"EU backs EULEX-MUP agreement"

Victory! Just waiting now for the ungrateful crybabies at Vetevendosje to have another temper tantrum and damage some more cars.

This is a good agreement and hopefuully will result in locking up criminals, regardless of ethnicity.

"The sources also said that the committee's ambassadors from EU member states stressed that the agreement is "a key element in the fight against organized crime, and to the benefit of all people in Kosovo"."

Well, technically no it isn't. It doesn't benefit those clans and groupies involved in extensive organized crime in Kosovo at all, not to mention that it is deeply interwoven with the politics.

Criminals want EULEX out because it is bad for business. Kurti and his gang prefer living in a mafia state
than anything even vaguely resembling a modern european state. Kosovo, back(wards) to the Future!

This comes as no surprise to anyone reading English: http://www.eulex-kosovo.org/

EULEX is now SERBLEX ;-)

Miri and Nik
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I have to say that the protests against EULEX by both the government and especially Vetevendosje are a little hypocritical.

While I'm sure it chafes to have EULEX take decisions "over your head", let's be honest here, the Kosovo government should have seen this coming since the day Albanians failed to take ownership of the negotiations with the Serbs a couple of years back, relying instead on the U.S., Britain, and other EU countries to do the diplomatic work and the thinking for them.

I heard many fellow Albanian posters back then declare that "Kosovo Albanians would pay any price not to be ruled by Belgrade again."

Well, this is the price, so let's take it like men and stop whinning about it.

In the short to medium term, I believe Pristina's only productive course is to discuss their disagreeements with EULEX...quietly.
If that means tolerating Belgrade's "triumphant" rhetoric on occasion, well, so be it.

The Kosovo government can make mild noises on occasion about northern Mitrovica, but for now, it is better off consolidating its grip on the territory it actually owns and improve living conditions there enough so that it becomes an attractive picture to the north as well and a viable alternative to handouts from Belgrade.

It's the work horse not the show horse that's going to win this game in the end.

Aleks - a genuine question - how do you know that Kurti is linked to organised crime? Thaci et al we have all heard about, but is Kurti known to have links?

He strikes me as being a genuine if prone to direct action type campaigner. That's not to say that I support his views but so far I have respected some of what he says. At least he isn't 'owned'.

"Criminals want EULEX out because it is bad for business. Kurti and his gang prefer living in a mafia state
than anything even vaguely resembling a modern european state. Kosovo, back(wards) to the Future!
(Aleks, 1 September 2009 16:44) "

This comment of yours, just shows how poorly informed you are about the situation on the ground in Kosovo, and in particular about Albin Kurti or for what Vetevendosja stands for. Had you spent more time researching Vetevendosje and Kurit instead of trying to paint all kosovan albanians with the same brush, you would realise that while they might be a bit radical in their view and have protested in mild violent ways, they have no links to criminal gangs and do not benefit in anyway from any illegal activity that occurs in Kosovo.

Btw, I do not support fully Kurti's views. (even though he is right about many his arguments)

There is nothing wrong in the agreement of EULEX with Serbian police in itself. Flushing out crime from Kosova, especially in the restless north is of paramount importance for the stability. Due to circumstances, K government would rather have EULEX deal with radicals in this part of their country. The problem so far has been the lack of communication between EULEX and K-government and the sense that EULEX takes decision over such matters in Kosova without full K-Government consent. Belgrade has loudly interpreted the situation in their favor with its classical provocative naivety, and this has only poured gasoline into the fire. “Vetevendosje” are not crybabies. It’s a right-wing organization that simply advocates for the foreigners to leave the country. The point has been made, which is: Even the slightest hint that K-sovereignty could be jeopardized, the people would rise to protect what has been achieved so far. Now you Jason, as a EULEX member, can only imagine the magnitude of rebellion in the case of return under Serbian rule. Personally I disagree with Vetevendosje, however their presence has its own role to play.

EULEX has a pragmatic attitude. It is the face of EU which intends to avoid big troubles at any cost. Just like there was no other alternative to K-Independence the same logic applies here.

Thank you so much for hacking the serbLEX website.

If I were Thaci I would do all in my power to prevent such an agreement.

