Chinese defense minister in Belgrade

NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

We did listen to you and that's precisely what happened:

China did not recognized Kosovo - and as consequence (Condi) Rice is no more in the office. No more Rice for China.

To village-bey; People trafficking, drug smuggling, rascism, gangsterism, and chronic instability are also modern day scourges. The powers that be in Kosovo excel in all the above. Perhaps you and your ilk should concentrate in putting your own house in order, before handing out advice to others.

This has to be a joke, right?
(Peggy, 7 September 2009 14:55)

Not, it's not. Indeed, "no more Rice for China" is the reality on the ground because Billary replaced her.

But to say the truth, Clinton is an other bad joke.

NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)
--
So the US has stopped selling rice to China because it hasn't recognised Kosovo? Wow, China is in big trouble now! It better hurry-up and do as the K-Albanians want before the whole country and it's 1.3 billion population simply vanish.

find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

So you mean that Serbia will produce rice for China, interesting development!

Second post

As to the sales of arms, it would be interesting to see what it represents in % compared to what the US exports.
For your information an interesting link from a today's newspaper, in french, but basically it says
that the US sells 70% of the world weaponery, Italian being the second one and Russian the third one, way behind the US.
More interesting, while the weapons sales in other countries has decreased the last two years the US has increased by 50%, most probalby for the sake of democracy!!

http://www.lematin.ch/actu/70-armes-vendues-usa-162176

find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

This has to be a joke, right?

China is bankrolling the US and this poor misguided Hazel thinks that the Chinese will starve without American rice or whatever US is giving to them.

A report out just last month says that the US is the largest importer and exporter of small arms.

Jul 17, 2009
(MarketWatch) --"The biggest importer of small arms in the world isn't a rogue or war-torn nation. It's us, the United States.

According to a report out this month, we are the largest exporter of small arms too, making America the largest small-arms dealer in the world. "

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cost-of-small-arms-may-be-too-expensive

Its a pleasure and honour to have guests from great and friendly countries like china. Willy nilly east will be our future and that's because west drove us there with hypocrisy and hostility i've never seen outside full wars.

and then look at this only marginally better than rice boy comment :)
'Proliferation of small arms being one of the major scourges'
In new jersey they say human organs black market is even worse. how about them newjersians :))

Only a few years back an ad hoc UN committee was accusing Serbia of violating ban on arms exports by selling thousands of guns, hand grenades and mines to Liberia.
(village-bey, 7 September 2009 19:41)

Once upon a time the US killed nearly the entire native indian population...

Come on shape up!

"the visit of chinese minister is just for bussines.now that america stop gavining rice to china ,the chinese tryin to find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE."

What a disturbing and badly written comment, if not only for its stunning ignorance that borders on xenophobia (chinese only interested in rice). Clearly someone who has a problem with the chinese.

As to village-bey's 'semi-educated' comment on export of small arms, it should be noted that if this is his requirement for comparison, then the US is much closer to china, being the major exporter of small arms globally and refusing to control the export of such weapons that cause between 60 & 90% of direct conflict deaths worldwide.

Please view the Small Arms Survey FAQ:
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/files/sas/home/FAQ.html#FAQ3

As hard as I have tried, I cannot find Serbia marked under 'major exporter of small arms', so village-bey's comparison between the two is very sloppy to say the least.

Duh!

the liberation of kosmet will be a masterpiece & hopefully a scheme for the liberation of taiwan ...

with both pseudo-states having the same evil muppet-player in the background this is just natural ...

For Hazel,

Top Ten Rice Producers by Country
Together, China and India accounted for over half of the world’s rice supply in 2006.

1. China … 182 million tons (28.8% of global rice harvest)

2. India … 136.5 million tons (21.6%)

3. Indonesia … 54.4 million tons (8.6%)

4. Bangladesh … 43.7 million tons (6.9%)

5. Vietnam … 35.8 million tons (5.7%)

6. Thailand … 29.3 million tons (4.6%)

7. Myanamar … 25.2 million tons (4%)

8. Philippines … 15.3 million tons (2.4%)

9. Brazil … 11.5 million tons (1.8%)

10. Japan … 10.7 million tons (1.7%).

Other Leading Rice Farming Nations
11. United States … 8.8 million tons (1.4% of global rice harvest)

12. Pakistan … 8.1 million tons (1.3%)

13. Korea Rep … 6.3 million tons (1%)

14. Cambodia … 6.3 million tons (1%)

15. Egypt … 6.1 million tons (1%)

16. Nepal … 4.2 million tons (0.7%)

17. Nigeria … 3.6 million tons (0.6%)

18. Iran … 3.5 million tons (0.6%)

19. Madagascar … 3.5 million tons (0.6%)

20. Sri Lanka … 3.3 million tons (0.5%)

21. Laos … 2.7 million tons (0.4%)

22. Colombia … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

23. Korea DPR … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

24. Peru … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

25. Malaysia … 2.2 million tons (0.3%).

Your comment amazed us Hazel. Thanks I haven't laughed so much in ages.

