U.S. ambassador: Kosovo on road to EU, NATO

I very much doubt whether NATO will still exist after the humiliating defeat that it will suffer in Afganistan.

As to EU i would suggest to ambassador Dell to mind his own country's business which have nothing to do with EU enlargemeent.

His interference is a clear insult to EU countries that have refused to recognise Kosovo's illegal indpendence.Ambassador Dell doen't understand that it is those countries that have the
right of a veto within the EU and not the US.

Yes, when pigs fly or when hell freezes over. When will the Albanians in Kosovo see that their US masters are mocking them and that they are promisig things they cannot deliever (in other words, you are being dubts big time).

"...once it fulfills all conditions."
Can you name one condition, one single objective K-Albanians have met?

The statements of the good ambassador remind me of some sage advice I received a few years ago: if you're going to lie, at least try to lie convincingly.

As it stands now Kosovo has only one road and that is road to hell. Lets stop pretending, non Albanians live in ghetos, there is no economy but handouts, 70% unemployment, non existing Borders, rampant crime and prostitution and God knows what else....in other words non functioning state! Only God knows why Americans support this monster

"The construction of state institutions, then the integration of the community and its protection, economic development, rule of law, all should come before European integration,” Dell said.
This will never happen. Albanians in Kosovo hate everyone there, but themselves. And the province exists only because of crime. You cannot rebuild the minds and practices of an ethnic group (Albanians) that has behaved like this for centuries.

What's this guy on? Mr ambassador: you should learn how to say no to drugs!
Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?

I read that two times and there is not a single word anyone would object. Mr. Dell is probably an excellent diplomat.

But of course who does not see through the lines - probably did smoke to much of what "Hashish" Thaci is (in)famous for.

Has he asked the countries in UN about this?
How about EU countries? Has he received a nod from them that Kosovo will enter?

This guy is so out there, they sould seriously consider putting a muzzle on him.

"Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?"

MikeC, in all likelihood, this is a direct response to the statements of USIP in an attempt to diffuse what is undoubtedly going to result in increased tension between the "you promised us the world" camp in Pristina and the "c'mon, did you really believe everything we said?" camp in Washington.

yes right Kosovo road to EU is going to be an epic enterprise.
However it is a pathetic waste of words to claim Kosovo will once be a "full fledged member of NATO". Kosovo is a US/ NATO base and colony.A tiniest territory with the biggest US military base outside the US. How can you become more NATO than this?

The President Bush GW said Turkey should be a part of the EU. Where is Turkey now? Turkey has the largest Army in Europe but still cannot breach the halls of the EU. Now Kosovo who has 70 percent unemployment and basically no infrastructure how can they be choosen over Turkey. Mr Dell should stick to building computers.

The EU might not be out of reach!! If the Lisbon treaty is enacted, EU decisions are majority voted, which would imply that kosovo could join the EU but only after the EU changed it's own rules - i.e. that members have to be UN members also, unless they dictate to Serbia that a condition of entering the EU will be to recognise Kosovo.

As for NATO admission, I'd assume that is similar to EU admission - do you have to be a UN member to be part of NATO (does anyone know) ?

As the Chinese say, we live in interesting times. let's see how it pans out.

Kosovo to join Nato !!!!
Yes i would like to see that,What are they going to contribute ''Bureks ''

'Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?'

His 'countryman' was a private person, and as you have surely noted here, Americans frequently hold opinions that differ from those of the government and from each other. I suppose that calling the ambassador - who does represent his government - a drunk was merely a rhetorical flourish?

Ok there's still time, it's been a slow morning and i've not read the sunday papers yet, but that has got to be the funniest thing i've read so far this week!

EU does not spell US no matter which way you write it.

I know my own country will continue its little puppy dog barking for US policy but if he thinks Germany & France will put up with the US trying to dilute their own economic influence further (promoting of US dependants like Turkey et al), then he's having a laugh.

There's more chance of the Aussies joining the EU at the moment lol.

TITO,
Your assessment is partially correct. The only problem is that is a two way road and Kosovo is road out of the hell that Milosevic put it in.
As far as why Americans are supporting that, the question should be WHY NOT?

