Everyone can speak out his/her mind,be it a politician or a private citizen.The bottom line is that Kosovo does NOT want to have ANYTHING to do with Serbia,except to live in peace as neighbours!As for the offer made by Serbia " Less then a Republic ,more then autonomy" , everyone knows how Serbia's appetite was/is for neighbour Countries!That offer was a joke from the beginning and is becoming a fairytale lately.
"40 million Kurds have nothing and the EU and UN are spending so much time on Kosovo."
Oh Yes Ben - remember that USA stopped Kurds, who need their own country. They fought years against dictator, with tens or maybe hunderds of thousands casualties, they supported US Army in Iraq, but finally USA supported Iraq integrity and said "NO" for Kurdistan independence.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Joe, one can tell you were not at the riots back then. I don't know about you, but having chunks of concrete thrown at my head constitutes deadly force to me. There was nothing disproportionate about what the Romanian FPU did. It was unfortunate that those people died - but there is no safe way to participate in a felonious riot.
I know this off topic and all, but I had to point it out.
My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries
May be is the other way arround! The are discrimanated in their countries (where the set up of rigid borders stopped their constant migration) because they are begging, stealing... Now that they are in your city, please give the stupid East Europeans how to integrate the Roma people so they will stop begging and stealing. The lesson will be highly appreciated. Long live the EU!
Romania and Russia should be more concerned about their own citizens,how much they suffer in this crissis and specialy treatment of minorities in this two countries.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Romanian troops are a lot more impartial than US troops and they are there so what's your point?
US troops were not invited by Serbia whose land they currently occupy and they are the ones who need to go. If you don't like it you can follow them home.
But are the English and German forces impartial? These countries recognized the illegal independence? Which is a bad thing as it is against international law and 1244.
EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
(aRTA, 4 September 2009 19:22)
You really made me laugh. I literally had to laugh. You really think the UN and the EU (remember that UN is in charge) is afraid of some Kosovo Albanians?
Conduct a reality check, my friend.
Kosovo is ruled by UN and EU. If you do not like that end 1244 by coming up with a mutual agreed deal.
Just an honest messege to both Russia and Romania. Don't get too much "concerned" about Kosova but look after yourselves first. Plenty of internal problems to solve in your respective countries. If you don' know I am happy to list them for you))
"Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force."
Dear Joe,
What was the object of the riot during which that tragic thing happened (actually 2 albanian civilians)?
Find out the answer to this question and you'll find out the driving force of many things.
Frankly, besides the usual frustrations quite often present in the comments, shouldn't everybody be concerned with what's going on in Kosovo? I mean why is this news and not waves and waves of statements and plans of democratic measures coming from Thaci and the rest?
Romanian soldiers, as part of NATO troops, and under NATO's command, were members of a NATO unit that helped disperse a crowd of angry protesters intend on doing physical harm to NATO property. Why did Albanians want to damage NATO property? Why did they toss their red paint on buildings? These are acts of vandalism, and who knows what the intent of the Albanian protesters was. Maybe they wanted to kill someone? NATO troops did their job, do not single out Romanians. They are peacekeepers in Kosovo, and the Serbs want them there.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
(adrian, timisoara, romania, 4 September 2009 16:20)
adrian, that's all right!
All other EU members that haven't recognized Kosova have done so, because internal separatists issues and not because they are against it in principle.
Ironically Romania partners with Russia in this issue, while when it comes to Transnistria they are in the opposing camps.
By the way, being from Timisoara earns you a great deal of respect since it was that city that started riots against Causcescu.
Not only Roumania and Russia are concerned about this black hole, at least all the countries that didn't recon this illegal UDI; furthermore don't forget K-As, from the 62 that backed it you have so many tiny islands that certainly never heard about kosovo until somebody told them, sign here and get your ckeck.... great deal!
Moreover don't forget that the top 10 agreed on a conditional independance backed by 1244, you seam to forget this crucial element.
Get it once for all, you are not the center of the world and after the US got the spot they wanted you became a "let's move further to dupe some more".
Great, you got a flag and now what, soon 2 years after you have only move backwards and have now EULEX telling you what to do, this is how much your "friends" trust your muppet show govnt, another great achievement!