Kosovo je Srbija

Two superpowers join forces. B92 didn't report but Tadic went to China flying...ECONOMY class. That's how important and how much sway /prestige Serbia has.
(aRtA, 7 September 2009 20:59)

If your info is right, which coming from you must be right....then congratulation to Mr Tadic for saving tax payers' money.
I wished our Swiss politicians would also have such a wisdom too!

Dear readers,

Please don't feed the troll hazel.
Thank You.

To village-bey; People trafficking, drug smuggling, rascism, gangsterism, and chronic instability are also modern day scourges. The powers that be in Kosovo excel in all the above.
---
Not as much as in Serbia, feel free to read the crime section. Or are you too busy repeating the same stuff to look at yourself?

I can´t help it... I can´t get this feeling away that our dear k-albanian friends cannot but complain about rice not being delivered to China, or some alleged economy class flights.

well, it seems as if they are getting nervous, if they were not nervous even before.

I cannot imagine any other reason for them to write so much nonsense, just because of a chinese official visiting Serbia... =)


a rice-embargo against China... Jesus, do these kids live on the backside of the moon??? unbelievable.

what are they telling these kids in those cheap yellow-papers in down-town Priština??? and what´s even more frightening: these kiddies seem to believe that crap!

as I said: unbelievable.

One thing that both countries have in common is that they are both major exporters of small arms. Proliferation of small arms being one of the major scourges of our modern times.

Swiss
You have to distinguish between conventional arms sales and small arms trade, the latter having a direct impact on some poorest and most unfortunate people in the world.
You have to also distinguish between sales to repressive regimes like Egypt or Saudi from that of states or other non-state actor who have a highlighted tendency to use them openly against civilians, population at large or towards specific segments of population.
In this contest no state in the world surpasses China. Her ability to mass-produce small arms on a gigantic scale is not disputed.
“77% of the world's weapons were in the hands of 20 states. China, the Russian Federation and North Korea had the world's largest estimated firearms arsenals, standing at 41 million, 30 million and 14 million firearms, respectively. The United States, with 3 million firearms, ranked twelfth”.
That combined with China’s preference to sell to places like Sudan is a lethal concoction with dire consequences for many civilians around the world. Serbia although proportionally much smaller shares the same ethos as China.
On June 11 2006, Amnesty International issued a report criticizing China for selling arms to countries that abuse human rights. The report is titled "People's Republic of China: Sustaining conflict and human rights abuses; the flow of arms accelerates."

Amnesty International noted that China is emerging as one of the world's major arms exporters. Moreover, its arms sales are an integral part of the trade it is developing with countries. "Over the last 20 years China has supplied a range of military, security and police equipment to countries with a record of gross human rights violations," accused the report.
Amnesty International argued that the export of conventional weapons and small arms, "has been contributing to human rights violations including in brutal armed conflicts."
Amnesty International argued that the export of conventional weapons and small arms, "has been contributing to human rights violations including in brutal armed conflicts."
In Nepal, the report noted, China has supplied small arms and light weapons to the armed forces, which have been responsible for much of the killings and torture, often of civilians, in the internal armed conflict.
Sorry for the delay but I had to go to work.

"By protecting the right of Serbia in Kosovo, we protect the right to one China, he continued, and reminded that Serbia "supports one and united China".

The Serbian official is trying to be smart by drawing that analogy which in FACT is inappropriate and malitious. Let me tell you why.
Tawainese are Chinese by culture, language, nationality etc etc.
Kosova Albanians ahd Serbians are two different nations. It would be more appropriate for Albania to claim Kosova as one Albania rather Serbia. One more thing for record. Albania and Kosova recognise one China.

Alex,
Nothing wrong with writing a semi or quarterly educated comment. People need to be more aware of so called experts.
The purpose of every comment is to stand the scrutiny of other commentators.
As far as I am concerned mine still stands, as you have produced nothing to devaluate my arguments.
You cannot repudiate claims towards China by attacking the US’s record. That’s pretty foolish.
My original comment “One thing that both countries have in common is that they are both major exporters of small arms.” My following comment
“Serbia although proportionally much smaller shares the same ethos as China.”
Only a few years back an ad hoc UN committee was accusing Serbia of violating ban on arms exports by selling thousands of guns, hand grenades and mines to Liberia.

