"Kosovo independence irreversible"

Who cares what you and your country's policy is?

"Kosovo independence irreversible"

140 countries says it's not. And, as a "democracy", Americans should know that majority rules.

Firstly, if KosovO was independent, then you would feel the need to constantly express that independence is irreversible. The fact that america is constantly saying this, proves that Kosovo is still SERBIAN and that ripping away our province wont be easy!! Well hey, Kosovo was in the Miss Universe contest so it must be independent, right? hahaha what a joke, how much did the snake pay to have that contestent in the competition. Miss Serbia btw was STUNNING!!

KOSOVO JE SRBIJA!

Maybe Serbia must recognize Republic of Lakotah?? What will be US reaction for this recognition??

"Newly-appointed U.S. Ambassador in Priština Christopher Dell says his country's policy towards Kosovo "remains unchanged".

And they will remain unchanged as long as the Yanks have their military bas there. Then it will be as unchanged as the support for Saddam Hussein, first friend then foe.

Yawn....

And Kosovo's independence is irreversibly blocked. The US cannot deliver anything more than Serbia is offering except Serbia can offer status finalisation and a chance for prosperity.

Greetings from Bratislava, Slovakia.

"The project implies continuation of setting up institutions of the Kosovo government and society, ensuring that Kosovo will become a home for its citizens regardless of their nationality, and their unification in the foundation process of the youngest European democratic state, as well as continuation with the development of economy, so that all citizens can benefit from it."

-- There's a major difference between seeing a Big Mac advertised on TV looking all big and delicious and then actually getting one at the local McDonalds and wondering why someone apparently left it under the heat lamps to wilt all afternoon.

Hahahahahahaha, "Kosovo will be a multi-ethnic society" - yes, maybe in it's zoo. But certainly not in its citizenry. US and Albanian leaders keep repeating this tired, old tune yet, they both know this will never be reality. This is just more diplomatic jibberish that goes with Dell's position - but good for a laugh.

Trying to discredit a Miss UNiverse pageant contestant of all things is weak pal. Leave Ms Kosovo and Ms Serbia out of politics they are both beautiful young women trying to build successful careers. Get over it, Kosovo belongs to its over 90% homogenous population.

"First, the independence of the Republic of Kosovo is irrevocable, and U.S. support to Kosovo's independence is unequivocal. Second, we are still dedicated to our joint project of establishing a democratic, multiethnic, tolerant and successful state that is law abiding, and will become a rightful member of the transatlantic and European family," said he.


Wishful thinking, this is the Balkans, not politically correct America or western Europe.

If it weren't for our strategic interests (Camp Bondsteel being one) in KosovO my country wouldn't care one bit about this narco pseudo state or the supposed "plight" of the ethnic Albanians. KosovO will never be a REAL state, it will always be a proxy for western interests, plain and simple.

This country will never be able to stand on it's own. It's already a failed state, but the West is too proud and too ignorant to admit it. The only way KosovO will have any success is if it becomes part of Serbia again.

well said Christopher Dell thank you for telling the truth

Who is this guy?

Why would you support unilateral declarations of independance from Kosovo? You have the largest military base there-- and yup, that's it I guess.

This is ridiculous. The US is meddling in too many pots while its domestic policies are going down the toilet.

Ambassadorship to Kosovo is dead end job at the US State dept.

I love the catch words...democratic, multi-ethnic. Come on America, I have lived in your country all my life. Lets stop with the jargon and just say all we care about is business, business, and more business.

"Kosovo's independence is irreversible".I think this total nonsense cliche text is taught at every introduction to american diplomacy 101 course during first lessons.At least this appointed diplomats keep repeating it as some nervous-wreck parrot which has undergone heavy brainwashing accompanied by some electroshock therapy.However it is also worth taking a 101 introduction to history of central and south-east europe to see that nothing is irreversible in this region.Needless to say not at George Soros funded Central Europen University where it is taught from heavily manipulated books written by such "talents" as Stipe Mesic or Adam LeBor

hes says that to make the albanians feel better lol but 90% of the world say no independence and that includes the biggest countries in the world

Well its irreversible at the "moment" for the U.S. But of course policies change... i mean Serbia was once an important ally of the U.S. when we fought against the Nazis in WW2.

Yes we should recognize every native american indian nation on their own soil, these "palestinians" of north america have been tortured murdered and land-grabbed for long enough now.

I´m sure the lakothas would welcome a Russian "camp bondsteel" to protect their interests..

LMN II,

How is it possible that after Iraq Americans let there government get away with yet another breach of international law?

While claiming that South Ossetia should remain part of Georgia?

I mean: do American politicians THEMSELVES believe what they say?

Kosovo independence is illegal! It is time everyone admits that!

Triumf,

But is that also the case for Northern Kosovo and Kurdistan?

Zoran,

Thanks to Slovakia for saving international law! It is a shame what the West is doing!

When I think that there are still naive people who believe in made in USA foreign policy..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090824/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cia_interrogations

Good luck to the dreamers!

"First, the independence of the Republic of Kosovo is irrevocable, and U.S. support to Kosovo's independence is unequivocal. Second, we are still dedicated to our joint project of establishing a democratic, multiethnic, tolerant and successful state that is law abiding, and will become a rightful member of the transatlantic and European family," said he.

First = failure
Second = failure
Third = give us a break and change the CD

It's nice to see Yugoslavia finally come to and end. Kosovo deserves it's independence.

So tell me Your Excellency – when the Mexicans and other Hispanics reach a majority of the population in say; California or New Mexico and decide to cede from the Union because they perceive the rest of you to be racists and bigots will it be okay for the rest of us to recognise their independence? As usual double standards – don’t do as I do – do as I say.

Sadly Mr. Dell, to the detriment of you and your pathetic accomplices - quite the opposite will be case.

Out of touch.....where is the reality.....what optimism...when...for whom...

It's nice to see Yugoslavia finally come to and end. Kosovo deserves it's independence.
(Ian, UK, 24 August 2009 23:36)

What did you have against Yugoslavia?
I thought that you only became aware of Kosovo after that Albanians refugee family lived with you for a while.

The US cannot deliver anything more than Serbia is offering except Serbia can offer status finalisation and a chance for prosperity.

Greetings from Bratislava, Slovakia.
(Zoran, 24 August 2009 20:36)

Are you kidding man?,,,Do you really REALLY thing that Kosovars will accept anything from Serbia? I tell you what, we'd rather stay like we are now, than have any what-so-ever ties with Serbia. As I can see, you are writing from Slovakia, so I don't really blame you for having such opinions

Hey guys this guy is an American diplomat. So you guys know when America says something it has to be that way.
Remember when Joe Biden came to Belgrade, whole Belgrade was blocked.
For us Albanians, is much more better Americans accepting Kosovo as independent country than other 140 countries as some one here says. Also you know guys, what Americans say "My Way or Highway".
I am not going to say anything, about other powerfull countries who recognized Kosovo.

A few responses:
To
#1--Most of the world, and definitely you since you were the first to comment.
#2--Using your argument then those who feel the need to constantly say "Kosovo is Serbia" does so because in reality they know it is not.
#3--140 have not a handful have and the rest have either voiced no opinion or in no hurry to.
#4 Reaction-probably a smirk in public, rolling in the floor in the backroom.
To the numerous "Bondsteel" post-you figured it out, the whole strategy from the start was to build a base without a landing strip to house 1400 primarily National Guards to control all of Southeast Europe.
# 12, I doubt you will find one that would welcome a Russian base, they are not stupid people.
Bottom line--US supports a free and democratic Kosovo.

