In the history of Balkans, Serbia has always been perceived as a direct threat to the statehood and sovregnity of many nations. Croatian, Bosniaks and Albanians have always seen Serbia as the central threat to their existence, and maybe rightfully so. (Macedonians as well, but they try to put it off for now). The historical precedents are there and very convincing.
Yugoslavia did not need the west to break up, it was an inorganic and un-natural union to start with, and it's fall was only a matter of time.
While Serbia has always had Russia and slavic nations to back it up, these 3 other nations have had none to support them, so naturally they looked west for support and the west was interested of course to offset Russian influence in the region and in Europe. I mean, you think being american colony is bad?..... try to become a Russian puppet or dependent and you will see what authority you will have left.
So this agreement is only in the best interest of Kosovo. At least US is hepling with money and logistics, Serbia never cared for the well being of Kosovo, just read the statistics of public investments in Kosovo even during the best times of Yugoslavia.
The times of "brotherhood and unity" have long gone, and shall never come back again. If K-Alb will dare to enter the Serbian state once again even as an autonomus province, they will die...
"...a multi-ethnic and prosperous state for all the ethnic communities that lived there."
Wow, what a perfect description of what Kosovo was like before the war...the Albanian population had their own language, own schools, freedom of religion...heck, the Albanian population of Kosovo were even allowed to pick on the Serbian minority without any difficulty...now that's democracy! America, you totally miss the point again!!
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
You are right except for the Kosovo and Albania part. Albania and Kosovo have zero strength economically or militarilly. Greece in NATO is the strongest representation in the Balkan.
Troika - are You still dreaming?? Do You know that soviet republics of Ukraine and Belorussia were foundators of United Nations?? This soviet republics were MEMBERS of United Nations. Were Soviet Ukraine and Belorussia independent?? No my friend... They signed international deals etc., they worked in United Nations General Assembly etc.
Two other orginal members (from 1945) were not independent at this time - British India (independence in 1945) and Philippine (independence in 1946). Today Palestine (only Autonomy) is UN member.
So - we know five UN members, who were (or is) not independent, but were UN members. Today "independent" Kosovo have any chance for UN membership - have smaller rights than nonindependent members of UN ;)
Great posting of yours like always. I enjoyed it greatly.
Please continue whenever you have time. This site needs your input. Your efforts to promote truth, human rights and peace are greatly appreciated.
Roberto - mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back grabbed Native American lands?? How many US Amerindians live in poverty in "reservations" like in third world??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will recognize Republic of Lakotah on the territories of N./S. Dakota??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back to Mexico territories of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California grabbed in 19th century??
You have long history of broken treaties and stealing land of other nations (Amerindians, Mexico, Spain, Cuba). Today - You need steal territory of Serbia.
Ps. My congratulation for Canada for kick off US aggresors in 1775-1776 and 1812 ;)
"the U.S.' most important ally" - laughable to think that Albanians are the U.S.' most important ally. First and foremost, Serbia has much more to offer the US in terms of economic benefit, second there are far more important allies past that of Albanians that the US currently has relations with, including the UK.
first -- about "tendentious" -- i agree that the nice british lady certainly lives up to that term, but i also agree with her that many of the rest of us would also qualify. i'm just trying to think who does not.
"province" -- it is so idiotic to use this kind of language, i have repeated my feelings so many times, even spoofed it all (cc to "news" dept...) so i'm happy that i don't have to be the only one. frankly, it is embarrassing and highly unprofessional.
Love and resentment at the USA (my country): anything i say will either be embraced or villified, depending on yr POV about our country and govt. i also have mixed feelings about US govt, us history, foreign policy, based on many factors and lots! of years of experience. the obama govt i support, i am grateful for (after 8 years of HEllo-Bushi), but my support is not unconditional. i certainly do not support the cont'd wars in iran or afghanistan, though the taliban utterly revolts and disgusts me (as did saddam insane.) there has to be a better way, it is just endless, even "centrist" sen. dianne feinstein shows waning enthusiasm. war -- war -- war. i spent much of my young life opposing the vietnam war -- i could never get paid enough for those volunteer hours. i will never regret any of it.
but in the case of the balkans i supported and continue to support US involvement absolutely. should have been so much sooner, early 90s, ignored the europeans and all the milosevic lies, stopped the wars early on, saved so many! lives. instad 100's of thousands (of all ethnicities, duh) had to die, and for what? and yes i am bitter, i am angry. so many war criminals remain throughout the balkans, and as svetlana broz confided to me, "you never know whose bloody hand you are shaking in belgrade." everyone can scream at me, call me racist, i don't give a sh-t, it is true; there is an absolute refusal to acknowledge the crimes and horrors of the past, just a handful of trials push by intl's and human rights people (kandic) -- otherwise nothing. shame!
and yes, there are criminals being protected on all sides, and it is sickening, and the families of the victims suffer miserably, just don't get me started!
People of Kosovo/a -- i am so pleased at yr independence, at yr progress -- well aware of the hell of the colonial period(s). things are not perfect but we are making great progress, and for the cynics here i could care less! they are bitter losers, to say the least. we must continue to look forward, to progress.
i can't make any promises for the eu, i'm not a part of it, am often critical of them... but as for the US we have supported freedom and independence for kosovo/a and will continue to do so. i don't expect anyone to get on their hands and knees and bless us -- just to work together, and take good help and advice when it comes yr way. give and take. but just remain critical, in a good way.
Kosovo and Metohija is no longer a Serbian problem. So we have to do our routine resistance job and wait for the shift of the balance in our favor. Don’t be misled with Grinspen’s and Obama’s fairy tales that the Crisis is behind. None of the problems that caused it has been solved. They just prolong the agony so we have a good chance for the US to withdraw it’s active role. Best if by that time Serbia have a more Serbian and a more decisive government.
Gracious beggars, I have to give Thaci and Sediju that. But money from the US doesn't come without strings. I noticed they backed off the anti-EULEX/Serbia agreement rhetoric.
