Thaci meets with Feith and Kermabon

Question: if Kosovo is really an independent country why people like Feith and De Kermabon make deceisions for Kosovo region?

I mean, I am from Holland and if Holland has a deal with neighbour Germany it is the Dutch government who sigsn and not the UN or EU.

We all know that Kosovo is just a Serbian province.

Check 1244. And yes, it is still valid!

And again: if Kosovo is such a great place why a lot of Kosovars are trying to live in the EU illegally!

Much more actions is needed to send them back by the way!

Smulan,

It is the double standards of the West that do make me feel sick.

Why Kosovo and not Kurdistan?

And really, 1244 is still valid as it was never revoked. Check the facts my friend!

And Spain is part of the West, it does not recognize illegal Kosovo indepedence however.

I am so glad I am from a real state and not an illegal pseudo-statelet!

Birds of a feather flock together. Those who think the same keep company or perhaps I should say keep "the company".

Sigh. I guess this is EULEX protocol. Talk to the puppets to make them feel like they actually have a say in Kosovo's matters. Give them a false sense of hope they're actually relevant. Though I think talking about northern Kosovo got them a little too giddy. Oh well, everyone has dreams...

It is the double standards of the West that do make me feel sick.

Why Kosovo and not Kurdistan?

And really, 1244 is still valid as it was never revoked. Check the facts my friend!

And Spain is part of the West, it does not recognize illegal Kosovo indepedence however.

I am so glad I am from a real state and not an illegal pseudo-statelet!
(Ron, 25 August 2009 19:48)

Great Ron!! In Europe is more peoples who thinking similar. In some countries this is majority (like Poland where are two different points of view - prime minister recognized, but president refused recognition and supported Serbia integrity). But governments don't asking citizens about recognitions. This is politics. If governments will changed - some of them can revoke this illegal recognition.

Arti, I'm somewhat curious where you and other Albanians get this supposition that EULEX can't do anything without Pristina. They seem to have been doing a lot without Pristina of late and I'm wondering if you can come up with any information whereby Pristina either overruled something done by EULEX or made EULEX seek their approval.

1. 6 point plan? You can say it's meaningless but can you also say Pristina has any authority north of the Ibar? and let's not talk about authority you would like to have, or authority you claim the US grants you. Let's talk about honest to God authority.

2. Administrative border control? I seem to have read that not only was Pristina not included in this agreement with Belgrade, but Hash and the Gang voiced their strong oppostion against being snubbed.

3. Serb-held elections? Again, Pristina can call foul all it wants, but is EULEX really doing anything to stop them?

4. Tadic's visit to Decani this past Easter? Sure, he sought access through EULEX, but I doubt that if Hash rejected his entry, he would be denied. In fact, I seem to recall Pristina was really pressured to agree on this for PR purposes.

Now maybe I am wrong and maybe Pristina's input has been sought in all of these. But if that is the case, then Pristina is actively seeking to limit the reaches of its own sovereignty and then turns around and lies to its own people about being sidelined. So if they're overruled, they're irrelevant. If they are included, they're incompetent.

Again, aside from the boasts of Albanians on this site, I see very little evidence to prove that EULEX cannot to anything without Pristina's approval.

Well done to Mr Thaci, don't let EULEX sign enything without Kosovas permision.

Ron,
No, you choose to think that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbian officials themselves admit that Kosovo is out Belgrade's control, jurisdiction.
You call for the return of Kosovar illegals, here you might have a point, but don't forget Europe needs cheap labor and these guys will be back legally in Western Europe in not too distant a future.

Ron, your country Holland recognize Kosovo as an independent state. You as a citizen of that country has to respect the decision of your goverment.

Forget about res 1244 because it has no power. Kosovo dosent have to be an UN member to be an independent country. The important thing is that Serbia dosen't control things in Kosovo wich Serbia admits that it dosen't. The reality on the ground sayes somthing else. There is an albanian president, primeminister, goverment and police.

Chances are bigger for Austria to become an german territory than Kosovo being a serbian territory.

The western world wich you are part of recognize Kosovo as a state so please respect that. 1244 is just a number and not reality.

Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Hajredin Kuqi reminded on Monday that “the Kosovo institutions will not compromise on anything that would endanger the country’s sovereignty”.

Stop dreaming, you are on the wish list and your number is 1244!
So hang on in the line, be quiete and if one day you really behave and learn what human rights, democracy, multi-ethnic society, then we'll consider what to do!

poster#1,

You are still the lone ranger on mentioning 1244. I wonder if is going to take you as long to forget that 1244, which hapens to be on trash bin.
If 1244 was still valid, that means UNMIK SRSG will be calling the shots at what ever goes on in Kosova. I have not seen any SRSG on public TV for a long time. I even forgat how he looks like.

Mike,

UNMIK and EULEX are ruling Kosovo. Not the provincial government. And they know it. But they do not dare to admit it.

A sad thing!

1244 is still valid! Never forget!!

To Ron

UNMIK and EULEX are ruling Kosovo. Not the provincial government. And they know it. But they do not dare to admit it.