Dear Mr. Dell,

I refer to your statements yesterday regarding Kosovo's irreversible independence status.

As I am sure you are aware, Kosovo is not an independent nation under international law and hence remains part of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Serbia.

I assure you that while your comments are partially true, you have confused Kosovo independence being irreversible with international law being irreversible.

I appreciate the fact that you must justify to stakeholders your completely fabricated job title however I feel obliged to notify you that entire world can see through your blatant lies.

Yours faithfully,
Daveo Dinkum.

"Dell's new diplomatic mission in Kosovo is his second in the last ten years, as he was already the head of the U.S. Liaison Office in Priština from 2000 until 2001.
During his career, Dell was his country's deputy mission chief in Afghanistan, ambassador in Zimbabwe and Angola, and deputy ambassador in Bulgaria."

This person is obviously one of the State Department's military-economic hitmen sent into target nations to try to overthrow the government (if it is independent) or to support it (if it is a U.S. colony). The fact that he was one of the first deployed to Kosovo in 2000 is an indication that he goes to crisis regions as a key imperialist player.

In Zimbabwe, he was seen as having failed to bring down Mugabe despite years of running dirty tricks and financing the U.S. trained "opposition". In Afghanistan, he failed miserably to eliminate the Taliban despite having unlimited military and cash resources. Now he is trying to shore up the sinking U.S. colony of Bondsteelia (Kosova/o). He should have equal success there and he can finally be retired after three major strike-outs in the foreign service.

Here in Serbia, the bigger they come, the harder they fall.

Amen.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

Let's wait for the ICJ ruling. It'll be interesting to hear what the US has to say when it rules ni Serbia's favour.

As for the poster who said "what the US wants, it gets", I refer you to Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The US demanded that they belong to Georgia, last I heard they are still under the control of Russia.

Roberto,

"Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy"

I believe that Kosovo is lacking the, er, 'raw materials' to fulfil this aspiration.

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think the way Serbia treated 2 millions of her own citizens of Kosovo in the nineties was legal and acccepatable by international standards of human rights?
(Joe, 25 August 2009 18:00)

Joe,

Let us take the following example.Someone sees that the window of your Transdanubian cottage or Long Island mansion is open.The one enters your property with his family through this window(BTW the literal example is not rare in today's Hungary in certain parts of Szabolcs,BAZ or Somogy counties ).You are good-hearted let those poor people stay there ,but they gradully become more agressive misbehave,disturb your family members poison your golden fish torture your cat and demand more rooms while making your life more unbearable.Are you a Balek(lame duck) and bow in front of their will or forget about their "human rights" and turn hard?

"Many of you are living in a time warp, as Kosovo/a, however you spell it, has been independent for over one year. no one in their right mind believes that kosovo/a will "return" to serbia, now or ever."

>Roberto, who is living in a time-warp actually? =)

"of course Serbia could attack Kosovo/a in the future, esp.ly if nato leaves, but i think it would be a suicide mission. no one, certainly no albanian i have ever met or read of (which is many)would ever accept such a possibility. it is one precept that every one of them is united on, while there may be wide disagreement on many other specifics, which is perfectly normal."

>I do not think that would be a "suicide mission" at all - but you as an Alb.. uhmmm.. sorry, as an Hungarian of course, do desperately cling to this weird whishful thinking among teenie-k-albanians.

well, you may dream as long as you wish...

by the way, I think that there are more reasonable Albanians in southern Serbia, who know very well, what would happen if they were to face Serbia without any foreign help...

but, and I am convinced of that, those amongst the K-albanians who are reasonable, will prevail.

there will not be one single bullet shot, it will happen peacefully.

it´s just a question of time.

"do strongly agree with ambassador dell here(don't know much about him): Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy, due process, rule of law, improving the economy, etc.

of course it is going slowly, for a variety of reasons, some to do with post-communism, many to do with the 90s, and the global "recession." "

>uhum, yeah.

"the US will not abandon kosovo/a"

>just like they did not abandon the government of Mohammad Mossadegh, and afterwards like they did not abandon Mohammad Shah Reza Pahlevi ...

or like they did not abandon the Iraqi Kurds in the late 1980´s...

Roberto, you shouldn´t write down your optimistic dreams
here, since the probability that you are right is rather small.

"..., and hopes to see the progress of all countries in the region, in a peaceful manner. "

>Serbia is already progressing: they will be traveling across Europe, while the "Bosnians" and Albanians will still dream of that.

do you know what? I think your comments are really enlighting.

thanks for the entertainment.

So the K-albanians dont want UNMIK and now EULEX. Look we have to be there you Albanians are unstable and cause too much trouble, now get into line and do as you are told.

Ian (UK) i am puzzled why are you so happy at the break up of Yugoslavia?

Maybe you should be better informed about what you say in relation to international politics, especially for Africa.
(massimo, 25 August 2009 16:45)

Before giving lessons to others please be better informed what african people think.Yes most of them consider Mugabe a monster but at least one of their own while Tsvangirai is considered also a devil with the difference that he is the one who serves only outside interests.Being critical of those who want to remove Mugabe with dirty tricks does not mean automatically that you are his supporter.If someone for example is critical of Israel it does not mean that the one is automaticly a neo-nazi.Anyway more blood is stuck to hands of african dictators supported by "west" during the last century than anywhere else.But somehow the politically correct european media keeps silent about those sins.

Joe, your question is too simple for your credibility's sake :)
in war on terrorism like in war on terrorism, joe? no need to pull cheap antiserb tricks on me pls :)
we treated our rebel citizens with stupid patience and reluctance and for that reason we have the frozen complication in our southern territory today.
And let me remind you that history of kosovo doesnt start in 90s, strange at is may sound to some :) lets not even go very far. In 1974 dictator broz gave albanians republic within republic but that wasnt enough for them. in 1980/81 they had bloody protests wanting 'republic'. All the while serbs were intimidated, raped, albanians poisoned thier livestock pressuring them to move out so that albanians can be majority.
http://www.kunstradio.at/WAR/binder-nytimes.html
What do you think joe, honestly, why milosevic told serbs in kosovo in 1989 nobody will beat you? this is not a rhetorical question. 1989 who was harrassing serbs so much that milosevic exploited it promising protection, finally?
Then we had classic terrorism from albanians in 90s. Milosevic has his blame becuase after dayton he was darling of the west and probably had a deal not to root out terrorist kla there and then when they reared their ugly head in 1996.
All things considered we treated terrorists too well. civilians unfortunately were victims of terrorists, nato and sometimes renegades from our ranks. Once nato attacked that was war and bad things were done by all sides. also out army and police especially along border with albania fought heroic battles. nato is to blame becuase they started the war. check the dates and see if any crimes except terrorist kla attacks on serb and albanian civilians and cops or if movement of population in kosovo happened before 24 march 1999 when nato attacked.
But of course you know all that. what you do is sorry gloating, empty stuff. why do you need it in your life? let go of dead empires and useless grudges. if i dreamed about our empire that's also gone like yours i'd be furstrated at our good friends the greek for holding thessaloniki nowadays :) but ok, you think you have something to gloat over. and i'm telling you we fight tooth and nail for kosovo and we will continue. russians sustain us in life and we fight our good fight. kosovo's frozen now. we'll see how it goes.

but all in all i'm not really addressing you :) i'm just writing in case some open minded person who doesnt know the truth reads.