PRN, you are funny. You have nothing to offer us. Your army can't stand up to insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan. We don't even need Bondsteel. You can't even give us power and water for the base. We have to provide that ourselves. We have Romania and Bulgaria, which have better infastructure and are more strategically located. Bondsteel will close eventually and you will be waving your plastic American flag as we leave. But keep to your dreams. I won't take those away from you.
There are few things for which money in the US will never dry up. One of them is money for national security because our national security is not negotiable (not like in many European countries). An other thing is money for good causes. Kosovo, which suffered so much in the nineties is one of them.
Repeating without elaborating “international law” in best case makes one tendentious.
For the simple fact:
- the international law recognizes the sovereignty of the state borders but
- also recognizes the right of self-determination.
Thus, when you recognize only one part of the international law and deliberately ignore the other- you are tendentious. Period.
If you add to that that the civilized world places the human rights and dignity above any legal concept and can deprive a mother from her own child due to abuses than recognizing the right of self-determination to a nation that has suffered in front of the eyes of the entire world to whom never an apology was asked and that lives in her own land for millenniums is the MOST NATURAL THING that one human being can do.
Being indifferent or even against that makes you something more than tendentious.
'... we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians.'
I'm sometimes surprised not to see this opinion expressed more often. The intervention was controversial in the U.S. because there was no direct threat to American interests, and of course the party out of power made this claim repeatedly. If there had been U.S. casualties, there was a chance that it would have been impossible to continue the air strikes. The pilots were frustrated - they were willing to fly lower in order to be able to distinguish their targets better, but the politicians overruled them. Reports of fleeing civilians being struck were sickening, and all anybody here wanted was for the whole thing to end, without Milosevic being in a position to go back and take revenge on the Albanians.
It was an imperfect campaign, and the outcome was imperfect, and the present situation is imperfect. And the politicians in Prishtina have the unenviable job of trying to make the best deal possible for their people under these conditions. Cut 'em a little slack, ok?
To B92 - How can a province sign an inter-state agreement??? shouldn't that be called a province-state agreement or maybe inter-province agreement??? You only show your stupidity and level of professionalism....
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living."
---
After seeing Serbs get all that free money, we said, why not us? How much has serbia borrowed or gotten for free just his year Daniel?
USA is looking for allies and posts. See Poland, England, Baltic States, Albanians, Czech and Turks...all are staunch USA allies and all in very strategic places.
P.S. USA isn't going anywhere, while Europe is graying, USA will add 100 million people to 400,000,000 inhabitants by 2050.China will have more, but they have a mess with "One child" and India will easily balance them out.
As an American, I am disgusted by my country's foreign policy. Creating and supporting a state that is run by criminals, is appalling. But wait, my country is also run by criminals - nevermind.
It's a long and difficult road for a state to establish itself, especially given the tragic circumstances of its economy being leveled and its people divided as a result of a now-neighbor. But I can see Kosovo making progress and quite frankly the only ones who have ill-will against Kosovo and don't want it to succeed are Serbs. And here we are, contradicting ourselves, claiming Kosovo is our holy land. And Serbia had 100 years to make amends. But that era of fighting is over, we hope, and Kosovo and Serbia will reason out their misunderstandings sooner or later as two European states.
"Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner"- That's a lie, in the famous words of Senator Joe Wilson. There has never been anything transparent in the Kosovo/US relationship. The dirty CIA worked covertly with KLA terrorists to create a crime-ridden narco-state - that was the birth of an Albanian Kosovo - the evil parent keeps giving an allowance to it's illegitimate child.
'Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.'
Exactly the response to the idea of helping the Germans and Japanese after WWII. And in this case, the people of Kosovo actually support the idea of democracy. Simply denying any chance of success says more about the sayer than about the objective possibilities.
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?" (kate)
-- That's basically what it is. Now, doesn't that make you feel special?
"kosovo is heart of albania"
(rolandi)
-- Hm, that's a new one. I've heard "Kosovo je srce Srbije". But "heart of Albania?" Are you sure you aren't copying from someone else's work again?
"This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty." (miles)
-- It's completely patron-client relation. Just like Russia telling Abkhazia it's a real life state too. But let's not forget this undoubtedly guarantees more money lining Hash's pockets. Pay off the pro-Washington clan leader so he can fight the anti-Washington clan leader.
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
-- You've got to be kidding me. Oh, but I scrolled down and saw it was written by PRN, so never mind.
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?" (Daniel)
-- Some place on the world map where policymakers can point to and know a bunch of "Muslims" like America. That and a rest stop called Bondsteel.
"A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula," (Amer)
-- We've got a looong ways to go before that's even remotely visible, and by the time that's potentially arguable, Kosovo will be institutionally Daytonized.
A nice feel good moment for the camera, and a great way for Hash, Hysterical, and Sej to look like they're still politically relevant. Funny how such a momentous event wasn't noted in American newspapers. But in this day, even Iraq has to struggle to make front page news.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.
ben - was it moi you were referring to as "the tendentious lady from above"?
I admit that I side squarely with the 'Kosovo is part of Serbia camp', not through nationalism but protection of international laws.
That does not mean that I don't recognise that many Kosovo Albanians suffered during 1999 and that terrible war crimes were committed, but far less than the US used for its spin.
There were also far more atrocities carried out against Serbs and others (including Albanians) by the KLA than reported, and not a mention of the 'ethnic cleansing' against them which took place.
Today Kosovo is being run by a few favoured people and internationals who seem to care little about the living standards or thoughts of their people, whatever ethnicity.
I agreed with posters yesterday who said that at least the protests were a sign of some healthy opposition.
Do you know what I think would be the ideal solution (but would never happen)? If Serbia and Kosovo could reach an agreement which cuts the 'internationals' squarely out of the picture. Money would flow from new investors (much more healthy than hand outs) and Kosovo would not be abandoned because of the fear of unrest in the heart of Europe.
That would be the only way to regain control and truly live independently, whatever the solution reached.
But I am very happy to agree with you about anything, even if you did call me "tendentious" - which by the way describes many people on here far better than me.
