Inzko: Break-up of Bosnia not option

-- International High Representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina Valentin Inzko said that a break-up of Bosnia-Herzegovina is not an option
B92

I am sick and tired of all those bureucrats,with no experience on the ground,dictating the enviroment that communities should spend their lives.

Balkans is nor western Europe.Bosnia is divided along ethnic and cultural lines and this is reality.
It also means that if Bosnia remains as it is it has no future.No foreign investor is going to invest in a country that is governed along ethnic and religious lines.

Instead of repeating the same failed policies the representative of the high commissioner should advance some new thinking which will work better for all those concerned.

How about allowing the country breaking up into three statelets and then have them absorbed by the EU either on their own or in confederation with their motherlands.

Rather than trying deparartely to keep them together allowing them to break apart might be the easiest and best solution.

Make no mistake in talking to the €Urocrat governor. Dodik shall be perfectly clear about an inevitable RS secession from the sharia state of "Bosnia". This construction of a "state" is a stillborn monster.

I am sick and tired of being in this EU created straight jacket called Bosnia. It does not function as a State, it is divided by Religeous demarkation, it has separate schools for Catholics and Muslims.It has no future, yet most of us cannot leave as no one in the civilised world will accept its Passport without a visa.Shame on you Inzko its time you went back to the tyrol. Who the hell are you to tell us what our future is.If its ok for the Albanians to steal SERBIAN land, and call themselves Kosovars(sic).Well then, its ok for us Serbs,Croatians to aspire to unite with our mother respective mother counties.We are christian people and do not want anything to do with our former ottoman overlords.

Who is Incko? Who voted for him? Surely it is the Serbs who decide where they live as a sovereign peple?Whatever happened to Yugoslavia? Why wasn't the international community involved there to preserve it? You can't keep an artificial country togther when the people don't want to be there.Let's cut out this international community speak.Let the Serbs decide in a referendum.Let the people decide.No violence just the will of the people.Doesn't Incko and his EU friends support this basic right?

Yeah right you American muppet!
We all know RS will be independent sooner or later. If they gave it to Kosovo they have no argument not to give it to Serbs in Bosnia.
They (International community) can puff and pant as much as they like but the will of the people will prevail.

"International High Representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina Valentin Inzko said that a break-up of Bosnia-Herzegovina is not an option"

Not to him it's not. But to all Serbs in Republica Srpska it's the only option!
Besides, who is he to tell people what to do in their own country?

I woudn't take too much notice of Tadic who is a slavish adherent of the West.He doesn't represent the wishes of real Serbs with his fragmented pro EU government made up of several groups including Dacic of the ex Milosevic SPC.When the West needs a statement he'll provide it.

Everyone's paying lip-service to BiH unity but in practice Tadic isn't helping by supporting Srpska. Russia is also one-sidedly investing in Srpska. Wait until the results of the next cenzus when Serbs make up more than 1/2 the population after all Croats emigrate.

Mr. Inzko,

For BiH it is the only long term option...

Joe the point I was making was that the West had no interest in preserving multi cultural Yugoslavia which ahd existed for several decades yet is interested in preserving multi cultural Bosnia a republic since 1945 in the SFRJ. It is them that always decide who lives where.
Morever you make the point the Croats and Slovenes felt dominated by the majority Serbs.In Bosnia the Serbs and Croats do not wish to be dominated by the Bosniaks.

Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 14:58)

So with this logic, Serbs north of the Ibar can continue to function separately from the pseudo-state of Kosovo? How long will it it last?

The Bosnian Serbs who don't want to live in Bosnia can immigrate to Serbia and live in Serbia. Bosnian land belongs to Bosnian citizens always has and always will. Traitors can not make demands on the state. The Bosnian Serbs ask for independence or move towards it indirectly leads to a break of the Dayton Peace Accords which leads to renewed fighting which leads to the political extinction of the entities and the formation of a new Bosnian State with a lot of Bosnian Serbs immigrating to Serbia and regretting having lost their homes in their former homeland. Warning to Serbs living in Serbia: there will be a lot of your fellow Serbs coming to stay with you I hope you treat them well and build houses for them the way you did for the Croatian Serbs from the Krajina Region and the Kosovo Serbs that moved into Serbia after 1998.

Factcheck,

Factchecker or lack thereof, please spare us the threats and the mighty words you type on your keyboard in solitude. BiH doesn't fuction, and is comprised of largely three constituent peoples, two of which don't like the direction headed and want to be reunited with the motherlands. Further factboy, BiH won't last...everyone knows it...its just a matter of time. In the end, it will be divided...now thats a fact.

It is amazing to me that countries who have not respected Serbia's boarders for years, are so quick to demand Serbs respect breakaway States and puppet States borders integrity.

"That sounds much better overwhelming population of the world agrees. We all no of a country of Bosnia i Herzegovina but Srpska totally fictitious."
Lenard

Not totaly fictitious! The entire world was behind the Dayton agreement. An agreement that gave birth to our beloved Republika Srpska. Croats are just jelous that they got stuck with muslims. You made a bad deal, not the Serbs. By the way if Croats are so interesting in keeping Bosnia as one entity how come Mostar is still devided? How come you name streets in Mostar after ustasha leaders?

Dear FatCheck,

Applying your logic equally, the bosnians (that would be the bosnian moslems, though I not you did not write 'bosniaks') should then convert back to orthadox christianity and call themselves Serbs. No one is asking for this so please keep your facts on wikipedia.