Dear fellow contributors,

Sorry to have provoked such an extended discussion about my journalistic career.

I spent almost two decades in Japan working in the media, including time spent at the Yomiuri Shimbun (then the world's largest paper by circulation), The Nikkei (Japan's equivalent of the Wall Street Journal), the English language Shortwave Radio and TV World Service of NHK - the Japanese public broadcaster, and so on...

Yes, I am the Canadian journalist John Bosnitch who liberated the late World Chess Champion Bobby Fischer from his illegal imprisonment in Japan on a false U.S. extradition request.

And I am also the same John Bosnitch whose testimony convicted police officers Denis and Tapp for brutality in Montreal in the 1980s; the former candidate for mayor in eastern Canada, the university student leader and so on... I simply won't sit idly by when fundamental justice is violated, entire nations are demonized and a plutocracy like today's US-EU military industrial complex runs rampant across the planet bombing, killing and enslaving nations around the globe.

Why do I put my name, profession and contact info below each post? Because I believe that people should speak openly and freely under their real names, allowing their critics to assess whether their ethnic origin might be clouding their judgment while also making it possible for like-minded people to contact them and build the kind of democratic networks that we so desperately need to turn the tide of the battle against the oligarchic Western empire, not just in the Balkans but around the globe.

Enough background? I hope so.

Best to all,

John Bosnitch
Journalist

Obilic by saying always "KOSOVO JE SRBIJA!"means that it is not,but you must raise your claim for Kosovo!?Kosovo fulfilles other criteria to be an independend!Kosovo is passing a process to full independent and believe me nobody in Pristina is caring what Serbia thought.

Why is not Jeremic sending a harsh note to the serbian government about this declaration of a us official "on the holy land of the serbs".actually where disappeared Mr.Jeremic,we need him to give us his judgments about the situation and to show the western powers how they have to act on Kosovo.

The statement “Kosovo Independence Irreversible” is being repeated for those of you who still think that Kosovo is under Serbian authority. It is obvious that these kinds of statements will be repeated for some time, until everyone realizes that. The fact that Kosovo has its president, prime minister, line ministers, its own police, now building its own army, has its own embassies abroad; there are embassies in Kosovo, Kosovo member of some very important international institutions, etc etc. leaves to understanding that Kosovo is independent. If we compare these facts with those that in a way would prove the opposite then we will get a clear picture, i.e. Kosovo independence is indeed irreversible.

irreversible medical conditions:
vasectomy:y
brain damage:y
illegal secessionism:n

Joe,

The so called big international newspapers as well as other media organs need good servents and manipulators who will write and sing what those who have money and interests want.They need directable and adoptable janichars and droids.Journalist with strong personality and hunger for truth are not welcome there and cannot be "bribed" so they work rather for smaller papers.Of corse many of these on local level tend to be leniant and influanced as well but still the fact searching journalism is more charecteristic to them .There are also some very interesting papers like NY Times from which you often gain your information.If you take the printed edition in your hand and forget about the first 20 pages it is one of the best sources but if you start reading the front page well then it is something like Egyszer volt,hol nem volt...(Once upon a time.)

WRONG. You treated your southern citizens with cruelty, misery, hate and terror. 10,000+ dead, 800,000 cleansed, over 100,000 houses burned to the ground, mass graves all the way to Belgrade, massacres of kids, women and eldery. All this from done from a regular army and police force which is supposed to be trained and comply with intl civilized standards.
(Denis, 26 August 2009 06:38)

You are speaking only about Milosević. But mayby we can speak about NATO hypocrisy??

100 THOUSANDS killed, thousands peoples gassed, 4000 villages destroyed, 250 villages and towns exposed to chemical weapons, destroyed 1754 schools, 270 hospitals, 2450 mosques, 27 churches, wiped out around 90% of villages in targeted areas. Where?? In Iraqi Kurdistan during Saddam time. So - where is "independent" Kurdistan?? Is ANY "independnt" Kurdistan - Iraqi Kurdistan is still autonomous province of Iraq.

Next - 80000 killed overall by end of 2008 (including civilians), 7000-8000 civilians killed January through May 2009, destroyed big regions - where?? In Tamil regions of Sri Lanka. So where is "independent" Tamil Ilam?? Is ANY "independent" Ilam - Tamil territory is still part of Sri Lanka without autonomy.

So - don't speak about casualties of war in Kosovo. Speak about Kurdish or Tamil casualties - much, much more highest. So where is international support for Tamil or Kurdish independence?? Is any support and will be any. US/NATO support to Kosovo - is only becouse they will to destroy Serbia - Russian ally on the Balkan Peninsula. If Milosevic would be pro-NATO ruler - NATO would carry any intervention in Kosovo in 1999 and today in Kosovo will stay serbian army and police.

Many of you are living in a time warp, as Kosovo/a, however you spell it, has been independent for over one year. no one in their right mind believes that kosovo/a will "return" to serbia, now or ever.

of course Serbia could attack Kosovo/a in the future, esp.ly if nato leaves, but i think it would be a suicide mission. no one, certainly no albanian i have ever met or read of (which is many)would ever accept such a possibility. it is one precept that every one of them is united on, while there may be wide disagreement on many other specifics, which is perfectly normal.

do strongly agree with ambassador dell here(don't know much about him): Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy, due process, rule of law, improving the economy, etc.

of course it is going slowly, for a variety of reasons, some to do with post-communism, many to do with the 90s, and the global "recession."

the US will not abandon kosovo/a, and hopes to see the progress of all countries in the region, in a peaceful manner.

about who was whose "ally" in ww2, i shall not comment.

roberto
frisco

John Bosnitch,

You seem to make a big deal out of your profession. Are you representing a big international newspaper by any chance? Should we also give our profession? Do you think that the "opinion" of a "journalist" should weight more on this site? Curious to hear from you.

smile,

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think the way Serbia treated 2 millions of her own citizens of Kosovo in the nineties was legal and acccepatable by international standards of human rights?

Once the USA really gets to know Kosovo, it won't be able to stand Kosovo. When two bullies get together, at first they may appear to be friends,but eventually they become bitter rivals.

Dear John Bosnitch, "journalist" and Mugabe's supporter, I hope for Serbia that you do not represent the public opinion where you live. It would be quite embarrassing for your country. Maybe you should be better informed about what you say in relation to international politics, especially for Africa.

Joe,

Sorry while typing my last post I watched paralelly Debracen's Champion league qulifing match and I believe that instead of 1700 I mistyped 1800 making the situation much different.

John Bosnitch,

If you are the one who fought for Bobby "The supergenious " Fischer then all my respect.I met this great man in Hungarian chess federation building several times during his long stay in Budapest at the end of 90s and had opportunity to talk to him about many topics mainly politics.Brilliant mind Graet personality exactly a kind which is not welcomed by those who run US as opposed to those whose IQ is under 90 and can be easily brainwashed.

szemi,

The problem with your "open window" exampe is that this didn't happen overnight. The K-Albanians as a majority in Kosovo were there for a long long time. If we would apply your example for the Serbs in Vojvodina than we could tell that the Hungarians some 500 years ago were very good-hearded and genereous and accepted the Serbs into Hungary, the present day Vojvodina. It was around that time that a Serbian bishop led some 150,000 Serbs from Kosovo into Hungary. According to your logic people could say that regardless of the current Serbian majority Vojvodina should still be part of Hungary because the Hungarians alowed the Serbs in through the "open window". The "open window" theory is of course did not work (see Trianon) and not working internationally neither in the case of Hungary nor in the case of Serbia.