I find the Serbian comments funny, really: First Serbian police and military burn everything to the ground, steal bank accounts, pensions and then say the economy is bad.

Read this first too:
"Serbians have the lowest salaries and least purchasing power of Balkan residents covered by a four-state survey, conducted by the Croatian branch of Nielsen analysis group. The average monthly salary in Serbia is €348. In Bosnia and Herzegovina the average is €407 per month, followed by €730 in Croatia. Slovenians earn the most on average at €922 per month."

Now imagine how much lower it would be without Vojvodina! Can you really make fun of others? B92, publish this

"Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will."

MikeC

HIS COUNTRYMAN... I am happy to hear that you declare openly your Serbian origin.

I strongly encourage you to reveal your Serbian origins and not to hide behind Mike, Jason and just occasionally and unwillingly with “your countryman, our holy land” reveal that you are Serbs. You should not be ashamed to say that you are Serbs say it clearly.

first time, I didn´t read the comments before posting my own one.

only two remarks:

does the US-administration really feel the need to tell the k-albanians lies of this magnitude???

and furthermore... do the k-albanians really believe THAT???


if it were not that sad, how they are being duped, I would only post " LOL "...

General Serb banter on here I see. You guys seriously need to get over Kosovo's independence. Can't you see what the propaganda is achieving? As long as Kosovo remains on the agenda, corrupt leaders will continue to get away with daylight robbery, whilst your economy is in a state of shambles and your "proud" nation continues to be left behind.

'Kosovo to join Nato !!!!
Yes i would like to see that,What are they going to contribute ''Bureks '''

For a start, Kosovo can provide for its own defense, after KFOR withdraws and the rules are changed to allow the protection force to convert to an army (5 years). As for participation in NATO, it will probably provide a specific service, maybe in logistics, just as the Czechs for example provide field hospitals and NBC (nucl-biol-chem) teams. (In Iraq and Afghanistan, it's the Americans and Brits who provide the cannon fodder.)

You want to see just suffering and pain! You are judging things from the wring perspective. Not all K-Albanians are criminals, and murderers. I further believe that not all Serbs are killers as we can easy presume that since Serbia killed more than any other country in EU since WW II. Dont stigmatize a nation, stop your prejudices as propaganda is an old tool that everyone should get over it.

I strongly encourage you to reveal your Serbian origins and not to hide behind Mike, Jason and just occasionally and unwillingly with “your countryman, our holy land” reveal that you are Serbs. You should not be ashamed to say that you are Serbs say it clearly.
(ben, 19 September 2009 20:39)

Mike has never given us an impression that he was not of Serbian stock, unlike you who keep telling us how American you are.

Perhaps it is you who should come clean here.

Veki!
Where did you come up with that info about Kosovo having the biggest american base outside of of US borders?! South Korea has fifty thousand americans there. Japan has thirty thousand and Germany has 150.000.
I'll let you find out how many kosovo has.!!!
So please stop misinforming the public.

unlike you who keep telling us how American you are.

Perhaps it is you who should come clean here.
(Peggy, 20 September 2009 23:07)

I'll take this as a compliment for my English... lol...

(1) Kosovo cannot join EU as Kosovo is not a state!

(2) What America has to do with EU?

(3) Turkey probably will never enter EU.

Erion, take a look at this link. All will be clear to you then.
http://hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000959.html

However it is a pathetic waste of words to claim Kosovo will once be a "full fledged member of NATO". Kosovo is a US/ NATO base and colony.A tiniest territory with the biggest US military base outside the US. How can you become more NATO than this?
(veki, 20 September 2009 03:17)

That is so funny I just choked on my Coke Zero. "Camp" Bondsteel is most likely the smallest military area outside of the US besides maybe little Forward Operating Bases in Iraq or Afghanistan. Want to see the biggest, you probably could try England, Germany, Italy, Spain, Iceland, the Netherlands, Hungary, Korea, Japan, Guam, or any number of others. Trust me, I've been to a lot of them, including Bondsteel, and its a speck compared to even the smaller bases and facilities in these areas. Heck, it doesn't even have a runway.