Dear village-bey,

I hadn't seen you second post (note that I wrote 'comment on small arms..', not 'commentS..') before I had composed and sent my first point, therefore I could not have commented on, nor as you claim "repudiate claims towards China by attacking the US’s record."

Still, my post points out that a) there are many countries ahead of serbia who are 'major exporters', b) that the US has refused to place controls on the export of US manufactured small weapons.

Drawing some sort of moral equivalence between the two in particular is still a very poor and non sustainable argument.

That Serbia exported weapons to Liberia, I do not doubt, but this pales by far in comparison to a multitude of other examples by so called 'good' states who have behaved as badly, if not worse in fueling war zones, export rules or no.

I suppose a point should be made about the recent arrest of the belgian Mr. Jacques Francois (who amongst other things helped to bring in small arms from Iran on behalf of the US to Croatia and Bosnia) and the ukranian Viktor Bout, peddlers of small arms often on the behalf of certain governments and also where many of those arms came from, particularly the massive stocks of weapons that were left over from Warsaw Pact arsenals.

Despite the EU's good record, EU states also fueled the wars in the balkans either directly (ex-GDR stocks) or through third parties such as the Ukraine etc. Rather than destroying them which is required under the initial and then updated Conventional Forces Treaty, there was no restriction on either just giving them away or selling them, so supposedly good examples of sensible export guidelines could be ignored.

nothing gives me more confidence and assurance that things will be again and once more right for Serbia -than our ties with China.
The world's most powerful nation happens to be our true friend in heart.
Well now, that is something.

the visit of chinese minister is just for bussines.now that america stop gavining rice to china ,the chinese tryin to find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.

Two superpowers join forces. B92 didn't report but Tadic went to China flying...ECONOMY class. That's how important and how much sway /prestige Serbia has.

In new jersey they say human organs black market is even worse. how about them newjersians :))
(rahman morina, 7 September 2009 19:14)

(rahman morina

First of all there is no such name in ALBANIAN.

rahman morina=Slobo Miloshevic

in ALBANIAN is Ramon Morina. Nice try Slobo.
What do you know about New Jersey???

the visit of chinese minister is just for bussines.now that america stop gavining rice to china ,the chinese tryin to find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.

One thing that both countries have in common is that they are both major exporters of small arms. Proliferation of small arms being one of the major scourges of our modern times.

To village-bey; People trafficking, drug smuggling, rascism, gangsterism, and chronic instability are also modern day scourges. The powers that be in Kosovo excel in all the above.
---
Not as much as in Serbia, feel free to read the crime section. Or are you too busy repeating the same stuff to look at yourself?

"By protecting the right of Serbia in Kosovo, we protect the right to one China, he continued, and reminded that Serbia "supports one and united China".

The Serbian official is trying to be smart by drawing that analogy which in FACT is inappropriate and malitious. Let me tell you why.
Tawainese are Chinese by culture, language, nationality etc etc.
Kosova Albanians ahd Serbians are two different nations. It would be more appropriate for Albania to claim Kosova as one Albania rather Serbia. One more thing for record. Albania and Kosova recognise one China.

Two superpowers join forces. B92 didn't report but Tadic went to China flying...ECONOMY class. That's how important and how much sway /prestige Serbia has.

Alex,
Nothing wrong with writing a semi or quarterly educated comment. People need to be more aware of so called experts.
The purpose of every comment is to stand the scrutiny of other commentators.
As far as I am concerned mine still stands, as you have produced nothing to devaluate my arguments.
You cannot repudiate claims towards China by attacking the US’s record. That’s pretty foolish.
My original comment “One thing that both countries have in common is that they are both major exporters of small arms.” My following comment
“Serbia although proportionally much smaller shares the same ethos as China.”
Only a few years back an ad hoc UN committee was accusing Serbia of violating ban on arms exports by selling thousands of guns, hand grenades and mines to Liberia.

Swiss
You have to distinguish between conventional arms sales and small arms trade, the latter having a direct impact on some poorest and most unfortunate people in the world.
You have to also distinguish between sales to repressive regimes like Egypt or Saudi from that of states or other non-state actor who have a highlighted tendency to use them openly against civilians, population at large or towards specific segments of population.
In this contest no state in the world surpasses China. Her ability to mass-produce small arms on a gigantic scale is not disputed.
“77% of the world's weapons were in the hands of 20 states. China, the Russian Federation and North Korea had the world's largest estimated firearms arsenals, standing at 41 million, 30 million and 14 million firearms, respectively. The United States, with 3 million firearms, ranked twelfth”.
That combined with China’s preference to sell to places like Sudan is a lethal concoction with dire consequences for many civilians around the world. Serbia although proportionally much smaller shares the same ethos as China.
On June 11 2006, Amnesty International issued a report criticizing China for selling arms to countries that abuse human rights. The report is titled "People's Republic of China: Sustaining conflict and human rights abuses; the flow of arms accelerates."