When are you expacting the other "province" Vojvodina to sign this agreement?
(troika melb, 15 September 2009 11:27)
Troika - mayby You in Australia don't know, that Vojvodina has SERB MAJORITY - so Your dreaming is only dreaming.
USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans
(PRN, 15 September 2009 11:50)
You are wrong - this is the strongest example of US vassalization on the Balkans ;)
'What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?'
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
(Amer, 15 September 2009 14:22)
Sorry, but I must ask - are You on drugs??
Perhaps the US should start by helping albanians install women's bathrooms (which do not exist) and hot water for the showers in Tirana's soccer stadium. In last week's FIFA qualifier the Danish players had no hot water to shower with after the match.
Priceless.
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
buying expensive German cars? (Daniel, 15 September 2009 12:35)
This is the major problem of neo-Keynesian neo-liberal doctrine.
You can expand your consumption but this does not mean that you will have same increase of your domestic production: the US money can go for German cars thus helping German economy not the US economy. This is the free and open market ;) you have pros and cons as always ;)
However, this is the first time that I agree with the tendentious lady from above: this is peanuts after the pure and brutal humiliation of Kosova’s authorities with EULEX-MUP agreement- the second in pipe-line after 6 point plan- any more to come???
I guess US thought we sold out to cheaply the interests of Kosova let’s give them some peanuts and make them happy.
Placing the authorities of a country (that you by your free will recognized as sovereign and independent) in the position of an irrelevant and useless bystander in their own country regarding their own national interest is cheap, inopportune and for me unfriendly act. We should say this openly to our friends as we should remind them that we are extremely grateful of what they have done for us in 1999 but we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians. This thing was considered as “racist war” in many University campuses in US during 1999. We are extremely thankful and will always be but we are not idiots.
You (above all EU) sold our legitimate sovereign rights to please Serbia and her friends in EU and now you give us some peanuts. This is the truth.
The timing, the lack of transparency (we don’t know the amount neither the time lump sum?? Continuous cooperation???) of this agreement are the proof of pleasing the humiliated side with peanuts. Like it or not this is the fact.
P.S. this will not be the first time that we will have to swallow the bitter bite.
"Serbian Defence Minister Dragan Sutanovac, whose subservience to NATO warrants a treason charge, said that "This is the largest military exercise of this type in the world, whose organisation and planning lasted for a year. This is a major promotion for our defence system."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15209
It's all about money. There is no cooperation when it's all one way. What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living.
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?"
The First World War started once major powers were split into clear camps and the spark was the oppression of Serbs in Bosnia.
Today we are witnessing the major powers split into NATO versus Russia, China and Brazil. Will the future spark be the oppression of Serbs in Kosovo, the assassination of a President in Kosovo?
This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty.
If NATO can break up Yugoslavia and Serbia along ethnic lines creating racially pure states under the illusion of multi ethnicity and independance then they will be able to use this as a weapon against China and Russia, who are fearful of the disintegration of their territories along ethnic lines. China and Russia know full well that in terms of their own security such a precedent cannot be set.
Throughout history the Western powers have persistantly provoked, invaded, conquered, divided and stole. It seems that nothing much has changed and in provoking Russia and China once again they will be the threat to world peace.
Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner.
B92
I very much doubt whether there will be any funds coming from the US to be invested in kosovo.
But even if we accept the validity of the`ambassador's statement i guess Thaci will finish the same number of infrastructure projects in kosovo as Karzai has finished in Afganistan.
As to transparency, i think it is Thaci's favourite word.
The First World War started once major powers were split into clear camps and the spark was the oppression of Serbs in Bosnia.
Today we are witnessing the major powers split into NATO versus Russia, China and Brazil. Will the future spark be the oppression of Serbs in Kosovo, the assassination of a President in Kosovo?
This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty.
If NATO can break up Yugoslavia and Serbia along ethnic lines creating racially pure states under the illusion of multi ethnicity and independance then they will be able to use this as a weapon against China and Russia, who are fearful of the disintegration of their territories along ethnic lines. China and Russia know full well that in terms of their own security such a precedent cannot be set.
Throughout history the Western powers have persistantly provoked, invaded, conquered, divided and stole. It seems that nothing much has changed and in provoking Russia and China once again they will be the threat to world peace.
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?"
It's all about money. There is no cooperation when it's all one way. What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living.
Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner.
B92
I very much doubt whether there will be any funds coming from the US to be invested in kosovo.
But even if we accept the validity of the`ambassador's statement i guess Thaci will finish the same number of infrastructure projects in kosovo as Karzai has finished in Afganistan.
As to transparency, i think it is Thaci's favourite word.
buying expensive German cars? (Daniel, 15 September 2009 12:35)
This is the major problem of neo-Keynesian neo-liberal doctrine.
You can expand your consumption but this does not mean that you will have same increase of your domestic production: the US money can go for German cars thus helping German economy not the US economy. This is the free and open market ;) you have pros and cons as always ;)
However, this is the first time that I agree with the tendentious lady from above: this is peanuts after the pure and brutal humiliation of Kosova’s authorities with EULEX-MUP agreement- the second in pipe-line after 6 point plan- any more to come???
I guess US thought we sold out to cheaply the interests of Kosova let’s give them some peanuts and make them happy.
Placing the authorities of a country (that you by your free will recognized as sovereign and independent) in the position of an irrelevant and useless bystander in their own country regarding their own national interest is cheap, inopportune and for me unfriendly act. We should say this openly to our friends as we should remind them that we are extremely grateful of what they have done for us in 1999 but we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians. This thing was considered as “racist war” in many University campuses in US during 1999. We are extremely thankful and will always be but we are not idiots.
You (above all EU) sold our legitimate sovereign rights to please Serbia and her friends in EU and now you give us some peanuts. This is the truth.
The timing, the lack of transparency (we don’t know the amount neither the time lump sum?? Continuous cooperation???) of this agreement are the proof of pleasing the humiliated side with peanuts. Like it or not this is the fact.
