Parties on irregularities in Kosovo vote

Milan

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you.

so only 1/3 of serbien people care for serbien "elections"?

Paralel institutions or not, this is a joke, that's on the serbien tax payers expence.

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you."
Olf

At least we don't elect war criminals, drugsmuglers and human traffickers for office.
Kosovo is a paradise for these kind of people.

as usually guessing but again wrong.
Gracanica and Peja/Pec is booming with prosperity and this due to investments from Serbia. People are so happy that they are the no.1 buyers of anti-depressants in Kosovo.
Come to Gracanica to see the resutl of your support.
I work mainly with K-Serb community in Kosovo and I can really tell some stories.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 15:38)

If you work mainly with the Serbian community, I feel sorry for them considering your antagonistic tone towards Serbs on this site... unless of course you present another face to them when in Zvecan or Gracanica.

so only 1/3 of serbien people care for serbien "elections"?

Paralel institutions or not, this is a joke, that's on the serbien tax payers expence.
(so so, 17 August 2009, 11:24)

Number of Serbs who participated in last election in only two municipalities is much more than number of Serbs who participate in kosovan elections.

Last time in kosovan elections in Gračanica voted mayby 10 Serbs...

Please, from now on stop complaining/blaiming the Kosovo Government for not supporting you,for lack of security, for unemployment, for lack of freedom of movement, etc, unless you change your minds and participate in the Kosovo Elections. If you K. Serbs really like the way you have lived for the last 10 years now, that's your problem, but spare us of the above complaints.

Jason,

Don't worry too much about Olf. He tends to exaggerate a few claims in order for his side to come out more awesome. Being in Gracanica myself, and I'm assuming you've been there too, there is indeed a general sense of political apathy by the Serbs towards Belgrade. They see Belgrade as run by people who love to use their plight for their political gain. Yet somehow here people are equating low voter turnout and political disillusionment with some sort of failure of Serbian democracy when in fact the real solution is to facilitate local parties who have a better sense of what is immediately needed. I think the low turnout is a sign that K-Serbs have had enough. But until real on the ground movements establish themselves south of the Ibar, they'd rather vote for Belgrade based parties than anything coming out of Pristina.

Funny how boycotting by one's own group is understood as protest while boycotting by another group is interpreted as stupidity.

1/3 of Serbs voting in Serbian elections in Kosovo is still better than 0/3 voting in Albanian. Apathy and disullusionment (not to mention the people organizing it apparently can't get their act together) largely define the turnout.

Last time in kosovan elections in Gračanica voted mayby 10 Serbs...
(Milan,

How many Albanians voted on this "election"?
Who supports multiethnicity according to hard facts?

MikeC

as usually guessing but again wrong.
Gracanica and Peja/Pec is booming with prosperity and this due to investments from Serbia. People are so happy that they are the no.1 buyers of anti-depressants in Kosovo.
Come to Gracanica to see the resutl of your support.
I work mainly with K-Serb community in Kosovo and I can really tell some stories.

Hi Milan:
And where do you place Slobodan Milosevic?
(rest my case, 17 August 2009 14:52)

And what exactly was Milosevic guilty of at the time he was elected?

On the other hand your Thaci & Co are guilty of all sorts of horrible things.
That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.

hello peggy

If you told us that you would foulsly testify against "ceku & co" for 300k€ we would belive you.
As for criminals and not criminals, politicians are just that.
Look at Serbian uninterupted "elections" serbiens ready to "liquidate" another one for a grim of power. But I'm sure not all your fellow Serbian politicians are like that.

Hi Milan:
And where do you place Slobodan Milosevic?

Jason
no need to feel sorry.
I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice.
I present no different face to them.They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them.

He explained that of the 662 people, SPS won 255 votes, while the Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) got 160 votes, the Serb Progressive Party (SNS) 106, the Democratic Party (DS) 94, Social Democratic Party 30 and the Serb Radical Party (SRS) 10 votes.

According to this, seven ballots were invalid.

A total of 8,310 voters, including displaced persons, had the right to vote in Peć, and once all these votes have been counted, it will be known who won the early local ballot.

