the talk. Go out and do something and help instead of always being such a negative force.

# Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

laura -- you have every right to say what you did, it is unfortunately spot-on for what has been going on in belgrade lately (not speaking of the "ancient animosities.") ignore the hateful comments intended to shut you (us) up, to marginalize dissidents, and non and anti-nationalists. we have as much right to speak out as they do, if not more so. never allow yourself to be bullied or intimidated...

in fact it IS exactly a lynching mentality that "forced" the blgd regime to cancel the pride parade. graffiti across the city, threats in media, certain comments from national institutions of which we are all too aware. it is in respect of the african- american struggle that we bring this up, not the reverse.

at any rate, they were torturing human beings in europa europa long, long before america was ever "discovered" by the euro-peans, or colonized, depending on your point of view. pls get your torturing history correct.

and here is my POV: serbia faces some very real and pressing social problems, which this past week were clearly highlighted but did not rise from whole cloth. they are symptomatic of a lack of civic democratic identity, which is also a problem throughout parts of the former Yu (i often discuss that) but PARticularly in and from serbia. so many examples, often coming from "crazed" football fans, who unfortunately act out the very worst instincts of the country.

tadic and co. have one overriding message: we will never give up (that's how they frame it) Kosovo/a. in other words, they will continue to torment the people of kosovo/a for as long and as hard as they possibly can, playing to all of the lowest nationalistic instincts of their people, and ignoring ALL of the other problems. kosovo--kosovo--kosovo! it is their one note, and they perseverate on it. but do they really care about the people that live there? i believe the answer is NO. they just refuse to accept this last bit of yu dis-integration; or, framed another way, they continue to fight for serbo-slavia.

i do not believe that in any way you can call this "democratic," ep.ly since we are speaking about the balkans, and such behavior only leads to more war, or war-like aggressiveness.

yes, like this past week.

if people here really cared about the people IN the balkans, they would find a way to transcend their stupid and petty nationalism, and work together to find a better future.

i believe that this is also the general meaning of a couple of posters here that actually live in serbia. we need to look to the future, and stop obsessing on the (rotten) past.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

I was invited to come to this meeting since I do live in Cleveland but I declined to go see this puppet of the west. Maybe I'll see a true leader when he is finally elected. Tadic is pathetic.

So Obilic, when you are so nationalistic and find Tadic a puppet of the West why do you live yourself in Cleveland? We don't need such people like you in the USA! Better get back and join the 1389 mission or be just nationalistic and fight for all your idiot, old fashioned traditions.

What did Serbia win so far by pursuing Milosevic's ambitions for the past two decades? Don’t the Serbian people ever stop and think where they could have been if they hadn’t tried to get things by force. If they hadn’t taken Kosova’s autonomy away twenty years ago, YU could have still been intact and in EU, Serbia’s economy would have been way ahead of many of it’s (out of YU) neighbours. What did Serbia win in Croatia? They lost thousands of lives, economy, reputation…. Where would they have been now if they’d realised this earlier and opted for a peaceful divorce? Same thing goes for Bosnia and Kosova. Even if they claim this to be injustice, who’s fault is it that the Serbian politicians’ predictions have been so catastrophic. Haven’t this people learned anything from their mistakes? And, what kind of mentality is that where people go into wars knowing the outcome, just out of ‘inat’. Because it’s quite clear that most of the people here hold the same opinion when it comes to wars. For some reason for them it’s good to fight regardless of what happens because you are a Serb and Serbs don’t give up, because it’s against their pride to end things peacefully. Does the EU need this type of mentality?!

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

Who was lynched? If you are referring to a victim of bashing by soccer hooligans then say so. Don't turn it into a lynching which is very insulting to the African Americans who went through it all.

You see, US knows all about lynchings. You are talking to people who invented it.

Perhaps you would could mention Kosovo when talking about race hatred. Serbs are getting killed there.

"I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).
(Kosova-USA, 21 September 2009 11:06) "

Probably not - members probably have their own areas unlike the riff-raff.

One thing that struck me is that Kosovo-usa always write that the internationals in Kosovo makes a lot of money for doing nothing. Kosovo-usa himself claims to be working for the international comunity in Kosovo and still he finds the time to visit this forum 24/7 and comment pretty much every news story that is published at any time of the day. Does your boss know what you are doing all day long? Since you are here all day long I don't know how you find time to do what the international hired you for: being the great janitor that you are.