P.S. this will not be the first time that we will have to swallow the bitter bite.
Perhaps the US should start by helping albanians install women's bathrooms (which do not exist) and hot water for the showers in Tirana's soccer stadium. In last week's FIFA qualifier the Danish players had no hot water to shower with after the match.
Priceless.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.
ben - was it moi you were referring to as "the tendentious lady from above"?
I admit that I side squarely with the 'Kosovo is part of Serbia camp', not through nationalism but protection of international laws.
That does not mean that I don't recognise that many Kosovo Albanians suffered during 1999 and that terrible war crimes were committed, but far less than the US used for its spin.
There were also far more atrocities carried out against Serbs and others (including Albanians) by the KLA than reported, and not a mention of the 'ethnic cleansing' against them which took place.
Today Kosovo is being run by a few favoured people and internationals who seem to care little about the living standards or thoughts of their people, whatever ethnicity.
I agreed with posters yesterday who said that at least the protests were a sign of some healthy opposition.
Do you know what I think would be the ideal solution (but would never happen)? If Serbia and Kosovo could reach an agreement which cuts the 'internationals' squarely out of the picture. Money would flow from new investors (much more healthy than hand outs) and Kosovo would not be abandoned because of the fear of unrest in the heart of Europe.
That would be the only way to regain control and truly live independently, whatever the solution reached.
But I am very happy to agree with you about anything, even if you did call me "tendentious" - which by the way describes many people on here far better than me.
When are you expacting the other "province" Vojvodina to sign this agreement?
(troika melb, 15 September 2009 11:27)
Troika - mayby You in Australia don't know, that Vojvodina has SERB MAJORITY - so Your dreaming is only dreaming.
USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans
(PRN, 15 September 2009 11:50)
You are wrong - this is the strongest example of US vassalization on the Balkans ;)
'What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?'
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
(Amer, 15 September 2009 14:22)
Sorry, but I must ask - are You on drugs??
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
As an American, I am disgusted by my country's foreign policy. Creating and supporting a state that is run by criminals, is appalling. But wait, my country is also run by criminals - nevermind.
"Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner"- That's a lie, in the famous words of Senator Joe Wilson. There has never been anything transparent in the Kosovo/US relationship. The dirty CIA worked covertly with KLA terrorists to create a crime-ridden narco-state - that was the birth of an Albanian Kosovo - the evil parent keeps giving an allowance to it's illegitimate child.
Roberto - mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back grabbed Native American lands?? How many US Amerindians live in poverty in "reservations" like in third world??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will recognize Republic of Lakotah on the territories of N./S. Dakota??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back to Mexico territories of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California grabbed in 19th century??
You have long history of broken treaties and stealing land of other nations (Amerindians, Mexico, Spain, Cuba). Today - You need steal territory of Serbia.
Ps. My congratulation for Canada for kick off US aggresors in 1775-1776 and 1812 ;)
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?" (kate)
-- That's basically what it is. Now, doesn't that make you feel special?
"kosovo is heart of albania"
(rolandi)
-- Hm, that's a new one. I've heard "Kosovo je srce Srbije". But "heart of Albania?" Are you sure you aren't copying from someone else's work again?
"This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty." (miles)
-- It's completely patron-client relation. Just like Russia telling Abkhazia it's a real life state too. But let's not forget this undoubtedly guarantees more money lining Hash's pockets. Pay off the pro-Washington clan leader so he can fight the anti-Washington clan leader.
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
-- You've got to be kidding me. Oh, but I scrolled down and saw it was written by PRN, so never mind.
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?" (Daniel)
-- Some place on the world map where policymakers can point to and know a bunch of "Muslims" like America. That and a rest stop called Bondsteel.
"A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula," (Amer)
-- We've got a looong ways to go before that's even remotely visible, and by the time that's potentially arguable, Kosovo will be institutionally Daytonized.
A nice feel good moment for the camera, and a great way for Hash, Hysterical, and Sej to look like they're still politically relevant. Funny how such a momentous event wasn't noted in American newspapers. But in this day, even Iraq has to struggle to make front page news.
Gracious beggars, I have to give Thaci and Sediju that. But money from the US doesn't come without strings. I noticed they backed off the anti-EULEX/Serbia agreement rhetoric.
PRN, you are funny. You have nothing to offer us. Your army can't stand up to insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan. We don't even need Bondsteel. You can't even give us power and water for the base. We have to provide that ourselves. We have Romania and Bulgaria, which have better infastructure and are more strategically located. Bondsteel will close eventually and you will be waving your plastic American flag as we leave. But keep to your dreams. I won't take those away from you.
"the U.S.' most important ally" - laughable to think that Albanians are the U.S.' most important ally. First and foremost, Serbia has much more to offer the US in terms of economic benefit, second there are far more important allies past that of Albanians that the US currently has relations with, including the UK.
"...a multi-ethnic and prosperous state for all the ethnic communities that lived there."
Wow, what a perfect description of what Kosovo was like before the war...the Albanian population had their own language, own schools, freedom of religion...heck, the Albanian population of Kosovo were even allowed to pick on the Serbian minority without any difficulty...now that's democracy! America, you totally miss the point again!!
It's a long and difficult road for a state to establish itself, especially given the tragic circumstances of its economy being leveled and its people divided as a result of a now-neighbor. But I can see Kosovo making progress and quite frankly the only ones who have ill-will against Kosovo and don't want it to succeed are Serbs. And here we are, contradicting ourselves, claiming Kosovo is our holy land. And Serbia had 100 years to make amends. But that era of fighting is over, we hope, and Kosovo and Serbia will reason out their misunderstandings sooner or later as two European states.
To B92 - How can a province sign an inter-state agreement??? shouldn't that be called a province-state agreement or maybe inter-province agreement??? You only show your stupidity and level of professionalism....
Repeating without elaborating “international law” in best case makes one tendentious.
For the simple fact:
- the international law recognizes the sovereignty of the state borders but
- also recognizes the right of self-determination.