Formig a council with 662 votes or with less than 8% of votes is just great, this say a lot. Actually, it tells in other words that, number of Serbs or better said Serb Voters in Kosovo is being manipulated. If claims that in KS there are 200-250k serbs are true how comes that in Peja/Pec there are only just more than 8k voters, especially when we take into account that Peja/Pec had the larges portion of Serb population in pre-war KS.

Don't be so upset. They were just playing democracy.

Anyone who might be surprised at irregularities in any kind of voting in Kosovo should go to their nearest pharmacy and buy some 'cop on' tablets.

MB,Ireland

"I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice."
Olf

I guess you are the one they elected since you say you represent them.

Does somebody really belive that the people elected someone? These are not elections! Everybody knew who is beeing elected or not? Look at the results. Serbian government have never ever known what democratic elections are, specially not in Kosovo. According to serbian government "The only good elections are arranged elections". I do congratulate all the serbs in Kosovo. I hope that this will open their eyes.

Oh yeah, Peggy, I'm sure Serbian politicians are not only the cleanest in the Balkans but on whole Earth.
(Berkeley, 17 August 2009 20:37)

No politician is clean, we all know that but none have innocent blood on their hands like yours do.
Big difference.

hello peggy

If you told us that you would foulsly testify against "ceku & co" for 300k€ we would belive you.
As for criminals and not criminals, politicians are just that.
Look at Serbian uninterupted "elections" serbiens ready to "liquidate" another one for a grim of power. But I'm sure not all your fellow Serbian politicians are like that.
(drink water, 17 August 2009 17:06)

I would never falsely testify against anyone but there is no need to lie as far as Ceku and the rest are concerned. Their deeds speak for themselves.

That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.
(Peggy, 17 August 2009 15:39)

Oh yeah, Peggy, I'm sure Serbian politicians are not only the cleanest in the Balkans but on whole Earth.

'the Bridge Watcher'

I vaguely remember 'olf' :) hey do you remember the bridge 17 march 2004? a lesson to us all. i know to you albanians that's hard to accept but the line runs there and we should all learn our lessons. and i mean ALL.

berkely, I'm sure that the serbian politicians would thank you for your glowing recommendations, but I wouldn't be so fast at giving them that title. western politicians are just as good as the eastern ones. They're all crooked theifs. don't be so fast as to isolate one set. usa's political mess only looks good on cnns soap operas, but the rest of the world see them, and uks and eus as they are. human, falible, corropable, and certainly not above any weaknesses found elsewhere. they are the collective nesseary evil that we must all endure, regardless of adminstration flavour (capitalistic, socialistic, communistic, dictatorship, etc, etc, ad naseum...

Jason
no need to feel sorry.
I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice.
I present no different face to them.They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 20:05)

That says it all... I now know with 100% certainty that you are not working with Serbs, and I am fairly certain you are an Albanian.

Your opinions reflect the Serbs?! The ones in Albania perhaps. This is quite amusing considering I am currently in Gracanica on a weekly basis and I can tell you categorically that you are totally and completely wrong.

The second half of your post further convinces me that you are an Albanian... "They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them."

This is great! Here I was all along thinking you actually worked for UN or EU, but I can see otherwise now, "Olf."

'Yes, I know smile
(Olf, 18 August'

You do? gosh golly then we know eachother. btw thats mr smilevich to you. i dont mean that of course :) but 'olf' i've been meaning to ask you why do you think you're an international? also, why do you think there's mafia in north and dont you mean kmitro?

'Are you maybe a Serb in disguise'

dunno but, i am! they call me thor. But only after 15 rounds, eh :)

Jason
I belive that you are in different Gracanica not in the one that I work and live nearly everyday for the past 9 years.Yes, there are people, in minoroty, that would stil like Milosevic to return but that is a small number, the ones that you are talking to.
As for Bridge Watchers, dont be afraid to confess or maybe you are not ranked as suitable to meet them. There is no UN or Eu staff that has not talked to them since the situation dictated it.
(Olf, 18 August 2009 10:36)

Who is talking about Milosevic?! I am saying you are very wrong when you claim to speak for the Serbs in Gracanica. You are speaking pure fiction.

