EULEX-MUP protocol in best interest of Serbia

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state

This is a deal between EULEX and Serbia. It doesn't concern the Albanians of Kosovo so I don't know why Alb are getting all exited about.

Well the protocol will not be signed as long as Prishtina dosen't approve it. Your statment just showes the real deal of the protocol and thank you for letting us know what the intentions are. Most EU countrys recognize Kosovo and Eulex is made up from this countrys working under Ahtisaari plan. Stop fighting an lost battle. We allready knowes who controls things in Kosovo and that is not Belgrade.

Demi, you are right. It is not Belgrade and it is not Pristina. Well who controls it then? It's those who control Camp Bondsteel, the same people that were responsible for the war. I believe it is in the interest of both Serbs and Albanians to kick them out of Kosovo and start real negotiations on the future status of Kosovo. Only then can Serbs and Albanians begin to move on and maybe even be good neighbours, as in the old days.

BELGRADE -- Kosovo Minister Goran Bogdanović said that the protocol to be signed between EULEX and Serbia will confirm that the EU has not recognized Kosovo independence.

In case you did not know Mr. Bogdanovic I would like to explain few facts: " EU is not a country but an organization that is made up of 27 countries and this union is called political and economical UNION. Further more, EU is not the United States of Europe.In addition, IMF is an organization where Kosova and Serbia are full fledge members.

the minister in exile bogdanovic is dreaming again but i think is normal for this person he can only dream nothing more!

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

right on aRTA,
The latest news is that Thaqi and Sejdiu told Faith and Yves flat out no and they will report this to Brusels for further instructions. it looks like the protocal is dead on arrival.

Albanians don't seem to realize something. If EU wan't this deal to be signed, it will. K-Albanians are in no position to do anything but show off for the home crowd. Remember who is there for who? This is about the safety of Europe and does anyone really think this deal will be canceld just because K-Albanians have an issue over sovereignity. What about the safety of european cities not to have drugsmuglers, murderers and human traffickers on its territory?

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

right on aRTA,
The latest news is that Thaqi and Sejdiu told Faith and Yves flat out no and they will report this to Brusels for further instructions. it looks like the protocal is dead on arrival.
(Kosova-USA, 27 August 2009 19:14)

What will happen if "Brussels" tells Thaqi and Sejdiu that they should be quiet (I did not want to write shut up)? In the end it is not up to the Albanians in Kosovo to declare anything dead. Let's see if EULEX has the guts to enforce this even when Albanians will start threatening with violence or the usual civil isolation.

Serb politicians can scream in the media as much as they want. Without the approval of the Government of Kosovo, it not going to be signed.

If the Government of Kosovo approves it, that's a different story and it means something substantial in the protocol has been changed.

Serbia needs this protocol to fulfill its obligations towards the Visa liberalization process. Kosovo does not need it at all. "Fighting crime" is just an excuse of Serb politicians.

Serbia is trying everything possible to undermine every positive development in Kosovo. Why on earth should Kosovo reward Serbia by signing this.

"Bogdanović said that “with this document, the EU is confirming Serbia’s integrity..."

Thanks for clarifying that matter to THOSE WHOM DON'D WANT TO SEE/UNDERSTAND/HEAR.

Now you will be able to understand hopefully why Kosova's institution reject any protocal or agreement made in their name. Who ever dares to sign an agreement on Kosova's behalf is taking MASSIVE RISKS and will be shooting themselves right in both feet.
I would suggest Kosova's institutions to take much tougher stance to exert its authority all over the territory of Kosova. No "talks" in trading housebuildng in the territory of Kosova. Everyone should be free to build in Kosova. The government of Kosova should make sure that this right is exercised.

When an authority exercises her will without the consent and respect of the people that wants’ to govern and:

a) that authority is not of same ethnicity of the people that wants’ to govern; or

b) it is of the same ethnicity;

then we have:

under a) INVASION

under b) DICTATORSHIP

EULEX is not of same ehtnicity (so to say) as the majority of Kosovars- but frankly neither I can see them under letter a)

While, we cannot argue that Serbia is without any doubt perceived by overwhelm majority of Kosovars being fully under letter a)

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

Right on arta, but just keep the "then" in front of kosovo, good that you woke up..., time for the other to wake up too!