The Swiss,

I was thinking about you few days ago since you were working in banking for some 20 years. You who tell us so often that the US hardy count anymore how do you explain that in the fight about banking secrecy the Swiss threw in the towel and cried uncle?

szemi,

If I understand you correctly people should not buy the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Le Figaro, Le Monde, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Zuricher Zeitung, etc because they don't write the truth. Those who buy them are stupid naive people. What people should look for are papers written by our friend John Bosnitch and journalists similar to John. But what happens if John is so hungry for the truth (as you state it) that not even small papers want to publish him? There are many journalists, who are unemployed...meaning not publishing anywhere. I knew myself a young Hungarian, who for a very short time wrote in a small Hungarian regional newspaper (in the sport section). After that for a very long time he still intruduced himself as a journalist.

Joe,
There is big difference between rátelepítés(driving the population A out of area where they have lived and replacing with population B who serve the interest of occupiers) and betelepítés(settling down a population in a completely unpopulated area as in case of Vajdaság or Vojvodina at the at the end of 17th century.)Rátelepités is for example rather characteristic to ERdély.So in fact in 1800 100 percent of Vojvodina population were serbs and this made Habsurgs who have always been afraid of Poles and Serbs knowing their non-servant mentality and fighting spirit(of course when they needed their help against turks for a while they forgot about backstabbing these two people) very worried therefor started settling down in the area more obidient people.Also I must mention that Serbs settled down in Vajdaság and Albanians in Kosovo played a very different role.One were there to defend christian europe against ottomans the other ones to help the enemy.Hungarians often have short memory and tend to belive that after Zenta battle Török átok(Turkish Curse) was over.No JOe they were here at the gates for 2 more centuries and not let back thanks to serb border defenders.It must although be mentioned that Europe betrayed christians of Balkans in very ugly way.So Joe if your cottage is empty and burglered several times and you invite a guard whom you promise that he can live in the room for good and the guard does the work well and keeps the burglars away and you are satisfied with the guard it is not a good form to backstab that guy later when the area becomes safer.

Dear Riff Kosumi, Number 17 comment...

70% of your building material and groceries come from Serbia, something Albin Kurit once tried to block, until other Albanians told him to shut up, because if serb goods were blocked, it would not come from anywhere else in such bulk...

Too expensive to drive goods from Croatia, Bosnia via Montenegro to Kosovo!!!

Your history isd your future, so embrace it.

If I understand you correctly people should not buy the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Le Figaro, Le Monde, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Zuricher Zeitung, etc because they don't write the truth. Those who buy them are stupid naive people.(Joe, 25 August 2009 20:31)

Joe, Perhaps I expressed myself not preciasly enough.Well of course people should buy and read this papers but not take everything for granted and be aware that according to some interests these papers show usually one side of the coin (and even this quite often twisted) while silencing and not showing the other side thus not displaying the full truth.Usually journalists who write inconvenient articles for owners are dismissed earlier or later.The above mentioned papers similarly to mainstream hungarian media target the more manipulate masses ,although many of them I must admit and therefor I gave you the example NY Times have some good background articles but quite interestingly on more hidden pages.Otherwise ZZ,FAZ BBC as well as Euronews are a good example of one sided information giving.You must have heard about crimes commited against gypsies in Hungary recently.In the above mentioned media organs you can often find articles and reports about rising nazism ,Magyar Gárda and rasism.All these organs however portray gypsies only as innocent victims while forget to mention that in recent years gypsies commited many more crimes against non-gypsies and other gypsies including hundreds of murders(where victims were usually defendless old people mainly in villages).Or for example before Hungary's and POland's EU accesion you could read in mainstream media only about advantages of EU while in smaller local papers much better articales which portrayed disadvanteges of course besides adventages.I served in army with many student from faculty of arts.Quite interestingly many of those who were the good bootlickers of sergants work for mainstream media of differnt colours now while some of those who had spine write for local papers with deeper insight.

I have always been amazed at the "others have raped, tortured, murdered, so they should be punished before me"
Defense.
(pss, 26 August 2009 17:14)

?? Why You Albanians included all terrorists from KLA in the number of innocent victims?? Or maybe You included in this 10 thousand all Albanians and non-Albanians incl. Serbs killed by KLA terrorists?? Don't be hypocrite. Not all killed in Kosovo were innocent and not all were killed by Serbs but by Albanians too.

Ever since the concept of national sovereignty was invented in Westphalia in 1618 European and later world statesmen believed the international order they imposed was to last for ever. After the Napoleonic wars the great powers even believed that form now on only legitimate hereditary rulers will preside over most of the countries. The victorious powers in Paris in 1919 believed they will put end of all wars and the borders they drew would be final. History teaches us that everything changes!

LOL

the turks said so, the albanians, the austro-hungarians, the nazis, the communists.

dell and america will join this nearly elitaire club

(Triumf, 24 August 2009

i'm sorry i forgot.
Hi triumf, enver said hi :)

milan,
I have always been amazed at the "others have raped, tortured, murdered, so they should be punished before me"
Defense.

“In 1974 dictator broz gave albanians republic within republic but that wasnt enough for them. in 1980/81 they had bloody protests wanting 'republic'. All the while serbs were intimidated, raped, albanians poisoned thier livestock pressuring them to move out so that albanians can be majority.”

Smile, All borders on the Balkans WERE unfair when they were drawn. In most cases in Serbia’s favor. The borders drawn by Tito were no exception. But what was done was done. By the time Milosevic came to power Serbs should have realized that Kosovo was lost. And that the plight of Kosovo’s Serbs, like those in Croatia or BiH should be bettered by international pressure, not by wars. Instead of trying to reincorporate Kosovo, tighten the Yugoslavian federation or when realizing that this is impossible trying to break Croatia and Bih, Serbia should have concentrated on its European integration. It had the chance to be among the first new members, and the EU pressure on Kosovo, BiH and Croatia would have been strong. No Serb would have been displaced.

"we treated our rebel citizens with stupid patience and reluctance and for that reason we have the frozen complication in our southern territory today.

SMILE"

WRONG. You treated your southern citizens with cruelty, misery, hate and terror. 10,000+ dead, 800,000 cleansed, over 100,000 houses burned to the ground, mass graves all the way to Belgrade, massacres of kids, women and eldery. All this from done from a regular army and police force which is supposed to be trained and comply with intl civilized standards.

But there is more, check Kosovo's GDP how it decreased by 10 times from 1990-1999. Read any human rights report of the 90s to understand how you treated the Albanians.

That is why today you don't simply have a "frozen conflict", today you don't have a southern province.