As for the bridge watchers, what in the world are you talking about? You have lost me on that one... Did you have a bad run-in with them or something? :)

Olf,

Nope. I don't think anyone has a clue as to what you are talking about. Yes, everyone knows the bridge watchers. What of it? I don't blame them for watching out for terrorists like the one who came across and threw a hand grenade in Dolce Vita Cafe a few years back. Were you around then? I was. Then there were the others severely maimed by grenades thrown by Albanians into cafes on Lola Ribara Street. They were not protected by us, the international community, so of course they will watch the bridge for security. You should know that since you met them.

Can anyone else try and explain what Olfy is getting at because I am at a loss by now.

attacks you are mentioning have to do with Serbian organised crime and mafia in Mitro, you know that.

Wrong, yet again, Olf. The attacks mentioned were carried out by Albanians. In fact, the last one I mentioned at Dolce Vita was committed by a 15-year old Albanian. He was apprehended fleeing the scene, you may recall.

Nice try at revising history:)

Milan

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 13:57)

Yes - we have our leaders elected in democratic elections. They are only people to speech between Eulex/UN and Serb communities in Kosovo.

Olf,

Try and stay on the subject. You made the ridiculous statement that Serbs threw the grenade into Dolce Vita and the other cafes. I am simply proving you wrong, again. The links give the name of the suspect, who is certainly not a Serb. Clearly you are trying to divert attention of these crimes by bringing up others. I did not work. Nice try though:)

Jason

something or you to comment and investigate.see the link
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=61198

On the other hand your Thaci & Co are guilty of all sorts of horrible things.
That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.
(Peggy, 17 August 2009 15:39)

Peggy can you mention to us which court of law has found them guilty and what were the accusations that this court of law proved?

Jason
I belive that you are in different Gracanica not in the one that I work and live nearly everyday for the past 9 years.Yes, there are people, in minoroty, that would stil like Milosevic to return but that is a small number, the ones that you are talking to.
As for Bridge Watchers, dont be afraid to confess or maybe you are not ranked as suitable to meet them. There is no UN or Eu staff that has not talked to them since the situation dictated it.

Jason

attacks you are mentioning have to do with Serbian organised crime and mafia in Mitro, you know that.

Also, I thought you are to be impartial. Are you maybe a Serb in disguise

"you link tell us of year 2000 when in Mitro more than 20 K-Albanians where killed by Serbs and the rest where driven out at gun point(ethnicaly cleansed)by Serbs paramilitaries."
(Olf, 19 August 2009 09:24)

Enough lies Olf! This never happened. Answer for me one question Olf: How could Serbian paramilitaries kill & ethnically cleanse Albanians from Mitrovica in 2000, when they had all completely withdrawn from Kosovo in June 1999? This was a condition of the Kumanovo agreement between Serbia & Nato. Nato in fact VERIFIED Serbia's unconditional compliance with this condition, before placing their 60,000 peacekeepers in Kosovo in July 1999. Even if Serb Paramilitaries were in Kosovo in 2000 (they were not),it is impossible to fathom how 60,000 American led peacekeepers would've allowed them to commit such a horrible crime against Albanians (which never happened). If this really, had happened why was it never reported in the media?
CNN would have had a field day with something like this! Of course Olf, you did not cite any credible source to back up this ridiculous claim, which is the best proof of all that you made this up.

Here's some free advice for you Olf: Stop arguing with Jason, because it only makes you look worse the longer this drags on. He has presented well thought out arguements, which he's further supported with hard facts.

What Jason has presented is unability of dealing with Serbian criminals in N-Mitro and blaming K-Albanians for the failure.
(Olf, 19 August 2009 16:21)

Olfy,

You just keep speaking about things you have little knowledge of. FYI, criminals in N. Mitro work with the ones in S. Mitro... all day, every day. There is no ethnic tension between criminal organizations.

I see you still have not owned up to being wrong about the Serbian mafia throwing grenades into the cafes. I guess you just will keep on throwing out incorrect information.