I agree with Ment, it's time for Prishtina to get some concessions (aid, help with the trade, rule on North) and keep working. The status is already decided, the big powers don't change their mind every 6 months on such matters that mean war. And that's why Serbia is taunting Kosova: if Albanians go nuts Serbia can play victim again like in 2004.

The EU is under a deadline - it needs this agreement in place by Sept. 22 in order to proceed with placing Serbia on the White Schengen list. This means Prishtina has a card to play: they can accept this agreement (which is actually in their best interest) in return for greater EULEX support in the north. That might work. Otherwise, why shouldn't they drag everything out, including dropping visa requirements, until the ICJ rules?

SERBLEX is one step closer to re-establishing law and order in the Serbian province of Kosovo.

Congratulations to the EU on a bold move in the war against terror!

KOSOVARi

And what can he "do" with the "power" that he "has"?

I agree with Ment, it's time for Prishtina to get some concessions (aid, help with the trade, rule on North) and keep working. The status is already decided, the big powers don't change their mind every 6 months on such matters that mean war. And that's why Serbia is taunting Kosova: if Albanians go nuts Serbia can play victim again like in 2004.
(aRTA, 1 September 2009 21:37)

My dear friend,

Status is not set. Remember, the UN has to do that. Not the EU or the USA!

Concessions for Kosovo? Well, you are a UN ruled province? And until there is a mutual agreed solution it will stay that way.

No EU. No UN. And: no UEFA! :)

Amer,

Kosovo should acutally work on reintegrating in Serbia.

I mean: that is what the Americans always say about Ossetia and Abkhazia: they have to reintegrate in Georgia?

Well, why make a special deal for Kosovo?

Check 1244, it is still valid! If you don't like that, try to change it. That is your right! Good luck!
But simply do not act like it is not there.

That is how cowards behave!
Respect the law, mate!

A sober warning for EULEX: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/31/kosovo-supervised-independence.

"It should be clear, by now, that an 'independent protectorate' is no way to engineer a new state."

But will the 'occupying powers' have the intelligence and courage to try anything else?

There is nothing wrong in the agreement of EULEX with Serbian police in itself. Flushing out crime from Kosova, especially in the restless north is of paramount importance for the stability. Due to circumstances, K government would rather have EULEX deal with radicals in this part of their country. The problem so far has been the lack of communication between EULEX and K-government and the sense that EULEX takes decision over such matters in Kosova without full K-Government consent. Belgrade has loudly interpreted the situation in their favor with its classical provocative naivety, and this has only poured gasoline into the fire. “Vetevendosje” are not crybabies. It’s a right-wing organization that simply advocates for the foreigners to leave the country. The point has been made, which is: Even the slightest hint that K-sovereignty could be jeopardized, the people would rise to protect what has been achieved so far. Now you Jason, as a EULEX member, can only imagine the magnitude of rebellion in the case of return under Serbian rule. Personally I disagree with Vetevendosje, however their presence has its own role to play.

EULEX has a pragmatic attitude. It is the face of EU which intends to avoid big troubles at any cost. Just like there was no other alternative to K-Independence the same logic applies here.

Victory! Just waiting now for the ungrateful crybabies at Vetevendosje to have another temper tantrum and damage some more cars.

This is a good agreement and hopefuully will result in locking up criminals, regardless of ethnicity.

A sober warning for EULEX: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/31/kosovo-supervised-independence.

"It should be clear, by now, that an 'independent protectorate' is no way to engineer a new state."

But will the 'occupying powers' have the intelligence and courage to try anything else?

Thank you so much for hacking the serbLEX website.

If I were Thaci I would do all in my power to prevent such an agreement.

I agree with Ment, it's time for Prishtina to get some concessions (aid, help with the trade, rule on North) and keep working. The status is already decided, the big powers don't change their mind every 6 months on such matters that mean war. And that's why Serbia is taunting Kosova: if Albanians go nuts Serbia can play victim again like in 2004.

This comes as no surprise to anyone reading English: http://www.eulex-kosovo.org/

EULEX is now SERBLEX ;-)

"The sources also said that the committee's ambassadors from EU member states stressed that the agreement is "a key element in the fight against organized crime, and to the benefit of all people in Kosovo"."