How many golden expats returned, 0.00%?, unemployment 40, 50% do you even know it? unemployment in the youth 60, 70%, multi-etnicity? (any idea what it means)?
Congratulation
This is the reality, time to wake up and work a bit and stop to bother us with your nationalistic arrogant attitude unless you really want to digg further your hole!
Remember we are in the 21st century and the world is changing rapidly and you can't dupe anymore so easily people.
US (Amb. Dell) and Germany (through Doris Pack) were on our side yesterday now this county called Romania (EU's ground zero in corruption and pick pocket crime--just read Italian, Spanish and Irish press) is throwing its weight behind serbia.
Meanwhile, if the agreement is not signed until September 22nd, Serbia has to wait 1 more year for visas. Kosova will agree to it ONLY if it's a signatory. EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
What can be said that isn't obvious? Albanians acting under the guise of US-led multiethnicity and imposing a benignly fascist system on a group of people who want nothing to do with their role? Disagree with my statement? Reverse the equation to where Serbs are forcing Albanians into something and it may become more clear.
I'm sorry if some people here bristle at statements of Albanians "compressing Serb territory" but it's true. It's bad enough Pristina can't suffer various enclaves and municipalities that don't "respect their authoritah" but to use companies like KEK to act as indirect muscle, making life as difficult as can be is something right out of Milosevic's handbook. In another life, some of these Albanians would have been active members of the SPS and SRS.
Some can also claim that Russia and Romania are saying this for political gains. Fair enough, but so is the US and UK who keep trying to convince the world that Kosovo is a "functioning state".
"By the way, it is a bit old news but in August research showed that 1/3 of the Kosovo youth want to leave Kosovo." (Ron).
-- Not surprising, and I imagined nearly half of Kosovo's population would have used their newly minted passports to buy a one-way ticket out of the region. But then we read about EU states imposing quotas on the number of Albanians that can move around. Give them the illusion of freedom, but halt their mobility. I don't agree with it, but apparently Germany and others are avid adherents to NIMBY laws.
(svojgazda, Well Belgrade or Rusia cannot help you building houses in south of Kosovo. Only the goverment in Prishtina can help you and by your statment above you are turning down that offer. Well you are free to do that but don't cry out discrimination when you cannot move to south Kosovo. It is not the albanians fault that you cannot rebuild in Kosovo.
When one reads the Romanian press release you would get an impression that this is some kind of regional superpower with great influence over the region. Those of us who understand Romania's place in he region get a little chuckle. Romania has zero, zilch, nada influence over Kosovo. Why then waste your countries bandwidth to release this statement?
arta, I have never ever seen you post anythibg positive to do with the Serb side. Can everything be negative to do with Serbs, and everything positive to do with Albanians? A reality check is due, your anger is blinding you - Romania is a part of EULEX and has it's troops in harms way Kosovo, so it certainly has a right to a say on the situation there. Remember, you do not have total independence in Kosovo, you were not given that.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
Shmulman, Serbs do not want anything to do with Albanians in Pristina government. They do not want to be ruled by non-Serbs on their own land. This has nothing to do with Belgrade or Russia. Kosovo Serbs can make their own mind up, thank you.
As always Russia is concerned about her hegemony not about peace.
What we hear here from Russian representative is that for Russia the status quo in the north is OK and any attempt of K-Albanians to repossess their houses in north is against Russian interests.
It astonishes the hypocrisy of the Russian politicians that want to prevent any K-Albanian returnee in north and advocate the separation of Kosova including areas of north Kosova where Albanians are majority.
A pure preparation of the ground for grab as much as you can from Kosova.
Unfortunately all this was made with amen of the UNMIK for 10 years.
Romanian position is on other hand just a warning to Prishtina that not all EU loves them so a bit of responsible and resolute state policy without rising hand and asking for OK about everything wont harm.
The Ministry also voiced its conviction that international organizations in Kosovo would continue to act in a decisive manner, in order to carry out their mandates and avert a deterioration of the situation.
Romania has a contingent of 150 troops in KFOR and 176 officers in EULEX.