I very much doubt whether NATO will still exist after the humiliating defeat that it will suffer in Afganistan.

As to EU i would suggest to ambassador Dell to mind his own country's business which have nothing to do with EU enlargemeent.

His interference is a clear insult to EU countries that have refused to recognise Kosovo's illegal indpendence.Ambassador Dell doen't understand that it is those countries that have the
right of a veto within the EU and not the US.

Yes, when pigs fly or when hell freezes over. When will the Albanians in Kosovo see that their US masters are mocking them and that they are promisig things they cannot deliever (in other words, you are being dubts big time).

As it stands now Kosovo has only one road and that is road to hell. Lets stop pretending, non Albanians live in ghetos, there is no economy but handouts, 70% unemployment, non existing Borders, rampant crime and prostitution and God knows what else....in other words non functioning state! Only God knows why Americans support this monster

"...once it fulfills all conditions."
Can you name one condition, one single objective K-Albanians have met?

"The construction of state institutions, then the integration of the community and its protection, economic development, rule of law, all should come before European integration,” Dell said.
This will never happen. Albanians in Kosovo hate everyone there, but themselves. And the province exists only because of crime. You cannot rebuild the minds and practices of an ethnic group (Albanians) that has behaved like this for centuries.

The statements of the good ambassador remind me of some sage advice I received a few years ago: if you're going to lie, at least try to lie convincingly.

What's this guy on? Mr ambassador: you should learn how to say no to drugs!
Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?

General Serb banter on here I see. You guys seriously need to get over Kosovo's independence. Can't you see what the propaganda is achieving? As long as Kosovo remains on the agenda, corrupt leaders will continue to get away with daylight robbery, whilst your economy is in a state of shambles and your "proud" nation continues to be left behind.

"Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will."

MikeC

HIS COUNTRYMAN... I am happy to hear that you declare openly your Serbian origin.

I strongly encourage you to reveal your Serbian origins and not to hide behind Mike, Jason and just occasionally and unwillingly with “your countryman, our holy land” reveal that you are Serbs. You should not be ashamed to say that you are Serbs say it clearly.

Kosovo to join Nato !!!!
Yes i would like to see that,What are they going to contribute ''Bureks ''

I find the Serbian comments funny, really: First Serbian police and military burn everything to the ground, steal bank accounts, pensions and then say the economy is bad.

Read this first too:
"Serbians have the lowest salaries and least purchasing power of Balkan residents covered by a four-state survey, conducted by the Croatian branch of Nielsen analysis group. The average monthly salary in Serbia is €348. In Bosnia and Herzegovina the average is €407 per month, followed by €730 in Croatia. Slovenians earn the most on average at €922 per month."

Now imagine how much lower it would be without Vojvodina! Can you really make fun of others? B92, publish this

Has he asked the countries in UN about this?
How about EU countries? Has he received a nod from them that Kosovo will enter?

This guy is so out there, they sould seriously consider putting a muzzle on him.

'Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?'

His 'countryman' was a private person, and as you have surely noted here, Americans frequently hold opinions that differ from those of the government and from each other. I suppose that calling the ambassador - who does represent his government - a drunk was merely a rhetorical flourish?

You want to see just suffering and pain! You are judging things from the wring perspective. Not all K-Albanians are criminals, and murderers. I further believe that not all Serbs are killers as we can easy presume that since Serbia killed more than any other country in EU since WW II. Dont stigmatize a nation, stop your prejudices as propaganda is an old tool that everyone should get over it.

The President Bush GW said Turkey should be a part of the EU. Where is Turkey now? Turkey has the largest Army in Europe but still cannot breach the halls of the EU. Now Kosovo who has 70 percent unemployment and basically no infrastructure how can they be choosen over Turkey. Mr Dell should stick to building computers.

TITO,
Your assessment is partially correct. The only problem is that is a two way road and Kosovo is road out of the hell that Milosevic put it in.
As far as why Americans are supporting that, the question should be WHY NOT?

yes right Kosovo road to EU is going to be an epic enterprise.
However it is a pathetic waste of words to claim Kosovo will once be a "full fledged member of NATO". Kosovo is a US/ NATO base and colony.A tiniest territory with the biggest US military base outside the US. How can you become more NATO than this?