The reason this problem exists is because windy officials appointed from Brussels refuse, or should I write REFUSE to be in any way balanced with regards to the different parties in Bosnia.

Siladjic and his islamicists get a light slap on the wrist for their incendiary and violence inciting remarks, the RS faces sanctions, arbitrary dismissals of politicians and and blatant political manipulation of the RS political system.

Yet, the EU does not want to be responsible for keeping the Bosniak-Croat Federation on its finanancial drip.

The RS is not responsible for the Federations parlous economic state. Bosniak economic policy seems to depend on illusionary future war reparations from the RS and Serbia in their billions of EUROS. Just like Izetbegovic, they insist on promoting politicians to government who are above all loyal, totally disregarding their competence in their supposed expert fields.

Simply put, you cannot polish a tu*d.

EU representative have spent prestigious energy going after the RS rather than whipping the Federation in to economic and political shape. Their excuse for their failure is 'Dayton'. This is a total LIE.

Incompetence of the OHR since 1995 is clearly reflected in the high turnover of its head representative who have swung between only ever punishing the RS and doing nothing to the others to doing very little at all.

What is the lesson from this? Like the US , all the big heads in the great democratic nations of Europe have singularly failed in their self-professed goal of state building.

Despite this total failure, they decided to recognize Kosovo simply because they had run out of any other ideas, falling back on the intellectually absent "Doing 'something' is better than doing 'nothing'".

And these people run the EU.

God help us all.

This is just more proof of how hypocritical the EU, IC and the west really is. Bunch of Sicophants

All states are artificial creations! Borders are imaginary divisions that reflect the way the modern world has chosen to govern itself since the French revolution.
Yugoslavia was no more artificial than Great Britain, U.S., Canada, France or Italy for that matter.

If you live in Bosnia, you can't dictate to the Bosnians, it's their country, they dictate the terms, if Croats and Serbs are not happy with it, they should go back to their own artificial nation-states. This problem also applies to the Albanians of Kosovo and Macedonia.

To "Antifacist"
You really are the lowest of the low, i was at Jasenovac in aUGUST 2009, and it made my skin crawl,people of all ethnic origin were murdered at this site. I am grateful to the Croatians for keeping this place in a respectful way.You are obviously a right wing, numskull with low educational attainment. The Dead deserve respect and only God is thier witness.

The comments by 'antifascist' are offensive to any Serb, and it does not surprise me one bit that B92 allowed them.

I have a short message for you Mr. 'antifascist'. We will never forget the Bratunac massacres by Nasir Oric and his gang of war criminals, nor will Bosnian Serbs ever live under anyone else's thumb after so much suffering in the past. Bosnian Serbs have been subjected to many genocides and they will join Serbia officially in time, you will see. It is the only way they will be free and safe.
I'm not speaking as an outsider, as half my family is from there, and I know how Serbs from Bosnia feel about these things. If you want war, (and it sounds like you do), you will get it. Republika Srpska will be fully independent from you and your ilk, peacefully or not, it's up to you.

Anti fascist, Putting the religous convictions to one side and the outrage which you feel which seems to be tragically the ongoing bloody problems throughout the Balkans the simple fact is that you cannot get people to live together who don't want to.
Your letter merely confrms the incompatibility of Serb Bosniak and Croat.
There will never be any peace until the country is peacefully split up.
The Sudetenland point is not accurate.Although the Serbs have occupied previously Bosniak land in the East Serb lands in the West are occupied as well.
The point is that the Serbs have as much right to their land in Bosnia as the Bosniaks.The Serbs aren't invaders and were a majority in 1941 before another massacre began by the Ustashe forces.

There is no way 1.7 million serbs are going to have the bosnian muslims rule them when 2 million albanians declared independance! The serbs will break away sooner or later proving to the eu what dumbasses they are.

"Whatever happened to Yugoslavia?" nic Duboic

The answer is in your posting "You can't keep an artificial country together" espacially when one of the ethnicities, the Serbs dominated the others. The Croites and the Slovanes told me that they felt exploited by the Serbs.

"The Bosnian Serbs who don't want to live in Bosnia can immigrate to Serbia and live in Serbia. Bosnian land belongs to Bosnian citizens always has and always will. Traitors can not make demands on the state. The Bosnian Serbs ask for independence or move towards it indirectly leads to a break of the Dayton Peace Accords which leads to renewed fighting which leads to the political extinction of the entities and the formation of a new Bosnian State with a lot of Bosnian Serbs immigrating to Serbia and regretting having lost their homes in their former homeland. Warning to Serbs living in Serbia: there will be a lot of your fellow Serbs coming to stay with you I hope you treat them well and build houses for them the way you did for the Croatian Serbs from the Krajina Region and the Kosovo Serbs that moved into Serbia after 1998.
(FactCheck, 19 September 2009 20:06)"

Fact Check,

Are you working for the CIA or State Department? Maybe you should spend some time studying Balkan history before making a fool of yourself here by posting nonsence comments. Bosnians are mainly to Islam converted Serbs during the Ottoman occupation. If there is not such a thing as a Bosnian state there are no such people as Bosnian citizens. Who are the traitors you are referring to? It is the Bosniaks and Croats plus the EU and US who are deperately trying to break or go around the Dayton Peace Agreement. Are you threatening Serbs in Bosnia, Serbia, and Kosovo? You are a dangerous character and I can guarentee you that if Bosnia splits up it will not be the Serbs that will be responsible and that the Serbs in Bosnia will not be ethnically cleansed because in that case Serbia and maybe even Russia will come to their aid.