"avert a deterioration of the situation"
Mr. smart FM, you are fully aware who is the trouble makers since you have your Romanian SPU acting up north , but their base is accross from Green Market in Peja/Pec.
Romania should have done the same as Spain, pull its troops out if you did not recognized Kosova. So what a hell Romanian troops are doing here???
Russian FM can say anything it makes no difference, and at least they were brave enough to pull their handfull of soldiers long ago.
This all stems from the frustrations of the temporary institutions in Kosovo. They have been promised something by the US that can never be delivered and once our ethnic Albanian citizens believed in this lie, the US handed this matter over to the EU.
It is becoming more and more clear that supervised dependence is not working and that independence can never be achieved. It's time our citizens started working towards peace and prosperity in our province and to stop venting their frustrations others.
Serbia did not lie to you. We have offered you more than the US can ever deliver but you continue to believe in this "independence" lie.
'He added that the clashes highlighted the lack of progress in lifting the “wall of alienation“ that divides Serbs and Albanians.'
You are the 'wall of alienation' and as long as you keep on accusing the Albanians of ‘compressing Serb ethnic territory’, that wall will continue to thicken.
‘prompted by attempts by the Albanians in April and May of this year to unilaterally begin restoring their homes in one of the region’s districts, while not giving the Serbs the same rights.“’
If an Albanian wants to restore HIS/HER house he/she has the right to do so. It is not up to these Albanians to give/not give the Serbs any rights. Therefore any attack on these unfortunate citizens is a crime.
Russia should mind her own business cleaning her own backyard first before Russia can have a saying about Kosovo. Kosovo in difference from Russia is a real democracy where the people of Kosovo despite etnicity or religion have a place in Kosovo. That is why the flag is neutral and serbian is an official language in Kosovo. Serbs also make up 10% of the parlament and have seats as minsiters in the goverment. The problem is that serbs because of serbian and russian propaganda dosen't take advantage of this rights but they choose to live in isolation from the rest of the citizens. Well, if Kosovo should devolepment everybody have to contribute with somthing positive. And from the consitution of Kosovo the serb minority have greater rights than any minority in other places of the world. It will take some time for the serbs to integrate into the Kosovan society but it will happend. Kosovo is whole and is also defined by the flag. There is no conflicts in Kosovo but only some hardtime from the new reality.
And when it comes to Romania she is just playing a game. We are waiting for your recognition Romania. You have no choice in the end because Kosovo is recognized by all your fellow western friends who helped you get into EU.
What about monitoring your discrimination of Roma people in your country. My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries.
This all stems from the frustrations of the temporary institutions in Kosovo. They have been promised something by the US that can never be delivered and once our ethnic Albanian citizens believed in this lie, the US handed this matter over to the EU.
It is becoming more and more clear that supervised dependence is not working and that independence can never be achieved. It's time our citizens started working towards peace and prosperity in our province and to stop venting their frustrations others.
Serbia did not lie to you. We have offered you more than the US can ever deliver but you continue to believe in this "independence" lie.
Shmulman, Serbs do not want anything to do with Albanians in Pristina government. They do not want to be ruled by non-Serbs on their own land. This has nothing to do with Belgrade or Russia. Kosovo Serbs can make their own mind up, thank you.
'He added that the clashes highlighted the lack of progress in lifting the “wall of alienation“ that divides Serbs and Albanians.'
You are the 'wall of alienation' and as long as you keep on accusing the Albanians of ‘compressing Serb ethnic territory’, that wall will continue to thicken.