By the way, who cares about the two "heading" your pseudo govnt, they can issue a wish list, it will always stop at the number 1244!

"Serbia needs this protocol to fulfill its obligations towards the Visa liberalization process."
hmmmm

Not really! The EULEX/Serbia deal is one requirement from the EU for Serbia to be able to sign the visa liberalization. A requirement by the EU that you think Kosovo can stop!!!
It won't be Serbias fault if it doesn't pass so either way Serbia will get the viza liberalization. What are K-Albanians going to do if they bypass Pristina? Throw EULEX out and see a halt to the financing of Kosovo? This is a question about the safety of european citizens and not even mighty powerful Prisnina will be able to stop this.

At the end of the day EU will do whatever they see fit.

Since when does the servant tell their master what to do?
It's always the other way around.

What will happen if "Brussels" tells Thaqi and Sejdiu that they should be quiet (I did not want to write shut up)? In the end it is not up to the Albanians in Kosovo to declare anything dead."

What happens when Tadic gets the news: recognize Kosova or no EU? Kosova Albanians make 90% so it's up to them, EULEX came with arrogance and got smacked down. Now watch Tadic sweat bullets since the visa deal is up in the air

In case you did not know Mr. Bogdanovic I would like to explain few facts: " EU is not a country but an organization that is made up of 27 countries and this union is called political and economical UNION. Further more, EU is not the United States of Europe.In addition, IMF is an organization where Kosova and Serbia are full fledge members.
(Kosova-USA, 27 August 2009 13:48)

So - Kosovo have any chance for joining EU as "independent" state...

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

Can we please get this framed and put on the front page of this website. Coming to a slow realisation is better than never.

Apparently this guy named boganovic can't tell the difference between a country and an organisation.
Mister who ever you are don't expect any signing EULEX-Serbia because Prishtina said NO.
Stop with such ridiculous comments because Albanians are laughing at you, one the other side I'd say keep entertaining us. I've got sense of humor too:)

Well the protocol will not be signed as long as Prishtina dosen't approve it. Your statment just showes the real deal of the protocol and thank you for letting us know what the intentions are. Most EU countrys recognize Kosovo and Eulex is made up from this countrys working under Ahtisaari plan. Stop fighting an lost battle. We allready knowes who controls things in Kosovo and that is not Belgrade.

BELGRADE -- Kosovo Minister Goran Bogdanović said that the protocol to be signed between EULEX and Serbia will confirm that the EU has not recognized Kosovo independence.

In case you did not know Mr. Bogdanovic I would like to explain few facts: " EU is not a country but an organization that is made up of 27 countries and this union is called political and economical UNION. Further more, EU is not the United States of Europe.In addition, IMF is an organization where Kosova and Serbia are full fledge members.

the minister in exile bogdanovic is dreaming again but i think is normal for this person he can only dream nothing more!

This is a deal between EULEX and Serbia. It doesn't concern the Albanians of Kosovo so I don't know why Alb are getting all exited about.

Demi, you are right. It is not Belgrade and it is not Pristina. Well who controls it then? It's those who control Camp Bondsteel, the same people that were responsible for the war. I believe it is in the interest of both Serbs and Albanians to kick them out of Kosovo and start real negotiations on the future status of Kosovo. Only then can Serbs and Albanians begin to move on and maybe even be good neighbours, as in the old days.

Serb politicians can scream in the media as much as they want. Without the approval of the Government of Kosovo, it not going to be signed.

If the Government of Kosovo approves it, that's a different story and it means something substantial in the protocol has been changed.

Serbia needs this protocol to fulfill its obligations towards the Visa liberalization process. Kosovo does not need it at all. "Fighting crime" is just an excuse of Serb politicians.

Serbia is trying everything possible to undermine every positive development in Kosovo. Why on earth should Kosovo reward Serbia by signing this.

Albanians don't seem to realize something. If EU wan't this deal to be signed, it will. K-Albanians are in no position to do anything but show off for the home crowd. Remember who is there for who? This is about the safety of Europe and does anyone really think this deal will be canceld just because K-Albanians have an issue over sovereignity. What about the safety of european cities not to have drugsmuglers, murderers and human traffickers on its territory?