Thus, when you recognize only one part of the international law and deliberately ignore the other- you are tendentious. Period.
If you add to that that the civilized world places the human rights and dignity above any legal concept and can deprive a mother from her own child due to abuses than recognizing the right of self-determination to a nation that has suffered in front of the eyes of the entire world to whom never an apology was asked and that lives in her own land for millenniums is the MOST NATURAL THING that one human being can do.
Being indifferent or even against that makes you something more than tendentious.
Kosovo and Metohija is no longer a Serbian problem. So we have to do our routine resistance job and wait for the shift of the balance in our favor. Don’t be misled with Grinspen’s and Obama’s fairy tales that the Crisis is behind. None of the problems that caused it has been solved. They just prolong the agony so we have a good chance for the US to withdraw it’s active role. Best if by that time Serbia have a more Serbian and a more decisive government.
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
You are right except for the Kosovo and Albania part. Albania and Kosovo have zero strength economically or militarilly. Greece in NATO is the strongest representation in the Balkan.
There are few things for which money in the US will never dry up. One of them is money for national security because our national security is not negotiable (not like in many European countries). An other thing is money for good causes. Kosovo, which suffered so much in the nineties is one of them.
"Serbian Defence Minister Dragan Sutanovac, whose subservience to NATO warrants a treason charge, said that "This is the largest military exercise of this type in the world, whose organisation and planning lasted for a year. This is a major promotion for our defence system."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15209
'Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.'
Exactly the response to the idea of helping the Germans and Japanese after WWII. And in this case, the people of Kosovo actually support the idea of democracy. Simply denying any chance of success says more about the sayer than about the objective possibilities.
'... we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians.'
I'm sometimes surprised not to see this opinion expressed more often. The intervention was controversial in the U.S. because there was no direct threat to American interests, and of course the party out of power made this claim repeatedly. If there had been U.S. casualties, there was a chance that it would have been impossible to continue the air strikes. The pilots were frustrated - they were willing to fly lower in order to be able to distinguish their targets better, but the politicians overruled them. Reports of fleeing civilians being struck were sickening, and all anybody here wanted was for the whole thing to end, without Milosevic being in a position to go back and take revenge on the Albanians.
It was an imperfect campaign, and the outcome was imperfect, and the present situation is imperfect. And the politicians in Prishtina have the unenviable job of trying to make the best deal possible for their people under these conditions. Cut 'em a little slack, ok?
Great posting of yours like always. I enjoyed it greatly.
Please continue whenever you have time. This site needs your input. Your efforts to promote truth, human rights and peace are greatly appreciated.
Troika - are You still dreaming?? Do You know that soviet republics of Ukraine and Belorussia were foundators of United Nations?? This soviet republics were MEMBERS of United Nations. Were Soviet Ukraine and Belorussia independent?? No my friend... They signed international deals etc., they worked in United Nations General Assembly etc.
Two other orginal members (from 1945) were not independent at this time - British India (independence in 1945) and Philippine (independence in 1946). Today Palestine (only Autonomy) is UN member.
So - we know five UN members, who were (or is) not independent, but were UN members. Today "independent" Kosovo have any chance for UN membership - have smaller rights than nonindependent members of UN ;)
first -- about "tendentious" -- i agree that the nice british lady certainly lives up to that term, but i also agree with her that many of the rest of us would also qualify. i'm just trying to think who does not.
"province" -- it is so idiotic to use this kind of language, i have repeated my feelings so many times, even spoofed it all (cc to "news" dept...) so i'm happy that i don't have to be the only one. frankly, it is embarrassing and highly unprofessional.
Love and resentment at the USA (my country): anything i say will either be embraced or villified, depending on yr POV about our country and govt. i also have mixed feelings about US govt, us history, foreign policy, based on many factors and lots! of years of experience. the obama govt i support, i am grateful for (after 8 years of HEllo-Bushi), but my support is not unconditional. i certainly do not support the cont'd wars in iran or afghanistan, though the taliban utterly revolts and disgusts me (as did saddam insane.) there has to be a better way, it is just endless, even "centrist" sen. dianne feinstein shows waning enthusiasm. war -- war -- war. i spent much of my young life opposing the vietnam war -- i could never get paid enough for those volunteer hours. i will never regret any of it.
but in the case of the balkans i supported and continue to support US involvement absolutely. should have been so much sooner, early 90s, ignored the europeans and all the milosevic lies, stopped the wars early on, saved so many! lives. instad 100's of thousands (of all ethnicities, duh) had to die, and for what? and yes i am bitter, i am angry. so many war criminals remain throughout the balkans, and as svetlana broz confided to me, "you never know whose bloody hand you are shaking in belgrade." everyone can scream at me, call me racist, i don't give a sh-t, it is true; there is an absolute refusal to acknowledge the crimes and horrors of the past, just a handful of trials push by intl's and human rights people (kandic) -- otherwise nothing. shame!
and yes, there are criminals being protected on all sides, and it is sickening, and the families of the victims suffer miserably, just don't get me started!
People of Kosovo/a -- i am so pleased at yr independence, at yr progress -- well aware of the hell of the colonial period(s). things are not perfect but we are making great progress, and for the cynics here i could care less! they are bitter losers, to say the least. we must continue to look forward, to progress.
i can't make any promises for the eu, i'm not a part of it, am often critical of them... but as for the US we have supported freedom and independence for kosovo/a and will continue to do so. i don't expect anyone to get on their hands and knees and bless us -- just to work together, and take good help and advice when it comes yr way. give and take. but just remain critical, in a good way.
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living."
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After seeing Serbs get all that free money, we said, why not us? How much has serbia borrowed or gotten for free just his year Daniel?
USA is looking for allies and posts. See Poland, England, Baltic States, Albanians, Czech and Turks...all are staunch USA allies and all in very strategic places.
P.S. USA isn't going anywhere, while Europe is graying, USA will add 100 million people to 400,000,000 inhabitants by 2050.China will have more, but they have a mess with "One child" and India will easily balance them out.