A sad thing!

1244 is still valid! Never forget!!
(Ron, 26 August 2009 06:54)

Pls don't forget never who has moved Milosevic Army from Kosovo Land "1244" and will same "1244" which will never let in again any Serbian Army in Kosovo land. This historical act also will be written in new Serbian History when the teachers will tell young serbian "Was one time but it isn't more because of "1244"

Sigh. I guess this is EULEX protocol. Talk to the puppets to make them feel like they actually have a say in Kosovo's matters. Give them a false sense of hope they're actually relevant. Though I think talking about northern Kosovo got them a little too giddy. Oh well, everyone has dreams...
(Mike, 25 August 2009 18:20)

to much trouble for Serbia to be called pupets Mike don't you think so?
or maybe what you mean is that Serbia is too weak to deal with anybody nowdays.
this protocol is a dead plan anyway like the six point,I would have thought that the internationals have learned by now that they cannot deal on Kosovo's behalf anymore but I gues not,I'm sure they will after a couple rejections.

(Mike, 26 August 2009 00:54)

Eulex have observer role over Kosovo it's been said the time they set foot there and somewhat a save face for Serbia to indirectly comunicate with Kosovo and that's a fact.
never said that Kosovo has full control over north Mitrovica,it will but not at this time,and USA majority of EU has helped out to achive our dream to live free,it's making sure nobody dares to stop it nor your russian budies,if the word authority doesn't fit in your gramar I'll let you pick one.
1 Admnistrative border control draft it's another carrot for Serbia to accept the checkpoints,borders, like the 6 point was behind closed doors to accept the end of the UN mandate in Kosovo like it or not.
2 Elections,please...weren't they held in a caffe or what? I'm curious to know who got elected because didn't know the old ones either.
3 Tadic's visit doesn't take any country's soverenity,if you think so have you ever asked yourself why he needed the Kosovo government's (or like you like to call them "thugs" ) permision?
4 You're right when it comes to getting sidelined,it takes time to get Serbia to accept the new reality in the Kosovo case,even if it means having third party contacts for the time being, sometime u got to close an eye to make happy the counterpart,it's politics,like a chess game if you know what I'm talking about.
and last what makes you believe that EULEX can do anything without the consent of people?
if so why would the recognize it as a state?
as far as the evidence thing I only write what I see is happening and I express my opinion in the matter,I'm sure that no evidence in the world would make you change your views in the Kosovo matter,you had it in video about 2 weeks ago MUP bribing people and still wasn't enought,figure it out me bringing evidence on writing here,right.

Well done to Mr Thaci, don't let EULEX sign enything without Kosovas permision.

Question: if Kosovo is really an independent country why people like Feith and De Kermabon make deceisions for Kosovo region?

I mean, I am from Holland and if Holland has a deal with neighbour Germany it is the Dutch government who sigsn and not the UN or EU.

We all know that Kosovo is just a Serbian province.

Check 1244. And yes, it is still valid!

And again: if Kosovo is such a great place why a lot of Kosovars are trying to live in the EU illegally!

Much more actions is needed to send them back by the way!

poster#1,

You are still the lone ranger on mentioning 1244. I wonder if is going to take you as long to forget that 1244, which hapens to be on trash bin.
If 1244 was still valid, that means UNMIK SRSG will be calling the shots at what ever goes on in Kosova. I have not seen any SRSG on public TV for a long time. I even forgat how he looks like.

Ron,
No, you choose to think that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbian officials themselves admit that Kosovo is out Belgrade's control, jurisdiction.
You call for the return of Kosovar illegals, here you might have a point, but don't forget Europe needs cheap labor and these guys will be back legally in Western Europe in not too distant a future.

Ron, your country Holland recognize Kosovo as an independent state. You as a citizen of that country has to respect the decision of your goverment.

Forget about res 1244 because it has no power. Kosovo dosent have to be an UN member to be an independent country. The important thing is that Serbia dosen't control things in Kosovo wich Serbia admits that it dosen't. The reality on the ground sayes somthing else. There is an albanian president, primeminister, goverment and police.

Chances are bigger for Austria to become an german territory than Kosovo being a serbian territory.

The western world wich you are part of recognize Kosovo as a state so please respect that. 1244 is just a number and not reality.

Sigh. I guess this is EULEX protocol. Talk to the puppets to make them feel like they actually have a say in Kosovo's matters. Give them a false sense of hope they're actually relevant. Though I think talking about northern Kosovo got them a little too giddy. Oh well, everyone has dreams...
(Mike, 25 August 2009 18:20)

to much trouble for Serbia to be called pupets Mike don't you think so?
or maybe what you mean is that Serbia is too weak to deal with anybody nowdays.
this protocol is a dead plan anyway like the six point,I would have thought that the internationals have learned by now that they cannot deal on Kosovo's behalf anymore but I gues not,I'm sure they will after a couple rejections.

Smulan,

It is the double standards of the West that do make me feel sick.

Why Kosovo and not Kurdistan?

And really, 1244 is still valid as it was never revoked. Check the facts my friend!