‘prompted by attempts by the Albanians in April and May of this year to unilaterally begin restoring their homes in one of the region’s districts, while not giving the Serbs the same rights.“’
If an Albanian wants to restore HIS/HER house he/she has the right to do so. It is not up to these Albanians to give/not give the Serbs any rights. Therefore any attack on these unfortunate citizens is a crime.
arta, I have never ever seen you post anythibg positive to do with the Serb side. Can everything be negative to do with Serbs, and everything positive to do with Albanians? A reality check is due, your anger is blinding you - Romania is a part of EULEX and has it's troops in harms way Kosovo, so it certainly has a right to a say on the situation there. Remember, you do not have total independence in Kosovo, you were not given that.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
Russia should mind her own business cleaning her own backyard first before Russia can have a saying about Kosovo. Kosovo in difference from Russia is a real democracy where the people of Kosovo despite etnicity or religion have a place in Kosovo. That is why the flag is neutral and serbian is an official language in Kosovo. Serbs also make up 10% of the parlament and have seats as minsiters in the goverment. The problem is that serbs because of serbian and russian propaganda dosen't take advantage of this rights but they choose to live in isolation from the rest of the citizens. Well, if Kosovo should devolepment everybody have to contribute with somthing positive. And from the consitution of Kosovo the serb minority have greater rights than any minority in other places of the world. It will take some time for the serbs to integrate into the Kosovan society but it will happend. Kosovo is whole and is also defined by the flag. There is no conflicts in Kosovo but only some hardtime from the new reality.
And when it comes to Romania she is just playing a game. We are waiting for your recognition Romania. You have no choice in the end because Kosovo is recognized by all your fellow western friends who helped you get into EU.
What about monitoring your discrimination of Roma people in your country. My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries.
Not only Roumania and Russia are concerned about this black hole, at least all the countries that didn't recon this illegal UDI; furthermore don't forget K-As, from the 62 that backed it you have so many tiny islands that certainly never heard about kosovo until somebody told them, sign here and get your ckeck.... great deal!
Moreover don't forget that the top 10 agreed on a conditional independance backed by 1244, you seam to forget this crucial element.
Get it once for all, you are not the center of the world and after the US got the spot they wanted you became a "let's move further to dupe some more".
Great, you got a flag and now what, soon 2 years after you have only move backwards and have now EULEX telling you what to do, this is how much your "friends" trust your muppet show govnt, another great achievement!
How many golden expats returned, 0.00%?, unemployment 40, 50% do you even know it? unemployment in the youth 60, 70%, multi-etnicity? (any idea what it means)?
Congratulation
This is the reality, time to wake up and work a bit and stop to bother us with your nationalistic arrogant attitude unless you really want to digg further your hole!
Remember we are in the 21st century and the world is changing rapidly and you can't dupe anymore so easily people.
The Ministry also voiced its conviction that international organizations in Kosovo would continue to act in a decisive manner, in order to carry out their mandates and avert a deterioration of the situation.
Romania has a contingent of 150 troops in KFOR and 176 officers in EULEX.
"avert a deterioration of the situation"
Mr. smart FM, you are fully aware who is the trouble makers since you have your Romanian SPU acting up north , but their base is accross from Green Market in Peja/Pec.
Romania should have done the same as Spain, pull its troops out if you did not recognized Kosova. So what a hell Romanian troops are doing here???
Russian FM can say anything it makes no difference, and at least they were brave enough to pull their handfull of soldiers long ago.
What can be said that isn't obvious? Albanians acting under the guise of US-led multiethnicity and imposing a benignly fascist system on a group of people who want nothing to do with their role? Disagree with my statement? Reverse the equation to where Serbs are forcing Albanians into something and it may become more clear.
I'm sorry if some people here bristle at statements of Albanians "compressing Serb territory" but it's true. It's bad enough Pristina can't suffer various enclaves and municipalities that don't "respect their authoritah" but to use companies like KEK to act as indirect muscle, making life as difficult as can be is something right out of Milosevic's handbook. In another life, some of these Albanians would have been active members of the SPS and SRS.
Some can also claim that Russia and Romania are saying this for political gains. Fair enough, but so is the US and UK who keep trying to convince the world that Kosovo is a "functioning state".
"By the way, it is a bit old news but in August research showed that 1/3 of the Kosovo youth want to leave Kosovo." (Ron).
-- Not surprising, and I imagined nearly half of Kosovo's population would have used their newly minted passports to buy a one-way ticket out of the region. But then we read about EU states imposing quotas on the number of Albanians that can move around. Give them the illusion of freedom, but halt their mobility. I don't agree with it, but apparently Germany and others are avid adherents to NIMBY laws.