I am growing tired of always having to correct you, so if you are ever in Zvecan, I will be happy to sit down with you and discuss this matter further.

hay jay,
You are amazing man, turning into a detecive too now,
I thought you gave us leaks you gave us guesses and all of them are as truthfull as your own job. We are here to discuss " elections", froud, threat and lies.

Jason

if you are who you claim you are than ou should know what am I takling about.

Jason

You are posting selctive links? Are you maybe some king of Geroge from Aust.
you link tell us of year 2000 when in Mitro more than 20 K-Albanians where killed by Serbs and the rest where driven out at gun point(ethnicaly cleansed)by Serbs paramilitaries. This all happend in fron you as you say in previous post.

'the Bridge Watcher'

I vaguely remember 'olf' :)

Yes, I know smile

I stand corrected. The Albanian who threw the grenade into Dolce was 16, not 15. Anyway, some links for you, "Olf."

http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/balkannews@yahoogroups.com/4765645.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/14/news/mn-64295

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=01&dd=05&nav_id=56203

Smile

I dont think that I am international, in fact I am one.
I dont think that there is Serbian Mafia in north, fact is that there is Mafia and you know that.

Rod

to think that Serbian paramilitaries left Northern Mitro is funny if it was not naive and sad. They have only changed their uniform nothing else and became paramilitaries in civilian clothes. Reality is different on the ground from the one that Serbian propaganda machine presents.You are trying to twist the facts but with no success.

What Jason has presented is unability of dealing with Serbian criminals in N-Mitro and blaming K-Albanians for the failure.

"You are trying to twist the facts but with no success."


Olfy,

What facts? Where is the evidence of your alledged murder & expulsion of Albanians from Mitrovica by Serb paramilitaries in 2000?
You have presented NO facts, only rumor & lies - and you have been exposed! I agree with Jason that it is pointless arguing with you any further.

Hi Milan:
And where do you place Slobodan Milosevic?
(rest my case, 17 August 2009 14:52)

And what exactly was Milosevic guilty of at the time he was elected?

On the other hand your Thaci & Co are guilty of all sorts of horrible things.
That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.

so only 1/3 of serbien people care for serbien "elections"?

Paralel institutions or not, this is a joke, that's on the serbien tax payers expence.

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you."
Olf

At least we don't elect war criminals, drugsmuglers and human traffickers for office.
Kosovo is a paradise for these kind of people.

so only 1/3 of serbien people care for serbien "elections"?

Paralel institutions or not, this is a joke, that's on the serbien tax payers expence.
(so so, 17 August 2009, 11:24)

Number of Serbs who participated in last election in only two municipalities is much more than number of Serbs who participate in kosovan elections.

Last time in kosovan elections in Gračanica voted mayby 10 Serbs...

Milan

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you.

Jason
no need to feel sorry.
I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice.
I present no different face to them.They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them.

He explained that of the 662 people, SPS won 255 votes, while the Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) got 160 votes, the Serb Progressive Party (SNS) 106, the Democratic Party (DS) 94, Social Democratic Party 30 and the Serb Radical Party (SRS) 10 votes.

According to this, seven ballots were invalid.

A total of 8,310 voters, including displaced persons, had the right to vote in Peć, and once all these votes have been counted, it will be known who won the early local ballot.

Formig a council with 662 votes or with less than 8% of votes is just great, this say a lot. Actually, it tells in other words that, number of Serbs or better said Serb Voters in Kosovo is being manipulated. If claims that in KS there are 200-250k serbs are true how comes that in Peja/Pec there are only just more than 8k voters, especially when we take into account that Peja/Pec had the larges portion of Serb population in pre-war KS.

Hi Milan:
And where do you place Slobodan Milosevic?

MikeC

as usually guessing but again wrong.
Gracanica and Peja/Pec is booming with prosperity and this due to investments from Serbia. People are so happy that they are the no.1 buyers of anti-depressants in Kosovo.
Come to Gracanica to see the resutl of your support.
I work mainly with K-Serb community in Kosovo and I can really tell some stories.