Serbia was never a responsible patron of Kosovo, maybe because it never really owned it without any disputes. Thus first it's better to first learn and respect the human life, becasue the massacres of the 90s throughout the Balkans and war criminals trialed in Hague tell us a different story. Do this first and than try to rule over Kosovo. But I don't think Serbia will have a second chance.

well said Christopher Dell thank you for telling the truth

Firstly, if KosovO was independent, then you would feel the need to constantly express that independence is irreversible. The fact that america is constantly saying this, proves that Kosovo is still SERBIAN and that ripping away our province wont be easy!! Well hey, Kosovo was in the Miss Universe contest so it must be independent, right? hahaha what a joke, how much did the snake pay to have that contestent in the competition. Miss Serbia btw was STUNNING!!

KOSOVO JE SRBIJA!

Who cares what you and your country's policy is?

It's nice to see Yugoslavia finally come to and end. Kosovo deserves it's independence.

Trying to discredit a Miss UNiverse pageant contestant of all things is weak pal. Leave Ms Kosovo and Ms Serbia out of politics they are both beautiful young women trying to build successful careers. Get over it, Kosovo belongs to its over 90% homogenous population.

"Kosovo independence irreversible"

140 countries says it's not. And, as a "democracy", Americans should know that majority rules.

The US cannot deliver anything more than Serbia is offering except Serbia can offer status finalisation and a chance for prosperity.

Greetings from Bratislava, Slovakia.
(Zoran, 24 August 2009 20:36)

Are you kidding man?,,,Do you really REALLY thing that Kosovars will accept anything from Serbia? I tell you what, we'd rather stay like we are now, than have any what-so-ever ties with Serbia. As I can see, you are writing from Slovakia, so I don't really blame you for having such opinions

Hey guys this guy is an American diplomat. So you guys know when America says something it has to be that way.
Remember when Joe Biden came to Belgrade, whole Belgrade was blocked.
For us Albanians, is much more better Americans accepting Kosovo as independent country than other 140 countries as some one here says. Also you know guys, what Americans say "My Way or Highway".
I am not going to say anything, about other powerfull countries who recognized Kosovo.

Yawn....

And Kosovo's independence is irreversibly blocked. The US cannot deliver anything more than Serbia is offering except Serbia can offer status finalisation and a chance for prosperity.

Greetings from Bratislava, Slovakia.

A few responses:
To
#1--Most of the world, and definitely you since you were the first to comment.
#2--Using your argument then those who feel the need to constantly say "Kosovo is Serbia" does so because in reality they know it is not.
#3--140 have not a handful have and the rest have either voiced no opinion or in no hurry to.
#4 Reaction-probably a smirk in public, rolling in the floor in the backroom.
To the numerous "Bondsteel" post-you figured it out, the whole strategy from the start was to build a base without a landing strip to house 1400 primarily National Guards to control all of Southeast Europe.
# 12, I doubt you will find one that would welcome a Russian base, they are not stupid people.
Bottom line--US supports a free and democratic Kosovo.

Maybe Serbia must recognize Republic of Lakotah?? What will be US reaction for this recognition??

"Newly-appointed U.S. Ambassador in Priština Christopher Dell says his country's policy towards Kosovo "remains unchanged".

And they will remain unchanged as long as the Yanks have their military bas there. Then it will be as unchanged as the support for Saddam Hussein, first friend then foe.

Hahahahahahaha, "Kosovo will be a multi-ethnic society" - yes, maybe in it's zoo. But certainly not in its citizenry. US and Albanian leaders keep repeating this tired, old tune yet, they both know this will never be reality. This is just more diplomatic jibberish that goes with Dell's position - but good for a laugh.

Many of you are living in a time warp, as Kosovo/a, however you spell it, has been independent for over one year. no one in their right mind believes that kosovo/a will "return" to serbia, now or ever.

of course Serbia could attack Kosovo/a in the future, esp.ly if nato leaves, but i think it would be a suicide mission. no one, certainly no albanian i have ever met or read of (which is many)would ever accept such a possibility. it is one precept that every one of them is united on, while there may be wide disagreement on many other specifics, which is perfectly normal.

do strongly agree with ambassador dell here(don't know much about him): Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy, due process, rule of law, improving the economy, etc.

of course it is going slowly, for a variety of reasons, some to do with post-communism, many to do with the 90s, and the global "recession."

the US will not abandon kosovo/a, and hopes to see the progress of all countries in the region, in a peaceful manner.

about who was whose "ally" in ww2, i shall not comment.

roberto
frisco

hes says that to make the albanians feel better lol but 90% of the world say no independence and that includes the biggest countries in the world

Out of touch.....where is the reality.....what optimism...when...for whom...

LMN II,

How is it possible that after Iraq Americans let there government get away with yet another breach of international law?

While claiming that South Ossetia should remain part of Georgia?

I mean: do American politicians THEMSELVES believe what they say?

Kosovo independence is illegal! It is time everyone admits that!

Ambassadorship to Kosovo is dead end job at the US State dept.

"First, the independence of the Republic of Kosovo is irrevocable, and U.S. support to Kosovo's independence is unequivocal. Second, we are still dedicated to our joint project of establishing a democratic, multiethnic, tolerant and successful state that is law abiding, and will become a rightful member of the transatlantic and European family," said he.


Wishful thinking, this is the Balkans, not politically correct America or western Europe.

If it weren't for our strategic interests (Camp Bondsteel being one) in KosovO my country wouldn't care one bit about this narco pseudo state or the supposed "plight" of the ethnic Albanians. KosovO will never be a REAL state, it will always be a proxy for western interests, plain and simple.

This country will never be able to stand on it's own. It's already a failed state, but the West is too proud and too ignorant to admit it. The only way KosovO will have any success is if it becomes part of Serbia again.

Triumf,

But is that also the case for Northern Kosovo and Kurdistan?

Zoran,

Thanks to Slovakia for saving international law! It is a shame what the West is doing!

Yes we should recognize every native american indian nation on their own soil, these "palestinians" of north america have been tortured murdered and land-grabbed for long enough now.

I´m sure the lakothas would welcome a Russian "camp bondsteel" to protect their interests..

"First, the independence of the Republic of Kosovo is irrevocable, and U.S. support to Kosovo's independence is unequivocal. Second, we are still dedicated to our joint project of establishing a democratic, multiethnic, tolerant and successful state that is law abiding, and will become a rightful member of the transatlantic and European family," said he.

First = failure
Second = failure
Third = give us a break and change the CD

The statement “Kosovo Independence Irreversible” is being repeated for those of you who still think that Kosovo is under Serbian authority. It is obvious that these kinds of statements will be repeated for some time, until everyone realizes that. The fact that Kosovo has its president, prime minister, line ministers, its own police, now building its own army, has its own embassies abroad; there are embassies in Kosovo, Kosovo member of some very important international institutions, etc etc. leaves to understanding that Kosovo is independent. If we compare these facts with those that in a way would prove the opposite then we will get a clear picture, i.e. Kosovo independence is indeed irreversible.

Who is this guy?

Why would you support unilateral declarations of independance from Kosovo? You have the largest military base there-- and yup, that's it I guess.

This is ridiculous. The US is meddling in too many pots while its domestic policies are going down the toilet.

Obilic by saying always "KOSOVO JE SRBIJA!"means that it is not,but you must raise your claim for Kosovo!?Kosovo fulfilles other criteria to be an independend!Kosovo is passing a process to full independent and believe me nobody in Pristina is caring what Serbia thought.

Why is not Jeremic sending a harsh note to the serbian government about this declaration of a us official "on the holy land of the serbs".actually where disappeared Mr.Jeremic,we need him to give us his judgments about the situation and to show the western powers how they have to act on Kosovo.