You always look at one side of the coin.
Just read your own coment and why you did not mention Presheva valley / don't they have the right join its mother country? Its fine with me, get your lovely Zubin Potok,Leposavic and part of north mitro, but I will get eastern Serbia(no need to put my finger on the map, since you know what I am talking about).
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 20:49)
You forgot to mention Skadar valley and Serbs who still live there inspite Albanian efforts to expell them! SKADAR VALLEY INDEPENDENT!

"He said that the international community must work to protect the integrity of Bosnia."

So - where You been, when "international community" refused to work to protect Serbia integrity????

Hypocrite!!!!

if Inzko believes that the break up of bosnia is "not an option," what is he doing to stop it? um, could it be... nothing? talking? with those actors on the ground? is he for real? is this some kind of cheap, part-time volunteer job?

i will not take anything that man says seriously, until they force criminal dodik out of the govt. until that moment, nothing inzko can says has any bearing on me, or the real world.

roberto
frisco

Quasi Srpska entity: This construction of a "state" is a stillborn monster.
(fas) That sounds much better overwhelming population of the world agrees. We all no of a country of Bosnia i Herzegovina but Srpska totally fictitious.

Who is Incko? Who voted for him? Surely it is the Serbs who decide where they live as a sovereign peple?Whatever happened to Yugoslavia? Why wasn't the international community involved there to preserve it? You can't keep an artificial country togther when the people don't want to be there.Let's cut out this international community speak.Let the Serbs decide in a referendum.Let the people decide.No violence just the will of the people.Doesn't Incko and his EU friends support this basic right?
(nik Dubaic, 19 September 2009 12:20)

Well said nic Dubaic,
Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.

FactCheck,

Exactly, no one wants a new war and new waves of refuges just to protect Dodik's corruption and criminal activities. He is about to be arrested and in order to avoid it he is trying to create own state!! No way, everyone is in an agreement, international community and Bosnia's neighbours, especially Bosnians.

Dodik is already history like Karadzic, Mladic etc. Bosnia will continue to exist undivided simply because it is unbreakable. Many, many had tried it before,...

Do all the Chetniks and serbofascist who write nothing but Muslim-baiting and hate messages against the Bosniaks think for a moment that the people on the ground, in real life might have other ideas? That some of them might actually consider the Bosniaks as human beings and not "Ottoman overlords"? The Ottoman Empire was dissolved some 96 years ago, for crying out loud! What gives you the idea that you may take "revenge" on today's Bosniaks for what the Turks may have done to some Serbs centuries ago? So you say that us balije should emigrate to Turkey or the Middle East? You always whine about Jasenovac, well, now and for the next 1000 years we will say "Remeber Srebrenica", and we will make sure that the truth about Srebrenica and about the Serb genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade is passed on from generation to generation and never forgotten. And you can deny it as much as you like and for as long as you like, it will NEVER be forgotten, and if some serbofascists think that they can kill and expel us and justify it with the Turks or with Jasenovac, then we can pay you back for Srebrenica. And with INTERESTS!
We know you are very afraid of Bosniaks, because those of you who wronged us know that the day will come when they will have to respond for their crimes.
If the way Milan Lukic and the "Skorpioni" behaved towards Bosniak is being a good Orthodox Christian then I am glad that I am not one, and I thank God that He opened my eyes and made me embrace the TRUE FAITH (you know which one I mean). And I will NEVER give it up, and neither will none of my family. Rather face DEATH than be baptized!
With your endless Muslim-bashing and Muslim-baiting you are only showing your moral and intellectual shortcomings, but you do nothing to improve what little prestige your nation has left.
You always rant about "not being ruled by Muslims." Firstly: are we Muslims lesser human beings or what? And secondly: we are not interested in "ruling” any non-Muslims nor in converting them to Islam. If the Ottomans had really tried to convert the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks by force, then then there would be almost no Christians left in the Balkans today and we all would not be in this mess. But you believe what you want. We don't care. After all it is written: "O you Unbelievers, I do not serve whom you serve, and you do not serve whom I serve, and you will never serve whom I serve, and I will never serve whom you serve, To you your faith, and to me, mine!"
But we will not just sit there and wait for the next Milan Lukic or Simo Drljaca to come for us. We have learned our lesson of 1992-1995 very well. We know exactly what we can expect from you: brute force, bad faith, treachery, persecution, destruction, genocide, exile, death. We are waiting for the next Milan Lukic or Stojan Zupljanin or Chemical Tolimir. We will not sit around until those pig-faced sons of swine with the manners of pigs come to drive us from our hometown, from our houses, to kill our family and friends, to rape our wives and daughters, to rob and/or destroy all we love and cherish, and to lead us like sheep to the slaughter. Oh no, if it comes to that, I for one will take at least six Serb sideboys with me to the netherworld. That is a promise. For everything that is evil and hateful about mankind I see embodied in the Serbofascists. I'm not saying all Serbs are bad, but judging by what they did and continue to do, and the statements I read here on this websirte and others every day, the number of sociopaths among them must be higher than in any other nation. And those who in 1992-95 just stood by and did nothing can't claim to be innocent either. After all, in Germany only about 20% of the people were Nazis. If all others had stood firm against them there would never have been WW II nor the Holocaust. And if the "RS" Is like the Sudetenland of Serbia - remember what happened to the Sudeten Germans! If you want to take our homeland we will not just stand by and let you have it. You will have to fight us, and if that is what you want to do, then so be it. But you will not bring us to our knees again, we will fight you to the last man, woman and child! We will fight you in our forests, on our mountains, in our valleys, in or towns and cities, in our streets, in our houses, and we will NEVER surrender!
And don't you dare call us "jihadists"!!!