Does somebody really belive that the people elected someone? These are not elections! Everybody knew who is beeing elected or not? Look at the results. Serbian government have never ever known what democratic elections are, specially not in Kosovo. According to serbian government "The only good elections are arranged elections". I do congratulate all the serbs in Kosovo. I hope that this will open their eyes.

Last time in kosovan elections in Gračanica voted mayby 10 Serbs...
(Milan,

How many Albanians voted on this "election"?
Who supports multiethnicity according to hard facts?

Please, from now on stop complaining/blaiming the Kosovo Government for not supporting you,for lack of security, for unemployment, for lack of freedom of movement, etc, unless you change your minds and participate in the Kosovo Elections. If you K. Serbs really like the way you have lived for the last 10 years now, that's your problem, but spare us of the above complaints.

hello peggy

If you told us that you would foulsly testify against "ceku & co" for 300k€ we would belive you.
As for criminals and not criminals, politicians are just that.
Look at Serbian uninterupted "elections" serbiens ready to "liquidate" another one for a grim of power. But I'm sure not all your fellow Serbian politicians are like that.

Jason

something or you to comment and investigate.see the link
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=61198

That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.
(Peggy, 17 August 2009 15:39)

Oh yeah, Peggy, I'm sure Serbian politicians are not only the cleanest in the Balkans but on whole Earth.

Don't be so upset. They were just playing democracy.

1/3 of Serbs voting in Serbian elections in Kosovo is still better than 0/3 voting in Albanian. Apathy and disullusionment (not to mention the people organizing it apparently can't get their act together) largely define the turnout.

hello peggy

If you told us that you would foulsly testify against "ceku & co" for 300k€ we would belive you.
As for criminals and not criminals, politicians are just that.
Look at Serbian uninterupted "elections" serbiens ready to "liquidate" another one for a grim of power. But I'm sure not all your fellow Serbian politicians are like that.
(drink water, 17 August 2009 17:06)

I would never falsely testify against anyone but there is no need to lie as far as Ceku and the rest are concerned. Their deeds speak for themselves.

as usually guessing but again wrong.
Gracanica and Peja/Pec is booming with prosperity and this due to investments from Serbia. People are so happy that they are the no.1 buyers of anti-depressants in Kosovo.
Come to Gracanica to see the resutl of your support.
I work mainly with K-Serb community in Kosovo and I can really tell some stories.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 15:38)

If you work mainly with the Serbian community, I feel sorry for them considering your antagonistic tone towards Serbs on this site... unless of course you present another face to them when in Zvecan or Gracanica.

Oh yeah, Peggy, I'm sure Serbian politicians are not only the cleanest in the Balkans but on whole Earth.
(Berkeley, 17 August 2009 20:37)

No politician is clean, we all know that but none have innocent blood on their hands like yours do.
Big difference.

Jason

if you are who you claim you are than ou should know what am I takling about.

Jason,

Don't worry too much about Olf. He tends to exaggerate a few claims in order for his side to come out more awesome. Being in Gracanica myself, and I'm assuming you've been there too, there is indeed a general sense of political apathy by the Serbs towards Belgrade. They see Belgrade as run by people who love to use their plight for their political gain. Yet somehow here people are equating low voter turnout and political disillusionment with some sort of failure of Serbian democracy when in fact the real solution is to facilitate local parties who have a better sense of what is immediately needed. I think the low turnout is a sign that K-Serbs have had enough. But until real on the ground movements establish themselves south of the Ibar, they'd rather vote for Belgrade based parties than anything coming out of Pristina.

Funny how boycotting by one's own group is understood as protest while boycotting by another group is interpreted as stupidity.

On the other hand your Thaci & Co are guilty of all sorts of horrible things.
That's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serbs don't elect criminals.
(Peggy, 17 August 2009 15:39)

Peggy can you mention to us which court of law has found them guilty and what were the accusations that this court of law proved?

Jason
I belive that you are in different Gracanica not in the one that I work and live nearly everyday for the past 9 years.Yes, there are people, in minoroty, that would stil like Milosevic to return but that is a small number, the ones that you are talking to.
As for Bridge Watchers, dont be afraid to confess or maybe you are not ranked as suitable to meet them. There is no UN or Eu staff that has not talked to them since the situation dictated it.