When one reads the Romanian press release you would get an impression that this is some kind of regional superpower with great influence over the region. Those of us who understand Romania's place in he region get a little chuckle. Romania has zero, zilch, nada influence over Kosovo. Why then waste your countries bandwidth to release this statement?
As always Russia is concerned about her hegemony not about peace.
What we hear here from Russian representative is that for Russia the status quo in the north is OK and any attempt of K-Albanians to repossess their houses in north is against Russian interests.
It astonishes the hypocrisy of the Russian politicians that want to prevent any K-Albanian returnee in north and advocate the separation of Kosova including areas of north Kosova where Albanians are majority.
A pure preparation of the ground for grab as much as you can from Kosova.
Unfortunately all this was made with amen of the UNMIK for 10 years.
Romanian position is on other hand just a warning to Prishtina that not all EU loves them so a bit of responsible and resolute state policy without rising hand and asking for OK about everything wont harm.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Joe, one can tell you were not at the riots back then. I don't know about you, but having chunks of concrete thrown at my head constitutes deadly force to me. There was nothing disproportionate about what the Romanian FPU did. It was unfortunate that those people died - but there is no safe way to participate in a felonious riot.
I know this off topic and all, but I had to point it out.
But are the English and German forces impartial? These countries recognized the illegal independence? Which is a bad thing as it is against international law and 1244.
EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
(aRTA, 4 September 2009 19:22)
You really made me laugh. I literally had to laugh. You really think the UN and the EU (remember that UN is in charge) is afraid of some Kosovo Albanians?
Conduct a reality check, my friend.
Kosovo is ruled by UN and EU. If you do not like that end 1244 by coming up with a mutual agreed deal.
(svojgazda, Well Belgrade or Rusia cannot help you building houses in south of Kosovo. Only the goverment in Prishtina can help you and by your statment above you are turning down that offer. Well you are free to do that but don't cry out discrimination when you cannot move to south Kosovo. It is not the albanians fault that you cannot rebuild in Kosovo.
Romania and Russia should be more concerned about their own citizens,how much they suffer in this crissis and specialy treatment of minorities in this two countries.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
(adrian, timisoara, romania, 4 September 2009 16:20)
adrian, that's all right!
All other EU members that haven't recognized Kosova have done so, because internal separatists issues and not because they are against it in principle.
Ironically Romania partners with Russia in this issue, while when it comes to Transnistria they are in the opposing camps.
By the way, being from Timisoara earns you a great deal of respect since it was that city that started riots against Causcescu.
US (Amb. Dell) and Germany (through Doris Pack) were on our side yesterday now this county called Romania (EU's ground zero in corruption and pick pocket crime--just read Italian, Spanish and Irish press) is throwing its weight behind serbia.
Meanwhile, if the agreement is not signed until September 22nd, Serbia has to wait 1 more year for visas. Kosova will agree to it ONLY if it's a signatory. EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
Just an honest messege to both Russia and Romania. Don't get too much "concerned" about Kosova but look after yourselves first. Plenty of internal problems to solve in your respective countries. If you don' know I am happy to list them for you))
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Romanian troops are a lot more impartial than US troops and they are there so what's your point?
US troops were not invited by Serbia whose land they currently occupy and they are the ones who need to go. If you don't like it you can follow them home.
"40 million Kurds have nothing and the EU and UN are spending so much time on Kosovo."
Oh Yes Ben - remember that USA stopped Kurds, who need their own country. They fought years against dictator, with tens or maybe hunderds of thousands casualties, they supported US Army in Iraq, but finally USA supported Iraq integrity and said "NO" for Kurdistan independence.
Everyone can speak out his/her mind,be it a politician or a private citizen.The bottom line is that Kosovo does NOT want to have ANYTHING to do with Serbia,except to live in peace as neighbours!As for the offer made by Serbia " Less then a Republic ,more then autonomy" , everyone knows how Serbia's appetite was/is for neighbour Countries!That offer was a joke from the beginning and is becoming a fairytale lately.