Amnesty International noted that China is emerging as one of the world's major arms exporters. Moreover, its arms sales are an integral part of the trade it is developing with countries. "Over the last 20 years China has supplied a range of military, security and police equipment to countries with a record of gross human rights violations," accused the report.
Amnesty International argued that the export of conventional weapons and small arms, "has been contributing to human rights violations including in brutal armed conflicts."
Amnesty International argued that the export of conventional weapons and small arms, "has been contributing to human rights violations including in brutal armed conflicts."
In Nepal, the report noted, China has supplied small arms and light weapons to the armed forces, which have been responsible for much of the killings and torture, often of civilians, in the internal armed conflict.
Sorry for the delay but I had to go to work.

find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

This has to be a joke, right?

China is bankrolling the US and this poor misguided Hazel thinks that the Chinese will starve without American rice or whatever US is giving to them.

In new jersey they say human organs black market is even worse. how about them newjersians :))
(rahman morina, 7 September 2009 19:14)

(rahman morina

First of all there is no such name in ALBANIAN.

rahman morina=Slobo Miloshevic

in ALBANIAN is Ramon Morina. Nice try Slobo.
What do you know about New Jersey???

NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)
--
So the US has stopped selling rice to China because it hasn't recognised Kosovo? Wow, China is in big trouble now! It better hurry-up and do as the K-Albanians want before the whole country and it's 1.3 billion population simply vanish.

To village-bey; People trafficking, drug smuggling, rascism, gangsterism, and chronic instability are also modern day scourges. The powers that be in Kosovo excel in all the above. Perhaps you and your ilk should concentrate in putting your own house in order, before handing out advice to others.

"the visit of chinese minister is just for bussines.now that america stop gavining rice to china ,the chinese tryin to find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE."

What a disturbing and badly written comment, if not only for its stunning ignorance that borders on xenophobia (chinese only interested in rice). Clearly someone who has a problem with the chinese.

As to village-bey's 'semi-educated' comment on export of small arms, it should be noted that if this is his requirement for comparison, then the US is much closer to china, being the major exporter of small arms globally and refusing to control the export of such weapons that cause between 60 & 90% of direct conflict deaths worldwide.

Please view the Small Arms Survey FAQ:
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/files/sas/home/FAQ.html#FAQ3

As hard as I have tried, I cannot find Serbia marked under 'major exporter of small arms', so village-bey's comparison between the two is very sloppy to say the least.

Duh!

find another solution to their food program.NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

So you mean that Serbia will produce rice for China, interesting development!

Second post

As to the sales of arms, it would be interesting to see what it represents in % compared to what the US exports.
For your information an interesting link from a today's newspaper, in french, but basically it says
that the US sells 70% of the world weaponery, Italian being the second one and Russian the third one, way behind the US.
More interesting, while the weapons sales in other countries has decreased the last two years the US has increased by 50%, most probalby for the sake of democracy!!

http://www.lematin.ch/actu/70-armes-vendues-usa-162176

Only a few years back an ad hoc UN committee was accusing Serbia of violating ban on arms exports by selling thousands of guns, hand grenades and mines to Liberia.
(village-bey, 7 September 2009 19:41)

Once upon a time the US killed nearly the entire native indian population...

Come on shape up!

This has to be a joke, right?
(Peggy, 7 September 2009 14:55)

Not, it's not. Indeed, "no more Rice for China" is the reality on the ground because Billary replaced her.

But to say the truth, Clinton is an other bad joke.

NO MORE RICE FOR CHINA TIL YOU RECODNISE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE.
(hazel, 7 September 2009 11:54)

We did listen to you and that's precisely what happened:

China did not recognized Kosovo - and as consequence (Condi) Rice is no more in the office. No more Rice for China.

the liberation of kosmet will be a masterpiece & hopefully a scheme for the liberation of taiwan ...

with both pseudo-states having the same evil muppet-player in the background this is just natural ...

Dear village-bey,

I hadn't seen you second post (note that I wrote 'comment on small arms..', not 'commentS..') before I had composed and sent my first point, therefore I could not have commented on, nor as you claim "repudiate claims towards China by attacking the US’s record."