When I think that there are still naive people who believe in made in USA foreign policy..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090824/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cia_interrogations

Good luck to the dreamers!

The Swiss,

I was thinking about you few days ago since you were working in banking for some 20 years. You who tell us so often that the US hardy count anymore how do you explain that in the fight about banking secrecy the Swiss threw in the towel and cried uncle?

"The project implies continuation of setting up institutions of the Kosovo government and society, ensuring that Kosovo will become a home for its citizens regardless of their nationality, and their unification in the foundation process of the youngest European democratic state, as well as continuation with the development of economy, so that all citizens can benefit from it."

-- There's a major difference between seeing a Big Mac advertised on TV looking all big and delicious and then actually getting one at the local McDonalds and wondering why someone apparently left it under the heat lamps to wilt all afternoon.

I love the catch words...democratic, multi-ethnic. Come on America, I have lived in your country all my life. Lets stop with the jargon and just say all we care about is business, business, and more business.

smile,

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think the way Serbia treated 2 millions of her own citizens of Kosovo in the nineties was legal and acccepatable by international standards of human rights?

Dear John Bosnitch, "journalist" and Mugabe's supporter, I hope for Serbia that you do not represent the public opinion where you live. It would be quite embarrassing for your country. Maybe you should be better informed about what you say in relation to international politics, especially for Africa.

Well its irreversible at the "moment" for the U.S. But of course policies change... i mean Serbia was once an important ally of the U.S. when we fought against the Nazis in WW2.

"Kosovo's independence is irreversible".I think this total nonsense cliche text is taught at every introduction to american diplomacy 101 course during first lessons.At least this appointed diplomats keep repeating it as some nervous-wreck parrot which has undergone heavy brainwashing accompanied by some electroshock therapy.However it is also worth taking a 101 introduction to history of central and south-east europe to see that nothing is irreversible in this region.Needless to say not at George Soros funded Central Europen University where it is taught from heavily manipulated books written by such "talents" as Stipe Mesic or Adam LeBor

"Dell's new diplomatic mission in Kosovo is his second in the last ten years, as he was already the head of the U.S. Liaison Office in Priština from 2000 until 2001.
During his career, Dell was his country's deputy mission chief in Afghanistan, ambassador in Zimbabwe and Angola, and deputy ambassador in Bulgaria."

This person is obviously one of the State Department's military-economic hitmen sent into target nations to try to overthrow the government (if it is independent) or to support it (if it is a U.S. colony). The fact that he was one of the first deployed to Kosovo in 2000 is an indication that he goes to crisis regions as a key imperialist player.

In Zimbabwe, he was seen as having failed to bring down Mugabe despite years of running dirty tricks and financing the U.S. trained "opposition". In Afghanistan, he failed miserably to eliminate the Taliban despite having unlimited military and cash resources. Now he is trying to shore up the sinking U.S. colony of Bondsteelia (Kosova/o). He should have equal success there and he can finally be retired after three major strike-outs in the foreign service.

Here in Serbia, the bigger they come, the harder they fall.

Amen.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

szemi,

If I understand you correctly people should not buy the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Le Figaro, Le Monde, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Zuricher Zeitung, etc because they don't write the truth. Those who buy them are stupid naive people. What people should look for are papers written by our friend John Bosnitch and journalists similar to John. But what happens if John is so hungry for the truth (as you state it) that not even small papers want to publish him? There are many journalists, who are unemployed...meaning not publishing anywhere. I knew myself a young Hungarian, who for a very short time wrote in a small Hungarian regional newspaper (in the sport section). After that for a very long time he still intruduced himself as a journalist.

"we treated our rebel citizens with stupid patience and reluctance and for that reason we have the frozen complication in our southern territory today.

SMILE"

WRONG. You treated your southern citizens with cruelty, misery, hate and terror. 10,000+ dead, 800,000 cleansed, over 100,000 houses burned to the ground, mass graves all the way to Belgrade, massacres of kids, women and eldery. All this from done from a regular army and police force which is supposed to be trained and comply with intl civilized standards.

But there is more, check Kosovo's GDP how it decreased by 10 times from 1990-1999. Read any human rights report of the 90s to understand how you treated the Albanians.

That is why today you don't simply have a "frozen conflict", today you don't have a southern province.

Serbia was never a responsible patron of Kosovo, maybe because it never really owned it without any disputes. Thus first it's better to first learn and respect the human life, becasue the massacres of the 90s throughout the Balkans and war criminals trialed in Hague tell us a different story. Do this first and than try to rule over Kosovo. But I don't think Serbia will have a second chance.

Sadly Mr. Dell, to the detriment of you and your pathetic accomplices - quite the opposite will be case.

szemi,

The problem with your "open window" exampe is that this didn't happen overnight. The K-Albanians as a majority in Kosovo were there for a long long time. If we would apply your example for the Serbs in Vojvodina than we could tell that the Hungarians some 500 years ago were very good-hearded and genereous and accepted the Serbs into Hungary, the present day Vojvodina. It was around that time that a Serbian bishop led some 150,000 Serbs from Kosovo into Hungary. According to your logic people could say that regardless of the current Serbian majority Vojvodina should still be part of Hungary because the Hungarians alowed the Serbs in through the "open window". The "open window" theory is of course did not work (see Trianon) and not working internationally neither in the case of Hungary nor in the case of Serbia.

“In 1974 dictator broz gave albanians republic within republic but that wasnt enough for them. in 1980/81 they had bloody protests wanting 'republic'. All the while serbs were intimidated, raped, albanians poisoned thier livestock pressuring them to move out so that albanians can be majority.”

Smile, All borders on the Balkans WERE unfair when they were drawn. In most cases in Serbia’s favor. The borders drawn by Tito were no exception. But what was done was done. By the time Milosevic came to power Serbs should have realized that Kosovo was lost. And that the plight of Kosovo’s Serbs, like those in Croatia or BiH should be bettered by international pressure, not by wars. Instead of trying to reincorporate Kosovo, tighten the Yugoslavian federation or when realizing that this is impossible trying to break Croatia and Bih, Serbia should have concentrated on its European integration. It had the chance to be among the first new members, and the EU pressure on Kosovo, BiH and Croatia would have been strong. No Serb would have been displaced.

Let's wait for the ICJ ruling. It'll be interesting to hear what the US has to say when it rules ni Serbia's favour.

As for the poster who said "what the US wants, it gets", I refer you to Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The US demanded that they belong to Georgia, last I heard they are still under the control of Russia.

John Bosnitch,

You seem to make a big deal out of your profession. Are you representing a big international newspaper by any chance? Should we also give our profession? Do you think that the "opinion" of a "journalist" should weight more on this site? Curious to hear from you.

It's nice to see Yugoslavia finally come to and end. Kosovo deserves it's independence.
(Ian, UK, 24 August 2009 23:36)

What did you have against Yugoslavia?
I thought that you only became aware of Kosovo after that Albanians refugee family lived with you for a while.

Dear Mr. Dell,

I refer to your statements yesterday regarding Kosovo's irreversible independence status.

As I am sure you are aware, Kosovo is not an independent nation under international law and hence remains part of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Serbia.

I assure you that while your comments are partially true, you have confused Kosovo independence being irreversible with international law being irreversible.