And Spain is part of the West, it does not recognize illegal Kosovo indepedence however.

I am so glad I am from a real state and not an illegal pseudo-statelet!

Birds of a feather flock together. Those who think the same keep company or perhaps I should say keep "the company".

Sigh. I guess this is EULEX protocol. Talk to the puppets to make them feel like they actually have a say in Kosovo's matters. Give them a false sense of hope they're actually relevant. Though I think talking about northern Kosovo got them a little too giddy. Oh well, everyone has dreams...

(Mike, 26 August 2009 00:54)

Eulex have observer role over Kosovo it's been said the time they set foot there and somewhat a save face for Serbia to indirectly comunicate with Kosovo and that's a fact.
never said that Kosovo has full control over north Mitrovica,it will but not at this time,and USA majority of EU has helped out to achive our dream to live free,it's making sure nobody dares to stop it nor your russian budies,if the word authority doesn't fit in your gramar I'll let you pick one.
1 Admnistrative border control draft it's another carrot for Serbia to accept the checkpoints,borders, like the 6 point was behind closed doors to accept the end of the UN mandate in Kosovo like it or not.
2 Elections,please...weren't they held in a caffe or what? I'm curious to know who got elected because didn't know the old ones either.
3 Tadic's visit doesn't take any country's soverenity,if you think so have you ever asked yourself why he needed the Kosovo government's (or like you like to call them "thugs" ) permision?
4 You're right when it comes to getting sidelined,it takes time to get Serbia to accept the new reality in the Kosovo case,even if it means having third party contacts for the time being, sometime u got to close an eye to make happy the counterpart,it's politics,like a chess game if you know what I'm talking about.
and last what makes you believe that EULEX can do anything without the consent of people?
if so why would the recognize it as a state?
as far as the evidence thing I only write what I see is happening and I express my opinion in the matter,I'm sure that no evidence in the world would make you change your views in the Kosovo matter,you had it in video about 2 weeks ago MUP bribing people and still wasn't enought,figure it out me bringing evidence on writing here,right.

To Ron

UNMIK and EULEX are ruling Kosovo. Not the provincial government. And they know it. But they do not dare to admit it.

A sad thing!

1244 is still valid! Never forget!!
(Ron, 26 August 2009 06:54)

Pls don't forget never who has moved Milosevic Army from Kosovo Land "1244" and will same "1244" which will never let in again any Serbian Army in Kosovo land. This historical act also will be written in new Serbian History when the teachers will tell young serbian "Was one time but it isn't more because of "1244"

It is the double standards of the West that do make me feel sick.

Why Kosovo and not Kurdistan?

And really, 1244 is still valid as it was never revoked. Check the facts my friend!

And Spain is part of the West, it does not recognize illegal Kosovo indepedence however.

I am so glad I am from a real state and not an illegal pseudo-statelet!
(Ron, 25 August 2009 19:48)

Great Ron!! In Europe is more peoples who thinking similar. In some countries this is majority (like Poland where are two different points of view - prime minister recognized, but president refused recognition and supported Serbia integrity). But governments don't asking citizens about recognitions. This is politics. If governments will changed - some of them can revoke this illegal recognition.

Arti, I'm somewhat curious where you and other Albanians get this supposition that EULEX can't do anything without Pristina. They seem to have been doing a lot without Pristina of late and I'm wondering if you can come up with any information whereby Pristina either overruled something done by EULEX or made EULEX seek their approval.

1. 6 point plan? You can say it's meaningless but can you also say Pristina has any authority north of the Ibar? and let's not talk about authority you would like to have, or authority you claim the US grants you. Let's talk about honest to God authority.

2. Administrative border control? I seem to have read that not only was Pristina not included in this agreement with Belgrade, but Hash and the Gang voiced their strong oppostion against being snubbed.

3. Serb-held elections? Again, Pristina can call foul all it wants, but is EULEX really doing anything to stop them?

4. Tadic's visit to Decani this past Easter? Sure, he sought access through EULEX, but I doubt that if Hash rejected his entry, he would be denied. In fact, I seem to recall Pristina was really pressured to agree on this for PR purposes.

Now maybe I am wrong and maybe Pristina's input has been sought in all of these. But if that is the case, then Pristina is actively seeking to limit the reaches of its own sovereignty and then turns around and lies to its own people about being sidelined. So if they're overruled, they're irrelevant. If they are included, they're incompetent.

Again, aside from the boasts of Albanians on this site, I see very little evidence to prove that EULEX cannot to anything without Pristina's approval.

Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Hajredin Kuqi reminded on Monday that “the Kosovo institutions will not compromise on anything that would endanger the country’s sovereignty”.

Stop dreaming, you are on the wish list and your number is 1244!
So hang on in the line, be quiete and if one day you really behave and learn what human rights, democracy, multi-ethnic society, then we'll consider what to do!

Mike,

UNMIK and EULEX are ruling Kosovo. Not the provincial government. And they know it. But they do not dare to admit it.

A sad thing!

1244 is still valid! Never forget!!