The RS is basically independent. America and the EU know this as well. It will take time, but in the end the RS will have true independence. The Dayton Agreements were signed only about 15 to 20 years ago. Feels like an entirnity, but talking history its only a short time. The Albanians have been looking for Kosovo's independence for 25+ years and still do not have a true independent country. Views will change once the American's and EU's stubborn ways finally give in!

I don't think the RS would want to unite with Serbia. The Balkans would have 3 "Serbian countries" in the region. That in one way is a shame.

Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 14:58)

So with this logic, Serbs north of the Ibar can continue to function separately from the pseudo-state of Kosovo? How long will it it last?
(Jason, 19 September 2009 19:42)

You always look at one side of the coin.
Just read your own coment and why you did not mention Presheva valley / don't they have the right join its mother country? Its fine with me, get your lovely Zubin Potok,Leposavic and part of north mitro, but I will get eastern Serbia(no need to put my finger on the map, since you know what I am talking about).

FUTURA:
Kosova was known long before Yougoslavia itself,when us Kosovars were strugling with our lives and suffering from yugoslav regime you were enjoyng the benefits of Tito.
-anyway kosovars stole nothing,although we didnt get all what is ours and stolen from us since 1910.
if anyone is stealing lately is serbia and croatia stealing from B.H

If Bosnian Serbs do not want to live in BiH then they should pack up their belongings and move to Serbia. Those that do want to live in BiH and consider BiH their homeland should stay and work towards improving their country. Bosnians don't get to make decisions on what happens in Serbia, why should Serbs have a say about what happens in Bosnia? Bosnians Serbs who don't consider Bosnia and Herzegovina to be their homeland have renounced their Bosnian citizenships and do not have a say in the country's future.

Factboy,

Stick to milking Donkeys and feeding chickens...you have no idea about what BiH is?

I am from the state of Kosovo and I do agree with some of you guys Bosnia will not be able to stand alone rather sooner then later ,they should split up that way everyone can go their own bussines ,Serbs in Bosnia will never give in to B&H entity to be a fully fledged state so why keep it up where they can`t control ,at the same time that is valid for Serbia in regards to Kosovo they can claim as much as they want that they will never give up Kosovo but the reality in the ground is completely different from what the serbian gov. keep saying but the time will tell, so hope it will work for everyone cheers to evryone

It is an option and the best solution. Herzegovina will return to Croatia.

If the Muslims of Sandzak and the Catholics of Vojvodina can live freely in a democratic Serbia, Orthodox peoplecould live freely in a democratic Bosnia.

But Bosnia is not really democratic because it is still divided in three ghettoes. Bosnia should re-unify and scrap this “three-partition scheme” and put in its place a real central parliament, a real country-wide prime minister and just one person as president.

Bosnia can only live well if the idea of “Greater Serbia” dies.

And about “sharia Bosnia”, it makes me laugh loud. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims are pretty secular. The real traditionalist, anti-Western and anti-American ones in the Balkans are mainly the Greater-Serbia nationalists.

Many Bosnians are directly decended from Croats. They should return to their roots and unite with their brothers.

Antifascist I agree fully with what you have stated. There is no more appeasement of Serbian fascist ideology. In 92-95 they took Bosnians and Croats by surprise and we were outgunned, we will not make the same mistake twice. The Bosnian Serbs are Bosnian citizens and Bosnia has always been their homeland. If they renounce their homeland they are renouncing their citizenship and hence they become foreigners living on Bosnian land. The Bosnian Serbs need to be very careful with what they are doing and should carefully consider what happened in Hrvatska Krajina before making the same mistake twice. As the saying goes, you can not keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome. And the outcome will be a very bitter one indeed.

Bosnia's map still looks like a tiger skin. What to do with the people in Krajina region (Bihac, Cazin, Kladusa, Kljuc, Sanski Most), what to do with people in Kozarac, Janja, Srebrenica, etc.). No one wants to see yet another ethnic cleansing which could be even more catastrophic than the one in 92-95. So, no breakup of BIH for sure.

The Serbs aren't invaders and were a majority in 1941 before another massacre began by the Ustashe forces.
(NiCk, 21 September 2009 11:16)

Then why did the nationalist Chetniks join them? All are criminals, only Yugoslavia, in one form or another, will bring peace.

You can't keep an artificial country together" espacially when one of the ethnicities, the Serbs dominated the others. The Croites and the Slovanes told me that they felt exploited by the Serbs.
(Joe, 19 September 2009 16:02)

Yugoslavia was not artificial, it was, is and always will be a reality and the best and only option for peace and stability for the south slavic people. Yugoslavia is a reality because all the south slavs, despite religion, have the same culture, the same attitudes, the same history and pretty much the same language. You can only deny it for so long. You can try to tell your kids the Serbs or Croats or Muslims are different from you in every way until they see them and realize the only difference between them is their religion, which is a weak difference because most people by majority are not extremely religious.

Right now, all these separate former Yugoslav states look like if the powerful state of Germany broke down into Prussia, Bavaria, etc. Once the fascists lose, Yugoslavia will return,and it will start in Bosnia.