I appreciate the fact that you must justify to stakeholders your completely fabricated job title however I feel obliged to notify you that entire world can see through your blatant lies.

Yours faithfully,
Daveo Dinkum.

So tell me Your Excellency – when the Mexicans and other Hispanics reach a majority of the population in say; California or New Mexico and decide to cede from the Union because they perceive the rest of you to be racists and bigots will it be okay for the rest of us to recognise their independence? As usual double standards – don’t do as I do – do as I say.

milan,
I have always been amazed at the "others have raped, tortured, murdered, so they should be punished before me"
Defense.

irreversible medical conditions:
vasectomy:y
brain damage:y
illegal secessionism:n

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think the way Serbia treated 2 millions of her own citizens of Kosovo in the nineties was legal and acccepatable by international standards of human rights?
(Joe, 25 August 2009 18:00)

Joe,

Let us take the following example.Someone sees that the window of your Transdanubian cottage or Long Island mansion is open.The one enters your property with his family through this window(BTW the literal example is not rare in today's Hungary in certain parts of Szabolcs,BAZ or Somogy counties ).You are good-hearted let those poor people stay there ,but they gradully become more agressive misbehave,disturb your family members poison your golden fish torture your cat and demand more rooms while making your life more unbearable.Are you a Balek(lame duck) and bow in front of their will or forget about their "human rights" and turn hard?

Roberto,

"Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy"

I believe that Kosovo is lacking the, er, 'raw materials' to fulfil this aspiration.

(Triumf, 24 August 2009

i'm sorry i forgot.
Hi triumf, enver said hi :)

"Many of you are living in a time warp, as Kosovo/a, however you spell it, has been independent for over one year. no one in their right mind believes that kosovo/a will "return" to serbia, now or ever."

>Roberto, who is living in a time-warp actually? =)

"of course Serbia could attack Kosovo/a in the future, esp.ly if nato leaves, but i think it would be a suicide mission. no one, certainly no albanian i have ever met or read of (which is many)would ever accept such a possibility. it is one precept that every one of them is united on, while there may be wide disagreement on many other specifics, which is perfectly normal."

>I do not think that would be a "suicide mission" at all - but you as an Alb.. uhmmm.. sorry, as an Hungarian of course, do desperately cling to this weird whishful thinking among teenie-k-albanians.

well, you may dream as long as you wish...

by the way, I think that there are more reasonable Albanians in southern Serbia, who know very well, what would happen if they were to face Serbia without any foreign help...

but, and I am convinced of that, those amongst the K-albanians who are reasonable, will prevail.

there will not be one single bullet shot, it will happen peacefully.

it´s just a question of time.

"do strongly agree with ambassador dell here(don't know much about him): Kosovo/a is moving forward, gradually building a multi-ethnic democracy, due process, rule of law, improving the economy, etc.

of course it is going slowly, for a variety of reasons, some to do with post-communism, many to do with the 90s, and the global "recession." "

>uhum, yeah.

"the US will not abandon kosovo/a"

>just like they did not abandon the government of Mohammad Mossadegh, and afterwards like they did not abandon Mohammad Shah Reza Pahlevi ...

or like they did not abandon the Iraqi Kurds in the late 1980´s...

Roberto, you shouldn´t write down your optimistic dreams
here, since the probability that you are right is rather small.

"..., and hopes to see the progress of all countries in the region, in a peaceful manner. "

>Serbia is already progressing: they will be traveling across Europe, while the "Bosnians" and Albanians will still dream of that.

do you know what? I think your comments are really enlighting.

thanks for the entertainment.

Joe,

The so called big international newspapers as well as other media organs need good servents and manipulators who will write and sing what those who have money and interests want.They need directable and adoptable janichars and droids.Journalist with strong personality and hunger for truth are not welcome there and cannot be "bribed" so they work rather for smaller papers.Of corse many of these on local level tend to be leniant and influanced as well but still the fact searching journalism is more charecteristic to them .There are also some very interesting papers like NY Times from which you often gain your information.If you take the printed edition in your hand and forget about the first 20 pages it is one of the best sources but if you start reading the front page well then it is something like Egyszer volt,hol nem volt...(Once upon a time.)

Ian (UK) i am puzzled why are you so happy at the break up of Yugoslavia?

Maybe you should be better informed about what you say in relation to international politics, especially for Africa.
(massimo, 25 August 2009 16:45)

Before giving lessons to others please be better informed what african people think.Yes most of them consider Mugabe a monster but at least one of their own while Tsvangirai is considered also a devil with the difference that he is the one who serves only outside interests.Being critical of those who want to remove Mugabe with dirty tricks does not mean automatically that you are his supporter.If someone for example is critical of Israel it does not mean that the one is automaticly a neo-nazi.Anyway more blood is stuck to hands of african dictators supported by "west" during the last century than anywhere else.But somehow the politically correct european media keeps silent about those sins.

Ever since the concept of national sovereignty was invented in Westphalia in 1618 European and later world statesmen believed the international order they imposed was to last for ever. After the Napoleonic wars the great powers even believed that form now on only legitimate hereditary rulers will preside over most of the countries. The victorious powers in Paris in 1919 believed they will put end of all wars and the borders they drew would be final. History teaches us that everything changes!

Once the USA really gets to know Kosovo, it won't be able to stand Kosovo. When two bullies get together, at first they may appear to be friends,but eventually they become bitter rivals.

Joe, your question is too simple for your credibility's sake :)
in war on terrorism like in war on terrorism, joe? no need to pull cheap antiserb tricks on me pls :)
we treated our rebel citizens with stupid patience and reluctance and for that reason we have the frozen complication in our southern territory today.
And let me remind you that history of kosovo doesnt start in 90s, strange at is may sound to some :) lets not even go very far. In 1974 dictator broz gave albanians republic within republic but that wasnt enough for them. in 1980/81 they had bloody protests wanting 'republic'. All the while serbs were intimidated, raped, albanians poisoned thier livestock pressuring them to move out so that albanians can be majority.
http://www.kunstradio.at/WAR/binder-nytimes.html
What do you think joe, honestly, why milosevic told serbs in kosovo in 1989 nobody will beat you? this is not a rhetorical question. 1989 who was harrassing serbs so much that milosevic exploited it promising protection, finally?
Then we had classic terrorism from albanians in 90s. Milosevic has his blame becuase after dayton he was darling of the west and probably had a deal not to root out terrorist kla there and then when they reared their ugly head in 1996.
All things considered we treated terrorists too well. civilians unfortunately were victims of terrorists, nato and sometimes renegades from our ranks. Once nato attacked that was war and bad things were done by all sides. also out army and police especially along border with albania fought heroic battles. nato is to blame becuase they started the war. check the dates and see if any crimes except terrorist kla attacks on serb and albanian civilians and cops or if movement of population in kosovo happened before 24 march 1999 when nato attacked.
But of course you know all that. what you do is sorry gloating, empty stuff. why do you need it in your life? let go of dead empires and useless grudges. if i dreamed about our empire that's also gone like yours i'd be furstrated at our good friends the greek for holding thessaloniki nowadays :) but ok, you think you have something to gloat over. and i'm telling you we fight tooth and nail for kosovo and we will continue. russians sustain us in life and we fight our good fight. kosovo's frozen now. we'll see how it goes.

but all in all i'm not really addressing you :) i'm just writing in case some open minded person who doesnt know the truth reads.