Romanian soldiers, as part of NATO troops, and under NATO's command, were members of a NATO unit that helped disperse a crowd of angry protesters intend on doing physical harm to NATO property. Why did Albanians want to damage NATO property? Why did they toss their red paint on buildings? These are acts of vandalism, and who knows what the intent of the Albanian protesters was. Maybe they wanted to kill someone? NATO troops did their job, do not single out Romanians. They are peacekeepers in Kosovo, and the Serbs want them there.
"Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force."
Dear Joe,
What was the object of the riot during which that tragic thing happened (actually 2 albanian civilians)?
Find out the answer to this question and you'll find out the driving force of many things.
Frankly, besides the usual frustrations quite often present in the comments, shouldn't everybody be concerned with what's going on in Kosovo? I mean why is this news and not waves and waves of statements and plans of democratic measures coming from Thaci and the rest?
My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries
May be is the other way arround! The are discrimanated in their countries (where the set up of rigid borders stopped their constant migration) because they are begging, stealing... Now that they are in your city, please give the stupid East Europeans how to integrate the Roma people so they will stop begging and stealing. The lesson will be highly appreciated. Long live the EU!
Russia should mind her own business cleaning her own backyard first before Russia can have a saying about Kosovo. Kosovo in difference from Russia is a real democracy where the people of Kosovo despite etnicity or religion have a place in Kosovo. That is why the flag is neutral and serbian is an official language in Kosovo. Serbs also make up 10% of the parlament and have seats as minsiters in the goverment. The problem is that serbs because of serbian and russian propaganda dosen't take advantage of this rights but they choose to live in isolation from the rest of the citizens. Well, if Kosovo should devolepment everybody have to contribute with somthing positive. And from the consitution of Kosovo the serb minority have greater rights than any minority in other places of the world. It will take some time for the serbs to integrate into the Kosovan society but it will happend. Kosovo is whole and is also defined by the flag. There is no conflicts in Kosovo but only some hardtime from the new reality.
And when it comes to Romania she is just playing a game. We are waiting for your recognition Romania. You have no choice in the end because Kosovo is recognized by all your fellow western friends who helped you get into EU.
What about monitoring your discrimination of Roma people in your country. My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries.
The Ministry also voiced its conviction that international organizations in Kosovo would continue to act in a decisive manner, in order to carry out their mandates and avert a deterioration of the situation.
Romania has a contingent of 150 troops in KFOR and 176 officers in EULEX.
"avert a deterioration of the situation"
Mr. smart FM, you are fully aware who is the trouble makers since you have your Romanian SPU acting up north , but their base is accross from Green Market in Peja/Pec.
Romania should have done the same as Spain, pull its troops out if you did not recognized Kosova. So what a hell Romanian troops are doing here???
Russian FM can say anything it makes no difference, and at least they were brave enough to pull their handfull of soldiers long ago.
'He added that the clashes highlighted the lack of progress in lifting the “wall of alienation“ that divides Serbs and Albanians.'
You are the 'wall of alienation' and as long as you keep on accusing the Albanians of ‘compressing Serb ethnic territory’, that wall will continue to thicken.
‘prompted by attempts by the Albanians in April and May of this year to unilaterally begin restoring their homes in one of the region’s districts, while not giving the Serbs the same rights.“’
If an Albanian wants to restore HIS/HER house he/she has the right to do so. It is not up to these Albanians to give/not give the Serbs any rights. Therefore any attack on these unfortunate citizens is a crime.
As always Russia is concerned about her hegemony not about peace.
What we hear here from Russian representative is that for Russia the status quo in the north is OK and any attempt of K-Albanians to repossess their houses in north is against Russian interests.
It astonishes the hypocrisy of the Russian politicians that want to prevent any K-Albanian returnee in north and advocate the separation of Kosova including areas of north Kosova where Albanians are majority.
A pure preparation of the ground for grab as much as you can from Kosova.
Unfortunately all this was made with amen of the UNMIK for 10 years.
Romanian position is on other hand just a warning to Prishtina that not all EU loves them so a bit of responsible and resolute state policy without rising hand and asking for OK about everything wont harm.