The Bosnian Serbs who don't want to live in Bosnia can immigrate to Serbia and live in Serbia. Bosnian land belongs to Bosnian citizens always has and always will. Traitors can not make demands on the state. The Bosnian Serbs ask for independence or move towards it indirectly leads to a break of the Dayton Peace Accords which leads to renewed fighting which leads to the political extinction of the entities and the formation of a new Bosnian State with a lot of Bosnian Serbs immigrating to Serbia and regretting having lost their homes in their former homeland. Warning to Serbs living in Serbia: there will be a lot of your fellow Serbs coming to stay with you I hope you treat them well and build houses for them the way you did for the Croatian Serbs from the Krajina Region and the Kosovo Serbs that moved into Serbia after 1998.

Make no mistake in talking to the €Urocrat governor. Dodik shall be perfectly clear about an inevitable RS secession from the sharia state of "Bosnia". This construction of a "state" is a stillborn monster.

"Whatever happened to Yugoslavia?" nic Duboic

The answer is in your posting "You can't keep an artificial country together" espacially when one of the ethnicities, the Serbs dominated the others. The Croites and the Slovanes told me that they felt exploited by the Serbs.

Quasi Srpska entity: This construction of a "state" is a stillborn monster.
(fas) That sounds much better overwhelming population of the world agrees. We all no of a country of Bosnia i Herzegovina but Srpska totally fictitious.

Do all the Chetniks and serbofascist who write nothing but Muslim-baiting and hate messages against the Bosniaks think for a moment that the people on the ground, in real life might have other ideas? That some of them might actually consider the Bosniaks as human beings and not "Ottoman overlords"? The Ottoman Empire was dissolved some 96 years ago, for crying out loud! What gives you the idea that you may take "revenge" on today's Bosniaks for what the Turks may have done to some Serbs centuries ago? So you say that us balije should emigrate to Turkey or the Middle East? You always whine about Jasenovac, well, now and for the next 1000 years we will say "Remeber Srebrenica", and we will make sure that the truth about Srebrenica and about the Serb genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade is passed on from generation to generation and never forgotten. And you can deny it as much as you like and for as long as you like, it will NEVER be forgotten, and if some serbofascists think that they can kill and expel us and justify it with the Turks or with Jasenovac, then we can pay you back for Srebrenica. And with INTERESTS!
We know you are very afraid of Bosniaks, because those of you who wronged us know that the day will come when they will have to respond for their crimes.
If the way Milan Lukic and the "Skorpioni" behaved towards Bosniak is being a good Orthodox Christian then I am glad that I am not one, and I thank God that He opened my eyes and made me embrace the TRUE FAITH (you know which one I mean). And I will NEVER give it up, and neither will none of my family. Rather face DEATH than be baptized!
With your endless Muslim-bashing and Muslim-baiting you are only showing your moral and intellectual shortcomings, but you do nothing to improve what little prestige your nation has left.
You always rant about "not being ruled by Muslims." Firstly: are we Muslims lesser human beings or what? And secondly: we are not interested in "ruling” any non-Muslims nor in converting them to Islam. If the Ottomans had really tried to convert the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks by force, then then there would be almost no Christians left in the Balkans today and we all would not be in this mess. But you believe what you want. We don't care. After all it is written: "O you Unbelievers, I do not serve whom you serve, and you do not serve whom I serve, and you will never serve whom I serve, and I will never serve whom you serve, To you your faith, and to me, mine!"
But we will not just sit there and wait for the next Milan Lukic or Simo Drljaca to come for us. We have learned our lesson of 1992-1995 very well. We know exactly what we can expect from you: brute force, bad faith, treachery, persecution, destruction, genocide, exile, death. We are waiting for the next Milan Lukic or Stojan Zupljanin or Chemical Tolimir. We will not sit around until those pig-faced sons of swine with the manners of pigs come to drive us from our hometown, from our houses, to kill our family and friends, to rape our wives and daughters, to rob and/or destroy all we love and cherish, and to lead us like sheep to the slaughter. Oh no, if it comes to that, I for one will take at least six Serb sideboys with me to the netherworld. That is a promise. For everything that is evil and hateful about mankind I see embodied in the Serbofascists. I'm not saying all Serbs are bad, but judging by what they did and continue to do, and the statements I read here on this websirte and others every day, the number of sociopaths among them must be higher than in any other nation. And those who in 1992-95 just stood by and did nothing can't claim to be innocent either. After all, in Germany only about 20% of the people were Nazis. If all others had stood firm against them there would never have been WW II nor the Holocaust. And if the "RS" Is like the Sudetenland of Serbia - remember what happened to the Sudeten Germans! If you want to take our homeland we will not just stand by and let you have it. You will have to fight us, and if that is what you want to do, then so be it. But you will not bring us to our knees again, we will fight you to the last man, woman and child! We will fight you in our forests, on our mountains, in our valleys, in or towns and cities, in our streets, in our houses, and we will NEVER surrender!
And don't you dare call us "jihadists"!!!

-- International High Representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina Valentin Inzko said that a break-up of Bosnia-Herzegovina is not an option
B92

I am sick and tired of all those bureucrats,with no experience on the ground,dictating the enviroment that communities should spend their lives.

Balkans is nor western Europe.Bosnia is divided along ethnic and cultural lines and this is reality.
It also means that if Bosnia remains as it is it has no future.No foreign investor is going to invest in a country that is governed along ethnic and religious lines.

Instead of repeating the same failed policies the representative of the high commissioner should advance some new thinking which will work better for all those concerned.