Jason
I belive that you are in different Gracanica not in the one that I work and live nearly everyday for the past 9 years.Yes, there are people, in minoroty, that would stil like Milosevic to return but that is a small number, the ones that you are talking to.
As for Bridge Watchers, dont be afraid to confess or maybe you are not ranked as suitable to meet them. There is no UN or Eu staff that has not talked to them since the situation dictated it.
(Olf, 18 August 2009 10:36)

Who is talking about Milosevic?! I am saying you are very wrong when you claim to speak for the Serbs in Gracanica. You are speaking pure fiction.

As for the bridge watchers, what in the world are you talking about? You have lost me on that one... Did you have a bad run-in with them or something? :)

Anyone who might be surprised at irregularities in any kind of voting in Kosovo should go to their nearest pharmacy and buy some 'cop on' tablets.

MB,Ireland

Jason
no need to feel sorry.
I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice.
I present no different face to them.They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 20:05)

That says it all... I now know with 100% certainty that you are not working with Serbs, and I am fairly certain you are an Albanian.

Your opinions reflect the Serbs?! The ones in Albania perhaps. This is quite amusing considering I am currently in Gracanica on a weekly basis and I can tell you categorically that you are totally and completely wrong.

The second half of your post further convinces me that you are an Albanian... "They accept my opinion as it is real and the majority if them is not blind as it is the case with the Bridge Watcher, formation that you must be familiar with, by the way are you scared from them. do you met them since they run north of Mitro. I have met them."

This is great! Here I was all along thinking you actually worked for UN or EU, but I can see otherwise now, "Olf."

Olf,

Nope. I don't think anyone has a clue as to what you are talking about. Yes, everyone knows the bridge watchers. What of it? I don't blame them for watching out for terrorists like the one who came across and threw a hand grenade in Dolce Vita Cafe a few years back. Were you around then? I was. Then there were the others severely maimed by grenades thrown by Albanians into cafes on Lola Ribara Street. They were not protected by us, the international community, so of course they will watch the bridge for security. You should know that since you met them.

Can anyone else try and explain what Olfy is getting at because I am at a loss by now.

Jason

attacks you are mentioning have to do with Serbian organised crime and mafia in Mitro, you know that.

Also, I thought you are to be impartial. Are you maybe a Serb in disguise

Rod

to think that Serbian paramilitaries left Northern Mitro is funny if it was not naive and sad. They have only changed their uniform nothing else and became paramilitaries in civilian clothes. Reality is different on the ground from the one that Serbian propaganda machine presents.You are trying to twist the facts but with no success.

What Jason has presented is unability of dealing with Serbian criminals in N-Mitro and blaming K-Albanians for the failure.

"I work very closely with them and my post reflect more or less their voice."
Olf

I guess you are the one they elected since you say you represent them.

hay jay,
You are amazing man, turning into a detecive too now,
I thought you gave us leaks you gave us guesses and all of them are as truthfull as your own job. We are here to discuss " elections", froud, threat and lies.

'the Bridge Watcher'

I vaguely remember 'olf' :)

Yes, I know smile

'Yes, I know smile
(Olf, 18 August'

You do? gosh golly then we know eachother. btw thats mr smilevich to you. i dont mean that of course :) but 'olf' i've been meaning to ask you why do you think you're an international? also, why do you think there's mafia in north and dont you mean kmitro?

'Are you maybe a Serb in disguise'

dunno but, i am! they call me thor. But only after 15 rounds, eh :)

Smile

I dont think that I am international, in fact I am one.
I dont think that there is Serbian Mafia in north, fact is that there is Mafia and you know that.

Jason

You are posting selctive links? Are you maybe some king of Geroge from Aust.
you link tell us of year 2000 when in Mitro more than 20 K-Albanians where killed by Serbs and the rest where driven out at gun point(ethnicaly cleansed)by Serbs paramilitaries. This all happend in fron you as you say in previous post.