Well, technically no it isn't. It doesn't benefit those clans and groupies involved in extensive organized crime in Kosovo at all, not to mention that it is deeply interwoven with the politics.

Criminals want EULEX out because it is bad for business. Kurti and his gang prefer living in a mafia state
than anything even vaguely resembling a modern european state. Kosovo, back(wards) to the Future!

"Criminals want EULEX out because it is bad for business. Kurti and his gang prefer living in a mafia state
than anything even vaguely resembling a modern european state. Kosovo, back(wards) to the Future!
(Aleks, 1 September 2009 16:44) "

This comment of yours, just shows how poorly informed you are about the situation on the ground in Kosovo, and in particular about Albin Kurti or for what Vetevendosja stands for. Had you spent more time researching Vetevendosje and Kurit instead of trying to paint all kosovan albanians with the same brush, you would realise that while they might be a bit radical in their view and have protested in mild violent ways, they have no links to criminal gangs and do not benefit in anyway from any illegal activity that occurs in Kosovo.

Btw, I do not support fully Kurti's views. (even though he is right about many his arguments)

Aleks - a genuine question - how do you know that Kurti is linked to organised crime? Thaci et al we have all heard about, but is Kurti known to have links?

He strikes me as being a genuine if prone to direct action type campaigner. That's not to say that I support his views but so far I have respected some of what he says. At least he isn't 'owned'.

Miri and Nik
------------

I have to say that the protests against EULEX by both the government and especially Vetevendosje are a little hypocritical.

While I'm sure it chafes to have EULEX take decisions "over your head", let's be honest here, the Kosovo government should have seen this coming since the day Albanians failed to take ownership of the negotiations with the Serbs a couple of years back, relying instead on the U.S., Britain, and other EU countries to do the diplomatic work and the thinking for them.

I heard many fellow Albanian posters back then declare that "Kosovo Albanians would pay any price not to be ruled by Belgrade again."

Well, this is the price, so let's take it like men and stop whinning about it.

In the short to medium term, I believe Pristina's only productive course is to discuss their disagreeements with EULEX...quietly.
If that means tolerating Belgrade's "triumphant" rhetoric on occasion, well, so be it.

The Kosovo government can make mild noises on occasion about northern Mitrovica, but for now, it is better off consolidating its grip on the territory it actually owns and improve living conditions there enough so that it becomes an attractive picture to the north as well and a viable alternative to handouts from Belgrade.

It's the work horse not the show horse that's going to win this game in the end.

The EU is under a deadline - it needs this agreement in place by Sept. 22 in order to proceed with placing Serbia on the White Schengen list. This means Prishtina has a card to play: they can accept this agreement (which is actually in their best interest) in return for greater EULEX support in the north. That might work. Otherwise, why shouldn't they drag everything out, including dropping visa requirements, until the ICJ rules?

I agree with Ment, it's time for Prishtina to get some concessions (aid, help with the trade, rule on North) and keep working. The status is already decided, the big powers don't change their mind every 6 months on such matters that mean war. And that's why Serbia is taunting Kosova: if Albanians go nuts Serbia can play victim again like in 2004.
(aRTA, 1 September 2009 21:37)

My dear friend,

Status is not set. Remember, the UN has to do that. Not the EU or the USA!

Concessions for Kosovo? Well, you are a UN ruled province? And until there is a mutual agreed solution it will stay that way.

No EU. No UN. And: no UEFA! :)

Amer,

Kosovo should acutally work on reintegrating in Serbia.

I mean: that is what the Americans always say about Ossetia and Abkhazia: they have to reintegrate in Georgia?

Well, why make a special deal for Kosovo?

Check 1244, it is still valid! If you don't like that, try to change it. That is your right! Good luck!
But simply do not act like it is not there.

That is how cowards behave!
Respect the law, mate!

SERBLEX is one step closer to re-establishing law and order in the Serbian province of Kosovo.

Congratulations to the EU on a bold move in the war against terror!

KOSOVARi

And what can he "do" with the "power" that he "has"?