(svojgazda, Well Belgrade or Rusia cannot help you building houses in south of Kosovo. Only the goverment in Prishtina can help you and by your statment above you are turning down that offer. Well you are free to do that but don't cry out discrimination when you cannot move to south Kosovo. It is not the albanians fault that you cannot rebuild in Kosovo.
This all stems from the frustrations of the temporary institutions in Kosovo. They have been promised something by the US that can never be delivered and once our ethnic Albanian citizens believed in this lie, the US handed this matter over to the EU.
It is becoming more and more clear that supervised dependence is not working and that independence can never be achieved. It's time our citizens started working towards peace and prosperity in our province and to stop venting their frustrations others.
Serbia did not lie to you. We have offered you more than the US can ever deliver but you continue to believe in this "independence" lie.
When one reads the Romanian press release you would get an impression that this is some kind of regional superpower with great influence over the region. Those of us who understand Romania's place in he region get a little chuckle. Romania has zero, zilch, nada influence over Kosovo. Why then waste your countries bandwidth to release this statement?
US (Amb. Dell) and Germany (through Doris Pack) were on our side yesterday now this county called Romania (EU's ground zero in corruption and pick pocket crime--just read Italian, Spanish and Irish press) is throwing its weight behind serbia.
Meanwhile, if the agreement is not signed until September 22nd, Serbia has to wait 1 more year for visas. Kosova will agree to it ONLY if it's a signatory. EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
Shmulman, Serbs do not want anything to do with Albanians in Pristina government. They do not want to be ruled by non-Serbs on their own land. This has nothing to do with Belgrade or Russia. Kosovo Serbs can make their own mind up, thank you.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Romanian troops are a lot more impartial than US troops and they are there so what's your point?
US troops were not invited by Serbia whose land they currently occupy and they are the ones who need to go. If you don't like it you can follow them home.
Everyone can speak out his/her mind,be it a politician or a private citizen.The bottom line is that Kosovo does NOT want to have ANYTHING to do with Serbia,except to live in peace as neighbours!As for the offer made by Serbia " Less then a Republic ,more then autonomy" , everyone knows how Serbia's appetite was/is for neighbour Countries!That offer was a joke from the beginning and is becoming a fairytale lately.
arta, I have never ever seen you post anythibg positive to do with the Serb side. Can everything be negative to do with Serbs, and everything positive to do with Albanians? A reality check is due, your anger is blinding you - Romania is a part of EULEX and has it's troops in harms way Kosovo, so it certainly has a right to a say on the situation there. Remember, you do not have total independence in Kosovo, you were not given that.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
(adrian, timisoara, romania, 4 September 2009 16:20)
adrian, that's all right!
All other EU members that haven't recognized Kosova have done so, because internal separatists issues and not because they are against it in principle.
Ironically Romania partners with Russia in this issue, while when it comes to Transnistria they are in the opposing camps.
By the way, being from Timisoara earns you a great deal of respect since it was that city that started riots against Causcescu.
Romanian soldiers, as part of NATO troops, and under NATO's command, were members of a NATO unit that helped disperse a crowd of angry protesters intend on doing physical harm to NATO property. Why did Albanians want to damage NATO property? Why did they toss their red paint on buildings? These are acts of vandalism, and who knows what the intent of the Albanian protesters was. Maybe they wanted to kill someone? NATO troops did their job, do not single out Romanians. They are peacekeepers in Kosovo, and the Serbs want them there.
Not only Roumania and Russia are concerned about this black hole, at least all the countries that didn't recon this illegal UDI; furthermore don't forget K-As, from the 62 that backed it you have so many tiny islands that certainly never heard about kosovo until somebody told them, sign here and get your ckeck.... great deal!
Moreover don't forget that the top 10 agreed on a conditional independance backed by 1244, you seam to forget this crucial element.
Get it once for all, you are not the center of the world and after the US got the spot they wanted you became a "let's move further to dupe some more".
Great, you got a flag and now what, soon 2 years after you have only move backwards and have now EULEX telling you what to do, this is how much your "friends" trust your muppet show govnt, another great achievement!
How many golden expats returned, 0.00%?, unemployment 40, 50% do you even know it? unemployment in the youth 60, 70%, multi-etnicity? (any idea what it means)?