In the history of Balkans, Serbia has always been perceived as a direct threat to the statehood and sovregnity of many nations. Croatian, Bosniaks and Albanians have always seen Serbia as the central threat to their existence, and maybe rightfully so. (Macedonians as well, but they try to put it off for now). The historical precedents are there and very convincing.
Yugoslavia did not need the west to break up, it was an inorganic and un-natural union to start with, and it's fall was only a matter of time.
While Serbia has always had Russia and slavic nations to back it up, these 3 other nations have had none to support them, so naturally they looked west for support and the west was interested of course to offset Russian influence in the region and in Europe. I mean, you think being american colony is bad?..... try to become a Russian puppet or dependent and you will see what authority you will have left.
So this agreement is only in the best interest of Kosovo. At least US is hepling with money and logistics, Serbia never cared for the well being of Kosovo, just read the statistics of public investments in Kosovo even during the best times of Yugoslavia.
The times of "brotherhood and unity" have long gone, and shall never come back again. If K-Alb will dare to enter the Serbian state once again even as an autonomus province, they will die...
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?"
It's all about money. There is no cooperation when it's all one way. What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living.
Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner.
B92
I very much doubt whether there will be any funds coming from the US to be invested in kosovo.
But even if we accept the validity of the`ambassador's statement i guess Thaci will finish the same number of infrastructure projects in kosovo as Karzai has finished in Afganistan.
As to transparency, i think it is Thaci's favourite word.
The First World War started once major powers were split into clear camps and the spark was the oppression of Serbs in Bosnia.
Today we are witnessing the major powers split into NATO versus Russia, China and Brazil. Will the future spark be the oppression of Serbs in Kosovo, the assassination of a President in Kosovo?
This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty.
If NATO can break up Yugoslavia and Serbia along ethnic lines creating racially pure states under the illusion of multi ethnicity and independance then they will be able to use this as a weapon against China and Russia, who are fearful of the disintegration of their territories along ethnic lines. China and Russia know full well that in terms of their own security such a precedent cannot be set.
Throughout history the Western powers have persistantly provoked, invaded, conquered, divided and stole. It seems that nothing much has changed and in provoking Russia and China once again they will be the threat to world peace.
There are few things for which money in the US will never dry up. One of them is money for national security because our national security is not negotiable (not like in many European countries). An other thing is money for good causes. Kosovo, which suffered so much in the nineties is one of them.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.
Perhaps the US should start by helping albanians install women's bathrooms (which do not exist) and hot water for the showers in Tirana's soccer stadium. In last week's FIFA qualifier the Danish players had no hot water to shower with after the match.
Priceless.
buying expensive German cars? (Daniel, 15 September 2009 12:35)
This is the major problem of neo-Keynesian neo-liberal doctrine.
You can expand your consumption but this does not mean that you will have same increase of your domestic production: the US money can go for German cars thus helping German economy not the US economy. This is the free and open market ;) you have pros and cons as always ;)
However, this is the first time that I agree with the tendentious lady from above: this is peanuts after the pure and brutal humiliation of Kosova’s authorities with EULEX-MUP agreement- the second in pipe-line after 6 point plan- any more to come???
I guess US thought we sold out to cheaply the interests of Kosova let’s give them some peanuts and make them happy.
Placing the authorities of a country (that you by your free will recognized as sovereign and independent) in the position of an irrelevant and useless bystander in their own country regarding their own national interest is cheap, inopportune and for me unfriendly act. We should say this openly to our friends as we should remind them that we are extremely grateful of what they have done for us in 1999 but we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians. This thing was considered as “racist war” in many University campuses in US during 1999. We are extremely thankful and will always be but we are not idiots.
You (above all EU) sold our legitimate sovereign rights to please Serbia and her friends in EU and now you give us some peanuts. This is the truth.
The timing, the lack of transparency (we don’t know the amount neither the time lump sum?? Continuous cooperation???) of this agreement are the proof of pleasing the humiliated side with peanuts. Like it or not this is the fact.
P.S. this will not be the first time that we will have to swallow the bitter bite.
ben - was it moi you were referring to as "the tendentious lady from above"?
I admit that I side squarely with the 'Kosovo is part of Serbia camp', not through nationalism but protection of international laws.
That does not mean that I don't recognise that many Kosovo Albanians suffered during 1999 and that terrible war crimes were committed, but far less than the US used for its spin.
There were also far more atrocities carried out against Serbs and others (including Albanians) by the KLA than reported, and not a mention of the 'ethnic cleansing' against them which took place.
Today Kosovo is being run by a few favoured people and internationals who seem to care little about the living standards or thoughts of their people, whatever ethnicity.
I agreed with posters yesterday who said that at least the protests were a sign of some healthy opposition.
Do you know what I think would be the ideal solution (but would never happen)? If Serbia and Kosovo could reach an agreement which cuts the 'internationals' squarely out of the picture. Money would flow from new investors (much more healthy than hand outs) and Kosovo would not be abandoned because of the fear of unrest in the heart of Europe.
That would be the only way to regain control and truly live independently, whatever the solution reached.
But I am very happy to agree with you about anything, even if you did call me "tendentious" - which by the way describes many people on here far better than me.
Repeating without elaborating “international law” in best case makes one tendentious.
For the simple fact:
- the international law recognizes the sovereignty of the state borders but
- also recognizes the right of self-determination.
Thus, when you recognize only one part of the international law and deliberately ignore the other- you are tendentious. Period.
If you add to that that the civilized world places the human rights and dignity above any legal concept and can deprive a mother from her own child due to abuses than recognizing the right of self-determination to a nation that has suffered in front of the eyes of the entire world to whom never an apology was asked and that lives in her own land for millenniums is the MOST NATURAL THING that one human being can do.
Being indifferent or even against that makes you something more than tendentious.
first -- about "tendentious" -- i agree that the nice british lady certainly lives up to that term, but i also agree with her that many of the rest of us would also qualify. i'm just trying to think who does not.