How about allowing the country breaking up into three statelets and then have them absorbed by the EU either on their own or in confederation with their motherlands.

Rather than trying deparartely to keep them together allowing them to break apart might be the easiest and best solution.

FUTURA:
Kosova was known long before Yougoslavia itself,when us Kosovars were strugling with our lives and suffering from yugoslav regime you were enjoyng the benefits of Tito.
-anyway kosovars stole nothing,although we didnt get all what is ours and stolen from us since 1910.
if anyone is stealing lately is serbia and croatia stealing from B.H

I am sick and tired of being in this EU created straight jacket called Bosnia. It does not function as a State, it is divided by Religeous demarkation, it has separate schools for Catholics and Muslims.It has no future, yet most of us cannot leave as no one in the civilised world will accept its Passport without a visa.Shame on you Inzko its time you went back to the tyrol. Who the hell are you to tell us what our future is.If its ok for the Albanians to steal SERBIAN land, and call themselves Kosovars(sic).Well then, its ok for us Serbs,Croatians to aspire to unite with our mother respective mother counties.We are christian people and do not want anything to do with our former ottoman overlords.

I woudn't take too much notice of Tadic who is a slavish adherent of the West.He doesn't represent the wishes of real Serbs with his fragmented pro EU government made up of several groups including Dacic of the ex Milosevic SPC.When the West needs a statement he'll provide it.

Who is Incko? Who voted for him? Surely it is the Serbs who decide where they live as a sovereign peple?Whatever happened to Yugoslavia? Why wasn't the international community involved there to preserve it? You can't keep an artificial country togther when the people don't want to be there.Let's cut out this international community speak.Let the Serbs decide in a referendum.Let the people decide.No violence just the will of the people.Doesn't Incko and his EU friends support this basic right?
(nik Dubaic, 19 September 2009 12:20)

Well said nic Dubaic,
Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.

Who is Incko? Who voted for him? Surely it is the Serbs who decide where they live as a sovereign peple?Whatever happened to Yugoslavia? Why wasn't the international community involved there to preserve it? You can't keep an artificial country togther when the people don't want to be there.Let's cut out this international community speak.Let the Serbs decide in a referendum.Let the people decide.No violence just the will of the people.Doesn't Incko and his EU friends support this basic right?

I am from the state of Kosovo and I do agree with some of you guys Bosnia will not be able to stand alone rather sooner then later ,they should split up that way everyone can go their own bussines ,Serbs in Bosnia will never give in to B&H entity to be a fully fledged state so why keep it up where they can`t control ,at the same time that is valid for Serbia in regards to Kosovo they can claim as much as they want that they will never give up Kosovo but the reality in the ground is completely different from what the serbian gov. keep saying but the time will tell, so hope it will work for everyone cheers to evryone

If Bosnian Serbs do not want to live in BiH then they should pack up their belongings and move to Serbia. Those that do want to live in BiH and consider BiH their homeland should stay and work towards improving their country. Bosnians don't get to make decisions on what happens in Serbia, why should Serbs have a say about what happens in Bosnia? Bosnians Serbs who don't consider Bosnia and Herzegovina to be their homeland have renounced their Bosnian citizenships and do not have a say in the country's future.

"International High Representative in Bosnia-Herzegovina Valentin Inzko said that a break-up of Bosnia-Herzegovina is not an option"

Not to him it's not. But to all Serbs in Republica Srpska it's the only option!
Besides, who is he to tell people what to do in their own country?

if Inzko believes that the break up of bosnia is "not an option," what is he doing to stop it? um, could it be... nothing? talking? with those actors on the ground? is he for real? is this some kind of cheap, part-time volunteer job?

i will not take anything that man says seriously, until they force criminal dodik out of the govt. until that moment, nothing inzko can says has any bearing on me, or the real world.

roberto
frisco

Yeah right you American muppet!
We all know RS will be independent sooner or later. If they gave it to Kosovo they have no argument not to give it to Serbs in Bosnia.
They (International community) can puff and pant as much as they like but the will of the people will prevail.

Antifascist I agree fully with what you have stated. There is no more appeasement of Serbian fascist ideology. In 92-95 they took Bosnians and Croats by surprise and we were outgunned, we will not make the same mistake twice. The Bosnian Serbs are Bosnian citizens and Bosnia has always been their homeland. If they renounce their homeland they are renouncing their citizenship and hence they become foreigners living on Bosnian land. The Bosnian Serbs need to be very careful with what they are doing and should carefully consider what happened in Hrvatska Krajina before making the same mistake twice. As the saying goes, you can not keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome. And the outcome will be a very bitter one indeed.

FactCheck,

Exactly, no one wants a new war and new waves of refuges just to protect Dodik's corruption and criminal activities. He is about to be arrested and in order to avoid it he is trying to create own state!! No way, everyone is in an agreement, international community and Bosnia's neighbours, especially Bosnians.

Dodik is already history like Karadzic, Mladic etc. Bosnia will continue to exist undivided simply because it is unbreakable. Many, many had tried it before,...

Mr. Inzko,

For BiH it is the only long term option...

Everyone's paying lip-service to BiH unity but in practice Tadic isn't helping by supporting Srpska. Russia is also one-sidedly investing in Srpska. Wait until the results of the next cenzus when Serbs make up more than 1/2 the population after all Croats emigrate.

Many Bosnians are directly decended from Croats. They should return to their roots and unite with their brothers.

Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 14:58)

So with this logic, Serbs north of the Ibar can continue to function separately from the pseudo-state of Kosovo? How long will it it last?
(Jason, 19 September 2009 19:42)

You always look at one side of the coin.
Just read your own coment and why you did not mention Presheva valley / don't they have the right join its mother country? Its fine with me, get your lovely Zubin Potok,Leposavic and part of north mitro, but I will get eastern Serbia(no need to put my finger on the map, since you know what I am talking about).

All states are artificial creations! Borders are imaginary divisions that reflect the way the modern world has chosen to govern itself since the French revolution.
Yugoslavia was no more artificial than Great Britain, U.S., Canada, France or Italy for that matter.

If you live in Bosnia, you can't dictate to the Bosnians, it's their country, they dictate the terms, if Croats and Serbs are not happy with it, they should go back to their own artificial nation-states. This problem also applies to the Albanians of Kosovo and Macedonia.

"That sounds much better overwhelming population of the world agrees. We all no of a country of Bosnia i Herzegovina but Srpska totally fictitious."
Lenard

Not totaly fictitious! The entire world was behind the Dayton agreement. An agreement that gave birth to our beloved Republika Srpska. Croats are just jelous that they got stuck with muslims. You made a bad deal, not the Serbs. By the way if Croats are so interesting in keeping Bosnia as one entity how come Mostar is still devided? How come you name streets in Mostar after ustasha leaders?

It is amazing to me that countries who have not respected Serbia's boarders for years, are so quick to demand Serbs respect breakaway States and puppet States borders integrity.

It is an option and the best solution. Herzegovina will return to Croatia.

"The Bosnian Serbs who don't want to live in Bosnia can immigrate to Serbia and live in Serbia. Bosnian land belongs to Bosnian citizens always has and always will. Traitors can not make demands on the state. The Bosnian Serbs ask for independence or move towards it indirectly leads to a break of the Dayton Peace Accords which leads to renewed fighting which leads to the political extinction of the entities and the formation of a new Bosnian State with a lot of Bosnian Serbs immigrating to Serbia and regretting having lost their homes in their former homeland. Warning to Serbs living in Serbia: there will be a lot of your fellow Serbs coming to stay with you I hope you treat them well and build houses for them the way you did for the Croatian Serbs from the Krajina Region and the Kosovo Serbs that moved into Serbia after 1998.
(FactCheck, 19 September 2009 20:06)"

Fact Check,

Are you working for the CIA or State Department? Maybe you should spend some time studying Balkan history before making a fool of yourself here by posting nonsence comments. Bosnians are mainly to Islam converted Serbs during the Ottoman occupation. If there is not such a thing as a Bosnian state there are no such people as Bosnian citizens. Who are the traitors you are referring to? It is the Bosniaks and Croats plus the EU and US who are deperately trying to break or go around the Dayton Peace Agreement. Are you threatening Serbs in Bosnia, Serbia, and Kosovo? You are a dangerous character and I can guarentee you that if Bosnia splits up it will not be the Serbs that will be responsible and that the Serbs in Bosnia will not be ethnically cleansed because in that case Serbia and maybe even Russia will come to their aid.

Artificial state, just like the old Yugo. how long will it last?
So you agree with me that Kosova has no business to be part of Serbia, since the entire old YUGO, was an artificial state.
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 14:58)

So with this logic, Serbs north of the Ibar can continue to function separately from the pseudo-state of Kosovo? How long will it it last?

The RS is basically independent. America and the EU know this as well. It will take time, but in the end the RS will have true independence. The Dayton Agreements were signed only about 15 to 20 years ago. Feels like an entirnity, but talking history its only a short time. The Albanians have been looking for Kosovo's independence for 25+ years and still do not have a true independent country. Views will change once the American's and EU's stubborn ways finally give in!

I don't think the RS would want to unite with Serbia. The Balkans would have 3 "Serbian countries" in the region. That in one way is a shame.

Factcheck,

Factchecker or lack thereof, please spare us the threats and the mighty words you type on your keyboard in solitude. BiH doesn't fuction, and is comprised of largely three constituent peoples, two of which don't like the direction headed and want to be reunited with the motherlands. Further factboy, BiH won't last...everyone knows it...its just a matter of time. In the end, it will be divided...now thats a fact.

This is just more proof of how hypocritical the EU, IC and the west really is. Bunch of Sicophants

Dear FatCheck,

Applying your logic equally, the bosnians (that would be the bosnian moslems, though I not you did not write 'bosniaks') should then convert back to orthadox christianity and call themselves Serbs. No one is asking for this so please keep your facts on wikipedia.

The reason this problem exists is because windy officials appointed from Brussels refuse, or should I write REFUSE to be in any way balanced with regards to the different parties in Bosnia.

Siladjic and his islamicists get a light slap on the wrist for their incendiary and violence inciting remarks, the RS faces sanctions, arbitrary dismissals of politicians and and blatant political manipulation of the RS political system.

Yet, the EU does not want to be responsible for keeping the Bosniak-Croat Federation on its finanancial drip.

The RS is not responsible for the Federations parlous economic state. Bosniak economic policy seems to depend on illusionary future war reparations from the RS and Serbia in their billions of EUROS. Just like Izetbegovic, they insist on promoting politicians to government who are above all loyal, totally disregarding their competence in their supposed expert fields.

Simply put, you cannot polish a tu*d.

EU representative have spent prestigious energy going after the RS rather than whipping the Federation in to economic and political shape. Their excuse for their failure is 'Dayton'. This is a total LIE.