I wonder if he is going to have a cup of coffee with President Sejdiu also, since they are both present in same building (UN HQ).
(Kosova-USA, 21 September 2009 11:06)

Strongly doubt - Albanians are rather for tea. The way they prepare it does 100% matches the Russian, Iranian and Turkish way.

Serbs on the other hand drink coffee. This is the only conflict which never will be solved and you can count on Russian, Indian, British, Iranian and Chinese support with that, not just Turkish.

On the other hand, Serbs have such strong allies like USA, Brazil, Argentina, most of Africa and of course the entire ex-Austro-Hungary.

In any case I am with you 100% on that issue, I drink coffee probably no more than 5 times a year. Tea is at least 5 cups a day, sometimes more.

"Who was lynched? If you are referring to a victim of bashing by soccer hooligans then say so. Don't turn it into a lynching which is very insulting to the African Americans who went through it all.

You see, US knows all about lynchings. You are talking to people who invented it.
Peggy,"
Very true, lynchings were a disgraceful part of American history, but it was followed by enactment of some of the strongest discrimination and minority rights laws in the world. One where an African American (still a minority) can be elected President and serve on the highest court of the land.
Once Serbia can say that the same luxury is afforded Albanians, Roma's, etc, then it is Ok to bring up the minority rights of others.

No one can change history, the goal is not to repeat it.

# After he visits Blagojevic, he should visit the jailed albanians in Jersey that tried to bomb the army barracks. He can do what the Americans did in gitmo and use the koran as a doormat.
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# As a reminder to miri!

Perhaps he should meet with the K-albanians that were planing a terrorist attack on american soil. I guess that's how albanians thank the US for all the money they pumped into Kosovo?
[link]

At least Mr. Blagojevich didn't plan to kill innocent people unlike your countrymen.
(MikeC, 22 September 2009 01:10)

Absolutely correct! Let Tadic meet with Blagojevich and Albanian Terrorists if you will. What's your point my friend, that Tadic is at the same level as the albanian terrorists?

Miria, if you are ignorant as to who Senator George Voinovich and Ohio Governor Ted Strickland are, that does not mean that no one heard of them. Please read up on current events before making your usual sarcastic and antagonistic comments. Look at the character of your Albanian leaders before belittling others.

It is admirable to have a President who can take a whole week off to fly across the world "fihgting" for Kosovo...

Tadic should try to meet up with mr. Rahm Emanuel while staying in Washington.
mr. Emanuel not only the most influential member of Obama administration but also one of the presidents of "Serbian Council" at the Congress.
I am sure these two gentlemen would make a good match and Tadic would go home with a bunch of very smart advices from mr.Emanuel.

Peggy,
As far as Obama goes, I think he was a very good choice for the position, however in a true democracy it is not necessarily the best choice chosen but the popular choice. I personally think the best person was the female candidate in the group.
The test is not whether incidents like Rodney King happen (if there were no crime we would not need a justice system) but whether it is an accepted practice. The officers were arrested and tried in California courts, following their acquitals they were retried by the federal courts with 2 convictions and 2 acquitals. In addition King was awarded monetary damages in the amount of 3.8 million and the incident prompted changes in police departments across the country, such as mounted cameras on police cars etc.
Thanks for the opportunity to show Americans commitment to equality.
In addition majority of Americans would be quick to label the action as racist, intolerable and deserving of punishment, can you say the same of Serbia?

As a reminder to miri!

Perhaps he should meet with the K-albanians that were planing a terrorist attack on american soil. I guess that's how albanians thank the US for all the money they pumped into Kosovo?
http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/newsbriefs/2009/07/29/nb-07

At least Mr. Blagojevich didn't plan to kill innocent people unlike your countrymen.

Did Mr. Tadic tell his hosts about foreigners being lynched in Belgrade these days?
(Laura Goldmann, 21 September 2009 21:34)

Do Israeli politicians visiting US tell their host about continous israeli attrocities against palestiniens?

Was Tadic informed about the Jewish rabbis in America who were arrested for organ trafficking/smuggling?
http://www.slate.com/id/2223559/
The arrests of rabbis who trafficked body parts uncover more complicated issues.

miri,

The behavior of the ex. gov. of Il. is certainly no reflection on Pres. Tadic.