WRONG. You treated your southern citizens with cruelty, misery, hate and terror. 10,000+ dead, 800,000 cleansed, over 100,000 houses burned to the ground, mass graves all the way to Belgrade, massacres of kids, women and eldery. All this from done from a regular army and police force which is supposed to be trained and comply with intl civilized standards.
(Denis, 26 August 2009 06:38)

You are speaking only about Milosević. But mayby we can speak about NATO hypocrisy??

100 THOUSANDS killed, thousands peoples gassed, 4000 villages destroyed, 250 villages and towns exposed to chemical weapons, destroyed 1754 schools, 270 hospitals, 2450 mosques, 27 churches, wiped out around 90% of villages in targeted areas. Where?? In Iraqi Kurdistan during Saddam time. So - where is "independent" Kurdistan?? Is ANY "independnt" Kurdistan - Iraqi Kurdistan is still autonomous province of Iraq.

Next - 80000 killed overall by end of 2008 (including civilians), 7000-8000 civilians killed January through May 2009, destroyed big regions - where?? In Tamil regions of Sri Lanka. So where is "independent" Tamil Ilam?? Is ANY "independent" Ilam - Tamil territory is still part of Sri Lanka without autonomy.

So - don't speak about casualties of war in Kosovo. Speak about Kurdish or Tamil casualties - much, much more highest. So where is international support for Tamil or Kurdish independence?? Is any support and will be any. US/NATO support to Kosovo - is only becouse they will to destroy Serbia - Russian ally on the Balkan Peninsula. If Milosevic would be pro-NATO ruler - NATO would carry any intervention in Kosovo in 1999 and today in Kosovo will stay serbian army and police.

Dear fellow contributors,

Sorry to have provoked such an extended discussion about my journalistic career.

I spent almost two decades in Japan working in the media, including time spent at the Yomiuri Shimbun (then the world's largest paper by circulation), The Nikkei (Japan's equivalent of the Wall Street Journal), the English language Shortwave Radio and TV World Service of NHK - the Japanese public broadcaster, and so on...

Yes, I am the Canadian journalist John Bosnitch who liberated the late World Chess Champion Bobby Fischer from his illegal imprisonment in Japan on a false U.S. extradition request.

And I am also the same John Bosnitch whose testimony convicted police officers Denis and Tapp for brutality in Montreal in the 1980s; the former candidate for mayor in eastern Canada, the university student leader and so on... I simply won't sit idly by when fundamental justice is violated, entire nations are demonized and a plutocracy like today's US-EU military industrial complex runs rampant across the planet bombing, killing and enslaving nations around the globe.

Why do I put my name, profession and contact info below each post? Because I believe that people should speak openly and freely under their real names, allowing their critics to assess whether their ethnic origin might be clouding their judgment while also making it possible for like-minded people to contact them and build the kind of democratic networks that we so desperately need to turn the tide of the battle against the oligarchic Western empire, not just in the Balkans but around the globe.

Enough background? I hope so.

Best to all,

John Bosnitch
Journalist

Dear Riff Kosumi, Number 17 comment...

70% of your building material and groceries come from Serbia, something Albin Kurit once tried to block, until other Albanians told him to shut up, because if serb goods were blocked, it would not come from anywhere else in such bulk...

Too expensive to drive goods from Croatia, Bosnia via Montenegro to Kosovo!!!

Your history isd your future, so embrace it.

So the K-albanians dont want UNMIK and now EULEX. Look we have to be there you Albanians are unstable and cause too much trouble, now get into line and do as you are told.

If I understand you correctly people should not buy the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Le Figaro, Le Monde, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Zuricher Zeitung, etc because they don't write the truth. Those who buy them are stupid naive people.(Joe, 25 August 2009 20:31)

Joe, Perhaps I expressed myself not preciasly enough.Well of course people should buy and read this papers but not take everything for granted and be aware that according to some interests these papers show usually one side of the coin (and even this quite often twisted) while silencing and not showing the other side thus not displaying the full truth.Usually journalists who write inconvenient articles for owners are dismissed earlier or later.The above mentioned papers similarly to mainstream hungarian media target the more manipulate masses ,although many of them I must admit and therefor I gave you the example NY Times have some good background articles but quite interestingly on more hidden pages.Otherwise ZZ,FAZ BBC as well as Euronews are a good example of one sided information giving.You must have heard about crimes commited against gypsies in Hungary recently.In the above mentioned media organs you can often find articles and reports about rising nazism ,Magyar Gárda and rasism.All these organs however portray gypsies only as innocent victims while forget to mention that in recent years gypsies commited many more crimes against non-gypsies and other gypsies including hundreds of murders(where victims were usually defendless old people mainly in villages).Or for example before Hungary's and POland's EU accesion you could read in mainstream media only about advantages of EU while in smaller local papers much better articales which portrayed disadvanteges of course besides adventages.I served in army with many student from faculty of arts.Quite interestingly many of those who were the good bootlickers of sergants work for mainstream media of differnt colours now while some of those who had spine write for local papers with deeper insight.

Joe,
There is big difference between rátelepítés(driving the population A out of area where they have lived and replacing with population B who serve the interest of occupiers) and betelepítés(settling down a population in a completely unpopulated area as in case of Vajdaság or Vojvodina at the at the end of 17th century.)Rátelepités is for example rather characteristic to ERdély.So in fact in 1800 100 percent of Vojvodina population were serbs and this made Habsurgs who have always been afraid of Poles and Serbs knowing their non-servant mentality and fighting spirit(of course when they needed their help against turks for a while they forgot about backstabbing these two people) very worried therefor started settling down in the area more obidient people.Also I must mention that Serbs settled down in Vajdaság and Albanians in Kosovo played a very different role.One were there to defend christian europe against ottomans the other ones to help the enemy.Hungarians often have short memory and tend to belive that after Zenta battle Török átok(Turkish Curse) was over.No JOe they were here at the gates for 2 more centuries and not let back thanks to serb border defenders.It must although be mentioned that Europe betrayed christians of Balkans in very ugly way.So Joe if your cottage is empty and burglered several times and you invite a guard whom you promise that he can live in the room for good and the guard does the work well and keeps the burglars away and you are satisfied with the guard it is not a good form to backstab that guy later when the area becomes safer.

Joe,

Sorry while typing my last post I watched paralelly Debracen's Champion league qulifing match and I believe that instead of 1700 I mistyped 1800 making the situation much different.

John Bosnitch,

If you are the one who fought for Bobby "The supergenious " Fischer then all my respect.I met this great man in Hungarian chess federation building several times during his long stay in Budapest at the end of 90s and had opportunity to talk to him about many topics mainly politics.Brilliant mind Graet personality exactly a kind which is not welcomed by those who run US as opposed to those whose IQ is under 90 and can be easily brainwashed.

LOL

the turks said so, the albanians, the austro-hungarians, the nazis, the communists.

dell and america will join this nearly elitaire club

I have always been amazed at the "others have raped, tortured, murdered, so they should be punished before me"
Defense.
(pss, 26 August 2009 17:14)

?? Why You Albanians included all terrorists from KLA in the number of innocent victims?? Or maybe You included in this 10 thousand all Albanians and non-Albanians incl. Serbs killed by KLA terrorists?? Don't be hypocrite. Not all killed in Kosovo were innocent and not all were killed by Serbs but by Albanians too.