"province" -- it is so idiotic to use this kind of language, i have repeated my feelings so many times, even spoofed it all (cc to "news" dept...) so i'm happy that i don't have to be the only one. frankly, it is embarrassing and highly unprofessional.
Love and resentment at the USA (my country): anything i say will either be embraced or villified, depending on yr POV about our country and govt. i also have mixed feelings about US govt, us history, foreign policy, based on many factors and lots! of years of experience. the obama govt i support, i am grateful for (after 8 years of HEllo-Bushi), but my support is not unconditional. i certainly do not support the cont'd wars in iran or afghanistan, though the taliban utterly revolts and disgusts me (as did saddam insane.) there has to be a better way, it is just endless, even "centrist" sen. dianne feinstein shows waning enthusiasm. war -- war -- war. i spent much of my young life opposing the vietnam war -- i could never get paid enough for those volunteer hours. i will never regret any of it.
but in the case of the balkans i supported and continue to support US involvement absolutely. should have been so much sooner, early 90s, ignored the europeans and all the milosevic lies, stopped the wars early on, saved so many! lives. instad 100's of thousands (of all ethnicities, duh) had to die, and for what? and yes i am bitter, i am angry. so many war criminals remain throughout the balkans, and as svetlana broz confided to me, "you never know whose bloody hand you are shaking in belgrade." everyone can scream at me, call me racist, i don't give a sh-t, it is true; there is an absolute refusal to acknowledge the crimes and horrors of the past, just a handful of trials push by intl's and human rights people (kandic) -- otherwise nothing. shame!
and yes, there are criminals being protected on all sides, and it is sickening, and the families of the victims suffer miserably, just don't get me started!
People of Kosovo/a -- i am so pleased at yr independence, at yr progress -- well aware of the hell of the colonial period(s). things are not perfect but we are making great progress, and for the cynics here i could care less! they are bitter losers, to say the least. we must continue to look forward, to progress.
i can't make any promises for the eu, i'm not a part of it, am often critical of them... but as for the US we have supported freedom and independence for kosovo/a and will continue to do so. i don't expect anyone to get on their hands and knees and bless us -- just to work together, and take good help and advice when it comes yr way. give and take. but just remain critical, in a good way.
When are you expacting the other "province" Vojvodina to sign this agreement?
(troika melb, 15 September 2009 11:27)
Troika - mayby You in Australia don't know, that Vojvodina has SERB MAJORITY - so Your dreaming is only dreaming.
USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans
(PRN, 15 September 2009 11:50)
You are wrong - this is the strongest example of US vassalization on the Balkans ;)
'What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?'
A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula, a traditionally unstable part of Europe, the U.S.' most important ally. It's the same thinking that was behind the Marshall Plan after WWII - rebuild the economy and break the cycle of wars. It was one of the best investments the country ever made.
(Amer, 15 September 2009 14:22)
Sorry, but I must ask - are You on drugs??
"Thaci said that the agreement reaffirmed the U.S.’s aspirations to support and help Kosovo, stressing that the money would be used in the most transparent manner"- That's a lie, in the famous words of Senator Joe Wilson. There has never been anything transparent in the Kosovo/US relationship. The dirty CIA worked covertly with KLA terrorists to create a crime-ridden narco-state - that was the birth of an Albanian Kosovo - the evil parent keeps giving an allowance to it's illegitimate child.
It's a long and difficult road for a state to establish itself, especially given the tragic circumstances of its economy being leveled and its people divided as a result of a now-neighbor. But I can see Kosovo making progress and quite frankly the only ones who have ill-will against Kosovo and don't want it to succeed are Serbs. And here we are, contradicting ourselves, claiming Kosovo is our holy land. And Serbia had 100 years to make amends. But that era of fighting is over, we hope, and Kosovo and Serbia will reason out their misunderstandings sooner or later as two European states.
'Sorry to burst your bubble, but sadly the three elements of:
i)stable
ii)democratic
iii)prosperous
will never be met by the current or future regime of any Kosmet Albanian-run only Pristina government.'
Exactly the response to the idea of helping the Germans and Japanese after WWII. And in this case, the people of Kosovo actually support the idea of democracy. Simply denying any chance of success says more about the sayer than about the objective possibilities.
In the history of Balkans, Serbia has always been perceived as a direct threat to the statehood and sovregnity of many nations. Croatian, Bosniaks and Albanians have always seen Serbia as the central threat to their existence, and maybe rightfully so. (Macedonians as well, but they try to put it off for now). The historical precedents are there and very convincing.
Yugoslavia did not need the west to break up, it was an inorganic and un-natural union to start with, and it's fall was only a matter of time.
While Serbia has always had Russia and slavic nations to back it up, these 3 other nations have had none to support them, so naturally they looked west for support and the west was interested of course to offset Russian influence in the region and in Europe. I mean, you think being american colony is bad?..... try to become a Russian puppet or dependent and you will see what authority you will have left.
So this agreement is only in the best interest of Kosovo. At least US is hepling with money and logistics, Serbia never cared for the well being of Kosovo, just read the statistics of public investments in Kosovo even during the best times of Yugoslavia.
The times of "brotherhood and unity" have long gone, and shall never come back again. If K-Alb will dare to enter the Serbian state once again even as an autonomus province, they will die...
Great posting of yours like always. I enjoyed it greatly.
Please continue whenever you have time. This site needs your input. Your efforts to promote truth, human rights and peace are greatly appreciated.
'... we are also aware that they were refusing to expose to danger one of your soldiers and allowing to be killed thousands of our civilians.'
I'm sometimes surprised not to see this opinion expressed more often. The intervention was controversial in the U.S. because there was no direct threat to American interests, and of course the party out of power made this claim repeatedly. If there had been U.S. casualties, there was a chance that it would have been impossible to continue the air strikes. The pilots were frustrated - they were willing to fly lower in order to be able to distinguish their targets better, but the politicians overruled them. Reports of fleeing civilians being struck were sickening, and all anybody here wanted was for the whole thing to end, without Milosevic being in a position to go back and take revenge on the Albanians.