Still, my post points out that a) there are many countries ahead of serbia who are 'major exporters', b) that the US has refused to place controls on the export of US manufactured small weapons.

Drawing some sort of moral equivalence between the two in particular is still a very poor and non sustainable argument.

That Serbia exported weapons to Liberia, I do not doubt, but this pales by far in comparison to a multitude of other examples by so called 'good' states who have behaved as badly, if not worse in fueling war zones, export rules or no.

I suppose a point should be made about the recent arrest of the belgian Mr. Jacques Francois (who amongst other things helped to bring in small arms from Iran on behalf of the US to Croatia and Bosnia) and the ukranian Viktor Bout, peddlers of small arms often on the behalf of certain governments and also where many of those arms came from, particularly the massive stocks of weapons that were left over from Warsaw Pact arsenals.

Despite the EU's good record, EU states also fueled the wars in the balkans either directly (ex-GDR stocks) or through third parties such as the Ukraine etc. Rather than destroying them which is required under the initial and then updated Conventional Forces Treaty, there was no restriction on either just giving them away or selling them, so supposedly good examples of sensible export guidelines could be ignored.

A report out just last month says that the US is the largest importer and exporter of small arms.

Jul 17, 2009
(MarketWatch) --"The biggest importer of small arms in the world isn't a rogue or war-torn nation. It's us, the United States.

According to a report out this month, we are the largest exporter of small arms too, making America the largest small-arms dealer in the world. "

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cost-of-small-arms-may-be-too-expensive

Its a pleasure and honour to have guests from great and friendly countries like china. Willy nilly east will be our future and that's because west drove us there with hypocrisy and hostility i've never seen outside full wars.

and then look at this only marginally better than rice boy comment :)
'Proliferation of small arms being one of the major scourges'
In new jersey they say human organs black market is even worse. how about them newjersians :))

Two superpowers join forces. B92 didn't report but Tadic went to China flying...ECONOMY class. That's how important and how much sway /prestige Serbia has.
(aRtA, 7 September 2009 20:59)

If your info is right, which coming from you must be right....then congratulation to Mr Tadic for saving tax payers' money.
I wished our Swiss politicians would also have such a wisdom too!

For Hazel,

Top Ten Rice Producers by Country
Together, China and India accounted for over half of the world’s rice supply in 2006.

1. China … 182 million tons (28.8% of global rice harvest)

2. India … 136.5 million tons (21.6%)

3. Indonesia … 54.4 million tons (8.6%)

4. Bangladesh … 43.7 million tons (6.9%)

5. Vietnam … 35.8 million tons (5.7%)

6. Thailand … 29.3 million tons (4.6%)

7. Myanamar … 25.2 million tons (4%)

8. Philippines … 15.3 million tons (2.4%)

9. Brazil … 11.5 million tons (1.8%)

10. Japan … 10.7 million tons (1.7%).

Other Leading Rice Farming Nations
11. United States … 8.8 million tons (1.4% of global rice harvest)

12. Pakistan … 8.1 million tons (1.3%)

13. Korea Rep … 6.3 million tons (1%)

14. Cambodia … 6.3 million tons (1%)

15. Egypt … 6.1 million tons (1%)

16. Nepal … 4.2 million tons (0.7%)

17. Nigeria … 3.6 million tons (0.6%)

18. Iran … 3.5 million tons (0.6%)

19. Madagascar … 3.5 million tons (0.6%)

20. Sri Lanka … 3.3 million tons (0.5%)

21. Laos … 2.7 million tons (0.4%)

22. Colombia … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

23. Korea DPR … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

24. Peru … 2.5 million tons (0.4%)

25. Malaysia … 2.2 million tons (0.3%).

Your comment amazed us Hazel. Thanks I haven't laughed so much in ages.

Kosovo je Srbija

I can´t help it... I can´t get this feeling away that our dear k-albanian friends cannot but complain about rice not being delivered to China, or some alleged economy class flights.

well, it seems as if they are getting nervous, if they were not nervous even before.

I cannot imagine any other reason for them to write so much nonsense, just because of a chinese official visiting Serbia... =)


a rice-embargo against China... Jesus, do these kids live on the backside of the moon??? unbelievable.

what are they telling these kids in those cheap yellow-papers in down-town Priština??? and what´s even more frightening: these kiddies seem to believe that crap!

as I said: unbelievable.

nothing gives me more confidence and assurance that things will be again and once more right for Serbia -than our ties with China.
The world's most powerful nation happens to be our true friend in heart.
Well now, that is something.

Dear readers,

Please don't feed the troll hazel.
Thank You.