Congratulation
This is the reality, time to wake up and work a bit and stop to bother us with your nationalistic arrogant attitude unless you really want to digg further your hole!
Remember we are in the 21st century and the world is changing rapidly and you can't dupe anymore so easily people.
Just an honest messege to both Russia and Romania. Don't get too much "concerned" about Kosova but look after yourselves first. Plenty of internal problems to solve in your respective countries. If you don' know I am happy to list them for you))
But are the English and German forces impartial? These countries recognized the illegal independence? Which is a bad thing as it is against international law and 1244.
EULEX doesn't dare to sign it without our agreement, otherwise they would have signed it.
(aRTA, 4 September 2009 19:22)
You really made me laugh. I literally had to laugh. You really think the UN and the EU (remember that UN is in charge) is afraid of some Kosovo Albanians?
Conduct a reality check, my friend.
Kosovo is ruled by UN and EU. If you do not like that end 1244 by coming up with a mutual agreed deal.
Yes what the hell Romanian troops are doing there? Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force.
(Joe, 4 September 2009 20:24)
Joe, one can tell you were not at the riots back then. I don't know about you, but having chunks of concrete thrown at my head constitutes deadly force to me. There was nothing disproportionate about what the Romanian FPU did. It was unfortunate that those people died - but there is no safe way to participate in a felonious riot.
I know this off topic and all, but I had to point it out.
What can be said that isn't obvious? Albanians acting under the guise of US-led multiethnicity and imposing a benignly fascist system on a group of people who want nothing to do with their role? Disagree with my statement? Reverse the equation to where Serbs are forcing Albanians into something and it may become more clear.
I'm sorry if some people here bristle at statements of Albanians "compressing Serb territory" but it's true. It's bad enough Pristina can't suffer various enclaves and municipalities that don't "respect their authoritah" but to use companies like KEK to act as indirect muscle, making life as difficult as can be is something right out of Milosevic's handbook. In another life, some of these Albanians would have been active members of the SPS and SRS.
Some can also claim that Russia and Romania are saying this for political gains. Fair enough, but so is the US and UK who keep trying to convince the world that Kosovo is a "functioning state".
"By the way, it is a bit old news but in August research showed that 1/3 of the Kosovo youth want to leave Kosovo." (Ron).
-- Not surprising, and I imagined nearly half of Kosovo's population would have used their newly minted passports to buy a one-way ticket out of the region. But then we read about EU states imposing quotas on the number of Albanians that can move around. Give them the illusion of freedom, but halt their mobility. I don't agree with it, but apparently Germany and others are avid adherents to NIMBY laws.
Sorry , Smulan, but you will not see too soon a recognision from Romania. We still have a problem called Transnistria, and until that is not solved we will be very cautious with any kind of recognitions.
"Especially considering that they are not impartial at all and already few years ago they killed a K-Albanian civilian employing disproportional brutale force."
Dear Joe,
What was the object of the riot during which that tragic thing happened (actually 2 albanian civilians)?
Find out the answer to this question and you'll find out the driving force of many things.
Frankly, besides the usual frustrations quite often present in the comments, shouldn't everybody be concerned with what's going on in Kosovo? I mean why is this news and not waves and waves of statements and plans of democratic measures coming from Thaci and the rest?
Romania and Russia should be more concerned about their own citizens,how much they suffer in this crissis and specialy treatment of minorities in this two countries.
My whole city is full of Roma from Romania begging, stealing etc etc and this because they are being discriminated in their country of origin and in order to survive must emigrate to Western countries
May be is the other way arround! The are discrimanated in their countries (where the set up of rigid borders stopped their constant migration) because they are begging, stealing... Now that they are in your city, please give the stupid East Europeans how to integrate the Roma people so they will stop begging and stealing. The lesson will be highly appreciated. Long live the EU!
"40 million Kurds have nothing and the EU and UN are spending so much time on Kosovo."
Oh Yes Ben - remember that USA stopped Kurds, who need their own country. They fought years against dictator, with tens or maybe hunderds of thousands casualties, they supported US Army in Iraq, but finally USA supported Iraq integrity and said "NO" for Kurdistan independence.
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