The ex. gov. is responsible for his behavior and no one else.

A collective guilt mentality has no place in a civilized and educated society.

After he visits Blagojevic, he should visit the jailed albanians in Jersey that tried to bomb the army barracks. He can do what the Americans did in gitmo and use the koran as a doormat.

"Alec Westlandsaid: "..It is admirable to have a President who can take a whole week off to fly across the world "fighting" for Kosovo..."

This comment shows the level of yourself and is the average of all respondents here. Please ask better your mother next time if it is good to comment before writing such a stupidity. It makes any discussion here to a zero level. (oh, yes, maybe you don't understand why? Your Presient Clinton went over the world for months to ask support for the attack on Serbia and your current President is running around week after wek for support in Afghanistan, Irak and now tries to resolves the Palestinian question)

Roberto you wrote this,

at any rate, they were torturing human beings in europa europa long, long before america was ever "discovered" by the euro-peans, or colonized, depending on your point of view. pls get your torturing history correct.


Who was doing the torture? Are you talking about the Spanish inquisition, burning witches and just general uncivilised treatment of prisoners?

You see Roberto, it was not the Serbs who did any of that. Now if you are so clever to make this statement, kindly provide us with some evidence of how Serbs fit into this. You are so busy bashing Serbs here at every opportunity that you actually forget that you cannot back your claims up and open yourself to exposure of just how racist YOU are. Either back up your claim or stop spewing obvious lies.

Now like I said, please provide of evidence of torture in Serbia during those the dark "europa" times as you say.

PSS thank you for this comment,

"Very true, lynchings were a disgraceful part of American history, but it was followed by enactment of some of the strongest discrimination and minority rights laws in the world. One where an African American (still a minority) can be elected President and serve on the highest court of the land."

Very noble indeed.
African American president is a step in the right direction providing the is the best person for the job.

Now how do you explain the Rodney Kings of America? Those laws are in place and they should protect everyone, but it seems that some cops don't know about them.

Brutality is a reality of every country. It is not right and needs to be addressed but saying what happened in Serbia is a lynching is likening it to what was happening to the African Americans in the south and very offensive to them.

In addition majority of Americans would be quick to label the action as racist, intolerable and deserving of punishment, can you say the same of Serbia?
(pss, 23 September 2009 14:38)

Yes, I can. First, please show me which incident of lynching it was that we are talking about here and then how the guilty person was not punished.

Don't give me this vague "lynching" happening in Serbia without pointing out the incident you are referring to and then saying that lynching happens in Serbia but if it happened in America it would be punished.

If you cannot produce a single incident of lynching, and I strongly mean lynching and not just some fight then I expect you to withdraw that statement.

I wonder what lynching mens to you.

Peggy, apparently you have my posts confused with some others. My response was to your comment that lynchings were invented by Americans. I do not know what "lynchings" you are referring to in Serbia, those references were posted by other commenters.
My question to you "can you say the same about Serbia?" would be Do you think that the majority of Serbians would be disgusted if the 4 police officers were Serbian and Rodney King was Albanian?
It is a rhetorical question not a factual one.

"My question to you "can you say the same about Serbia?" would be Do you think that the majority of Serbians would be disgusted if the 4 police officers were Serbian and Rodney King was Albanian?"

PSS, I belive I have already answered that in my post directly under your when I said yes I do.

Yes, I think a Rodney King beating would be disgusting anywhere against anyone and I think that majority of Serbs would condemn it.
I wonder too, if it was reversed in Kosovo where Albanian cops would be seen as doing nothing wrong if they beat up a Serb.

I think majority Albanians would be OK with that because they seem OK with murders of Serbs not even being investigated.

Peggy,
Your post is Highly inconsistent with the majority of postings you have had over the past 2 years I have been reading this site.
It is more a politically correct post than a factual one.

Peggy,
Your post is Highly inconsistent with the majority of postings you have had over the past 2 years I have been reading this site.
It is more a politically correct post than a factual one.
(pss, 25 September 2009 19:20)

Wow, I am honoured that you have been following me for so long.

Still, prove me wrong on what you just said. Show me examples of how Serbs would be OK with police being as brutal as in the case of Rodney King.
Just because you have been following my posts for so long doesn't exclude you from being asked for evidence to back up your theory.