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

right on aRTA,
The latest news is that Thaqi and Sejdiu told Faith and Yves flat out no and they will report this to Brusels for further instructions. it looks like the protocal is dead on arrival.
(Kosova-USA, 27 August 2009 19:14)

What will happen if "Brussels" tells Thaqi and Sejdiu that they should be quiet (I did not want to write shut up)? In the end it is not up to the Albanians in Kosovo to declare anything dead. Let's see if EULEX has the guts to enforce this even when Albanians will start threatening with violence or the usual civil isolation.

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state

Like the "6 points," I remember Tadic bragging about it.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

right on aRTA,
The latest news is that Thaqi and Sejdiu told Faith and Yves flat out no and they will report this to Brusels for further instructions. it looks like the protocal is dead on arrival.

"Bogdanović said that “with this document, the EU is confirming Serbia’s integrity..."

Thanks for clarifying that matter to THOSE WHOM DON'D WANT TO SEE/UNDERSTAND/HEAR.

Now you will be able to understand hopefully why Kosova's institution reject any protocal or agreement made in their name. Who ever dares to sign an agreement on Kosova's behalf is taking MASSIVE RISKS and will be shooting themselves right in both feet.
I would suggest Kosova's institutions to take much tougher stance to exert its authority all over the territory of Kosova. No "talks" in trading housebuildng in the territory of Kosova. Everyone should be free to build in Kosova. The government of Kosova should make sure that this right is exercised.

When an authority exercises her will without the consent and respect of the people that wants’ to govern and:

a) that authority is not of same ethnicity of the people that wants’ to govern; or

b) it is of the same ethnicity;

then we have:

under a) INVASION

under b) DICTATORSHIP

EULEX is not of same ehtnicity (so to say) as the majority of Kosovars- but frankly neither I can see them under letter a)

While, we cannot argue that Serbia is without any doubt perceived by overwhelm majority of Kosovars being fully under letter a)

"Serbia needs this protocol to fulfill its obligations towards the Visa liberalization process."
hmmmm

Not really! The EULEX/Serbia deal is one requirement from the EU for Serbia to be able to sign the visa liberalization. A requirement by the EU that you think Kosovo can stop!!!
It won't be Serbias fault if it doesn't pass so either way Serbia will get the viza liberalization. What are K-Albanians going to do if they bypass Pristina? Throw EULEX out and see a halt to the financing of Kosovo? This is a question about the safety of european citizens and not even mighty powerful Prisnina will be able to stop this.

What will happen if "Brussels" tells Thaqi and Sejdiu that they should be quiet (I did not want to write shut up)? In the end it is not up to the Albanians in Kosovo to declare anything dead."

What happens when Tadic gets the news: recognize Kosova or no EU? Kosova Albanians make 90% so it's up to them, EULEX came with arrogance and got smacked down. Now watch Tadic sweat bullets since the visa deal is up in the air

At the end of the day EU will do whatever they see fit.

Since when does the servant tell their master what to do?
It's always the other way around.

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

Right on arta, but just keep the "then" in front of kosovo, good that you woke up..., time for the other to wake up too!

By the way, who cares about the two "heading" your pseudo govnt, they can issue a wish list, it will always stop at the number 1244!

But I agree: If EULEX signs and implements this against K-Gov will, then Kosova is not a state
(aRTA, 27 August 2009 15:36)

Can we please get this framed and put on the front page of this website. Coming to a slow realisation is better than never.

Apparently this guy named boganovic can't tell the difference between a country and an organisation.
Mister who ever you are don't expect any signing EULEX-Serbia because Prishtina said NO.
Stop with such ridiculous comments because Albanians are laughing at you, one the other side I'd say keep entertaining us. I've got sense of humor too:)

In case you did not know Mr. Bogdanovic I would like to explain few facts: " EU is not a country but an organization that is made up of 27 countries and this union is called political and economical UNION. Further more, EU is not the United States of Europe.In addition, IMF is an organization where Kosova and Serbia are full fledge members.
(Kosova-USA, 27 August 2009 13:48)

So - Kosovo have any chance for joining EU as "independent" state...