Incompetence of the OHR since 1995 is clearly reflected in the high turnover of its head representative who have swung between only ever punishing the RS and doing nothing to the others to doing very little at all.

What is the lesson from this? Like the US , all the big heads in the great democratic nations of Europe have singularly failed in their self-professed goal of state building.

Despite this total failure, they decided to recognize Kosovo simply because they had run out of any other ideas, falling back on the intellectually absent "Doing 'something' is better than doing 'nothing'".

And these people run the EU.

God help us all.

The comments by 'antifascist' are offensive to any Serb, and it does not surprise me one bit that B92 allowed them.

I have a short message for you Mr. 'antifascist'. We will never forget the Bratunac massacres by Nasir Oric and his gang of war criminals, nor will Bosnian Serbs ever live under anyone else's thumb after so much suffering in the past. Bosnian Serbs have been subjected to many genocides and they will join Serbia officially in time, you will see. It is the only way they will be free and safe.
I'm not speaking as an outsider, as half my family is from there, and I know how Serbs from Bosnia feel about these things. If you want war, (and it sounds like you do), you will get it. Republika Srpska will be fully independent from you and your ilk, peacefully or not, it's up to you.

Bosnia's map still looks like a tiger skin. What to do with the people in Krajina region (Bihac, Cazin, Kladusa, Kljuc, Sanski Most), what to do with people in Kozarac, Janja, Srebrenica, etc.). No one wants to see yet another ethnic cleansing which could be even more catastrophic than the one in 92-95. So, no breakup of BIH for sure.

Joe the point I was making was that the West had no interest in preserving multi cultural Yugoslavia which ahd existed for several decades yet is interested in preserving multi cultural Bosnia a republic since 1945 in the SFRJ. It is them that always decide who lives where.
Morever you make the point the Croats and Slovenes felt dominated by the majority Serbs.In Bosnia the Serbs and Croats do not wish to be dominated by the Bosniaks.

Anti fascist, Putting the religous convictions to one side and the outrage which you feel which seems to be tragically the ongoing bloody problems throughout the Balkans the simple fact is that you cannot get people to live together who don't want to.
Your letter merely confrms the incompatibility of Serb Bosniak and Croat.
There will never be any peace until the country is peacefully split up.
The Sudetenland point is not accurate.Although the Serbs have occupied previously Bosniak land in the East Serb lands in the West are occupied as well.
The point is that the Serbs have as much right to their land in Bosnia as the Bosniaks.The Serbs aren't invaders and were a majority in 1941 before another massacre began by the Ustashe forces.

If the Muslims of Sandzak and the Catholics of Vojvodina can live freely in a democratic Serbia, Orthodox peoplecould live freely in a democratic Bosnia.

But Bosnia is not really democratic because it is still divided in three ghettoes. Bosnia should re-unify and scrap this “three-partition scheme” and put in its place a real central parliament, a real country-wide prime minister and just one person as president.

Bosnia can only live well if the idea of “Greater Serbia” dies.

And about “sharia Bosnia”, it makes me laugh loud. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims are pretty secular. The real traditionalist, anti-Western and anti-American ones in the Balkans are mainly the Greater-Serbia nationalists.

The Serbs aren't invaders and were a majority in 1941 before another massacre began by the Ustashe forces.
(NiCk, 21 September 2009 11:16)

Then why did the nationalist Chetniks join them? All are criminals, only Yugoslavia, in one form or another, will bring peace.

Factboy,

Stick to milking Donkeys and feeding chickens...you have no idea about what BiH is?

To "Antifacist"
You really are the lowest of the low, i was at Jasenovac in aUGUST 2009, and it made my skin crawl,people of all ethnic origin were murdered at this site. I am grateful to the Croatians for keeping this place in a respectful way.You are obviously a right wing, numskull with low educational attainment. The Dead deserve respect and only God is thier witness.

There is no way 1.7 million serbs are going to have the bosnian muslims rule them when 2 million albanians declared independance! The serbs will break away sooner or later proving to the eu what dumbasses they are.

You always look at one side of the coin.
Just read your own coment and why you did not mention Presheva valley / don't they have the right join its mother country? Its fine with me, get your lovely Zubin Potok,Leposavic and part of north mitro, but I will get eastern Serbia(no need to put my finger on the map, since you know what I am talking about).
(Kosova-USA, 19 September 2009 20:49)
You forgot to mention Skadar valley and Serbs who still live there inspite Albanian efforts to expell them! SKADAR VALLEY INDEPENDENT!

"He said that the international community must work to protect the integrity of Bosnia."

So - where You been, when "international community" refused to work to protect Serbia integrity????

Hypocrite!!!!

You can't keep an artificial country together" espacially when one of the ethnicities, the Serbs dominated the others. The Croites and the Slovanes told me that they felt exploited by the Serbs.
(Joe, 19 September 2009 16:02)

Yugoslavia was not artificial, it was, is and always will be a reality and the best and only option for peace and stability for the south slavic people. Yugoslavia is a reality because all the south slavs, despite religion, have the same culture, the same attitudes, the same history and pretty much the same language. You can only deny it for so long. You can try to tell your kids the Serbs or Croats or Muslims are different from you in every way until they see them and realize the only difference between them is their religion, which is a weak difference because most people by majority are not extremely religious.

Right now, all these separate former Yugoslav states look like if the powerful state of Germany broke down into Prussia, Bavaria, etc. Once the fascists lose, Yugoslavia will return,and it will start in Bosnia.