'Kosovo to join Nato !!!!
Yes i would like to see that,What are they going to contribute ''Bureks '''

For a start, Kosovo can provide for its own defense, after KFOR withdraws and the rules are changed to allow the protection force to convert to an army (5 years). As for participation in NATO, it will probably provide a specific service, maybe in logistics, just as the Czechs for example provide field hospitals and NBC (nucl-biol-chem) teams. (In Iraq and Afghanistan, it's the Americans and Brits who provide the cannon fodder.)

first time, I didn´t read the comments before posting my own one.

only two remarks:

does the US-administration really feel the need to tell the k-albanians lies of this magnitude???

and furthermore... do the k-albanians really believe THAT???


if it were not that sad, how they are being duped, I would only post " LOL "...

Veki!
Where did you come up with that info about Kosovo having the biggest american base outside of of US borders?! South Korea has fifty thousand americans there. Japan has thirty thousand and Germany has 150.000.
I'll let you find out how many kosovo has.!!!
So please stop misinforming the public.

(1) Kosovo cannot join EU as Kosovo is not a state!

(2) What America has to do with EU?

(3) Turkey probably will never enter EU.

Ok there's still time, it's been a slow morning and i've not read the sunday papers yet, but that has got to be the funniest thing i've read so far this week!

EU does not spell US no matter which way you write it.

I know my own country will continue its little puppy dog barking for US policy but if he thinks Germany & France will put up with the US trying to dilute their own economic influence further (promoting of US dependants like Turkey et al), then he's having a laugh.

There's more chance of the Aussies joining the EU at the moment lol.

The EU might not be out of reach!! If the Lisbon treaty is enacted, EU decisions are majority voted, which would imply that kosovo could join the EU but only after the EU changed it's own rules - i.e. that members have to be UN members also, unless they dictate to Serbia that a condition of entering the EU will be to recognise Kosovo.

As for NATO admission, I'd assume that is similar to EU admission - do you have to be a UN member to be part of NATO (does anyone know) ?

As the Chinese say, we live in interesting times. let's see how it pans out.

"Yesterday his countryman said that Kosovo is not likely to join now this drunk say they will. Are they representing the same government?"

MikeC, in all likelihood, this is a direct response to the statements of USIP in an attempt to diffuse what is undoubtedly going to result in increased tension between the "you promised us the world" camp in Pristina and the "c'mon, did you really believe everything we said?" camp in Washington.

I strongly encourage you to reveal your Serbian origins and not to hide behind Mike, Jason and just occasionally and unwillingly with “your countryman, our holy land” reveal that you are Serbs. You should not be ashamed to say that you are Serbs say it clearly.
(ben, 19 September 2009 20:39)

Mike has never given us an impression that he was not of Serbian stock, unlike you who keep telling us how American you are.

Perhaps it is you who should come clean here.

Erion, take a look at this link. All will be clear to you then.
http://hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000959.html

I read that two times and there is not a single word anyone would object. Mr. Dell is probably an excellent diplomat.

But of course who does not see through the lines - probably did smoke to much of what "Hashish" Thaci is (in)famous for.

unlike you who keep telling us how American you are.

Perhaps it is you who should come clean here.
(Peggy, 20 September 2009 23:07)

I'll take this as a compliment for my English... lol...

However it is a pathetic waste of words to claim Kosovo will once be a "full fledged member of NATO". Kosovo is a US/ NATO base and colony.A tiniest territory with the biggest US military base outside the US. How can you become more NATO than this?
(veki, 20 September 2009 03:17)

That is so funny I just choked on my Coke Zero. "Camp" Bondsteel is most likely the smallest military area outside of the US besides maybe little Forward Operating Bases in Iraq or Afghanistan. Want to see the biggest, you probably could try England, Germany, Italy, Spain, Iceland, the Netherlands, Hungary, Korea, Japan, Guam, or any number of others. Trust me, I've been to a lot of them, including Bondsteel, and its a speck compared to even the smaller bases and facilities in these areas. Heck, it doesn't even have a runway.