Olf,

Try and stay on the subject. You made the ridiculous statement that Serbs threw the grenade into Dolce Vita and the other cafes. I am simply proving you wrong, again. The links give the name of the suspect, who is certainly not a Serb. Clearly you are trying to divert attention of these crimes by bringing up others. I did not work. Nice try though:)

berkely, I'm sure that the serbian politicians would thank you for your glowing recommendations, but I wouldn't be so fast at giving them that title. western politicians are just as good as the eastern ones. They're all crooked theifs. don't be so fast as to isolate one set. usa's political mess only looks good on cnns soap operas, but the rest of the world see them, and uks and eus as they are. human, falible, corropable, and certainly not above any weaknesses found elsewhere. they are the collective nesseary evil that we must all endure, regardless of adminstration flavour (capitalistic, socialistic, communistic, dictatorship, etc, etc, ad naseum...

'the Bridge Watcher'

I vaguely remember 'olf' :) hey do you remember the bridge 17 march 2004? a lesson to us all. i know to you albanians that's hard to accept but the line runs there and we should all learn our lessons. and i mean ALL.

attacks you are mentioning have to do with Serbian organised crime and mafia in Mitro, you know that.

Wrong, yet again, Olf. The attacks mentioned were carried out by Albanians. In fact, the last one I mentioned at Dolce Vita was committed by a 15-year old Albanian. He was apprehended fleeing the scene, you may recall.

Nice try at revising history:)

I stand corrected. The Albanian who threw the grenade into Dolce was 16, not 15. Anyway, some links for you, "Olf."

http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/balkannews@yahoogroups.com/4765645.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/feb/14/news/mn-64295

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=01&dd=05&nav_id=56203

Milan

I would like to congradulate you and your fellow Serbs. You have really choosen representatives to represent you.
(Olf, 17 August 2009 13:57)

Yes - we have our leaders elected in democratic elections. They are only people to speech between Eulex/UN and Serb communities in Kosovo.

"you link tell us of year 2000 when in Mitro more than 20 K-Albanians where killed by Serbs and the rest where driven out at gun point(ethnicaly cleansed)by Serbs paramilitaries."
(Olf, 19 August 2009 09:24)

Enough lies Olf! This never happened. Answer for me one question Olf: How could Serbian paramilitaries kill & ethnically cleanse Albanians from Mitrovica in 2000, when they had all completely withdrawn from Kosovo in June 1999? This was a condition of the Kumanovo agreement between Serbia & Nato. Nato in fact VERIFIED Serbia's unconditional compliance with this condition, before placing their 60,000 peacekeepers in Kosovo in July 1999. Even if Serb Paramilitaries were in Kosovo in 2000 (they were not),it is impossible to fathom how 60,000 American led peacekeepers would've allowed them to commit such a horrible crime against Albanians (which never happened). If this really, had happened why was it never reported in the media?
CNN would have had a field day with something like this! Of course Olf, you did not cite any credible source to back up this ridiculous claim, which is the best proof of all that you made this up.

Here's some free advice for you Olf: Stop arguing with Jason, because it only makes you look worse the longer this drags on. He has presented well thought out arguements, which he's further supported with hard facts.

What Jason has presented is unability of dealing with Serbian criminals in N-Mitro and blaming K-Albanians for the failure.
(Olf, 19 August 2009 16:21)

Olfy,

You just keep speaking about things you have little knowledge of. FYI, criminals in N. Mitro work with the ones in S. Mitro... all day, every day. There is no ethnic tension between criminal organizations.

I see you still have not owned up to being wrong about the Serbian mafia throwing grenades into the cafes. I guess you just will keep on throwing out incorrect information.

I am growing tired of always having to correct you, so if you are ever in Zvecan, I will be happy to sit down with you and discuss this matter further.

"You are trying to twist the facts but with no success."


Olfy,

What facts? Where is the evidence of your alledged murder & expulsion of Albanians from Mitrovica by Serb paramilitaries in 2000?
You have presented NO facts, only rumor & lies - and you have been exposed! I agree with Jason that it is pointless arguing with you any further.