It was an imperfect campaign, and the outcome was imperfect, and the present situation is imperfect. And the politicians in Prishtina have the unenviable job of trying to make the best deal possible for their people under these conditions. Cut 'em a little slack, ok?
Gracious beggars, I have to give Thaci and Sediju that. But money from the US doesn't come without strings. I noticed they backed off the anti-EULEX/Serbia agreement rhetoric.
PRN, you are funny. You have nothing to offer us. Your army can't stand up to insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan. We don't even need Bondsteel. You can't even give us power and water for the base. We have to provide that ourselves. We have Romania and Bulgaria, which have better infastructure and are more strategically located. Bondsteel will close eventually and you will be waving your plastic American flag as we leave. But keep to your dreams. I won't take those away from you.
As an American, I am disgusted by my country's foreign policy. Creating and supporting a state that is run by criminals, is appalling. But wait, my country is also run by criminals - nevermind.
Kosovo and Metohija is no longer a Serbian problem. So we have to do our routine resistance job and wait for the shift of the balance in our favor. Don’t be misled with Grinspen’s and Obama’s fairy tales that the Crisis is behind. None of the problems that caused it has been solved. They just prolong the agony so we have a good chance for the US to withdraw it’s active role. Best if by that time Serbia have a more Serbian and a more decisive government.
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US? Nothing. Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are only interested in free money. Why not do something with that money instead of filling your own pockets and buying expensive German cars? I think Thaci and other Albanians in Kosovo are going to get a rude awakening soon as money begins to dry up. At some point these people will have to do something other than beg for a living."
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After seeing Serbs get all that free money, we said, why not us? How much has serbia borrowed or gotten for free just his year Daniel?
USA is looking for allies and posts. See Poland, England, Baltic States, Albanians, Czech and Turks...all are staunch USA allies and all in very strategic places.
P.S. USA isn't going anywhere, while Europe is graying, USA will add 100 million people to 400,000,000 inhabitants by 2050.China will have more, but they have a mess with "One child" and India will easily balance them out.
To B92 - How can a province sign an inter-state agreement??? shouldn't that be called a province-state agreement or maybe inter-province agreement??? You only show your stupidity and level of professionalism....
"There, there, calm down. We know you're upset because you feel left out of these agreements at the moment, but look... we've drawn up a special agreement just for you. That's even more important and it says that we will be best friends forever... all better now?" (kate)
-- That's basically what it is. Now, doesn't that make you feel special?
"kosovo is heart of albania"
(rolandi)
-- Hm, that's a new one. I've heard "Kosovo je srce Srbije". But "heart of Albania?" Are you sure you aren't copying from someone else's work again?
"This agreement between the Albanian leadership and the USA has nothing to do with the well being of the people of Kosovo, this is all about global politics and the weapons are ideas of sovereignty." (miles)
-- It's completely patron-client relation. Just like Russia telling Abkhazia it's a real life state too. But let's not forget this undoubtedly guarantees more money lining Hash's pockets. Pay off the pro-Washington clan leader so he can fight the anti-Washington clan leader.
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
-- You've got to be kidding me. Oh, but I scrolled down and saw it was written by PRN, so never mind.
"What can an independent Kosovo offer the US?" (Daniel)
-- Some place on the world map where policymakers can point to and know a bunch of "Muslims" like America. That and a rest stop called Bondsteel.
"A stable, democratic, prosperous Kosovo will help to stabilize the entire Balkan peninsula," (Amer)
-- We've got a looong ways to go before that's even remotely visible, and by the time that's potentially arguable, Kosovo will be institutionally Daytonized.
A nice feel good moment for the camera, and a great way for Hash, Hysterical, and Sej to look like they're still politically relevant. Funny how such a momentous event wasn't noted in American newspapers. But in this day, even Iraq has to struggle to make front page news.
"the U.S.' most important ally" - laughable to think that Albanians are the U.S.' most important ally. First and foremost, Serbia has much more to offer the US in terms of economic benefit, second there are far more important allies past that of Albanians that the US currently has relations with, including the UK.
Roberto - mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back grabbed Native American lands?? How many US Amerindians live in poverty in "reservations" like in third world??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will recognize Republic of Lakotah on the territories of N./S. Dakota??
Mayby Your "nice" colonial country will back to Mexico territories of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California grabbed in 19th century??
You have long history of broken treaties and stealing land of other nations (Amerindians, Mexico, Spain, Cuba). Today - You need steal territory of Serbia.
Ps. My congratulation for Canada for kick off US aggresors in 1775-1776 and 1812 ;)
"Serbian Defence Minister Dragan Sutanovac, whose subservience to NATO warrants a treason charge, said that "This is the largest military exercise of this type in the world, whose organisation and planning lasted for a year. This is a major promotion for our defence system."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15209
"USA-Kosova-Albania alliance is by far the strongest international multiple alliance in Balkans."
You are right except for the Kosovo and Albania part. Albania and Kosovo have zero strength economically or militarilly. Greece in NATO is the strongest representation in the Balkan.
"...a multi-ethnic and prosperous state for all the ethnic communities that lived there."
Wow, what a perfect description of what Kosovo was like before the war...the Albanian population had their own language, own schools, freedom of religion...heck, the Albanian population of Kosovo were even allowed to pick on the Serbian minority without any difficulty...now that's democracy! America, you totally miss the point again!!
Troika - are You still dreaming?? Do You know that soviet republics of Ukraine and Belorussia were foundators of United Nations?? This soviet republics were MEMBERS of United Nations. Were Soviet Ukraine and Belorussia independent?? No my friend... They signed international deals etc., they worked in United Nations General Assembly etc.
Two other orginal members (from 1945) were not independent at this time - British India (independence in 1945) and Philippine (independence in 1946). Today Palestine (only Autonomy) is UN member.
So - we know five UN members, who were (or is) not independent, but were UN members. Today "independent" Kosovo have any chance for UN membership - have smaller rights than nonindependent members of UN ;)
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